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9321  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Starcraft 2 hands on preview on: July 31, 2007, 03:01:48 AM

Quote from: EddieA on July 31, 2007, 02:26:06 AM

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I'd say Warcraft 1 and Diablo 1 were innovative

Warcraft was very similar to Dune 2 and Diablo was basically Nethack/Angband/etc. with graphics.
Agreed on both accounts, but they did enough new (and trendsetting) stuff with both games that I think they qualify as innovative.
9322  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: July 30, 2007, 08:48:30 PM

Quote from: shaggydoug on July 30, 2007, 08:23:57 PM


Did anyone here read Bill's post about Rock Band and specifically a subscription model for songs? 

Thoughts?  I'd gladly pay $20/month for such a service.

- shaggy

An attempt at $20/month would really kill my interest in Rock Band.  I'm paying ~$260 for the instruments and games, no way am I going to pay another $240 a year for the songs.  A subscription fee or very overpriced individual song downloads are pretty much the only potential deal breakers for me at this point with Rock Band.
9323  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Starcraft 2 hands on preview on: July 30, 2007, 06:08:10 PM
I'd say Warcraft 1 and Diablo 1 were innovative, as was the early (and killed) concept for Warcraft 3.
9324  Gaming / Analog Gaming / Re: My first video game! on: July 30, 2007, 02:13:48 PM
I'm trying to remember what my first PC game was.  It was on one of the old IBMs with the nuclear attack-proof keyboards.  I'm thinking Miner 2049er, Snack Attack, Moon Patrol, Jungle Hunt, Bump'N'Jump, Paratrooper...

Wait, I remember.  I'm pretty sure I started with Rocky's Boots.

This brings back memories:


Though I think that must be a more advanced version.  I don't remember it having colors that good, more like magenta and cyan.
9325  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (7/30) on: July 30, 2007, 01:49:23 PM
If the PSP Lite was out already I'd be tempted grab one along with Brave Story.
9326  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Infinity Engine Marathon on: July 30, 2007, 01:37:29 PM

Quote from: Calvin on July 30, 2007, 01:34:13 PM

Any ideas?
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
9327  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (7/30) on: July 30, 2007, 01:32:25 PM
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Star Soldier (NESģ, 1 player, Rated E for Everyone - Mild Fantasy Violence, 500 Wii Points): The standard for vertically scrolling shooters, Star Soldier is the original game that spawned all of the titles in the long-running Soldier series. Go inside a floating space station inhabited by a giant computer known as Starbrain. Your mission: to stop Starbrain's galactic invasion by piloting Caesar, a new, compact space fighter through 16 deadly stages. Collect power capsules to increase three different attributes of your ship: firepower, movement speed and defensive shields. Blast wave after wave of approaching enemies or use the innovative Trap Zone feature to fly beneath a land mass and avoid incoming fire. Conquer each stage to make your way to the final confrontation with Starbrain.

Dynamite Headdyô
(Sega Genesis, 1 player, Rated E for Everyone - Comic Mischief, 800 Wii Points): Headdy, a toy with a detachable head, arrives in North Town to find that the evil puppet king Dark Demon is causing serious problems. Dark Demon is gathering up all the puppets in town and turning some into his own evil minions, while eliminating the rest of the puppets that aren't good enough to join his legions. Headdy is captured and is targeted for the incinerator, but escapes in the nick of time. Now he's got to save the town. To do so, Headdy has to take on all manner of bad guys and even has to contend with his lifelong nemesis, Trouble Bruin the bear. Can Headdy overcome all his foes and take down Dark Demon?

Drop Off (TurboGrafx16, 1 player, Rated E for Everyone, 600 Wii Points): Brave five rounds of haunting, nightmarish dreams in this take on the classic arcade puzzler. To save his dearly beloved from the malicious demon that controls her dreams and holds her captive, our brave hero plunges himself into the nightmare to vanquish this evil foe. Deftly use the arrow items and control the angle of the ball to shatter the blocks that descend from the top of the screen. Set your sights on the joints holding the blocks together and knock off multiple blocks in one exhilarating blow. As you drop more and more blocks, their shapes will change, allowing you to earn bonus points. You must use your concentration and reflexes to defeat the demon and save your beloved.
9328  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: To Catch A Predator.... on: July 29, 2007, 08:55:36 PM

Quote from: Punisher on July 29, 2007, 08:35:05 PM

also, do they actually use real teens? (corruptrelic  post about the girl going to change)

