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121  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 19, 2012, 05:02:56 PM
Stuart still dropped the gloves first which was the argument used in the Staubitz-Reaves situation, when Staubitz was only given an unsportsmanlike, instead of the instigator and 10-minute misconduct he should have received.  Pick and choose all you want, also.

ain't no picking and choosing with what Warren Peters did.
122  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 19, 2012, 04:45:24 PM
5 minute major, game misconduct to Peters.  Faces hearing today.

Of course, if hitting people legally was omitted - totally guilty, pr0ner.  The Wild got hit, were getting dominated, and over-reacted.

It was still cowardly by the Wild.  3 guys taking shots at one - with a vicious cross-check to the head involved.
123  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 19, 2012, 04:57:16 AM
The oh so brave Minnesota Wild down 3-0 in a game knowing they won't face the Blues again this season unless they hold on and reach the playoffs.

124  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Who is Apple going after this week? on: February 18, 2012, 04:49:57 AM
The GUI thing   Microsoft actually copied the original Mac interface in the first iteration of Windows.  There was a lawsuit back then, too.
125  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 18, 2012, 03:55:31 AM
At least the Wings won in regulation this time.  slywink
126  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Who is Apple going after this week? on: February 16, 2012, 03:37:46 PM
Apple isn't helping themselves when they sue someone then use altered photos in court as evidence.  Yes, Apple actually did this when they were suing Samsung in Europe for supposedly copying the iPad.  Apple lost.

127  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 15, 2012, 04:48:34 AM
I enjoy my hatred of the Red Wings and will continue to point out that no Red Wings has been suspended or fined this regular season, in spite of several Red Wings doing things which other players have been suspended and fined for committing.  Of course, the former Red Wing Brendan Shanahan is showing absolutely no bias by not even reviewing tapes teams send to him to review of Red Wings possible infractions.   Roll Eyes  And that no Red Wings fan will even bother to admit the Wings ever seem to do anything suspension or fine worthy.   Missing calls on the ice is one thing.  Refusing to review tapes of incidents involving charging and hits to the head is something else.

It's not like Shanahan left St Louis in disgrace after screwing Craig Janney's wife or anything.  Of course, he won't have any bias in regards to St Louis.  Roll Eyes

There should be more than a single individual determining whether or not incidents should be reviewed and whether or not fines and suspensions are necessary.  Having a single individual performing this task will always lead to claims of bias - just like it did with Colin Campbell last season.

 
128  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 15, 2012, 03:08:26 AM

Quote from: gellar on February 15, 2012, 02:48:03 AM

Quote from: theohall on February 15, 2012, 02:45:01 AM

I'm just sayin'

Without the created wins via shootouts - the Wings home win streak ended at 12 games.   Not even close to the 3 70s Bruins streaks or the Flyers actual 20-game streak.

Individual scoring stats, goaltending stats - yes, they very by era - but they vary by era usually based upon skill levels, not the league inflating wins and point totals by creating wins via a glorified skills competition.

IMO, shootout wins should not count in "win" streaks.  They don't count when determining playoff standing.  They don't exist in the playoffs.  So if they don't count for those two things, why should they count as in "official" win streaks??  The league set those rules and is picking and choosing when they should and should not apply.  If more important things don't count, why should "streaks" count when a shootout is involved?

1)  OK terrific.
2)  Shootout wins award an extra point, so they certainly count when determining playoff standing.  Non shootout wins are a tiebreaker when the point totals are the same, but that's the only time they 'don't count'.
3)  Using your logic, you could argue that any goals or assists recorded in OT shouldn't count towards a players total because it would be unfair to the players whose records you are comparing them against from the previous era when there was no OT whatsoever.
4)  OK, terrific.

Wins vs individual stats are different - at least they are to me.  There was this same debate raised about "most points in a season" when they added games to the schedule and altered it to artificially inflate point totals with SO wins eliminating ties.

The Wings supposed accomplishment is crap and anyone with a reasonable knowledge of hockey history and what the 70s Bruins and Flyers accomplished compared to this current BS streak actually agrees.  Heck, most of you posting about this probably weren't even alive when those streaks happened and have no idea of their significance compared to the BS the Red Wings are doing now.
129  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 15, 2012, 02:46:14 AM
At least I admit when the Blues F up  - unlike the anointed ones.....
130  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 15, 2012, 02:45:01 AM
I'm just sayin'

Without the created wins via shootouts - the Wings home win streak ended at 12 games.   Not even close to the 3 70s Bruins streaks or the Flyers actual 20-game streak.

