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3881  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 22, 2008, 09:35:52 PM

Quote from: DOSHIGH on September 22, 2008, 09:13:27 PM

even at night some PQ's are just empty or not enough people to complete the 2nd or 3rd stage. 

This is always going to be the general case due to the sheer number of available PQs.  Often there are only people running "popular" PQs, i.e. the closest ones as mentioned, or not at all.  In all honesty, though, and trying not to sound bitchy about it, but this is really a population/personality issue, and hopefully over time the population will start to turn it around.  I saw this in beta a lot as well, lots and lots of empty spots, and then bursts of people all congregating in one spot.  

The truth is all it takes is a tiny bit of initiative, maybe 2 or 3 people to start a group, open it up, maybe advertise in the live channel "starting Ch. X PQs /join Rittchard" and boom, there's a PQ warband running all the different PQs in an area.  I've seen very little of that on our server thus far.  It is an amazing social phenomena in these games just how reluctant the majority of the population is to do something simple like start a group up and then ask if anyone wants to join.  This works whether with guildmates or not, they've made it so easy with the open group system.  In a large guild like ours, it should be pretty easy to at least get the ball going.  My guess is you'll be pleasantly surprised how many people are just hanging around waiting for someone else to start a group they can join.
3882  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Twilight...vampire flick on: September 18, 2008, 11:15:22 PM
Just read the first book recently and was underwhelmed.  It was very "readable" in a Harry Potter-ish sort of way.  I found I kept wanting to read it to the end, so that's the good news.  The bad news was it didn't seem like anything ever really happened and even the conclusion lacked significant oomph.  I felt like the whole book I was waiting for something exciting to happen, some sort of payoff, but I didn't really get it.  Maybe book 2 picks it up better.  I suppose a movie version may work better, as much of the book can easily be cut out and/or reduced to a quick scene or 2.

I realize this was targetted at a younger audience, but I still couldn't help comparing it to the Anita Blake series, which takes a fairly similar concept (forbidden love story between vampire and human, eventual love triangle with werewolf) but makes it a thousand times more exciting.  I don't mind that it skewed young and girlishly romantic, but I was surprised there wasn't just .... more.  More action, more romance, more anything!
3883  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Sacred 2 Gone Gold on: September 18, 2008, 05:00:33 PM

Anyone besides me excited?
3884  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Harkonis and company -- where are you? on: September 17, 2008, 09:16:47 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on September 17, 2008, 08:28:35 PM

Yeah, we were well over 100 members as of last night. Granted some of them were alts, but that's still pretty damn impressive for a game that hasn't even officially launched yet!

Just counted, there's over 100 members not including alts already  icon_eek
3885  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Age of Conan producer/game director quits Funcom on: September 17, 2008, 09:15:29 PM

Quote from: Destructor on September 17, 2008, 03:06:59 PM

Could it be a 'forced retirement' due to how poorly (at least from all that I've read anyway) Conan is doing?

Nah, he just quit so he could play Warhammer Online full time.  I think he might be in our guild now, someone mentioned they were taking a 6 month "vacation" last night.   slywink
3886  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: September 13, 2008, 10:56:13 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on September 13, 2008, 10:39:41 PM

Is there no insta travel at all from city to city? Im tired of walking and im just in the 2nd zone.

No insta travel between most of the sub-zones.  This was one of my early complaints that I sent often in beta.  The good news is you can get your mount at R20 which makes the running more bearable.  The bad news is there's a portion of the game (around 15-20 I guess) where you do seem to end up running around a lot if you are playing mostly PvE.  Now PvP/RvR is another story, since you can fly to most warcamps and the scenarios are of course insta-teleport.
3887  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Wacky Canadian question on: September 12, 2008, 11:17:36 PM
Cross-posted from Wanderers forum:

On a recent trip to Chili's, the receipt had another one of those "fill the survey out" things.  My friend actually filled it out for once and noticed something rather bizarre in the fine print.  I thought he had made this up but it was on there:

Random drawings for the Daily Prizes will be held at the office of the Sponsor in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada at 2PM ET (GMT -5 hours) on the tenth (10th) business day following the last day of each month during the Sweepstakes Entry Period.  If a potential winner is a Canadian resident, such person must correctly answer a mathematical skill-testing question prior to awarding of prize.  If a selected entrant chooses not to accept the prize, or is otherwise disqualified from winning the prize, the prize will be deemed to be forfeited and no substitution or other compensation will be awarded and no alternate winner will be selected."

