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9321  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Say hello to Simba's new little sister [56k asplosion of photos] on: August 30, 2007, 05:39:33 PM
Holy shit, too fucking cute!  Congrats!
9322  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Here she comes, Mrs. America...er...Africa...er..whatever on: August 30, 2007, 12:00:17 PM
The ironic part is that she's Canadian, but when they asked her where she was from she pointed to South Carolina.
9323  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: omg Desktop thread on: August 30, 2007, 03:07:24 AM

Quote from: Gratch on August 29, 2007, 08:18:59 PM

Makes me realize I have entirely too many icons on my desktop.

Don't worry, you're not the only one:

9324  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Amazon - PS3 with 8 movies for $499.99! on: August 30, 2007, 02:35:15 AM
More like a clearance sa--

Hey that's not bad!  Hope there are still deals like this around when I get around to buying mine.
9325  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Here she comes, Mrs. America...er...Africa...er..whatever on: August 29, 2007, 04:16:50 PM

Quote from: Jag on August 29, 2007, 04:01:19 PM

George Bush said he had no problemo understandering her answerfication.

She did a heckuva job!
9326  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I want to kick all of your butts at Super Puzzle Fighter... PSN or Live for on: August 29, 2007, 03:47:22 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 29, 2007, 03:41:24 PM

never played it, so I'll be trying the demo first on XBL.

Uh...Dan is the best character for beginners, try using him first!   paranoid
9327  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: August 29, 2007, 03:31:52 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 29, 2007, 03:27:11 PM

Quote from: Xmann on August 29, 2007, 01:18:59 PM

Any word on whether there will be a microphone stand?  I'd love to play the guitar or drums and sing at the same time.

Actually any word on how the game registers the microphone for scoring?

Tone + Phonemes I think has been the official word.  Star power lets you do freeform vocals or some such.

I don't think I've heard anything about an official mic stand, but I'd imagine you could just use a regular one.
9328  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty 4 Hands-on Questions on: August 29, 2007, 02:57:52 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 29, 2007, 02:56:31 PM

I wonder if they're doing the same thing Rainbow Six Vegas did where you have 1 set of graphics for SP and another for SP.

You just blew my mind.
9329  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: EGM rumors - Okami on Wii and Kingdom Hearts games on: August 29, 2007, 12:52:09 PM

Quote from: Calvin on August 29, 2007, 06:59:34 AM

Quote from: EddieA on August 29, 2007, 06:13:01 AM

1Up has some rumors from the latest EGM - Kingdom Hearts is getting the FF7 treatment with a series of prequel games for different platforms, and Okami is coming to the Wii.  The KH news fits with what Square Enix has said about the next game wouldn't be KH3.
Okami on the wii makes a ton of sense.

I seem to remember us all wondering why it wasn't made a Wii launch title in the first place.
9330  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii] Carnival Games on: August 29, 2007, 03:07:41 AM
Considering it, hoping for impressions, may add it to the backlog of games to add to my backlog.
9331  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Here she comes, Mrs. America...er...Africa...er..whatever on: August 29, 2007, 02:00:50 AM
I'm going to throw out a guess that drifter probably doesn't mind too much if people make fun of this particular not-too-bright pageant contestant, but would rather not have all of the South categorically labeled as being stupid with her as evidence.
9332  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Topics Started Query? on: August 28, 2007, 07:01:00 PM
It already does the Top 10, did you have something else in mind?
9333  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: A question about Steam on: August 28, 2007, 06:45:25 PM
Just to second the advice, Steam seems to be pretty good at letting you know about compatibility with non-Steam versions.  The new Civilization expansion on Steam, for example, I believe says it will work with non-Steam.
9334  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: PR - Manga Entertainment's Anime Classics on: August 28, 2007, 03:42:57 PM
Some of the Super Go-Bots were actually kind of neat.  I had Staks, Psycho, and (sigh, yes this his name), Baron von Joy.

