[theohall]

On the random assumption that at least one of the three votes already cast is by a wolf, I'm going to go with theohall.

Triggercut principle - lynch Isgrimnur  He is just as likely a wolf.

I will leave it up to everyone else to decide.

[lynch Qantaga[/n].]

A miss today and a kill tonight results in a win for the wolves.  The wolves have no need to play for a zerker activation.

All the more reason for any special alive to announce what they know.  I'm guessing those that have written recently aren't specials ( or are still hiding ) - who has yet to speak?

All remaining villagers have posted at least once, so my guess is the Specials are dead already.  With that being the case, I will go with the top guy on my list - although I really want to vote for rickfc.  The self-voting crap got way out of hand in this one.

lynch Qantaga[/n].

Nice writeup, Qantaga wolf-breath.  My take.

1. Qantaga - seems almost too careful in everything he has done.  It appears CeeKay's self-vote thing was an effort to draw out the wolves.  He thinks my play to backoff his vote makes me a wolf, while Qantaga's decision to vote for him makes Qantaga.  I can see CeeKay's thinking on Qantaga.  You all have to make your own decision about me.
2. rickfc - the pounce on CeeKay with the kthxbai line puts a really big blip on my radar.
3/4/5. Cragmyre/Moliere/Isgrimnur - no read at all.  Effective wolves are these kind of guys.
6. envy24 - I had CeeKay and envy24 being wolves playing off of each other.  That was clearly wrong, which means having to re-think any position on envy24, in spite of CeeKay's death claim.
7. rshetts2 - raven"Seer"ven (just a guess, I am not a special giving him this role) cleared him.
8. theohall - because I am not going to lynch myself and let the wolves win.  See #1.

Option 1) We wait for the specials so say something.
Option 2) Go with CeeKay's suspect list - even if it you all think I am a wolf.
Option 3) Guess - which would completely suck.

I am not confident Option 1 will happen, because we should have heard something from them by now.  What I fear is the wolves already killed them.

For Option 2 my first vote would be Qantaga.  He keeps seeming to be in on votes right towards the end, and CeeKay may have actually figured something out with his sacrifice.  Still sucks he had to self-vote for that to happen, though.

Option 3 means the wolves will probably win

Please - be patient this time so we can form a consensus before running someone up the hangman's gibbet over lunch break.

Annnnd evidence:

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2010/09/communication-p.html

After today's loss Mike Singletary  lamented yet another game in which communication snufus haunted the 49ers. Smith burned three timeouts in the first half. Two of them came on third downs on the same second-quarter drive on which the 49ers also had a delay-of-game penalty of fourth and 1 at the Seattle 1 yard line.

But Smith said his headset -- a problem in the past -- only cut out on him once. The other problems, he said, were due to the 49ers coaches not getting the play in quickly enough. The 49ers relay their calls like this: Offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye is in the booth. He calls the play to quarterbacks coach Mike Johnson, who is on the sideline, and Johnson calls it into Smith. Smith's radio headset automatically cuts out with 15 seconds left on the play clock.

In some instances such as fourth-and-short scenarios, Singletary first had to decide whether to kick field goals or go for the first down. Smith said that those situations slowed down the process. "Oh yeah, it's frustrating," Smith said. "Absolutely."

If you can't get the fucking plays in, you do not deserve your job.  You fucks.

With the QB wearing a headset, what is the point of the middle man, Mike Johnson?  That is an idiotic setup from the get-go.

If it is 4th and one, how much input from the sideline does any decent QB need if he knows the playbook?

It was more of smith sucking and the pass defense

The team came out and dominated for the first 10 minutes.  In those 10 minutes, the coaching staff had 8 plays inside of the ONE yard line.  They called plays for Moran Norris on TWO of those plays.

This coaching staff is awful.

Who is Moron Norris.  If he is a relative of Chuck, he should be fine.

Shocked at how well the Pats defense played when it counted.

Not shocked about Moss and his stupidity after the game.

