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1  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Does anybody really think these bailouts will work?... on: February 05, 2009, 12:01:17 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on February 04, 2009, 04:30:20 AM

Quote from: the Nightbreeze on February 04, 2009, 03:28:50 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on February 04, 2009, 01:43:55 AM

I am still trying to figure out what most of this list has anything at all to do with the proper role of federal government spending.   All seems like state issues to me.

And which states have funding right now?   If you want to programs, you need the tax money to come from somewhere.  46 states I believe are running a deficit.

And i's very easy to say I don't need that program, so it can go.  But someone else likely needs it.

You can't cut spending without cutting programs.   So If you want the same programs, and we are bringing in LESS tax revenue, then you need more revenue.  How many Elected officials do you expect have the nerve to say we that need higher taxes, state level, local, or federal?  The state in that case has one road, ask Uncle Sam for Federal dollars.

We citizens want everything, but want to pay for nothing.  And it won't work anymore.


I have zero problems with cutting the vast majority of what the feds currently waste money on.   To be completely honest our tax burden is completely screwed up in the us.   States should be collecting more then the feds do and doing the vast majority of what the federal government does at a state by state level.

That is a great plan to concentrate populations in "have states" and initiate exoduses from "Have Not States". 

If your state won't fund the services you need, then you'll move to a state that does.

If you think urban congestion is bad now, wait until you have even greater populations.

In short, your ideals are short sighted, even if you think mine reach too far.
2  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Does anybody really think these bailouts will work?... on: February 04, 2009, 03:28:50 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on February 04, 2009, 01:43:55 AM

I am still trying to figure out what most of this list has anything at all to do with the proper role of federal government spending.   All seems like state issues to me.

And which states have funding right now?   If you want to programs, you need the tax money to come from somewhere.  46 states I believe are running a deficit.

And i's very easy to say I don't need that program, so it can go.  But someone else likely needs it.

You can't cut spending without cutting programs.   So If you want the same programs, and we are bringing in LESS tax revenue, then you need more revenue.  How many Elected officials do you expect have the nerve to say we that need higher taxes, state level, local, or federal?  The state in that case has one road, ask Uncle Sam for Federal dollars.

We citizens want everything, but want to pay for nothing.  And it won't work anymore.
3  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Super Bowl XLIII on: February 04, 2009, 03:19:52 AM

Quote from: naednek on February 04, 2009, 03:11:19 AM

Quote from: msteelers on February 04, 2009, 02:23:28 AM

I don't know if it is best ever, but it is damn close. The game could have gotten out of hand early in the first half, but Arizona battles back and makes it 10-7. Then a batted ball from Big Ben is picked off, and the Cards march down to the 1 yard line. Just when it looks like they are going to go into halftime with the game either tied or, god forbid, the Cards actually winning 14-10, Defensive Player of the Year James Harrison makes the interception, and bumbles all the way down the sideline dodging would be tacklers to score a TD as the half ends. Instead of 14-10 and an upset in the making, it's now 17-7 at halftime. In the third quarter, the Steelers get two first downs inside the Cardinal 5 yard line, and the Card defense stops them cold both times, nearly coming up with an interception. So they head into the fourth quarter with the Steelers lead now 20-7 and it looks like the game is over. But Warner and Fitz finally start making things happen, and they march down the field on the #1 defense in the league and score like it's nothing. Then the Cards down the punt on the 1-yard line, and get a SAFETY to make it 20-16. THEN Fitz breaks his huge TD run and the Cards actually have the lead 23-20 with just 2:36 left to go. The Steelers get the ball and immediately are called for holding, and are backed up to the 12 yard line. But they march down the field and score on one of the greatest catches in Super Bowl history, leaving just over :30 seconds on the clock for Warner to make something happen. When he gets to about midfield, the #1 defense steps up and forces a fumble to end the game.

What more could you ask for in a Super Bowl? Huge defensive plays, goal line stands, two of the greatest TD catches in Super Bowl history, the longest play ever in a Super Bowl, lead changes late in the fourth, a 2:00 drill to win the game...come on!

sorry, you're a tad bit bias Tongue

One possibility.  Another one is the bias in the scenario can be found elsewhere.  Yet another possibility is that you may be dead inside.

I'd say another possibility is that you don't know a football from a watermellon, but anyone with an avatar of my fellow high school alumni Joe has to be aware of the shape of the ball.
4  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Does anybody really think these bailouts will work?... on: February 04, 2009, 01:11:54 AM
There's a good portion of that list which I don't find wasteful at all, but not very interested in listing things point by point.