Individual scoring stats, goaltending stats - yes, they very by era - but they vary by era usually based upon skill levels, not the league inflating wins and point totals by creating wins via a glorified skills competition.

IMO, shootout wins should not count in "win" streaks.  They don't count when determining playoff standing.  They don't exist in the playoffs.  So if they don't count for those two things, why should they count as in "official" win streaks??  The league set those rules and is picking and choosing when they should and should not apply.  If more important things don't count, why should "streaks" count when a shootout is involved?
131  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] The Bourne Legacy on: February 15, 2012, 02:39:51 AM

Quote from: Blackjack on February 13, 2012, 08:58:28 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on February 13, 2012, 07:29:22 PM

that actually looks kinda cool.  needs more shaky cam though.
No! It needs more Found Footage!  retard

Actually, the back story is that Tony Gilroy (directed Michael Clayton a few years back and scripted the previous Bourne films) hated what Doug Liman and Paul Greengrass did with those Bourne scripts even though they were tremendously successful, and any interview you look up, he'll go on and on about it. I'm not sure what that means for this film. Not sure if that means we'll see less shaky cam, a little more plotting, or what.

I like Jeremy Renner, and anyone who saw The Town or MI 4 knows he can handle his guns and look tough and ready for action. He's still not quite as Big a Name as Matt Damon though and it'll be interesting to see whether he can carry this off box office wise.
The trailers I have seen of "Legacy" actually are encouraging me to see the film.  The action sequences aren't shaky-cam sequences in the trailer.  Tony Gilroy's other action film - very little use of shaky-cam.  Friggin' Greengrass is a lame-ass director incapable of shooting an action sequence without using the shaky-cam crutch.  Heck, he used the damn shaky-cam when characters were talking on the phone.  I am glad Gilroy is getting to direct his own script.  While the scripts did divert from the novels in a huge way, the over-use of a particular filming technique ruined the films for those who can't stand sitting through an almost non-stop epileptic filming fit.
132  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 15, 2012, 02:14:46 AM
I am calling Bullshit! on the Redwings 20-game win streak as actually mattering in comparison to the Bruins streak in the 20s and the Flyers streak in the 70s.

In the 1920s and 1970s shootout wins did not exist.  75-76 Flyers did not even have 5-on-5 OT.  That means 4 games that count in the Red Wings streak would  never have counted for the Flyers or Bruins.

So going back to real hockey and not this BS shoot out wins, the Red Wings home win "streak" ended on Jan 12, 2012 at 12 games.   The Bruins did better 3 times with 15, 16, and 19 game streaks without even 5-5 OTs or shootouts back in the '70s.

It's shocking to me the NHL media is actually touting this current Wings "winning" streak when it's been created by altering the rules which artificially inflates "won" games.
133  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] The Bourne Legacy on: February 13, 2012, 01:02:05 AM
The lead character in the Bourne Legacy novel is Jason Bourne's son, anyway, so no need to make another Matt Damon as Bourne movie.  Even though the first three movies bore almost no resemblance to the novels.
134  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Revolution on: February 12, 2012, 09:59:05 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on February 12, 2012, 08:28:18 PM

yeah, with out solar energy this show is doa

Or wind power, or power created via waterways, or any other thing which involves physics that generates energy by one natural phenomenon moving a machine created by man, or friction.... and on and on and on....
135  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 10, 2012, 05:19:28 PM

Quote from: Devil on February 10, 2012, 04:38:08 PM

Quote from: theohall on February 10, 2012, 02:40:51 PM

Quote from: Devil on February 10, 2012, 02:40:16 AM

That was fun! Hate the shootout!
Devils should have won.  Kovalchuk missing 5 shots on net, twice when he had plenty of net to see, let the game get to OT.

Including last night, the.Blues have scored a total of 5 goals on 29 shootout chances.  Yeah, it hasn't been pretty. I feel lucky the Blues won.

Kovy has been on FIRE. Without the assists, they would have lost anyway.