"The selected entrant(s) will be contacted by telephone or email, and must sign and return (within 14 days of receipt) a declaration and release of liability. If the selected entrant does not correctly answer the skill-testing question (if a Canadian resident), does not comply with the Sweepstakes Rules or cannot be contacted by telephone or email within 7 days of the draw, that entrant will be disqualified and no alternate winner will be selected. The prize will be sent to the winner within 4-6 weeks of receipt of the declaration and release of liability. All taxes on prize are the responsibility of the winner.

WTH is up with that?  Canadians have to answer some math question to win a prize?  I have absolutely no idea what to make of this!!!  Please explain.
3888  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Demigod Beta on: September 12, 2008, 09:50:55 PM
Apparently if you pre-order Demigod from Stardock, you automatically get to try out the beta.

For those that never heard of the game, it's an RTS/RPG hybrid "inspired" by the DotA mod of Warcraft 3.
3889  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: September 12, 2008, 06:06:49 PM
I like this statement on servers:

"Please Note: We will provide the list of servers that will be available on Sunday morning for the CE Head Start on Saturday, September 13th"
3890  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: iPhone games? on: September 12, 2008, 05:40:15 PM

Quote from: jblank on September 12, 2008, 05:25:19 PM

As much as I love my iPod Touch (which is an iPhone sans phone) I think I would rather play games on my DS. Besides, the battery life on the iPhone/Touch is probably 1/4 what it is on the DS, especially if you use wi-fi. Also, aren't the controls going to be a serious problem considering the iPhone/iTouch only has 1 button?

So far it hasn't been an issue.  Developers are coming up with innovative ways to use the touch screen and create "on the fly" type of interfaces, and really the whole thing is in its infancy.  For instance in Asphalt 4 you simply touch the screen in the direction you want to turn.  Monkey Ball uses the accelerometer for movement.  In Vay you touch the spot you want your character to move to, and menus are all touch/pop-up.  Buttons can be placed on the screen when they are needed, actually there is less limitation in some sense; it's all about what a developer can come up with using the tools and their imagination. 

All that said, I've seen prototype images of an overlay type of hardware interface to the iPhone/Touch that would make it much more in line with a portable console (including D-pad and physical buttons).

Here it is:

Also best site I've found for iPhone games in general so far:
3891  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: September 11, 2008, 10:34:24 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on September 11, 2008, 08:58:37 PM

I suggest Monolith for Order and Saphery for Dest.  The sooner we can commit (assuming the servers are actually available at launch) the better chance of getting all the forums on board.

They've already stated they will be rolling servers out in batches, so server choice will likely be a game time decision on Sunday - unless of course CE headstart players are all willing to wait until some unknown time when the "chosen" server name appears.

From the list announcement:

"These will begin going live Sunday, September 14th with the Collector’s Edition Head Start and will continue to roll out leading up to Launch on September 18th."
3892  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / iPhone games? on: September 11, 2008, 06:21:02 PM
I know there was talk about iPhone/iPod Touch game reviews, etc. - where does iPhone/Touch game discussion belong?

Anyway, with Steve Jobs claiming it's the best mobile gaming platform, I suspect there will be more (and better) games coming out.  Current releases like Spore Origins and Asphalt 4 definitely deserve some mention, and the upcoming version of Force Unleashed looks pretty sweet.
3893  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer. Open RVR vs. Core rule servers. Lets talk about it. on: September 11, 2008, 06:12:41 PM
Here's the thing for me personally.  While my guess is most people think of me as  a "carebear," the fact is I would gladly play an FFA PvP game that was designed as an FFA PvP game.  I loved the design decisions in Shadowbane, which was designed from the ground up as FFA.  I'm hoping Darkfall will continue in this tradition.

Regarding WAR, for better or worse, the game was designed and tested completely around the Core ruleset.  Notice how they are only now, one week from release, testing and tweaking different variants on the Open ruleset.  Frankly to me that's just a lazy approach to appease certain audiences - not good game design.  I know some people liked the FFA in AoC, WoW, etc., that's fine, but not for me.  I like to see some thought put into it.
3894  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Getting a new LCD HDTV, Best Upscaling DVD Player and other advice? on: September 09, 2008, 10:54:52 PM

Quote from: JSL on September 09, 2008, 10:17:15 PM

So, I have a few more questions. Is there anything that takes advantage of 120 Hz at this point? Also, would I be better off looking at Plasma as well, or is LCD good enough these days? Lastly, I read that the LED Samsung units are coming out fairly soon, would that be better to wait for?