A lot of them have to do with if the projects cited were funded, then the bodies receiving funding could use the funds they usually generate on other, higher priority operating costs as revenues drop across the whole economy.  A  good many of them also look like they would create jobs.  And Those things which address public health and natural disasters are long term savings on your next medical bill or homeowner's insurance and the like where costs get passed on to consumers ultimately.

One specific Spending I am willing to address:  on higher education and public computer labs, when we have so many trasitioning between employments, the spending can only be wise.  The resources are looking down both barrels of a shotgun of unemployed workers needing a place to retrain and gain new skillsets.  They can't do their homework/coursework on a slate with a lump of coal.  And the community colleges are where the infrastructure is designed to funnel people in these circumstances.  they may have some facilities, but I doubt they have enough to meet projected capacity.  and $200 Million  for the whole nation's community colleges... I doubt it would be enough.
5  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Super Bowl XLIII on: February 04, 2009, 12:55:01 AM
I would concede that it was not the absolute best Super Bowl.  But I would not conceded that "It was Not Even Close."  The losing QB puts in a 400+ yard performance, and the winning team pulls of one of the most unlikely series of completed passes in recent memory to drive 70 yards (80 yards considering a penalty) by keeping busted plays alive.

However, I would think one needs to wiki up before one even puts XLII as the best one.  I thought it was better for the upset, but that could sound like youthful lack of familiarity.  There's been 43 of these, after all.
6  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Super Bowl XLIII on: February 02, 2009, 02:49:27 PM

Quote from: BEEFHAMMA on February 02, 2009, 01:31:09 PM

wow...what a game. Roethlesberger (sp?) and Holmes hooked for one of the most memorable pass plays in history.

Gromit, I really feel for you man.

Man I hate the Steelers (jealous). They've won 6, how many have they been to?

They've made it to 7 Superbowls, and have now won 6.

I think Blackadar has the right of the officiating.  Not great, and hit both teams.   This league needs full-time refs.  And perhaps a larger officiating crew.  For every Cardinals hopeful bemoaning the final Warner Play, I bet we can run the tape back and see Wayne Gandy mugging James Harrison even more than the three calls he drew.
7  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Super Bowl XLIII on: February 02, 2009, 03:13:32 AM
6 Baby! 6!

Well played, Gromit!  Hold your Chin up!

8  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Digital reading - Kindles vs Sony Readers vs Laptops on: February 01, 2009, 09:56:32 PM
Very Helpful.  I am satisfied, but of course if anyone has more to add, feel free.  Thanks for saving me legwork.
9  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Digital reading - Kindles vs Sony Readers vs Laptops on: January 31, 2009, 02:52:16 AM
Good work folks! Thanks for the help so far.

Now, say that I don't mind the disadvantages of reading E-books on a laptop instead.  Would the availability of E-book points of sale be a disadvantage?  Is there exclusivity? 
10  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Digital reading - Kindles vs Sony Readers vs Laptops on: January 31, 2009, 01:13:21 AM
Describe the functionality, if you would be so kind, Turtle.   What besides these asthetic appearances and lower power consumption do the readers do that a laptop cannot?  I'm trying to learn this relatively fast, and reading the product pages is a bit too steep jargon-wise for me. I'm just glazing over.

11  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Digital reading - Kindles vs Sony Readers vs Laptops on: January 31, 2009, 12:54:34 AM
I haven't done any research at all, other than to know that these would be one's options when it comes to digital reading.

With Netbooks going for about as much as Sony Readers and Kindles, Why are people not going with the larger screen  and multi-functional  appeal of Netbook Laptops?  Is it portability?  Is it media availability/exclusivity?  What are the benefits of these readers that I am missing at first glance?
12  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: FS: Lenovo Ideapad S10 on: January 27, 2009, 08:07:59 PM
FYI - I googled for specs, and the manufacturer's site has it for free shipping and ~$350.  You may have missed that.

Good luck, I was only window shopping
13  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Super Bowl XLIII on: January 27, 2009, 04:10:45 PM

Quote from: BEEFHAMMA on January 27, 2009, 01:46:49 PM

Like the Eagles, the Steelers like to bring the heat

Unlike the Eagles, the Steelers bring the heat with 4-5 players instead of 6 to 8 and nobody has run successfully on the Steelers
14  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Super Bowl XLIII on: January 19, 2009, 04:06:07 AM

Quote from: gellar on January 19, 2009, 03:40:18 AM

Matt Leinart, Superbowl MVP.

gellar


If MVP stands for most violated pants, perhaps so.  If he gets in the game, those shorts ought to fill quick.
15  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Playoffs - AFC/NFC Championship Games on: January 19, 2009, 03:27:10 AM

Quote from: Devil on January 19, 2009, 03:06:10 AM

Ravens had 17 yards of offense in the 1st quarter, 110 after 3.

