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 on: March 29, 2015, 10:31:28 PM 
Started by Blackjack - Last post by Blackjack

Quote from: Lee on March 29, 2015, 10:24:17 PM

In my experience, SSDs are completely silent, no noise at all. On my Falcon I can sort of hear the HDD, but the fans are loud enough to drown out most of the noise. Never hear the HDD or SSD on my iMac, both are completely quiet.

A hum though, wouldn't that be a power thing?
When I plant my ear against the case, the Delta power supply makes no obtrusive noise to speak of. When it's directly adjacent to the hard drives, it's pretty bad though I don't hear it so much away from it.

I guess that's the thing though. This is extremely quiet on the fan side so one lousy 7200 RPM drive is just enough to be slightly annoying.  icon_smile While I think I can just learn to get used to it, I do have until Friday a couple weeks from now to return it. I don't see doing that but might investigate ways to soften the drive's sound a bit.

I do have a microphone I never use. Maybe I can use it to record what I hear, up-close, and it might help in getting others to understand what I'm hearing. I'm sure it wouldn't register much on a decibel meter at all. I'm just weird that way.

 on: March 29, 2015, 10:26:41 PM 
Started by naednek - Last post by gellar
I'm not convinced the Rams will be sub .500 solely due to their defensive line... that thing is monstrous and will win you a few games (you know, the ones where the oline is merely average vs truly awful).

That being said, around .500 is a good expectation for STL. Right about where the 49ers will be. Sigh.

 on: March 29, 2015, 10:25:06 PM 
Started by Crawley - Last post by wonderpug
I highly recommend the CH Products stick and throttle. I think it'll run about $200 to get them both, depending on sales you can find. They're not as flashy as the Saitek stuff, but they're built like tanks and they've been in the business with great reviews since the early PC sim eras.

It has an analog joystick on the throttle which is great for fine control of lateral thrust in Elite Dangerous. It does not have twist for yaw on the joystick, which can be a negative, but twist on joysticks is also a common point of failure so the lack of one is tied to its better reliability.

 on: March 29, 2015, 10:24:17 PM 
Started by Blackjack - Last post by Lee
In my experience, SSDs are completely silent, no noise at all. On my Falcon I can sort of hear the HDD, but the fans are loud enough to drown out most of the noise. Never hear the HDD or SSD on my iMac, both are completely quiet.

A hum though, wouldn't that be a power thing?

 on: March 29, 2015, 10:09:23 PM 
Started by Caine - Last post by Harkonis
Careful where you park your team's Command Truck, you might not be doing them any favors

 on: March 29, 2015, 09:53:56 PM 
Started by Blackjack - Last post by Blackjack
OK, all's not perfect in new PC land. Well, it IS perfect in terms of game performance in system-ball-breakers at all the highest video settings. I'd put this $1,500 system up against any $4,000 boutique PC out there, at least at the 1920X1080 rez max that my 2011 Samsung LED monitor is capable of. I mean, good grief, Divinity: Original Sin now even loads levels so fast, I don't have to go take a nap waiting for the loading meter to finish. Maybe Wasteland 2 will be the real test on loading screens (if not graphics, at least not until the ballyhooed Unity 5.0 upgrade). icon_smile

Everything I play now comes up with graphics settings like this. Old news to any cutting edge PC gamer, new news to a PC luddite like me.  icon_razz

-After about an hour of glee in Ryse of Rome, I got the motion sickness that while is usually been an FPS-only problem has spread in recent years to 3rd person shooter/actioners. This time it was really, really bad, and even now about 28 hours later, I'm not feeling entirely well. So I guess if I thought a high performance PC was going to solve my gaming motion sickness woes, I thought wrong.  icon_frown Not really a knock on the Asus PC though.

Even so, Ryse of Rome nows looks like.... KAPOW!


*I have more graphic screenshots, not sure how we feel about sharing game de-limbing, and game decapitation shots here.  paranoid

**For whatever reason, when you're fighting alongside your father and eventually some spirit thing tells you to go one direction. BOOM, motion sickness just came out of nowhere, and I made the mistake of continuing to play for a while. I find if I quit the moment I feel anything, then it just passes. But if I continue playing, then it's really debilitating and takes a loong time to shake.