I've heard the advantage of plasma is that the picture looks better/smoother, but this you'd really have to judge for yourself.  The disadvantage is they generally use more power, and from what I've heard have a much higher tendency/probability to require repair (this was straight from a technician's mouth).  I don't know much about LED tech, though I do believe the Macbook Air may be using it (and it looks great), but I'd imagine you would pay a major premium.  Personally, I believe LCD is the best bet right now, and the price points have come down dramatically the last year.  Picture quality on most all of the TVs I've seen just looks amazing, with each one just barely looking better than the other in the store.  Once you get it home, though, this no longer really matters because you aren't comparing it to 20 other TVs next to it. 

So much of this is "eye of the beholder" type of discussion.  I'm pretty sure, though, that you will be much more "blown away" if you compare a good Blu-Ray transfer to a good up-converted DVD transfer.  Not just picture quality, but sound as well.  Again, it all depends on how discerning you are, but my guess is the majority of people would see (and hear) a distinct difference with the move to BR. 

FWIW, I've hooked up my computer to the Samsung 40" and it looks amazing.  I ran Guild Wars for a bit, then Hellgate London, and both looked gorgeous at fullscreen 1920X1080.

As far as 120Hz, I'd also be curious to find out if anyone knows what the distinct advantage is and what may or may not be taking advantage of it.  Even my super video card only outputs at 60Hz (I think).
3895  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Getting a new LCD HDTV, Best Upscaling DVD Player and other advice? on: September 08, 2008, 11:59:45 PM

Quote from: Laner on September 08, 2008, 08:24:08 PM

Quote from: rittchard on September 08, 2008, 06:38:47 PM

I'm not sure why you think Blu-Ray may not be around - is there something I haven't heard about lately? 
Nothing new, just the feeling that Blu-Ray isn't gaining significant traction - certainly not like DVDs did. 

While it's far too early to say for sure, for example the situation with BR is looking similar to the practically-dead DVD Audio and SACD formats from a few years ago.  Most people didn't have the equipment or ears to notice a big difference - CD quality audio is more than good enough for the vast majority of people.    Similarly, DVD is "good enough" for most, and not worth scrapping their DVD collection for (in their opinion) a marginally better format

The other correlation is the rise of digital distribution; the iTunes store, MP3s, etc. are far more convenient for many people.  Similarly, the ability to order a movie on-demand from NetFlix or their cable/satellite provider trumps running out to Wal-Mart or Blockbuster to buy a disc.

Again, videophiles are going to look at those options and scoff, but Average Joe honestly doesn't care.  Yeah, HDTVs are selling well, but my gut feeling is that it's more an issue of "Hey ma, check out my 65" screen!" than an increase in visual fidelity.

I could very well be wrong - but those are the general arguments put forth when it comes to investing in Blu-Ray.

Definitely very good points, and I agree with all of them - in particular the uncertainty brought on by the rise of digital distribution, as well as the improvement in broadband connections (Fios and cable) into the home. 

That said, in this specific case, I'd have to question the need to get a fairly high end HDTV for someone who isn't in the "videophile" (or close) category, or as you call it "Average Joe".  I mean, we're talking 40" - 1080p - 120Hz, this is pretty top of the line in terms of quality.  But if the highest resolution and performance are not the primary concern, why not pay HALF the price for the TV?  Just for argument's sake, here's a 42" at Walmart:

I've seen the Vizio HDTVs (as well as some Westinghouse and other lower cost brands), and the general quality from a generic point of view is that it looks pretty damn good in spite of being limited to 720p.

Anyway, just playing Devil's advocate here.  I love my new Samsung, I love my old Oppo, but I really really love my PS3 playing BRs :-)

Edit to say: in fact, why not just take one step down on the TV to the one I have and with the amount you save get the PS3?
3896  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: September 08, 2008, 11:46:54 PM

Quote from: SuperHiro on September 08, 2008, 09:05:02 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on September 08, 2008, 12:00:00 PM

Quote from: SuperHiro on September 08, 2008, 11:25:32 AM

Wow, now the wait to download is nearly at 24 hours.

Fuck you Mythic
Fuck you Gamespy
Fuck you EA

/crosses Warhammer off the list.