I like defense just as much as the next guy, but that is just awful.

Ravens held the Steelers in check, but at least they moved the ball a bit.


And what the hell should the defense do?   Backpedal to keep the game interesting to one grump on an internet forum?

16  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Wanted: Dominion (board game / card game) on: January 11, 2009, 02:26:18 AM
You may wish to check out ThoughtHammer.Com or some other online retailers advertised at BoardGameGeek.Com

You Might also scratch you itch for Dominion through Online Play with downloading the Java Client from http://www.brettspielwelt.de/?nation=en which has Dominion and loads of other European boardgames, all for free.
17  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Garage Leak Any Ideas to Solve on: January 07, 2009, 11:45:48 PM
I don't know that lead is a good metal for flashing.  I haven't seen it installed in PA in 30 years, though I've pulled enough of it out.

you are looking for two things with flashing -  a long downslope ON TOP of the top layer of roofing.  Like 10-12 inches out from the side of the house.  This could also be doubly sealed with Silicone or Asphalt caulking -- a good bead uninterrupted on the underside length of the flashing, and over each fastener/nail.  A dollop about the diameter of a 50 cent piece

Second, the flashing from the bend where the flashing transitions from roof to up the wall needs to be under any vinyl or wood siding, and sealed around its outer perimeter.  IT should likewise be about 10 inches up the wall behind the sheathing.  On a brick or stucco installation, you could grind a groove in the mortar or stucco, and bend a 90 degree lip about 1/4 an inch  into the  mortar .  You need to nail into mortar joints, as bricks will be too hard.  Some use a large head galvanized roofing nail poundeid in on top of the lip, not actually through the flashing material.  then you caulk the bejeezus around the perimeter.
 
the  flashing is hopefully aluminum.  Copper is expensive and pretty, but unnecessary.  Hopefully the flashing is in a continuous length, or at the least in lengths over 2 feet with 3 inches of heavily caulked overlay, both between and on top. 

Because of the difficulty of bending any respectable length of aluminum sheetstock or coil-stock, most people hire a contractor with a 6-8 feet Metal fabricating "break".   I have one, but I doubt you're close enough for me to be helpful.

if the wall of the house also ends before the flashing covers the length of the garage roof, the flashing must be installed under the roof surface of that part of the house.  the corner of the wall must also be flashed well.  I'll describe corner flashing if you need it later.
18  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Lawsuit To Remove God From Inauguration Ceremony on: January 06, 2009, 02:44:55 AM
There is no Christianity in the Old Testament.

You are valuing the Old Testament with what you come to learn in the New Testament.
19  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Lawsuit To Remove God From Inauguration Ceremony on: January 02, 2009, 04:02:25 PM
You may want to ammend your premise, Canuck.  One would not have to be an atheist to put no extra value in making his or her oath to "God" as opposed to just giving their oath.  Plenty of belief systems exsists sans "God".  Bhuddist, etc.
20  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. Why Couldn't the Mumbai Attacks Happen in AnyCity USA/EU? on: December 26, 2008, 10:56:08 PM
For the actors in that attack, perhaps Poverty was not their causation.  They likely did it out of fevor and angst.

For those who create the militant movements that incite people of a certain persuasion, especially by removing young men from post-primary education and indoctrinating them, you'd have a thoroughly harder time getting me to reconsider my words.

You're 10-12 and your family is starving.  Do you keep going to class, or do you take the man up on his offer to pay you for informing, delivering packages, and guard duties?

If in their shoes, their choice does not surprise me.
21  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. Why Couldn't the Mumbai Attacks Happen in AnyCity USA/EU? on: December 22, 2008, 11:22:56 PM
Something that big gets hijacked, jets or attack helicopters will be scrambled when they pull the old Han Solo "Fine  Everything is fine, here... now...How are you?" on radio contact with the harbor master/coast guard.   Ships don't just float into harbors willy-nilly.

And I doubt we import fertilizers .  Seems more like something we would export, and if need be, ship from domestic producers  to domestic consumers via interstate rail.  Port cost on that stuff would be silly
22  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Illinois vs. BoA. Fight! on: December 11, 2008, 08:02:58 PM
Not everything in life is a slippery slope.  Settle down.

And this Business already had a loan with this bank, which was revoked and then restored.  And then a whole other bank stepped in with even more credit.  Every business is a risk.  If you want to black and white every situation, how does any business get any credit anywhere? 