The Go-Bots "puzzler" line was also really cool, even when compared to Transformers combiners:


Sadly I only had the torso and one arm. frown
9335  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: August 28, 2007, 03:31:05 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 28, 2007, 03:07:24 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 28, 2007, 02:06:02 PM

There's a vid from PAX of someone playing. I'm even closer to canceling my pre-order.

linkage?

Quote from: Quipp@OO
Two more videos, this time from PAX '07.

First video (2:47) has Penny Arcade creators Gabe and Tycho playing Ok Go's Here It Goes Again.

The second video  (7:04) has Gabe, Tycho and Gabe's wife Kara rocking Bon Jovi's Wanted Dead Or Alive with all the bells and whistles of a real concert.
9336  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: August 28, 2007, 02:02:04 PM
I remember a USB hub being mentioned in the Penny-Arcade thread.  Don't know if that's the solution for the final game, or just for this early demo version.
9337  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: PS3 with two controllers for $375 total. What should I do? on: August 28, 2007, 01:19:06 AM
Yeah, if I had the cash available and saw it for that price sans any credit card signups I'd be all over that price.
9338  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Japanese baseball on: August 28, 2007, 01:17:34 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 28, 2007, 12:11:02 AM

I went to Devil yesterday and says to him, "you need to be stripping down to your baseballs"

 icon_eek
9339  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: PR - Manga Entertainment's Anime Classics on: August 27, 2007, 07:15:29 PM
Boy I hope the new moderation center in the big forum update helps the mods filter out these blatant viral marketers.  A quick 12,686 posts to gain our trust then BAM! here comes the spam.

(kidding!)

I'm confused about heavy.com, are these movies going to be offered for free or did I skim past the pricing?
9340  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: August 27, 2007, 06:38:03 PM

Quote from: jersoc on August 27, 2007, 06:26:02 PM

Once people warm up to the price, rock band is going to blow away any competition with ease.

See, I don't think people are going to warm up to the price.  Not for a good while.

My prediction:

I think the masses are going to go for Guitar Hero 3 because they know about it.  But enough of our kind will buy Rock Band, and word of mouth will spread in the same way it did for GH1&2.  The masses will have GH3 and a GH guitar, and they'll become curious enough to eventually buy the standalone Rock Band.  They'll find themselves liking it even better than GH, and will sooner or later break down and buy the drums to go with their GH guitar.

Alternate prediction:
If Harmonix can get Rock Band kiosks in the big box stores, and if the peripherals are tough enough to withstand the public abuse (I heard the drums used at PAX were worn out from months of use), Rock Band wins in the first round...by KO if there's a GH kiosk right next to the Rock Band kiosk.
9341  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GT Scariest Games Ever Thread on: August 27, 2007, 05:52:37 PM
I'll second:

System Shock 2
Clive Barker's Undying
Half-Life 2 Ravenholm

And add:

Counter-Strike
Day of Defeat

They might not be horror-themed games but I think each one alone has given me more "jump out of my seat" moments than every other game combined.
9342  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: August 27, 2007, 03:56:58 PM
Hey woah, I hadn't heard about this feature before:

Quote from: GAF
Another cool element is that you get to create your own set lists, so your shows can be as short or as long as you want and the encores are totally up to you!

Too cool.
9343  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Brave Story...A Wonderful PSP RPG Nobody Ever Played on: August 27, 2007, 03:44:23 PM
I'll be all over it as soon as I get my PSP and finish Final Fantasy Tactics.
9344  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: August 27, 2007, 02:37:53 PM
Do we have any GTers who got to try the game at PAX?
9345  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/27) on: August 27, 2007, 02:13:41 PM
Armageddon Empires
9346  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GT Scariest Games Ever Thread on: August 27, 2007, 02:06:54 PM
Any game on a 1st batch 360.
9347  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: August 27, 2007, 01:28:39 PM
Stopped by a Gamestop in a busy mall in California to ask how the preorders were going for Guitar Hero 3 and Rock Band.  The gal there said that she was getting more Guitar Hero preorders by far, pointing out that it's just a bit harder to sell people on "just $5 down now, and $195 when you pick it up!"