Are you not able to download a torrent?

the torrents I tried all had download times from 2-4 days.

If they're going to be gigantic PITA's about the beta, then I won't particularly trust them to handle release any better.

I don't think anyone is doing anything on purpose to be a "PITA" - there's just a lot of demand.  If you don't want to deal with the downloads, why not wait until release and install from the disc.  Many of us spent 2-3 days downloading the client multiple times during beta - it's a frickin' huge client and yes the torrents suck(ed).  Now for OB, AFAIK, they allowed downloading many days ago to help alleviate the load (I think YK said 2 weeks?).  That's pretty accomodating if you ask me.
3897  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: September 08, 2008, 11:38:34 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on September 08, 2008, 10:37:42 PM

I am finding a very good mix of classes and the results have varied, although I believe we lost 4 of 6.  I did note that the 2 we did win had a higher ratio of Ironbreakers for our side in the scenarios.  I'm going to guess the two are related somehow.  Ironbreakers are cool.

There's a major synergy in the group dynamic if/when you have a tank or 2 to complement your healer(s).  The tanks have a guard skill that negates/shares a lot (50%?) damage done to the healer is guarding.  This is huge, obviously, since it means the healer will be kept up longer, which in turn means he can help keep the tank (and anyone else around) up longer.  And of course the longer everyone is up, the better.  On top of this, healers get a detaunt debuff that further negates a single opponent's attacks; I believe these stack so the combination means instead of insta-death when a melee comes to beat on you, the healer can pretty much ignore one attacker for an extended period of time.  Again, this is huge, giving him plenty of time to make choices in who to heal or help or even resurrect. 
3898  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Getting a new LCD HDTV, Best Upscaling DVD Player and other advice? on: September 08, 2008, 06:38:47 PM

Quote from: JSL on September 08, 2008, 05:41:53 PM

Thanks for all of the advice guys. The Oppo player might be just what I am looking for. The PS3 is tempting though for the upscaling and Blu, but I'm not sure how long Blu-Ray is going to be around.

As an owner of both the Oppo and PS3, I would still highly recommend the PS3.  It does an excellent job with the upscaling (I recently watched The Bank Job and was shocked at how good it looked), but gives you the Blu-Ray capability which takes everything up another level.  Once you've seen a few good transfers at 1080p, you will be blown away.

I'm not sure why you think Blu-Ray may not be around - is there something I haven't heard about lately?  Of course the price differential is steep, but if you are investing in such a high quality TV (coincidentally I just purchased the lower end Samsung 40" version without 120Hz recently), IMHO you should really be putting the highest quality content to play on it - and right now that's Blu-Ray.  Heck I'd actually recommend getting the TV I did and using the savings to get the PS3.  I'm actually not 100% sold on the need for 120Hz, maybe someone can convince me otherwise.
3899  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Fall TV Season 2008 is here! on: September 08, 2008, 05:57:28 PM

Quote from: Teggy on September 08, 2008, 05:30:47 PM

Did anybody watch True Blood on HBO last night?  I have it TiVoed and haven't watched it yet.  The one review I saw was mixed.

Watched it...  and impressions are definitely mixed.  I'm a big fan of Vampire stuff, and was a big fan of 6FU so you'd think it would be a no-brainer.  But... I'm not sold on the show.  It seemed a bit sporadic in introducing characters, plotlines and it's Vampire concepts.  Anna Paquin as the lead - I like her a lot but not sure she's really good enough to carry a show on her own.  The lead vampire also was not nearly as hot/sexy as I'd like him to be.  A lot of the side characters seemed fun, but they also seemed to just pop in and drop funny one-liners, then move back to the background.  Maybe it's just a case of trying to introduce too much in a single hour premiere, I don't know. 

Anyway, I'll keep watching it at least a few more episodes to see if it impresses me.
3900  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Seinfeld, Gates, churros and shoes. on: September 05, 2008, 08:41:55 PM
Just saw it, have absolutely no idea what to make of it, other than it made me want to bitch slap the both of them.
3901  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Ultra-portable discussion thread on: September 03, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
I'm really interested to see where the whole UMPC development goes.  Personally I've circled around and dove in a couple of times, and it's been an interesting experience.  My earliest foray was mentioned in that PC World article, the HP Omnibook; I still have it sitting in my closet for nostalgia's sake.  At the time (roughly 15 years ago!) I thought it was the coolest thing ever, full keyboard, 3 pounds, "large" screen, instant-on. 