Their bait is an 18+ year old that looks younger.  She's usually only in sight of the target for like 5 seconds before she heads to the back room. 
9329  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: WTB: Both Katamari games for PS2 on: July 28, 2007, 06:20:41 PM
na Naaa, na na Na na na, na Na na na na na na na na na
dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum
na Naaa, na na Na na na, na Na na na na na na na na naaaaaa

So much fun and charm for $20 is a bargain in my book. smile

Yooouuuur lonely rolling staaar...
9330  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: To Catch A Predator.... on: July 28, 2007, 03:23:59 AM
 saywhat
9331  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: LEGO Indiana Jones announced! on: July 28, 2007, 03:22:51 AM
AWESOME!
9332  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Infinity Engine Marathon on: July 27, 2007, 07:43:24 PM
Can you use the tutu mod on the Gametap version of BG 1 & 2?  I'm assuming not, but I'm not looking forward to rounding up all the game CDs I have scattered between Boston and California.
9333  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: To Catch A Predator.... on: July 27, 2007, 07:10:55 PM

Quote from: Punisher on July 27, 2007, 06:53:45 PM

I haven't really seen this, but have heard of it.... Do they actually get the guy to ask for sex or something? If sex is never brought up in the conversations, could they still be charged?
Also is this show entraping people in any way?

They get the guy to make his motive clear in the online chat logs, which the program has read out loud with the voice actors giggling every time 'LOL' is written.  So they've got pretty much the entire case built before the guy shows up.  When they arrive at the house, the bait girl says hi briefly and then goes to another room to "get drinks" or "change."  Chris Hanson comes out, the people seem to think they have to do whatever he tells them to even when he says he's not a cop, they get a minute or two of therapy from Chris, cameras come out with a flourish, then the guy walks out the door where a man dressed as a garden bush runs up and tackles him. 

They say they avoid entrapment, but when not all of the chat logs are available--as in the Texas case--the defense could always make the argument that the entrapment happened in the missing log.
9334  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: A great POTBS overview on: July 27, 2007, 04:08:14 PM

Quote from: drifter on July 27, 2007, 03:12:17 PM

because they can say they hit a benchmark with x number of beta keys put out.

Who would that matter to?  Some kind of internal promise, or one with the publisher?
9335  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: A great POTBS overview on: July 27, 2007, 02:39:56 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 21, 2007, 03:59:18 PM

There's a drawing for 200 beta accounts going on at warcry.

So, I won one of the 200 beta accounts....three weeks ago.  I still haven't gotten to see the game.  I have a beta key, I've entered my beta key, but all that does is toss me in with (literally) 10,000 other people with beta accounts who have been waiting far longer than I have to get into the game.  If I'm interpreting the posts on their public forum correctly, they promised at some point that 10,000 people would get in by the end of July, 1k were let in last week, and another 1k a few days ago.  I'm hoping that they let the other 8k in over the next few days, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

If I'm feeling bitter for thinking I was winning access to the beta and then being given a ticket to a queue of 10k people, I can hardly imagine how some of the active posters on the POTBS forums who have had beta queue accounts for over a year feel.

It just seems like such an odd way of doing things.  Why give all these people "beta keys" if all you're going to do is cherry pick the people with certain computer specs or however else they've been choosing people these past years.  The same effect could be accomplished by just choosing from a pool of "beta applications," without giving all these people false hope.
9336  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Simpsons Movie on: July 27, 2007, 02:05:50 PM
I'll probably catch it in a matinee in the next few weeks, but yeah my interest level is pretty low for someone who used to be a Simpsons fan of the first order.  If it was announced that they used a screenplay that was written circa 4th or 5th season, I'd be camped at the front of the line tonight.
9337  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Trek movie - Spock is cast on: July 27, 2007, 01:42:13 PM
It seems to me that there's sort of a recasting version of the Uncanny Valley.  If the recastings for Spock, Kirk, and the gang are only trying for a general take on the characters, it'll be easy to interpret as a reboot--similar to revisions of Batman, Superman, Oceans 11, etc.  If they get their impression of the characters spot-on, they'll likewise be acceptable--as in Ewan McGregor's take on Obi-Wan.  There's that big range, though, of "close, but not quite," that will have these Kirk and Spock impersonations looking like a humorous parody.
9338  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Here is how you end up at GamingTrend.com on: July 27, 2007, 01:31:52 PM
You mean when Gone Gold went down you guys didn't find your way here looking for free USMC Kato on Brooke Burke porno?
9339  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Overlord coming to Gametap on 8-9-2007!!! on: July 26, 2007, 07:28:59 PM
That's it?  Wow, so the people who bought the game for $60 could've gotten at least half a year of Gametap for free?  Ouch.
9340  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [All] Guitar Hero 3 Confirmed and Announced on: July 26, 2007, 04:54:41 PM
That's not a real video of the GHIII song, that's just a homebrew GHII mod that someone cooked up on their own.
9341  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Overlord coming to Gametap on 8-9-2007!!! on: July 26, 2007, 04:53:27 PM
What's the fee for Gametap, $15/mo?  So all the people who just bought the game for $60 could have gotten 4 months of Gametap for free?  Great deal for current and potential Gametap subscribers, but man, way to screw over your customers.