The Devils have been great in the shootout. Last night was a rare stink-fest where they got nothing.

What was your thoughts on the Foster 5 Min boarding? Definitely was a boarding. Didn't think it really deserved 5 though.

It was a high stick too on that goal. Not complaining though, that stuff happens and it was a really good game to watch.

the boarding didn't deserve 5.   But... the rules state if someone is injured when boarded - it's an automatic 5 and game - and Porter's face was clearly cut.  Zero tolerance in the rules made the determination on that call.  I am betting the official initially intended to only give a 2-minute boarding minor, which is what I expected, but the cut face forced the change in the call.

Only complaint I had on officiating was the BS interference call on Backes in the 3rd.  Kovalchenko is clearly interfering with him - stick sideways, arms fully extended pushing on Backes - puck nowhere to be seen - forcing Backes into Hedberg.  Yet, it's interference on Backes, when it clearly should have been interference on Kovalchenko.  Without the contact from Kovalchenko, Backes skates in front of Hedberg without touching him at all.  This has been the hot issue this week - questionable interference calls involving goalies - and is the topic being most discussed in regards to potentially adding a coach's challenge on those types of calls.

As to the "high-stick" goal - depends on which angle you view it from.  From behind - it looks like a high-stick.  From the front, it looks like a good goal.  With it being called a goal on the ice, that is not enough to overturn.  Had they called it a high-stick on the ice, that likely would have stood.  Tough break for the Devils on that one as the on-ice call determined the outcome.
136  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 10, 2012, 02:40:51 PM

Quote from: Devil on February 10, 2012, 02:40:16 AM

That was fun! Hate the shootout!
Devils should have won.  Kovalchuk missing 5 shots on net, twice when he had plenty of net to see, let the game get to OT.

Including last night, the.Blues have scored a total of 5 goals on 29 shootout chances.  Yeah, it hasn't been pretty. I feel lucky the Blues won.
137  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 09, 2012, 11:53:19 PM

Quote from: Devil on February 09, 2012, 06:44:46 PM

theo - Who you playin tonight?

The Devils slywink  Go Blues!!  Lucky for you the Devils get the Blues in NJ this season.
138  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 09, 2012, 06:40:22 PM
IMO, the ref really screwed up waiving off Lucic's goal for incidental contact with the goalie.  If that was worthy of waiving off a goal, lots more goals should not have counted this season.

Boston's reaction, though, showed a severe lack of composure.
139  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] G.I Joe 2: Retaliation on: February 06, 2012, 06:53:51 PM

Quote from: Teggy on February 06, 2012, 05:55:30 PM

I'm really curious about this one - the commercials don't show any of the characters from the first movie and make it out to be a Bruce Willis/Rock vehicle. I've heard that the premise of the movie is that most of the Joes get wiped out at the beginning, but I can't help thinking it's a big bait and switch and Bruce Willis is in like 5 minutes of the movie like Planet Terror.

[imdb]When Cobra spy Zartan has most of the Joes assassinated, the remaining Joes band together to strike back.[/imdb]
140  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 05, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Pekka Rinne is friggin' ridiculous.  Blues outshot Preds 43-37 yet only scored 1 goal.  Rinne made several absolutely ridiculous saves in the 3rd period preserve the Preds one goal lead before they secured the game with the empty netter.

One thing that was absolutely ridiculous - Langenbrunner and Hornqvist accidentally hit knee on knee and both went down awkwardly.  While Langenbrunner is starting to get to his knees, Legwand raises his stick to shoulder level and cross-checks Langenbrunner square in the back with what looks like a clear attempt to injure type cross-check.  The ref stares right at the cross-check, turns his head and looks at Hornqvist while calling absolutely nothing.  That is the kind of non-call crap that is driving me nuts when guys will be falling over, a stick touches their leg after they start falling and a hooking call results. 
141  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: February 02, 2012, 07:17:36 PM
That is actually accurate.  Watch the clock during the last minute of any sport when they count tenths.  You will see occasional hangs.
142  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Book] Ready Player One on: February 02, 2012, 05:55:51 PM

Quote from: Jag on February 02, 2012, 05:22:46 PM

Seriously. If you don't know how to get to the secret room in Adventure, then this book is not for you.  icon_cool