Then a couple years ago I experimented with the Samsung Q1 touch screen unit (also mentioned in the article).  It was really pricey at the time and had no keyboard, so I was using it more as a portable entertainment device.  It's been a while so I don't quite remember what my ultimate take on it was - aside to say it's now also sitting in my closet, not a good sign.

What took the place in my portable gadget whore space?  For the past 8 months it's been the Macbook Air.  Yeah I know it's not really a UMPC, and I know a lot of people hate Apple for whatever reason (generally the prices).  But for my usage, the MBA has been close to perfect.  It serves in a perfect space between the iPhone and my desktop.  It's powerful, fast and full featured enough that I generally do my browsing, financial stuff, and typing/editing on it, along with assorted music/video and gaming.  With just a bit more power the MBA could serve as a full-fledged gaming back up unit (I was actually able to get Hellgate London running on it in Bootcamp/Windows XP mode).  On a recent business trip, I got the full feel of having a 3 pound unit in my backup - or I should say the full non-feel because for the first time the weight of my laptop felt effortless.  Watching others pull out 6-7 pound, 2 inch thick units, I couldn't help but be impressed with the MBA's sleek size/weight/keyboard/power combo.  It's not for everyone, certainly, and price is an issue, but I love it.  Kind of brought me full circle back to a unit much like the Omnibook in size/weight, but so much more powerful it's ridiculous.

So what's next?  I'm still waiting for an "iPad" type of unit from Apple, something about the size of a Kindle, more powerful than an iPhone but less than an MBA (and cheaper) with the touch iPod/Phone capabilities on top of a larger more versatile screen.  I'm actually not sure how this would fit into my current usage situation but I'm pretty sure I would be unable to resist.
3902  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Google Chrome on: September 03, 2008, 05:21:24 PM
Testing/reading this site on it now!  So far, so good...  and I was also able to run Gmail so I'm not sure why I read it wasn't compatible...
3903  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Fall TV Season 2008 is here! on: September 03, 2008, 05:19:31 PM
I'm pretty excited since I'm such a TV whore!

Premieres: Prison Break was a nice way to open the season.  The show looks like it's going all over the place, maybe a more Ocean's 11 type of feel.  As much as I'm enjoying it, I don't think it's going to last another year, we'll see.  I watched half of 90210 last night, it was kinda meh.  Mish mash between all the Fox, CW and WB soaps I've seen, most reminiscent of The O.C. if I had to pick one.  

Surprisingly competitive hour: for me anyway, Monday at 9: Heroes vs. Prison Break.  But I really wanted to watch that new comedy Worst Week.  I really love the guy they picked as the lead, he's the one from those T-Mobile(?) commercials who keeps leaving pathetic messages on his girlfriends' phones.  

Most looking forward to:  Fringe!  J. J. Abrams has a good track record, show sounds X-Files-ish, and I love Joshua Jackson so I have nothing to lose smile

Midseason:  Don't forget Joss Whedon's Dollhouse!!!!

Other miscellany:  Sanctuary on Sci-Fi, Crusoe on NBC, and some cheesy fantasy show I believe will be based on the Goodkind Sword of Truth series.
3904  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: GT Warhammer Casual Guild. Anyone interested? on: September 03, 2008, 05:10:05 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on September 03, 2008, 03:28:50 PM

when it's good enough for some respect then it can have the U, until then it's just a dirty sqig.

Love that CK! 

P.S.  That Asian doctor guy pic you posted looks shockingly like me in RL - well maybe me a few years ago before I gained a lot of extra weight  icon_razz
3905  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Friend is on the new Survivor on: August 29, 2008, 03:46:43 AM
I took a longer glance through the cast list, and I have to say I don't get it.  It looks essentially like 3 older folks (58, 61 and 49) and 15 hot young 20somethings or near 30.  Even the couple I thought looked older or middle aged ended up being in their 20s.  It's like they totally gave up on the age diversity mix (pretty much no late 30s/40s crowd), in which case why even bother with the 3 older people, who will be at an immediate disadvantage if only from a "get along" aspect?
3906  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Friend is on the new Survivor on: August 28, 2008, 08:32:18 PM
Wow, he is gorgeous.  I know who I'm rooting for!  Though the bad news for him is that typically whoever I like gets knocked out early.  Perusing the choices, there does seem to be more "hot guys" than normal - Dan, Matty and Marcus, maybe Charlie.  Maybe this will negate the typical "eliminate the hot guy" scenario.
3907  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Someone hijacked my WoW account...long on: August 26, 2008, 10:55:56 PM

Quote from: Toe on August 26, 2008, 10:19:53 PM

I am still curious how the info is getting to the hackers. Yeah, it could be someone has hacked into Blizzards account management database, but that seems rather brazen especially since they could probably make more money using the credit card info in there rather than the whole gold-selling angle. Do any of you guys that been hacked use your account name and password for other sites, like message boards?