Something good happened here.  One loan to one business from one bank is not toppling everything.  Not every loan from here on out will fall out just like this one.  Until you accept that, I see no point in continuing this with you.
23  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Illinois vs. BoA. Fight! on: December 11, 2008, 03:19:04 PM
One failed bank loan should not topple BoA.   It's not the slippery slope that you want it to be.  It's one loan, not thousands of them.

And the result is several households being better able to participate in the economy.

The more households we can get or keep participating the economy and paying taxes, the less all of our taxes will have to go up, the more jobs will remain to service the households and the produce the goods the residents consume.   The banks will get more deposits, too.  it will come back to them in the grand cycle.

24  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Illinois vs. BoA. Fight! on: December 11, 2008, 03:59:45 AM
And where did you miss that this institution has given the borrower a line of credit in the past? 

If banks ought to be responsible in their lending, they came to it too late in this scenario, and only when it suited them.  I'd rather see the bank hurt than the families here.

This country isn't going to recover from this mess by banks holding back credit tightly from here on out.  Home Loans to people with no proof of income and poor credit histories?  Yeah, that shit banks can knock off immediately.  But revoking a line of credit that impacts a sizable community?  That's cutting the bank's own throat.   

If your next door neighbor is doing well and paying his taxes, just like you are, that's where the impact of society will be felt.  Your schools will be funded, your roads repair and public services will be funded. Your house value will be more stable and higher.  They have money to deposit in your precious banks and pay their mortgages, educational and car loans,  and keep your bank liquid.  They buy goods and servicces to maintain their home and automobiles.

But you're right.  Fuck upwardly mobile and secure families.  What could they possibly offer the economy?
25  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Illinois vs. BoA. Fight! on: December 11, 2008, 01:38:16 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on December 10, 2008, 11:10:43 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X on December 10, 2008, 10:56:46 PM

Hooray for BoA! They did a good thing here...

...under pressure and horrible publicity.

I dont see it as being a good thing, we are in this crisis because of loans being made to bad credit risks, so forcing a bank to keep a line of credit open to a company they see as a bad credit risk is not a good thing.

And the liquidity and consuming power of the families who will now get a severance package is just awful for the state of Illinois and the communities in which these people live, I'm sure. 
26  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Car Czar on: December 09, 2008, 04:27:57 PM
It's just a term to insinuate the person in the position is a person in far-reaching authority of that which they oversee.  I agree it might be insensitive and unfortunate that this is the term they choose, but in this choice of term, the intentions are quickly made clear, as well as the respect expected for the person holding the position.

Car Substitute High School Physics Teacher  would not carry the same weight, after all
27  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: CHUCK IS BACK! Chuck vs. The First Date Spoilers! on: December 04, 2008, 11:33:22 PM
Would whomever invents a time machine kindly make your first order of business to execute the producers of Survivor and American Idol preemptively at a time before they influenced the networks to crap up the airwaves with reality TV?

Thanks a bunch
28  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Religious Hatred........Why? on: December 04, 2008, 02:04:51 AM
The internet that I see worships cats with barely functional literacy and the ability to operate a PC.

Biases sometimes depend on what is observed, and sometimes on the observer.

That said, taking a half-baked, stab in the dark guess, perhaps some people hate the way some participants of some systems of belief behave to other people more than the tenets of the system of belief being discussed.  Also, Christianity gets brought up a great deal by both those who adhere and those who do not, and with great volume of comments one finds more opportunity for some of those comments to be unflattering about the subject.  Additionally. People who don't care about a subject will not bother to add anything to a discussion on that subject. Only the people who are passionate for it, or those with an beef with it have any motivation to put anything in to the pot.  So it would be folly to assume if one reads a majority of comments in a disparaging light, the majority of people in the population or even in a thread are also "down on Christianity" or what have you depending on the subject.  It just means more comments came down on one side rather than another because of the people who were moved to participate trended so, temporarily.
29  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. Why Couldn't the Mumbai Attacks Happen in AnyCity USA/EU? on: December 03, 2008, 03:51:20 PM

Quote from: cheeba on December 03, 2008, 05:19:43 AM

As I've said and the liberal boys here love to quote,

You do know that you would get a lot less static if you would leave that garbage out of your statements and let your ideas stand or fall on their own merit, right?

Anyone pretending to be a victim is rather unbecoming.  At the very least the reactions would be less personal.  What do you gain by behaving so?
30  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Atari to revisit Baldur's Gate on: December 03, 2008, 03:23:03 AM
Please don't let Atari rush the developer and screw it up
Please don't let Atari rush the developer and screw it up
Please don't let Atari rush the developer and screw it up
31  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. If the US Hadn't Invaded Iraq... on: December 03, 2008, 03:10:06 AM
A Sensitivity to military occupation is not the same thing as being inherently violent.   And repeating a false premise will not make it true no mater how long that you persist.