There is a SECRET room in Adventure?  Dammit!!! Thanks for spoiling it.  icon_mad



















Spoiler for Hiden:
icon_wink

143  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Book] Ready Player One on: February 02, 2012, 05:07:51 PM

Quote from: KC on December 18, 2011, 01:32:08 PM

I just finished the book.  It was good except that the last couple of chapters seemed rushed. Also, having been in high school in the 80s, a lot of pop culture seemed to be missing:

Top Gun
Wrath of Khan
Madonna
Rock Lobster
Miami Vice

Miami Vice, Madonna, Rock Lobster and Top Gun were not "geekie", they were "cool."  So I, having grown up through the era, understand the lack of references to them.  Wrath of Khan probably should've fit in somewhere.  Remember, Halliday was the awkward geek not into the popular things back in his day.  I couldn't stand Miami Vice and made fun of the "cool" kids dressing like they were in the show - which was a popular fad among the "popular" kids.
144  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [FX] Justified on: January 31, 2012, 12:47:45 AM

Quote from: hepcat on January 30, 2012, 04:43:49 PM

I had to look up Bass Reeves after he was mentioned on the show last week.  And they're right, he completely deserves a movie made about his life. 

...just don't let Lucas get hold of the rights.

It's been made and mentioned in your link.

Quote
Bass Reeves, a fictionalized film of his life and career was released by Ponderous Productions of San Antonio in 2010
  It does deserve a bigger screen version, though, and most definitely not a Lucas version.
145  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 23, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
The Blues are probably going to try and move G Ben Bishop.  He's currently 17-12-3 with a .926 save percentage and 2.36 GAA on a bad Peoria Rivermen team.  The issue is free agency.  If he doesn't play 17 NHL games this season, he becomes a UFA this July, so the Blues will try to get something from someone, whether it is just draft picks or a sign-and-trade type deal.  With Elliott having signed a 2-year contract extension, Bishop won't get those games unless some bizarre set of goalie injuries happens to Halak and Elliott.
146  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 23, 2012, 03:27:43 PM
And the ridiculousness of the scheduling continues...

While the Blues have played a ton of home games, they will be playing Detroit in Detroit for the 3rd time in less than 30 days... Roll Eyes

Is this important?  Yes.  The Blues are dominating at home as are the Wings.  Why can't they balance this thing out a little more?

Oh, well.  One of these days the NHL won't screw someone over with ridiculous scheduling that has a team playing over 80% if their home games in a 3 month window (a mid-season window at that) - with the exception of facing one specific key division rival on the road 3 times in less than month in that same 3 month window.

I think I am done ranting on this one.
147  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 22, 2012, 08:53:02 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on January 22, 2012, 03:23:55 AM

So much for having the Sabres game pull me out of my funk.  Egad, are they bad right now.
they did play the Blues who are one of the best teams playing right now.
148  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NBC]Southland on: January 20, 2012, 01:59:36 AM
They are going to force me into being a pirate in order to see the first episode from this season.
149  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 19, 2012, 05:09:01 PM
David Perron missed 92 games, but did not make the mistake of trying to return to early, which is what it looks like Crosby did.
150  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: In Case You Missed Ricky Gervais on: January 15, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
While I missed this thread last year, the GG's most have a sense of humour.  The first presenter was Scarlet Johanssen and her GGs.  slywink
151  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2011 Divisional Playoff Discussion on: January 15, 2012, 02:37:02 PM

Quote from: naednek on January 15, 2012, 03:37:56 AM

Quote from: Gratch on January 15, 2012, 02:39:14 AM

Quote from: naednek on January 15, 2012, 02:04:27 AM

Quote from: Gratch on January 15, 2012, 01:42:25 AM

Quote from: naednek on January 15, 2012, 01:26:02 AM

WOot Woot, Alex finally won his first game this season!

 saywhat

if you watched the niners play this season you wouldn't be  saywhat

I recall some pretty ballsy 4th quarter comebacks he lead against both Detroit and Philly, not to mention the, oh, 13 games the Niners won.  Granted, he's not going to knock anyone's socks off, but Alex been really solid this year.

ya the philly game was his first.  Too much alcohol during this game, forgot about that one and I even highlighted in my highlight video.  But with that said, most of their wins were due to the Defense and the special team giving Alex and crew a short field, and had to mainly rely on Akers to do the scoring.