Yeah I was wondering just how much someone could possibly gain from this.  It seems having the credit card numbers you could come up with something more useful.  Maybe this is more indirect so considered less illegal? 

But to answer your question, yes my acct name/pwd was sadly being used in other sites - like message boards.  I guess I am going to have to be more careful from now on.

3908  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: August 26, 2008, 10:13:13 PM
Gone Gold!!!
3909  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Someone hijacked my WoW account...long on: August 26, 2008, 06:43:53 PM
I just found out my account was hacked (?) as well.  A friend of mine saw my toon pop up the other night and asked me if I was playing again.  I haven't played in a year or more I believe.  Apparently someone renewed my account using another credit card and started playing.  I have no idea what he's been up to but I immediately contacted Blizzard.  So far, no response.  Very weird and somewhat bothersome - what do these people hope to gain from this?
3910  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: August 26, 2008, 06:39:17 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on August 26, 2008, 02:28:58 PM

With any beta you have to be able to read between the lines and separate the noise from the truth.

I haven't played Warhammer yet (come on open beta!), but the vibe is definitely very good for a closed beta. What encourages me the most is that the endgame PvP stuff is getting positive buzz. Contrast this to Age of Conan, where the buzz was pretty positive about the game in general, but people were having to make assumptions about how the endgame PvP turned out.

It's not just that the "endgame PvP" is in the game and is being tested that's important from the buzz standpoint.  One of WAR's biggest improvements to the MMO genre is that the PvP/RvR (and to some extent PvE "raid") elements that used to be reserved for "endgame" are available to you from day one, and more importantly, are FUN from day one.  This is in contrast to any other game out there.  It really encourages a new mindset, and that is to stop worrying about rushing to max level to get to the good stuff; the "good stuff" is there for you every minute you are playing the game.

P.S.  I'm not going to comment any more on the skills argument, except to say more often than not, I think people will always see what they choose to see (be it positive or negative, reality or imagination), and leave it at that.
3911  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: August 26, 2008, 04:53:41 AM
Just to make sure I wasn't exaggerating, I designed a R31 Bright Wizard.  Used 23 of 24 hotbar slots, all 4 morale slots and 3 tactics slots.  As TC/skystride emphasized, the big thing is all of these skills are useful under different conditions.

In PvE 1v1, I generally use about 5 or 6 keys (on top of 2 pre-cast buffs).  Hex DoT, Debuff DoT, Exploder, Sear (with heal tactic), combustion exploder and possibly PBAoE nuke.  If things turn awry, I hit my armor buff and run.

For PvE against multiples, this changes to armor buff, AoE nuke for pulling, AoE snare, PBAoE damage, Sear for mini heal.  Targeted AoE (Rain of Fire).  Haven't done much of this yet, still experimenting.

In PvP 1v1 I had some trouble - as TC mentions you have 1 or 2 seconds to react and 20 skills to choose from - but did OK on my first night out.  Snare is very useful, and I combined it with my specced snare+dmg spell.  Also mixed in the Hexes and DoTs.  Armor buff is crucial, the Searing heal is not a lifesaver but a decent refreshed when you are soloing.  In a larger war situation, AoE nukes from afar, debuffs, explosions, more hexxing, all sorts of options open up when you aren't the number one target.  For tight in battles against multiple opponents, I chose a tactic that boosts my damage 25% at close range, combining that with the PBAoE snare and PBAoE damage spam.  I know I'm squishy but I'm gonna take some folks with me if they come at me in a bunch.  Lots of fun and lots of options.