I hate it because I have to skip so many games I would otherwise play, mostly FPS but some 3rd person. And I can't understand it. I could play Mass Effect 3 in co-op or SP for hours and hours, no motion sickness. 3rd person stuff like Spec Ops: The Line, Red Faction Guerilla, Just Cause 2, on and on, give me horrific motion sickness. I hate my brain.  icon_frown I digress.

-While the power supply fan, lone 80mm rear case fan and CPU fan appear to be all but silent, the system does have a steady, annoying hum. I put my ear up against the case side in a few locations, and I'm pretty sure it's the hard drive and/or SSD.  Aren't SSDs supposed to be essentially silent? Or am I confusing them what's presumably flash memory in my iOS devices?

I wouldn't really call this hum "loud," but it's certainly annoying. Now whether it's annoying enough to warrant returning the PC, or maybe researching HDs and SSDs to get brands marketed as truly silent/quiet, I don't know yet. If I thought it was just the disc whirring sound exacerbated by the mounting frames or something, I guess I could try screws with rubber washers on then or some hard drive "noise reduction mounting cage" or something.

If I'm gonna replace them, I figure I might as well do that before installing a lot more stuff on the drives. And of course if I replace stuff it'll probably void the 1-year warranty but I've generally gone crazy with parts replacements pretty quickly on new PCs before.

*Hmm, after doing some HD research, I'm thinking this might be the first time I've used a 7200 RPM hard drive (I believe the 2008 HP PC I had used a pair of 5400 RPM Seagate hard drives. To be honest, they trashed constantly for years no matter how I set Windows' cache, and only my more recent upgrade from 4GB to 8GB of system RAM ever calmed that down. I never noticed much noise from them beyond that thrashing.

So it's possible maybe that's why my ears just aren't used to the sound of a faster 7200 RPM drive?

 on: March 29, 2015, 08:45:37 PM 
Started by Bullwinkle - Last post by Bullwinkle
Looks like my aging Asus G50 Vt is ready to head out to pasture (unless this tread fixes the issues I've been having [if so, thanks, Atomic Kid]).

15" is just a little too big any more.  I need something more portable, but I still want something to play games.

I've looked at the Razer 14, but I hear that 4K displays are just overkill at this point. And the non-14k display doesn't have the same internal stats (plus maybe I want a touchscreen).

I've thought about the Alienware 13 or 14 as well.

And, since I liked my Asus, I thought about one of their Zenbooks.

There are new folks that seem respected in the market that I don't know much about, too, so I thought I'd round up some opinions.  Especially now that new ones are hitting the market.


 on: March 29, 2015, 07:18:07 PM 
Started by naednek - Last post by theohall
Looks like Seattle and Arizona get to battle for the NFC West.

You all have already commented on the disaster in the bay.

The LA/St Louis Rams needed to address one major issue in the off-season, the offensive line.  So, they addressed it by cutting three veteran starters, several backups and replacing them with no one while re-signing a couple of backups.  Fisher and management keep claiming the Rams will address this via FA (still) and the draft.  Problem - there are less than 60 OL FAs available and 5 of them were cut by the Rams. 2 of them are Jaguars who no one will want unless absolutely desperate.  This leaves fixing the OL via the draft.  Yes, it can work, but it takes 2-3 years for that to actually materialize into wins on the field.  Niners fans should know this, because they did it.  Problem - the Rams cut/don't re-sign guys who they develop.  They actually let Saffold go last year (one of the guys they kept this yet), but got him back last season because of an issue with a physical in Oakland.  The mis-handling of the OL has doomed the Rams again to another sub-500 season.  No, Nick Foles won't fix that, considering his success was when the Eagles offensive line was better than last season.

Enjoy fighting for the West, Seahawks and Cardinals fans.   icon_frown

 on: March 29, 2015, 06:50:29 PM 
Started by TiLT - Last post by Mystic95Z
My son bought a PS4 today, may have to pick this up and wrestle the console from his sticky fingers..  icon_twisted

 on: March 29, 2015, 06:44:24 PM 
Started by TiLT - Last post by Zinfan
Whew, restarting the game placed me in a spot I could get out of so onward I go.

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