Not trying to be negative, I was just happy to see him take charge.  In the past they couldn't rely on him.  His rushing TD was a statement to all of his detractors, like me biggrin 

the rushing TD was a college play that exposed the Saints DL and LBs complete lack of speed.  Heck, that was a 1940s-ish running play.
152  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] M.S. One on: January 14, 2012, 12:24:20 AM

Quote from: hepcat on January 13, 2012, 09:57:30 PM

Quote from: Roman on January 13, 2012, 09:52:13 PM

straight to DVD.

blah blah and Luc Besson as a writer blah blah

I'm in.  smile
153  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 13, 2012, 11:29:46 PM

Quote from: Devil on January 13, 2012, 09:30:38 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 13, 2012, 06:44:33 PM


That's AWESOME!! It will be my 3rd city with that team! Would love to see Vegas!

Put a team in Vegas and then try to set up balanced conferences for travel reasons.   saywhat
154  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 13, 2012, 02:11:01 PM

Quote from: kronovan on January 13, 2012, 03:58:22 AM

I think its a good trade to get Cammalerri back. If he can get back to even being close to the pace he previously had with the Flames, their chances of playing in the post season just got a heckuval lot better.

I don't know how the Canucks managed to beat the best-at-home-record Blues in their own rink, but somehow they did. I'd make the comment that Luongo won the game, but he did put the 2nd goal in his own net.  Roll Eyes Still, considering he made 2 saves on short-handed break aways,  he certaintly deserves a lot of the credit for the win.

Fortunate break, literally, in OT.  Blues coaches tell players if they break a stick on a PK, go to the bench and get a new one, or have someone jump in your place.  4-on-3 in OT, Oshie's stick breaks, he goes to the bench for a twig, so it is not 4-on-2, the Canucks score through the lane Oshie vacated.  Blues coaches apologized to the players after the game for not adjusting that philosophy in a 4-on-3 situation.  Great game, though.  Backes was crushing Burrows for most of the game, but took a late boarding penalty simply because Burrows was weak on his doggone skates and Burrows had been bitching to the refs the whole game, because he didn't like getting hit.  It worked for the Canucks getting them that late power play - called at 19:40 of the 3rd period in a tie game.
155  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 11, 2012, 03:12:06 AM
And the Blues shutout Montreal in Montreal to move into first place in the Central with a matchup against Vancouver on Thursday night and a chance to match the Canucks Western Conference leading 55 points.
156  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2011 Wildcard Weekend Discussion on: January 10, 2012, 09:34:41 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 10, 2012, 07:41:23 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on January 10, 2012, 07:34:06 PM

ESPN is reporting that the Raiders fired their coach.  Kind of shocking as he was pretty well liked around here, even after all the madness this season.

He made the atrocious Carson Palmer trade.  For that reason alone he needed to be fired.

It's also an out with the old, in with the new approach without any influence from Big Al.
157  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2011 Wildcard Weekend Discussion on: January 09, 2012, 12:47:54 AM

Quote from: Zinfan on January 09, 2012, 12:23:07 AM

Hate when ref's blow whistle too soon, Steelers would be dead if that lateral/fumble was called correctly.

Talk sports going to go ballistic tomorrow no matter what the outcome of this game, either Tebow or Lateral no call.

Because a lateral is a fumble, that play should have been reviewable, even if they blew the whistle.  They changed that review rule because of a Chargers game last season when Rivers clearly fumbled, the other team clearly recovered, but the ref didn't allow the challenge.  Ref blew it saying the Broncos could not get possession because the whistle blew.  I hate it when refs don't apply the significant rules changes in a playoff game they instituted at the beginning of a season because of refs screwing up.
158  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 08, 2012, 06:23:49 PM
Reading the articles, it looks like the NHL was trying to pull a "power move" on the NHLPA.  NHLPA asked for stuff - like what travel would look like and the impact it would have on players being in playoff games due to the unbalanced conferences - and the NHL basically sent them crap in return. 

Bettman even mentioned back when this was announced that it still required NHLPA approval and established the deadline.  I blame the NHL for not actually negotiating, as in never once offering to get together with the NHLPA do discuss it, and letting the deadline pass.  The NHL than has the gall to blame the NHLPA for not approving something in which they had zero say?