Eagles were OK.

#85, T Oops, and Matt Moore vs 5 combined CB starts = Pats blowout.  So is the rest of the world finally going to admit the loud mouths r over-rated?

Fortunately for GB, Vick still cannot hit the broadside of a barn .

I would tell the wolves and specials to send their PMs to CeeKay so this can move along once he fakes JayDee's login and does the writeup, but he should already be PMing the wolves. 

I remember in Soulchild's called game DarkEl was pushing a good winning strategy for the villagers. He didn't even get suspected until right before the game was called.

That's nice.  You keep pointing out my late withdrawal when you were near getting lynched as the reason I'm a wolf trying to protect myself.  I pulled the vote, because you self-voted and wanted to continue the discussion, nothing more.  Keep trying to push my supposed guilt if you want.  At least I'm trying to get the rest of us villagers on the same page and actually garner info, instead of just quitting with a self-vote which help put the wolves one lynch away from winning if you are an innocent villager.

Fellow Villagers, have we let the wolves kill all of our specials, already?  Are we going to enter this night knowing next to nothing and having no information for tomorrow, other than the conjecture from our posts?

It's now or never.

Let's pretend CeeKay actually is the innocent villager he claims to be, although why a villager would hang himself still bugs me, then today is a miss and the wolves kill someone tonight.  Say the wolves kill me tonight - simply for counting purposes.

1. rshetts2
2. rickfc
3. Moliere
4. Qantaga
5. Isgrimnur
6. Bulletpig - wolf snack
7. Soulchilde - lynched villager
8. envy24
9. Cragmyre
10. CeeKay - potential villager/wolf - counting as villager for now
11. theohall - potential wolf food
12. newcastle - lynched villager
13. ravenvii


Scenarios based on CeeKay not being beasty:
1) 8 villagers (3 wolves) - Majority is 4.  A miss tomorrow + night kill = 6 villagers (3 wolves) wolves win.
2) 8 villagers (3 wolves) - Majority is 4.  Find the Alpha or Beta wolf.  Night kill.  It's 6 villagers (2 wolves) - Majority 3.  Lived for another day, but still in the 1 miss and it's over scenario.
3) 8 villagers (3 wolves) - Majority is 4.  Find the Berzerker.  He takes a random villager.  Wolves get a night kill. 5 villagers (2 wolves) - Majority 3.  Still in the 1 miss and it is over scenario.

Does everyone - especially whomever has info that would help us narrow the field - understand there is not time to wait for further scans?

Not having any powers, I have nothing to add other than trying to figure out who is what by what is written.  The quick lynches after someone has hit N-1 have severely limited this.

just to let you all know I had Jaydee taken out yesterday, so there can be no resolution 

Why are you going on dates with JayDee?

Which is why, this:

If someone has information, they need to start sharing before the village becomes wolf food, so we can narrow the suspect list

is the most sensible thing you said.  

What's so surprising about that?   

It was a poor attempt at humor.  I will go back to being nonsensical again.

We need some honorable keh-niggets to help us hunt down these wolves.

Which is why, this:

If someone has information, they need to start sharing before the village becomes wolf food, so we can narrow the suspect list

is the most sensible thing you said.  

[Withdraw CeeKay]

This...

Yes,  his kills role will not be immediately revealed.  This is only problematic if the priest is dead as it would make sense to scan that kill tonite.  Also Im not sure if by role it was meant to include wolfishness as it would seem that death in any form would reveal the wolf's true nature,  other wise the hunter could possibly kill the last wolf but we would never know that we did and would continue to lynch each other until we reached a complete stalemate.  I guess we will need some clarification on that point. 


Regarding the current situation,  I dont want to see Ceekay lynched until we can solidify our strategy and since the wolves could possibly push him over  I will Withdraw CeeKay  until we clear this up.  I still feel he is our best candidate,  I just want us on the same page here.  I will happily pull the lever on his furry neck myself once we do so. 

