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9441  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 price drop? on: July 18, 2007, 06:11:33 PM

Quote from: TC Weidner on July 18, 2007, 05:56:33 PM

I saw a report in a business paper talking about brand image etc.  There was just a large US national poll taken and the data shows the three largest , well recognized, and popular and respected brands in US are
1) Coca cola
2) SONY
3) Toyota

Sony will be fine.

All three of those companies have had failed products.  I'm not sure what your point is.
9442  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nervous Brickdown on: July 18, 2007, 03:34:46 PM
How long is the game?  Everything in the reviews makes it look right up my alley, but I don't know if I want to buy it if I can beat the whole thing in one evening.
9443  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 price drop? on: July 18, 2007, 03:26:33 PM

Quote from: Purge on July 18, 2007, 11:19:47 AM

Turtle, I'm only going to say this once....

when you flame your competitor publicly and repeatedly for not having 100% backwards compatibility, then put it in your product with close to 100%, and then yank it from at least one launch market (EU), and then force the rest of the markets to go to the currently less-than 50% compatibility before your software is ready is just plain crazy.

It would be worth breaking the backwards compatibility promise if was part of a strategy to bring the price down.  Desperate times, and all.  Cut out the wifi, the card reader, the emotion engine, don't include a video, USB, or ethernet cable, hell maybe even cut HDMI, do whatever you can to get a $399 pricetag so people might actually start buying your system.
9444  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue coming in October of this year on: July 18, 2007, 02:29:54 PM
Oh, are the license tests in the game?  I know a lot of people complained about them, but I missed having them when I defected to Forza.
9445  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: KOTOR II Fans - Check This Out on: July 18, 2007, 12:57:42 PM
I think it's almost time to replay KOTOR I in preparation.
9446  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue coming in October of this year on: July 18, 2007, 02:03:01 AM
I dunno, if it really looks like those videos then I think Gran Turismo wins visually.  Do we know how big the available car list is for GT?
9447  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ok, on the count of three: on: July 18, 2007, 01:18:44 AM
Uh oh, I'm in a split household.  I go on THREE, and my fiancee goes on GO.  And apparently she's also a terrorist.

Crap.
9448  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Disgaea 3 announced for PS3 on: July 17, 2007, 08:18:42 PM
Grid or sphere?
9449  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My Dream Game: Bubble Bobble HD w/ co-op play over PSN, Live - what is yours on: July 17, 2007, 06:54:53 PM

Quote from: Starshifter on July 17, 2007, 06:48:24 PM

Remake this with today's graphics and capabilities:


Game over, he wins.
9450  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Should i stick with Zelda TP? on: July 17, 2007, 05:36:19 PM
You guys are talking as if they've never put a voice to Link and Zelda.

I guess he sounds like a whiny teenager, and is a bit of a pervert.

Link: "Looking good, Princess!  Especially from this angle!"
Fairy: "I told you, you should have put on a robe!"

And later:
Link: "Sprite you're only 3 inches high!"
Fairy: "What, you don't like short girls?"

Link: "Saved your life again, kiss me."
9451  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: G.I. Joe PSAs on: July 17, 2007, 03:15:19 PM
I probably chuckled the most at the one where the guy with the fire mask comes into the house as if he was some kind of robot or space invader.
9452  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ok, on the count of three: on: July 17, 2007, 03:03:03 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on July 17, 2007, 02:51:48 PM

GO!
Madness!  People like you are the cause of dropped sofas and hernias around the world!
9453  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Favorite Controller Poll on: July 17, 2007, 02:29:45 PM

Quote from: Chaz on July 17, 2007, 02:16:11 PM

Okay, Nintendo reversed the A and B buttons.  At least I knew that A was next to B.

Out of curiosity, I scanned the button layouts on the video game controller family tree.  In addition to Nintendo reversing the natural order:

The TurboGrafx-16 controller has II to the left of I
The Jaguar has C, B, A (also: 'pause' to the left of 'option'...wtf?)
9454  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My Dream Game: Bubble Bobble HD w/ co-op play over PSN, Live - what is yours on: July 17, 2007, 02:12:16 PM
An HDTV mounted face up like a table, four racing wheels mounted around the edge, and an updated version of that old top-down Demolition Derby arcade game with the oil slicks and wrenches, connected over Live to other groups of four people playing at their own HDTV tables.
9455  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBox 360 warranty questions (and "support" gripes) on: July 17, 2007, 01:53:24 PM
I don't think you called the right kind of support line; that sounds like psychotherapy.

"Tell me more about how you felt when it froze."
9456  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii VC/N64] Paper Mario impressions on: July 17, 2007, 01:48:20 PM

Quote from: JCC on July 17, 2007, 01:32:16 PM

Back to the original, I am in chapter 2 and finding it much more difficult. Those stupid rock monsters have too high a defense for my hammer to damage. I am assuming I will get a new hammer soon, but am worried I might have missed it somewhere. I had to basically run from every fight with them until I reached the desert where now bandits are ganking me.