Very enticing for me, though, as I was tempted by Overlord and have been eyeing a Gametap more and more these days.
9342  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 10 Things I hate about Star Trek on: July 26, 2007, 04:46:47 PM
Let's leave demon summoning and wand waving magic out of the equation, as I don't think anyone is trying to make a claim that those have any scientific basis.

We agree that the majority of the scientific community does not believe that telekinesis is possible.  Is it safe to say the majority of the scientific communinity believes in special relativity, i.e., that FTL communication and travel are impossible?

So why does FTL communication get a pass as "speculative science" while telekinesis is dismissed as pure fantasy?  Because people have done research and have theories on how to break Einstein's speed limit?  People also have done research and have theories on how telekinesis could be possible, such as at the now closed Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Lab.

In the Ender's Game series, Card does not attempt to make a serious scientific explanation of how FTL communication works.  He invents a subatomic particle, throws around some physics jargon, dubs it the ansible and calls it a day.  The science behind the ansible is no more scientific than clicking your heels together to get home from Oz.

The ansible is an inextricable part of the Ender's Game story, so is the series now science fantasy and not science fiction?
9343  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 1-18-08 Trailer Online on: July 26, 2007, 03:12:47 PM
No image? No link?  Man, this thread is not friendly to the lazy!

9344  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Rock Band Bundle $200.00 shipped at Amazon on: July 26, 2007, 02:30:49 PM
The Harmonix headquarters are about a 5 minute walk from the apartment I'm moving to next month.  I should try to ambush them on their lunch break...or maybe bribery would be a better strategy...
9345  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: May have blown a PS3 oppertunity. Need a fix. on: July 26, 2007, 02:26:22 PM
When you get home:
(laughing) "So I almost bought a PS3 on my way home from work."
"Oh yeah?"
"Well you got me thinking this morning.  The price just dropped a hundred bucks, there's a bunch of big releases hitting in the next few months...it's like it's finally ripe for the buying.  You'll be proud of me, though, I resisted the urge and bought you these flowers instead."

Hook. Line. Sinker.
9346  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [All] Guitar Hero 3 Confirmed and Announced on: July 26, 2007, 01:32:52 PM
A small herd of the top players from the ScoreHero website were flown out to Neversoft to play through the entire setlist of GHIII and give their impressions and feedback.  They've got detailed impressions in this thread.

My take on the highlights:

Character List:
Axel Steel
Casey Lynch
Grim Ripper
Izzy Sparks
Johnny Napalm
Judy Nails
Lars Umlaut
Xavier Stone
Midori (new)
Slash (legend)

All-New Venue List:
Backyard Bash
Mitch's Moose Lounge
Video Shoot
Ye Olde Royal Odeon
Shanker's Island
Desert Rock Tour
Kaiju Megadome
Lou's Inferno

Four New Songs Annnounced:
- Suck My Kiss - Red Hot Chili Peppers (Master Track!)
- La Grange - ZZ Top
- Number Of The Beast - Iron Maiden (Master Track!!)
- Through The Fire And Flames - Dragonforce (Master Track!!!)

Hammer-ons/Pull-offs totally revamped to more realistically match real HO/PO points in songs, and real HO/PO technique

Through the Fire and Flames is incredibly hard.  Think ridiculously hard, then double that difficulty.

The new guitar is hugely improved.  Better strum bar, better whammy, just overall feels great.

Very well done note charts for pretty much every song

Improved character customization and animations

Sounds like the Battle Mode is pretty much what we're expecting.  Fun if you're into the idea, not at all fun if you think it's dumb.

---------------

I have to say, despite my waving of the Rock Band flag, this has really pumped up my excitement for GHIII.  I hope the feel of the RB guitar can match the impressions people are having from the GHIII Les Paul, since the RB version is the only one that will work for both games*, and as such will have to be the one I buy.

It's going to be an interesting fight to watch between these two games this Christmas, that's for sure.