If I were Harmonix I'd be trying to convince people that even just the guitar portion of Rock Band is superior to the entirety of Guitar Hero 3.  The full RB equipment set is intimidating to buy, but if you can get your foot in the door with the base game--even sans guitar, taking advantage of the GH guitar install base--the RB peripherals and DLC addiction will come.
9348  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PC Exclusives on the Horizon on: August 26, 2007, 07:02:17 PM
For now, though, it's only announced for the PC.  On the list it goes!
9349  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360: Widescreen and fullscreen on: August 25, 2007, 05:15:26 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on August 24, 2007, 05:59:31 AM

I have a 19" screen, and a 23" wide screen.  The wide screen has a bigger screen.  Trust me.

Is the 23" wide screen bigger or smaller than this 4:3 screen?


Believe me, I understand what you guys are saying.  All I'm trying to illustrate that it is possible, however unlikely, that they might find a weakness, and exploit--

Wait, hold on.

I'm just trying to illustrate that it is possible, however unlikely, that the 16:9 Bioshock view is indeed perfect and whole and everything we would want out of widescreen, while the 4:3 view is a vertically extended rather than horizontally cropped adaptation.  If they had designed the 4:3 view to have letterbox black bars on the top and bottom, people might never have realized that they were supposed to be angry about the 16:9 view.
9350  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360: Widescreen and fullscreen on: August 24, 2007, 12:42:34 AM

Quote from: unbreakable on August 23, 2007, 06:11:24 PM

Because when you have a bigger screen, you should be seeing more, not less.

16:9 isn't a bigger screen, it's a different shape screen.  Both 4:3 screens and 16:9 screens come in many different sizes.
9351  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: July NPD - "The Wii is just a fad" on: August 24, 2007, 12:34:54 AM
I'm impressed with how well Guitar Hero 80s Edition sold.
9352  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bioshock pc review...pc better on: August 22, 2007, 06:03:56 PM
Here you go, Rainbow 6 Vegas, first person:

16:9, proper angle:


4:3 letterboxed, same angle:


4:3 extended, still same angle:


This could be the case for Bioshock, but we can't figure it out with the screenshots people have been posting.  What we need is for someone to do something like stand on the corner of a square rug in the game and see what kind of angle the edges make in 4:3 and 16:9.
9353  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bioshock pc review...pc better on: August 22, 2007, 05:44:48 PM
A third person game was indeed a bad choice, but my reasoning is consistent with the plot thickens explanation Kevin posted above.  My Gears of War example still works if you assume you are not the soldier behind cover, but someone behind him in the hallway with a first person view of the action.
9354  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bioshock pc review...pc better on: August 22, 2007, 05:32:04 PM
Re: unbreakable

I'm not sure if you're getting what I'm getting at.

Go go gadget Paint!

Gears of War, in 16:9, proper viewing angle:



Now we stick it on a 4:3 screen, with black bars on the top and bottom, still a proper viewing angle:



Now instead of black bars, let's extend the vertical view:



Per your illustration, the viewing angle would not be changed.  It's still the same 16:9 angle, but with more visibility on the top and bottom.

9355  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band - now with more awesomeness on: August 22, 2007, 05:06:03 PM

Quote from: Brendan on August 22, 2007, 04:52:22 PM

But that person's clearly wrong.

If you hit the wall at different angles it makes different sounds!  Weee!
9356  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bioshock pc review...pc better on: August 22, 2007, 05:05:36 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on August 22, 2007, 04:43:31 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on August 22, 2007, 04:35:28 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on August 22, 2007, 04:25:25 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on August 22, 2007, 04:20:23 PM

Would that extra visible space on the top and bottom really turn the view into a fish-eye effect?  To me it feels like it would just be like widening the visor that we're looking through when we're simulating human vision.