This.  Withdraw CeeKay...

And this....

kthxbai, CeeKay...

Don't jive.  Why would he write the above if he did not know his vote was the Nth vote?

- Once a majority is reached on a lynch vote, the vote is closed.

I tried to slow this down, but once again, the wolves piled on at the end.

but you voted for CeeKay twice...not saying CK shouldnt get lynched just saying its odd that you would be so eager to vote for someone when you are trying to slow a lynch down...You just moved to the top of my list of possible lycan

And I withdrew when he self-voted, because it seemed wrong for any wolf to do.  Part of this is getting folks to say and do things, and then, judging them based on what they say or do.  I thought you and CeeKay were a pair of wolves.  The self-vote thing makes me think he is not a wolf and wanted to give him time to withdraw the vote, so we could garner information about someone else.  But the wolves just piled on and lynched him anyway.

If he comes back innocent and not the Berserker Wolf, I'd be taking a long hard look at everyone who lynched him.

Soulchilde (7): theohall, ravenvii, Bulletpig, Moliere, envy24, Cragmyre, Isgrimnur
newcastle (7) : CeeKay, rickfc, Bulletpig, Isgrimnur, envy24, ravenvii, Moliere
CeeKay (6): rshetts2, Moliere, Isgrimnur, CeeKay, Qantaga, rickfc

The wolves are in there somewhere.

Isgrimnur and Moliere - one of them could be, but it wouldn't be smart as a wolf to be in on every lynch
envy24, ravenvii, rickfc - all are in on two of the votes which is the kind of thing one would expect from wolves.
I would mention CeeKay, but he is about to be strung up.
Cragmyre, myself and Qantaga - all were in on one vote when the nth vote went through.

The 2 vote crowd is where I would be looking.  If someone has information, they need to start sharing before the village becomes wolf food, so we can narrow the suspect list.  I understand ravenvii does not suspect rickfc at all.  A wolf pretending he knows something?  If he comes out now and claims Seer, I'd bet he is faking it.

- Once a majority is reached on a lynch vote, the vote is closed.

I tried to slow this down, but once again, the wolves piled on at the end.

All you are going to get by lynching me is another dead villager.

Everyone says this. 

[withdraw theohall]

Screw it, if I'm going to go out I'm going to go out on my own terms.
withdraw theohall
lynch CeeKay

My threat matrix:

theohall
envy24
???

Why?  the big O keeps on going on about noise, puts up a list of posting percentages, and then ignores the second highest to go after the third. That makes me believe that him and envy are in kahoots, but I'm not sure of a third.

* CeeKay places his head in the noose

When you pull that lever and find out that I'm human you now know who to look at.  If you don't figure it out then at least I won't end up as wolf sushi like the rest of you.  Just remember, wolves don't eat each other at night.

Once again, not being accurate about the percentage thing.  There were 3 folks talking the most in the 52 posts between Day Two morning and the lynch of Newcastle.  Newcastle was one of them and died.  That leaves two folks - you and envy24.  The two of you - both of whom I am accusing of being wolves, just you first - led the charge which resulted in Newcastle's quick lynch. 

I have withdrawn my accusation for now, because I do not want a repeat of yesterday, even if you want to off yourself.  Do you hate the village, or what?  If you are a villager, why help the wolves?

Let's see if lynching envy24 can gain any traction. 

I thought the Berzerker's last stand was random?

That is correct. 

Berserker Werewolf: When lynched will randomly kill one villager (determined by random.org).

[withdraw CeeKay]

withdraw CeeKay

Will post more in a minute.  Don't want the wolves piling on as rapidly as they did yesterday.

I see few posts and an ezmate that he was going to be out of town as an excuse "of the day" for Wednesday and that he'd be back that night.  He's still not throwing much out, and 'd like to hear from him.  Obviously there's not a train forming on him, so it's not like an immediate concern.

What CeeKay is probably referring to is what ravenvii wrote.  Here... let me quote it for you...

rhetts2 is completely off my suspicion list. Jus' sayin'.