*edit for clarity: only one that will be able to utilize all features in both games
9347  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: You MUST rofl at this on: July 26, 2007, 01:04:01 PM
And that's the big cultural difference.  We can hardly fathom being on a gameshow and not doing everything you can to win.  With this Japanese show and others like Takeshi's Castle, the contestants just seem to be trying to...have fun?  Does not compute!
9348  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Princess Bride...then & now on: July 26, 2007, 01:01:12 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 26, 2007, 04:35:45 AM

we have lost so many good people today.... depward....darkstar one... laner.... when will the carnage stop?
Well naturally I'd expect a banning announcement to follow in the Site Feedback forum in the next few days.  Then the madness will at last come to an end.
9349  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 10 Things I hate about Star Trek on: July 26, 2007, 02:59:48 AM

Quote from: unbreakable on July 26, 2007, 02:09:15 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on July 25, 2007, 10:41:22 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on July 25, 2007, 10:06:06 PM

Although saying there is no scientific basis for time travel is a pretty huge one, as well.

Do tell!  The paradoxes of time travel were one of the most interesting parts of The Fabric of the Cosmos when I read it, I'd love to hear some counter-arguments.

Well, of course, if you want a brief overview of the science, Wikipedia is good as a sort of 'primer'.  But in specific, Ron Mallett has recently done perhaps the most groundbreaking theoretical work on it, which others are working on trying to test his theories for practicality.  He has also written a book on the subject.  Also, if you are interested in hearing more let me know: he has been interviewed on NPR at least two times, and I can dig for links to the interviews.

Even Ron Mallet's best case scenario would be a time travel back to when the machine was created.  Has any piece of time travel fiction ever used that type of setup?

If all the "science fiction" definition needs for a scientific explanation is for someone to have done some form of research that isn't proved or disproved, how is telepathy and telekinesis any less plausible than time travel?

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But with your refined explanation, let me see if I'm understanding you correctly.  If "the story has to be based on science," then: If in a Star Wars story the Force is used, as in the movies, it is most definitely not science fiction, it's science fantasy.  If in a Star Wars story the Force is not used, as in books like Tales from Jabba's Palace, it then becomes science fiction.

Yes, that sounds about right.  The more a story is about the force, the more it's about fantasy.  Despite being in the same "world" and setting.

This is the part that seems fishy to me.  If everything about the world is science fiction until you introduce one fantasy element, why does that one element have the power to disqualify the entire work from being science fiction?  Ender's Game seems like clear cut science fiction to me, yet it has definite handwaving magic for the non-centrifugal gravity and the faster-than-light communication. The former is a prominent feature of the storyline, and the latter is an inseparable part of the storyline.  Thus disqualified from being science fiction?
9350  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 10 Things I hate about Star Trek on: July 25, 2007, 10:41:22 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on July 25, 2007, 10:06:06 PM

Although saying there is no scientific basis for time travel is a pretty huge one, as well.

Do tell!  The paradoxes of time travel were one of the most interesting parts of The Fabric of the Cosmos when I read it, I'd love to hear some counter-arguments.


But with your refined explanation, let me see if I'm understanding you correctly.  If "the story has to be based on science," then: If in a Star Wars story the Force is used, as in the movies, it is most definitely not science fiction, it's science fantasy.  If in a Star Wars story the Force is not used, as in books like Tales from Jabba's Palace, it then becomes science fiction.

Star Trek, despite it's best efforts, is also a story based on magic, and thus is not science fiction.

Did I get that right?

So how does 2001: A Space Odyssey fare?  The immortal star child that lives and travels through space is a key part of the story's resolution, is it magical enough to disqualify the book and film from being science fiction?
9351  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Rock Band Bundle $200.00 shipped at Amazon on: July 25, 2007, 08:51:35 PM

Quote from: ATB on July 25, 2007, 08:35:35 PM

So you can solo campaign through the whole game as a drummer? Then do it for bassist. Then vocalist. Then lead?

That's like 4 GHs in one game.  Or am I wrong.
3 in 1, there's no bass campaign. 

Also, I believe they've said the multiplayer "Band World Tour" campaign will allow for any combination of players either at the same TV or over Live.
9352  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Rock Band Bundle $200.00 shipped at Amazon on: July 25, 2007, 08:21:23 PM
Though the $200 pricetag for the bundle seems likely to me, in some of the interviews at E3 the Harmonix reps stated that these pricing rumors are not the official word, and hinted that the actual prices would be at least a bit less.

Quote from: ATB on July 25, 2007, 08:00:39 PM

I wonder what the SP will be like in this game.