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Not to belabor the issue, but saying you don't like a game's combat or graphics or style or "feel" is all fine with me from a subjective point of view.  I have no problems with those kinds of impressions and comments.  But throwing out blanket, seemingly objective statements with no factual basis, to me, borders on trolling.
3912  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: August 25, 2008, 10:25:24 PM
I don't mind that people have varied opinions on the game or skills or classes, that's to be expected.  But if you are going to throw out broad generalizations or say something specifically like a character has "so few abilities" compared to another game - you should be prepared to back that up with details and/or experience played in the game.  I personally have played over a hundred hours in beta, and I still feel less than qualified to comment about the majority of the classes, and even the couple I am most familiar with I would hesitate to proclaim expert knowledge of. 

When I logged in to the lvl 30 test, I was absolutely overwhelmed and actually felt there were *too many* skills to handle.  I literally filled up 2 hotbars worth of skills (so that's 20+), plus 3 tactics slots and 4 morale slots.  It took me about 15 minutes to throw together a build so I could get started.  Keep in mind proper choice of tactics can be critical to how a build plays, and the Morale abilities are class/build/game changers as well.  And of course as in other games your build will determine whether you even get access to some critical spells/tactics, etc.

So just to put my money where my mouth is, I'll attempt to, as a single example, list some of the Bright Wizard abilities, keeping in mind the BW is designed theoretically/primarily as a "simple" ranged DPS class.  This info is from Wardb and memory:

Scorched earth - instant cast PBAoE damage
Fiery blast - ranged AoE (fireball type) damage
Rain of Fire - instant cast, location based AoE DoT
Choking smoke - instant cast Hex with target based AoE 5 second  silence effect
Annhilate - PBAoE held (forgot the term to use) DoT, at the cost of damage to yourself
Spreading Flames - extra DoT, but only on a Hexxed enemy
Favorable winds - instacast buff that extends the radius of all your AoE effects by 50% for 20 seconds
Conflagration of doom - similar to Rain of Fire with larger radius
Detonate - dmg + AoE DoT on a hexxed target
Playing with fire - hex that makes all healing 50% less effective
Boiling blood - DoT with resistance reduction
Flame Shield - retaliatory shield/proc
Slow Boil - Hex, for 10 seconds opponent's skills take 5sec longer to recharge
Withering Heat - held DoT + snare effect
Wall of Fire - creates wall of fire in front of you for 8 seconds that does DoT to anyone who touches it
Sear - basic nuke, 1s cast time
Pyroclastic Surge - nuke +disorientation Hex (if hexed), all skills take 1s longer to build up
Searing vitality - tactic if chosen adds a heal effect to Sear
Burning Iron - mild nuke + loss of 50AP
Draining Burn - tactic that improves Burning Iron dmg AND you get 50AP in addition
Fireball Barrage - stream of fireballs, 3 hits over 3 seconds, also does AoE dmg
Burning Head - huge dmg + AoE AND -600 morale to target

There's a lot more stuff, including an instacast AoE root and a couple of 3second cast nukes you get early on.  Oh yeah, forgot to mention that many/most skills help you build up "combustion" - which depending on how much you have built up has a separate attack effect.

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OK, so yes, this class is primarily about damage and different forms of damage.  But holy crap, it has pretty much every damage option  you can imagine (area affects, damage over time, ranged, personal based, target based, location based, spammable, etc etc) and obviously you can spec to make these work best the way you like.  Now look deeper, on top of pure damage in all its forms, there are a lot of "specials".  Crowd control in the form of snares, AP (basically like mana) reduction, morale reduction, Guild Wars like hexes that make skills take longer to recharge, skill to make healing ineffective, resistance debuff, skills to change base nature of other skills (adding healing effect or AP return)... 

I've played a ton of RPGs in my lifetime, and as I said before, personally I find it all a bit overwhelming.  It took me basically the whole weekend just to get this class playing to my personal skill/ability to level 11, let alone worrying about endgame options!  So it boggles my mind when someone casually dismisses the classes as seemingly being lacking in options.
3913  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tropic Thunder on: August 25, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
Saw it, absolutely loved it!  I can see how it wouldn't be everyone's type of humor though, and I think it will end up being fairly polarized as to how people react.

I can definitely see watching this again and again just for some scenes.  I thought RDJ was absolutely awesome, and ironically (or not) I seriously felt it was an Oscar worthy performance.