So unless you are the third wolf (CeeKay and envy24 are the other two), you might want to accuse someone else.

[theohall]

Bulletpig's top three:
ravenvii, newcastle, theohall

almost forgot this, Bulletpigs top 3.  One is dead while ravenii made an important post yesterday that is enough to give him a stay from my vote for now.  that leaves one name who I could see wnting BP dead since he was the only one who suspected him on a threat matrix: theohall.

Do you recall his reasoning for placing me there on his threat matrix?  It was pretty lame.

Why aren't you interacting with envy24 as much today?  Trying to make us forget he is your pack-mate by not talking to him or something?

sorry theohall, but you're not even worth my time in this anymore.

Ok.... guess you are too busy writing PMs to your beastly brothers trying to figure out a strategy to stay alive, instead of actually looking up the reasons behind someone's threat matrix.

The Vikings defense essentially played the same game vs the Saints as in the NFC Championship game.

Minnesota has a very good defense and no one is going to look explosive against them.  Their issue - will the offense produce enough to win games when their defense limits opponents like they did last night.

Saints last night - 308 total yards
Saints in NFC Championship game - 257 total yards

The reason for the disparity in scoring when comparing the two games: 1) Saints didn't get 5 turnovers.  2) Favre is not even close to the level he was playing last season and it shows 3) Chester Taylor being gone.  Adrian Peterson's backup is awful, so when he leaves the game, defenses don't have to stack the box and can focus on stopping the pass.

[theohall]

Bulletpig's top three:
ravenvii, newcastle, theohall

almost forgot this, Bulletpigs top 3.  One is dead while ravenii made an important post yesterday that is enough to give him a stay from my vote for now.  that leaves one name who I could see wnting BP dead since he was the only one who suspected him on a threat matrix: theohall.

Do you recall his reasoning for placing me there on his threat matrix?  It was pretty lame.

Why aren't you interacting with envy24 as much today?  Trying to make us forget he is your pack-mate by not talking to him or something?

no work today theo?

Fridays off 3 weeks of every 4.  10 hour work days M-Th but it's more like 12 hour days, because I am a friggin' boss and there are two shifts.  Have to stay past turnover time every day.

Oh, forgot the

Isn't this fun?  It would probably be more fun if our fellow villagers would actually hunt wolves. 

[CeeKay]

CeeKay... do you really want me to go back and post how much noise?  The list you quoted was solely from the End of Night One post and you were the 3rd most vocal person.  Overall, You are by far the most vocal.  Prior to newcastle's mea culpa you did not know he was trying to get himself lynched, so that argument does not hold water for me.  What kind of wolf tries to get lynched???  Yet you blindly went along with it and you were one of the two, the other being your lupine partner envy24, leading the charge in getting him lynched.  Why so fast, fur-ball?

CeeKay needs a hemp necklace.

FYI - can you tell me which villager is the Seer?  I think I know in spite of your noise.  Hopefully, he will get a chance to speak more, unlike yesterday when the bloodthirsty wolves led us to a pointless lynch.

I will hold off on my lynch vote for now...However fridays are my busiest day of the week at work. I will check in periodically.

Perfect... maybe the village will lynch envy24 in a 4 hour window while he is working.   

[lynch CeeKay]

I would like to hear which player ravenvii no longer suspects or whom he suspects now.

Until then...

lynch CeeKay

Really hated the quick lynch yesterday which he seriously helped instigate.  So what if someone is changing avatars every 30 seconds.  That does not make someone a wolf.  And the "noise" CeeKay created made me miss what was probably an important post by someone else.

Trivia ends at 8.  So I get both.

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Headed out for trivia night, so if the Wolves ever get their crap together and turn in the their orders, might not be around when Day Three starts.  Let's see if the village can set a new record and lynch someone before the Night orders have even been processed.  

Heck, if they take me out, the villagers are still coming after you.  I do not see how you are going to avoid that one.