Over and out. nothing happening here worth watching anymore.
32  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. If the US Hadn't Invaded Iraq... on: December 02, 2008, 08:15:59 PM

Quote from: Scuzz on December 02, 2008, 06:52:11 PM

I am sure there are better examples....go find them for me....you must have the time..

If you are sure,  why are you not willing to do your own homework? 

Why is it always someone else's job around here?
33  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. If the US Hadn't Invaded Iraq... on: December 01, 2008, 09:09:45 PM

Quote from: cheeba on December 01, 2008, 08:21:11 PM

I'd be happy to change my opinion that violence is a part of middle eastern culture if someone were to post a convincing argument.

If you have not yet listened to people who would tell you there are entire countries, faith groups, and towns in the middle east that are not populated with militants and abhor violence as much as any Quaker might,  I say with all due respect that if in your shoes I wouldn't wait for people to invest their time and effort on this goal to your benefit.
34  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. If the US Hadn't Invaded Iraq... on: December 01, 2008, 01:35:15 AM

Quote from: cheeba on December 01, 2008, 12:58:50 AM

Quote from: the Nightbreeze on December 01, 2008, 12:53:20 AM

I did.  look again.  Or don't for all that it matters, since Opinions are not facts.
No, they are not facts, but there are opinions substantiated by better reasoning and evidence. When a professor of anthropology writes a book on the subject and argues that violence is a part of middle eastern culture, that carries more weight than someone arguing, "nuh uh, not everyone," which doesn't even really address the issue at all.

The issue is that you are stereotyping.  How does pointing it out not address the issue of you stereotyping?

I mean if you are determined to ignore facts, I suppose anyone can reach any conclusion.  If you mean to ignore it, that's your problem.  It is not on me to prove anything here.  IT's not my job to prove your flawed premise
35  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. If the US Hadn't Invaded Iraq... on: December 01, 2008, 12:53:20 AM

Quote from: cheeba on November 30, 2008, 11:24:07 PM

Whether or not someone living under tyranny has a responsibility to oppose it/run is just an opinion, and to each his own. But none of y'all are gonna take on Professor Salzman's opinion that violence is part of middle eastern culture, huh?

I did.  look again.  Or don't for all that it matters, since Opinions are not facts.

36  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Week 13 on: December 01, 2008, 12:52:06 AM

Quote from: Devil on November 25, 2008, 01:38:00 PM

Trying to find a home for Matt Cassel next year...

I'm doubting that it will be in the AFC North.  Glad we finally put a hard lick on your boys.
37  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Week 13 on: December 01, 2008, 12:47:49 AM

Quote from: Thin_J on December 01, 2008, 12:40:16 AM

Way to go Cassel. Way to go.

I hate the Steelers.

The way your Bengals laid down against the Ravens, I applaud you for sitting through a second NFL game today.  That your Television still functions is a testament to your restraint.
38  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. If the US Hadn't Invaded Iraq... on: November 30, 2008, 07:42:20 PM

Quote from: cheeba on November 30, 2008, 07:11:30 PM

Quote from: the Nightbreeze on November 30, 2008, 03:08:31 PM

I'll start with an obvious fact.  Not everyone in the Middle East is a Radical Islamist, or Muslim, or Arab, or Jew, or Christian.  On that alone your touted professor's stereotypes and those of your own fail.
You're right, it is an obvious fact. It's also completely meaningless. Because we are arguing that tribal/religious violence is part of middle eastern culture does not mean we are arguing that every single man, woman and child partakes in it. I'd say hot dogs and baseball are part of American culture, but that doesn't mean there aren't some vegetarians who hate baseball out there.

And not every Middle eastern resident is strapping a bomb to their chest or setting up roadside bombs and going after the infidels.  You're willing to paint everyone in the Middle East for a minority of imbalanced people?    Your example is closer to calling your imagined vegetarians the norm of our American culture.
39  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. If the US Hadn't Invaded Iraq... on: November 30, 2008, 03:08:31 PM
Evidence, Cheeba?

I'll start with an obvious fact.  Not everyone in the Middle East is a Radical Islamist, or Muslim, or Arab, or Jew, or Christian.  On that alone your touted professor's stereotypes and those of your own fail.

40  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: So. If the US Hadn't Invaded Iraq... on: November 30, 2008, 04:43:58 AM
Cheeba. your opinions, which stereotype Middle Easten culture unflatteringly, are not facts.

There's imbalanced people who do awful things in every system of belief and region.

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