It's been a long, long time, but any chance the rock monsters flip upside down when you jump on them?
9457  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Favorite Controller Poll on: July 17, 2007, 01:47:11 PM

Quote from: jimmyorr99 on July 17, 2007, 01:38:17 PM

xbox 360-voted. I guess it's essentially the controller S from first xbox, but now their standard is wireless which I think is pretty cool.

It's more than just the addition of wireless.  The shape is more comfortable, the start & back buttons are moved to a more convenient location, the black and white buttons are moved to more useful bumper positions, and IMO the analog triggers are smoother as well.
9458  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Ok, on the count of three: on: July 17, 2007, 01:21:09 PM
It's about time we settled this.
9459  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Favorite Controller Poll on: July 17, 2007, 01:04:54 PM

Quote from: Chaz on July 17, 2007, 12:45:59 PM

Aside from the funky position of the left analog stick, I hate that they use shapes on the buttons instead of letters.  With letters, I can know instinctively that B is to the right of A.  With shapes, I just have to memorize them, and there's nothing instinctive about it.

I hate to break it to you, but...







9460  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Balancing work and exercise on: July 16, 2007, 10:49:14 PM
Early in the morning would be ideal for me, but it's not really an option since I can barely even manage to get out of bed in time for work.  I try to work out as soon I get home from work, if I let myself settle in at all then my chances of heading back outside get pretty slim.

My schedule is to run 3 times during the workweek, try to squeeze in an additional cross-training day somewhere in M-F, and then do a long run on Saturday.
9461  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Blue Dragon demo up! on: July 16, 2007, 07:28:51 PM

Quote from: EddieA on July 16, 2007, 07:24:15 PM

Has anyone played the demo on a standard-definition TV? Some people at GameFAQs are saying that the text is too small, but others say it is just fine.
I've only gone through the tutorials, but I didn't have any problem reading anything on my SDTV. 
9462  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (7/16) on: July 16, 2007, 05:28:51 PM

Quote from: Destructor on July 16, 2007, 05:26:17 PM

To get Paper Mario or not to get... I never played it on the N64.

It's fantastic.
9463  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (7/16) on: July 16, 2007, 01:55:13 PM
Virtual Console rumor mill:
Paper Mario
Balloon Fight
Silent Debuggers
9464  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Who's more excited about Guitar Hero 3 than Rock Band? (why?) on: July 16, 2007, 01:10:23 PM

Quote from: Gratch on July 16, 2007, 01:02:22 PM

It's been an interesting shift, as I was originally far more psyched for GH3 and thought Rock Band was just silly.  Funny how things can change.

You're not alone: the Gut Reaction Poll from April 2 shows a 2:1 ration in favor of Guitar Hero, and in this poll the ratio is almost flipped.  I know I voted for Gutiar Hero in that April poll!
9465  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Project Slypheed Impression on: July 15, 2007, 07:39:45 PM
Thanks for the impressions, I was really impressed with the demo and have been on the fence as to whether I should go and pick this up.  I think I'll keep an eye out for sales/trades.
9466  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Who's more excited about Guitar Hero 3 than Rock Band? (why?) on: July 15, 2007, 01:05:25 PM
Check out the character creation and customization at the 12:10 mark on this video.

For me, Rock Band is so far ahead of GH3 feature-wise it's as if they came from the future and brought back the competitor to Guitar Hero 4.
9467  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Blue Dragon demo up! on: July 14, 2007, 05:56:41 PM
nard?
9468  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 price drop? on: July 14, 2007, 04:10:39 PM

Quote from: Turtle on July 14, 2007, 04:01:44 PM

Roll Eyes

I thought we could have a reasonable discussion without someone calling another a fanboy.

Me too!  So stop telling us that we're just spinning this negatively because we hate Sony!
9469  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 price drop? on: July 14, 2007, 01:36:43 PM

Quote from: Turtle on July 14, 2007, 07:20:43 AM

I still don't see the problem that we know that the 60gb version is going away once stocks run out.  They're basing their entire negative opinion of Sony on the speculation that there'll only be the $600 price point left by that time.
Why do you keep calling this speculation?  This is what the President and COO of Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. told us.

"The $499 price adjustment that we did for the 60GB version for the American market--we're no longer in production for that product.  So, once that product is gone from the retailer's shelves, then we're back to the $599 SKU only.  So it's not like we have a two price strategy here in the US market."
9470  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Star Wars: Force Unleashed on: July 14, 2007, 04:01:09 AM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on July 14, 2007, 03:36:48 AM

So if he can take down a starship using the force, why couldn't Luke just slam the Death Star into a moon?

 icon_wink

I think that was many a fanboy's dream ending to ROTJ. smile
9471  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Who's more excited about Guitar Hero 3 than Rock Band? (why?) on: July 14, 2007, 04:00:25 AM