A bad guy hunter to be precise.

Of course now w know when the best time to lynch theohall is 

I'M KIDDING!

Unless he is found out to be a wolf.

  No worries.  We all know you are the toothy one.  We will find out tomorrow, since wolves don't kill each other at night.

I am excited.  Can't wait to see how Sam Bradford looks against the Cardinals and if the Rams meaningless preseason stuff can carry over into the regular season.  Dominant time of possession in the supposed Game 3 "dress rehearsal" for the season was a stunning thing to see from the Rams.  True, the Rams defense will still probably suck and they will probably wind up 4-12 or something.  But the future with Bradford at QB looks very bright. 

And to anyone thinking Bradford's shoulder is an issue - he took a hit in his first game where a defender drove him into the ground on the bad shoulder.  He bounced right up and has looked outstanding most of the preseason.  No injury worries for now.

Wow.
       
No one can ever accuse this village of being indecisive.
   
I checked in at lunch today (about 4 hours ago). There was one vote on CeeKay, one on theohall, and one on newcastle. I go into a meeting in beautiful, downtown Millen, GA and come out to find newcastle has been lynched.   
   
I've got a couple of pages of reading to do to catch up.
     
In my last game (the one I hosted), it took 10 days to get 2 lynches. This game, we've lynched 2 in less than 24 hours.
   
Speed Chess, baby.
   
It's definitely exciting, but we better get a wolf on the next lynch or we'll be in trouble.

We'd also better hope we haven't offed any of our specials and the wolves don't hit one tonight.

How did we not discuss and interact?  I don't see that we are just throwing this game to the Wolves.  Hell, newcastle got lynched on purpose, what were we suppose to do just ignore him?  Then how bad would it look if he was a wolf and completely played us.

Did the entire village get to interact or only the folks who post in the day-time?  I need to go re-read today's posts but most of them are CeeKay, you, and newcastle, with a few from envy24, and very little from everyone else. 

Someone volunteering to get lynched is not trying to help the village and, in most cases, is not going to be a wolf.  Were he a wolf and had to leave the game for "meta" reasons, the other wolves would have him play the silent type and pm him if they needed him to post something.  I know, this was unknown to everyone before he received the final vote, but it would have been nice to actually have the chance to comment on a potential lynching.

A recent game on OO featured something like this where no one listened to the guy who kept saying - slow down.  I was one of the non-listeners.  The wolves won.

he got lynched, so at least 8 people were active today.  that's the one catch with these games, they're time intensive so don't feel too put out if something happens and you're not able to participate.

Not put out CeeKay... I just don't want to lose to the wolves, because the rest of you are in a hurry to lynch someone.  I know, my posts sound like I am put out - and I know these are time intensive.  Have been playing on OO for awhile now.  This just seemed like a very hurried vote and it is odd for a vote to happen this quickly when there is next to nothing to go on.  Later - when someone has hard info - yeah, it is expected to go more quickly.

[N-1]

Posts by member after Night One up to and including final vote on Newcastle

1. rshetts2 (1)
2. rickfc (3)
3. Moliere (4)
4. Qantaga (2)
5. Isgrimnur (2)
6. Bulletpig (4)
7. Soulchilde - lynched villager
8. envy24 (9)
9. Cragmyre (3)
10. CeeKay (8 posts)
11. theohall (0)
12. newcastle (15)
13. ravenvii (1)

Only 3 posts between the N-1 vote and the lynch vote

52 posts total.  % of conversation by poster
29% the victim - Newcastle.
17% envy 24
15% CeeKay

Note - this is 61% of the conversation in a village of 12 people

This is not the village discussing what should happen.  This is 3 villagers dominating the conversation while the rest of us attempt to discuss things when able.  It only took 52 total posts to get someone lynched?  And it is only Day Two?  Why the hurry?

Thus the reason for my suspect list being the lynchers.

Correcting CeeKay's post number to the smilie thing.