It's the same thing- you're widening the angle in both situations.  For whatever reason, the industry seems to have arrived at a FOV of 90 degrees as being "normal" for FPS on a 4:3 screen.  Anything beyond that is going to be abnormal which is what you would do in the second part of your example since you'd be giving yourself a 100+ degree FOV on a 4:3 screen. 

Thanks for your patience!  But how did the horizontal FOV change on my jury rigged 4:3 screen?  If you taped up a piece of cardboard on the top and bottom it would look exactly the same as that smaller 16:9 TV.



AFAIK, FOV only refers to horizontal width (someone correct me if I'm wrong).  If you take the viewing point of your eyes, then in a proper widescreen view you are seeing 100+ degree arc around you.  Adding information to the top and bottom of that ("opening the matte") doesn't change the width of that arc.

And this is what I've been trying to get at.  The widescreen view in Bioshock is wrong if it's not a 100 arc or whatever's proper for 16:9, it's not wrong just because it doesn't have extra real estate on the sides that the 4:3 view doesn't have.  In other words, you can't point to the extra top/bottom real estate in the 4:3 as proof that the 16:9 view is improper.  The 16:9 could be proper and the 4:3 could be (though we know now with Bioshock it is not) the same as my jury rigged TV: a 16:9 FOV with some bonus top/down visibility.
9357  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Community: I need your help. on: August 22, 2007, 04:42:31 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 22, 2007, 04:36:42 PM

Anything 'left over' will be used on our next trip.  It isn't going into my 'hey!  A new video card!' fund or anything like that. smile

Oh there you go being reasonable.  Times are tough for wiseasses.
9358  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bioshock pc review...pc better on: August 22, 2007, 04:35:28 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on August 22, 2007, 04:25:25 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on August 22, 2007, 04:20:23 PM

Would that extra visible space on the top and bottom really turn the view into a fish-eye effect?  To me it feels like it would just be like widening the visor that we're looking through when we're simulating human vision.

It's the same thing- you're widening the angle in both situations.  For whatever reason, the industry seems to have arrived at a FOV of 90 degrees as being "normal" for FPS on a 4:3 screen.  Anything beyond that is going to be abnormal which is what you would do in the second part of your example since you'd be giving yourself a 100+ degree FOV on a 4:3 screen. 

Thanks for your patience!  But how did the horizontal FOV change on my jury rigged 4:3 screen?  If you taped up a piece of cardboard on the top and bottom it would look exactly the same as that smaller 16:9 TV.

Why does an increased vertical view turn it into a different FOV angle?  If I close one eye, in real life I'd have a conical, not letterboxed view, and it feels like my jury rigged 4:3 screen is just showing me more of the up/down that we crop out of games, movies, and TV because it's less interesting.
9359  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bioshock pc review...pc better on: August 22, 2007, 04:20:23 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on August 22, 2007, 03:56:18 PM

Ok, I'm on board.

Wait, sorry!  Still resisting!

Start with a 16:9 TV.  Let's say the screen is exactly 20" from top to bottom.  FOV is correct and does not look distorted.

Tape a red 4x3 rectangle onto the screen.  There is obviously screen real estate to the right and left of the box.

Now we hold up another, smaller 16:9 TV.  The left and right sides of the screen fit exactly inside the red box.  Smaller screen, but it's still 16:9 so the FOV is still correct and it does not look distorted.

Finally, magically add some pixels above and below that smaller 16:9 TV, so that it fills the red box, making this TV 20" from top to bottom.  Would that extra visible space on the top and bottom really turn the view into a fish-eye effect?  To me it feels like it would just be like widening the visor that we're looking through when we're simulating human vision.
9360  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Community: I need your help. on: August 22, 2007, 03:58:11 PM

Quote from: DamageInc on August 22, 2007, 03:54:42 PM

Payment sent from Mr_joshua account.

Good luck to you and the team.

What's the money go to now, bribes to EA? slywink
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