Quote from: papasmurff on July 14, 2007, 02:55:38 AM

I like GH 3 Better...way too expensive for rock band.  I might get both if I can buy just RB the game and no guitar or drums or Mic
Are you under the impression that you can only get the game if you buy the ~$200 bundle?
9472  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 Wireless Wheel - questions on: July 14, 2007, 03:42:04 AM
Are you using a PGR3 copy you already owned, or the one that came with the game?  I don't have the wheel myself, but I thought you had to make sure to use the included PGR3 to install some drivers.
9473  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What robot genre needs ILM's special effects treatment next? on: July 14, 2007, 12:15:18 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 14, 2007, 12:12:58 AM

SHOGO

Ooh now you're talking.
9474  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 price drop? on: July 14, 2007, 12:07:07 AM

Quote from: Turtle on July 13, 2007, 10:53:32 PM

Sony has a new model, probably with a new internal designation, in production.  They stop production on that already well overstocked PS3 60gb version, produce only the 80gb hardware.

If you look at how casually and simply Sony stated the discontinuing 60gb model with the emotion engine (which costs them more to produce, and actually has older controller designs) leaving the 80gb model (which has the EE removed and possibly includes the new rumble capable controller), it's likely that this is just internal hardware reshuffling.  Then the press misinterpreted it into yet another Sony negative press further fueling the rumor mill.  There's nothing saying what will happen when the 60gb runs out, just that when they do run out, there'll be just the 80gb on the shelf.

Also, look at the shelves, there's ample PS3s everywhere, and I suspect it'll last for more than a few months at the $500 price point.  Hell, you guys were making fun of how available the PS3 was, and now you're talking about how short lived the price drop will be once the PS3s run out?

There's no information about what'll happen after the 60GB is gone, just that there's the 80GB version out, that yes, currently costs $600.  However, the 80gb version isn't out yet, and probably isn't finalized since there's varying box art that says it's limited edition, that means not the main SKU.

There's some speculation about that they'll do, but that's being drowned out by people screaming bloody murder over nothing.  Could be with the cost savings from the removal of the EE from the 80gb model could allow them to drop that model to $500 come November, just in time for the holidays and Microsoft's inevitable 360 price drop.

Your defense of this move by Sony basically boils down to "they might offer the 80GB for $500 when the 60GB runs out," which people have already said would be one of the better next moves for Sony.  But that's just speculation.  What we have right here, right now, is a Sony representative telling us that "when the 60GB units are gone there will just be the $600 SKU."  That's not nothing.  That's stupidity.
9475  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Star Wars: Force Unleashed on: July 13, 2007, 11:13:38 PM
Holy shit.
9476  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Who's more excited about Guitar Hero 3 than Rock Band? (why?) on: July 13, 2007, 11:09:37 PM

Quote from: disarm on July 13, 2007, 09:32:35 PM

i'm not really sure which game i'm more interested in at this point...both have unique selling points, but the straight-forward guitar playing will always be what interests me most.  while the drum aspect of Rock Band looks pretty cool, i'm just not sure that i'll be willing to pay for another specialized controller that will take up space in my apartment...

Even if you have no interest in touching the drums or the microphone--all you want is the guitar aspect--I still feel that Rock Band wins.  Even if you don't want to drum or sing, doesn't it sound cool to go online and play with a fellow GTer who does use the drums, and another GTer who's actually pretty good at singing?

But even further, if you totally take the drums and mic out of the equation, Rock Band brings the 5 extra fret buttons; a bigger, more realistic looking guitar; customizable avatars; the guitar toggle switch to change the sound; and (with the big IF they deliver on their promises and don't charge too much) loads more downloadable content.

I know I'm probably coming off as a fanboy, but to be honest when Rock Band was announced I was enormously skeptical and thought it would surely fail against Guitar Hero 3.  Frankly, I'm amazed at how much Harmonix has won me over, but quite simply they're doing everything right (so far.)
9477  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - modern-day PoP? on: July 13, 2007, 10:44:23 PM
Here's a big part of the PoP vibe: the camera is scripted by the camera designer for Prince of Persia.

Looks very intriguing, finally another PS3 exclusive to tempt me!
9478  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 Price Drop? Not so Fast my Friend... on: July 13, 2007, 08:50:52 PM
Yeah, pretty mind boggling.  Being discussed over here as well.
9479  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - modern-day PoP? on: July 13, 2007, 08:30:27 PM

Quote from: GatorFavre on July 13, 2007, 08:22:34 PM

I wouldnt say it is a modern day PoP, I get a Flashback vibe from it.
Heh, the vine swinging in the first video actually reminded me more of Jungle Hunt.

I like the camera tricks they're doing for melee combat.  The blurring of the background is a neat effect; the jarring camera angles might get on your nerves, though.
9480  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Possible new PS3 controller with offset analog sticks on: July 13, 2007, 08:22:02 PM

Quote from: Turtle on July 13, 2007, 07:50:26 PM

I was actually looking forward to the boomerang controller, until people who never tried it ridiculed it out of existence.

I would've liked to try it as well.  It looked just crazy enough to work.
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