The single player "Solo Tour" campaign sounds like an expanded version of the basic Guitar Hero formula.  You start off designing your avatar's look (hair, face, body type) and movement style, and picking a home town.  As you progress, you get to travel to bigger venues in other cities.  In addition to buying new equipment with your earnings, you'll be able to buy clothes--with the selection differing at each city.
9353  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA]this week...Wing Commander Arena on: July 25, 2007, 05:29:43 PM
You know what would be a neat prize for a Wing Commander themed sweepstakes?

How about (almost) every Wing Commander game ever released, AND the all the consoles and hardware to run them?

9354  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hold a tick...GH: Rocks the 80s Warning on: July 25, 2007, 02:47:11 PM

Quote from: Starshifter on July 25, 2007, 02:37:07 PM

So, is the 80's edition coming to the Xbox 360?
I don't think it's ever been mentioned.  Boggles the mind.
9355  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hold a tick...GH: Rocks the 80s Warning on: July 25, 2007, 02:23:53 PM
Help me remember my gaming history: when did the Red Octane/Harmonix split happen, May 2006?  And then 80s Edition was first announced as being in development in January '07?

Did a bit more digging:

May '06: Activision buys Red Octane for $100M
September '06: MTV buys Harmonix for $175M
January '07: We first hear of 80s Edition "already in development" with an expected Spring release

So when are they considered "split," when Activision makes the purchase or when MTV makes the purchase?
9356  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Microsoft's Shane Kim is an idiot. on: July 25, 2007, 01:58:33 PM
Oh man, that's not the only painful part of the interview:

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GI: I saw Halo 3, but itís not playable.

Kim: You will see it here.

GI: Itís not playable here.

Kim: In terms of you getting your hands on it? Maybe.

GI: It was being driven. Why wasnít the controller in my hands?

Kim: Thatís a good question for those guys. Obviously, they want to control the demo. Maybe theyíd let you pick it up.

GI: I asked.

Kim: They wouldnít let you pick it up?

GI: Nope.

Kim: I promise you, itís real.

GI: I went through the demo twice. Itís looking really nice. Halo Wars looks sick. You guys definitely have a great lineup. You do have a lot of games, but that being said, there are a lot of games that have been shown previously that are missing in action. Alan Wake, we saw a trailer last year. Thatís a big question mark.

Kim: Itís not this year.

GI: 2008?

Kim: Itís not this year.
9357  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hold a tick...GH: Rocks the 80s Warning on: July 25, 2007, 01:50:51 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on July 25, 2007, 01:41:07 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on July 25, 2007, 01:36:04 PM

Harmonix gets the benefit of the doubt from me until we discover some exposť unveiling what really happened in the Red Octane/Harmonix split that points the finger otherwise.  They earned their free pass as far as I'm concerned.

I like Harmonix plenty and Rock Band looks quite awesome on it's own merits but I see no reason they should be given a free pass for putting out shoddy product.

I can see where you're coming from, but you have to admit it's a tough position to be creating a product for your biggest competitor.  The more they impress the public with 80s Edition and build up the Guitar Hero name, the tougher the battle for Rock Band just 4 short months from now.

It just seems so bizarre that they would have Harmonix go through with 80s Edition after the split.  IMO when the split happened and everyone's plans changed, Red Octane should've just adapted 80s Edition to be a $20 downloadable add-on for Guitar Hero II on the 360.  The lack of bonus songs and new guitars to purchase becomes a non-issue, the DLC promises for GHII no longer look as empty, and you boost the Guitar Hero brand more than the $50 boxed 80s Edition seems to be doing.
9358  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hold a tick...GH: Rocks the 80s Warning on: July 25, 2007, 01:36:04 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on July 25, 2007, 01:27:03 PM

This situation with Rock the 80s vaguely pisses me off.  Mainly because it seems like everyones falling all over themselves slobbering over Harmonix because Rock Band looks so awesome to the point where Harmonix will get a free pass for crapping out this one.

Harmonix gets the benefit of the doubt from me until we discover some exposť unveiling what really happened in the Red Octane/Harmonix split that points the finger otherwise.  They earned their free pass as far as I'm concerned.
9359  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hold a tick...GH: Rocks the 80s Warning on: July 25, 2007, 01:03:15 PM

Quote from: ATB on July 25, 2007, 04:53:02 AM

Hold a tick?

9360  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Star Trek movie - Spock is cast on: July 25, 2007, 12:54:07 PM
Yeah, this one's going to be young Kirk and Spock at the Academy.

edit: I should say, that's the rumor going 'round.  A younger Kirk and Spock, at least.
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