While the re-alignment will reduce travel for the current Western conference teams, it will increase travel for all of the Eastern Conference teams (except Winnipeg) due to the home and home requirements they proposed. 

Then there is the issue of players having an equal opportunity to reach the playoffs.  With two seven team conferences and two six team conferences, this is not "fair" to those players in the 7 team conferences.

It's not as open and shut as the league would have us believe.

Heck, I don't like having conferences with different numbers of teams, either.  The baseball Cardinals, and all the other teams in the NL Central, have dealt with this for years, being the only 6 team division in MLB.  At least that is finally getting fixed with the Astros moving to the AL.
159  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 06, 2012, 02:44:08 AM

Quote from: gellar on January 04, 2012, 11:22:11 PM

Quote from: theohall on January 04, 2012, 10:51:53 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 04, 2012, 09:47:54 PM

Quote from: Jiffy on January 04, 2012, 09:38:14 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 04, 2012, 04:24:56 AM

Quote from: ScubaV on January 04, 2012, 03:44:29 AM

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/12/red_wings_in_talks_with_nhl_to.html

Old article, but Detroit should get to host one of the next two WC's.  Question is, do they do it in Comerica Park in Detroit or go for the big #'s at the Big House?  Also, who do they play?

HBO must be unhappy with this.  Detroit (while a very good hockey team) is just not an interesting group of people, from what I can tell.

That being said, they obviously deserve to host a Winter Classic if you ignore the HBO aspect.  I think the obvious opponent is Chicago.  St. Louis may also be a good call if they continue on their upward trajectory.

Another interesting choice is Colorado.  They can play the old school animosity angle.

I agree that Chicago would be obvious choice, but I wouldn't be surprised if Toronto was the opponent. Certainly I'd pick them before St. Louis, even though they aren't in the same conference. Original 6 team + upward tracking (somewhat) + guaranteed MASSIVE crowd. Put it in the Big House and I bet Leaf fans will ensure the place is sold out. Their fans are bonkers.

That's a good point.  I don't know that a St. Louis fanbase would travel to Michigan to make the game.
I believe that is an unfair criticism.  It's not like a bunch of new york fans bothered to travel that tiny distance to philly, but that didn't stop the nhl from scheduling that one.
St louis at least would draw a hell of a lot better tv rating in st louis than the new yorkers generated in NY.

Yeah but others went to Philly to be part of the spectacle in that Philly is actually not a bad city to visit for any sort of hockey fan/vacationer.

Just don't wear your own team's non-Flyers's gear.  Tongue
160  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: Re: NHL Season 2011-2012 on: January 04, 2012, 10:51:53 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 04, 2012, 09:47:54 PM

Quote from: Jiffy on January 04, 2012, 09:38:14 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 04, 2012, 04:24:56 AM

Quote from: ScubaV on January 04, 2012, 03:44:29 AM

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/12/red_wings_in_talks_with_nhl_to.html

Old article, but Detroit should get to host one of the next two WC's.  Question is, do they do it in Comerica Park in Detroit or go for the big #'s at the Big House?  Also, who do they play?

HBO must be unhappy with this.  Detroit (while a very good hockey team) is just not an interesting group of people, from what I can tell.

That being said, they obviously deserve to host a Winter Classic if you ignore the HBO aspect.  I think the obvious opponent is Chicago.  St. Louis may also be a good call if they continue on their upward trajectory.

Another interesting choice is Colorado.  They can play the old school animosity angle.

I agree that Chicago would be obvious choice, but I wouldn't be surprised if Toronto was the opponent. Certainly I'd pick them before St. Louis, even though they aren't in the same conference. Original 6 team + upward tracking (somewhat) + guaranteed MASSIVE crowd. Put it in the Big House and I bet Leaf fans will ensure the place is sold out. Their fans are bonkers.

That's a good point.  I don't know that a St. Louis fanbase would travel to Michigan to make the game.
I believe that is an unfair criticism.  It's not like a bunch of new york fans bothered to travel that tiny distance to philly, but that didn't stop the nhl from scheduling that one.
St louis at least would draw a hell of a lot better tv rating in st louis than the new yorkers generated in NY.
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