My personal favorite line:  "I don't read the script - the script reads me." 
3914  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: August 25, 2008, 08:36:20 PM

Quote from: Aganazer on August 25, 2008, 05:07:54 PM

I think I'm with DArtagnan about being a bit skeptical about WAR. Granted I only played for one evening during a level 30 focus test. I was surprised at just how few abilities a level 30 character has and more surprised at how few of those abilities had an interesting mechanic built into them. It seemed like 95% of all the abilities I read about (on a few different classes) were all variants of damage or heal. I did see some simplistic CC's and the taunt/detaunt mechanic was OK, but I sure didn't see anything that I thought would force me to make critical decisions in combat or to use adaptive tactics.

I am a huge fan of Magic, the Gathering and have even designed a few card games and board games. I live, eat, and breath combat interactions and game mechanics. IMO the greatest strength of WoW is the uniqueness of every class and how they interact with the world in different ways. This is even more so with CoX and its myriad of effects like fear, confuse, disorient, stun, hold, knockback, drains, toggles, cones, teleports, etc. I don't know enough about WAR to say that all the classes are the same, but I do know that the differences are more subtle than they are in other games. They also lack a lot of the uniqueness that defines classes in other games.

I know they did this for balance reasons. Its not easy to balance unique effects and abilities. IMO they took the cheap way out and instead of including powerful abilities and counter abilities, they chose not to include them at all or at least to water them down so much that they are almost insignificant. Some people will probably really appreciate it. I just don't think I'll be one of them.

I don't even know how to respond to posts like this.  Clearly you didn't actually play the game or make any attempt to really play the game before throwing out these generalizations.  But as you've said, to each his own. 
3915  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer: Best fleshed out class, worst fleshed out class? on: August 25, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
I generally don't like dwarf classes at all in games, but these are the best looking dwarves I've seen in a game yet.  I mean I actually thought some of the models looked HOT, so that's saying a lot for me. thumbsup
3916  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: WB learns the wrong lessons from The Dark Knight on: August 22, 2008, 08:43:07 PM
I thought Dark Knight was very good, but it should not be underestimated how much impact there was from Heath Ledger's untimely death.  Yes he gave an incredible performance and it would have been celebrated regardless, but the box office going overboard had a lot to do with people (particularly women) wanting to see his final performance.  I'm pretty sure I read opening weekend had an abnormally large % of women viewers for an action film, and that was mostly due to the Heath Ledger X Factor.

In other words, WB should understand this was a special circumstance and leave it at that, not try to recreate the magic so to speak.
3917  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: iPhone renders all forms of dice obsolete - Pen and Paper fans rejoice!! on: August 22, 2008, 06:02:37 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 22, 2008, 12:21:00 AM

does it do d5's and d7's?

Yeah, in terms of functionality it basically does anything up to 100 - however from a physical/graphics standpoint, it just uses a generic multi-sided die for the ones it can't render. 

So, as an example, I can hit 2 d 5 + 3 d 7 and roll, and I see 5 dice and get a randomized result.

Does the free MotionX version also do similar things?
3918  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Stargate Atlantis cancelled...the bastards! on: August 22, 2008, 05:56:31 PM
What starts as a simple reconnaissance turns into a never ending mission, as the Stargate Universe crew discovers the ship is unable to return to Earth, and they must now fend for themselves aboard the Destiny.

Are they sure they don't want to call this Stargate: Voyager?

Anyway, at least it's nice there's a new series coming out.  My guess is after a number of years and the salaries increase, it's more lucrative to end the series and do the mini movie thing, where they can sell and rent single DVDs, probably much easier to market than selling the full season boxes.

3919  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online headed to Open Beta on 9/7 on: August 22, 2008, 05:52:45 PM

Quote from: DamageInc on August 22, 2008, 03:51:30 PM

Quote from: Tals on August 22, 2008, 03:07:35 PM

Quote from: Fez on August 21, 2008, 03:48:14 PM

Well, I'm not saying that Dart's concerns aren't valid, but a new "first impressions" post is now up at  In the post (link below), Jon Wood actually says he thinks Mythic did a good job of making each career feel significantly different than others.  That sounds positive.

What does he mean the character is on a disc - does that mean the characters don't 'walk'?


That is correct. The lore has something to do wiith being above other people so they don't walk the earth as it is beneath them

It's the Magus class only, very cool.  The funny thing is for the first couple weeks I was in beta I kept complaining that I had a bug that made some characters appear to be floating across the screen.  I thought it was lag or something.  I felt pretty stupid when I found out they were supposed to be  icon_biggrin
3920  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Stargate Atlantis cancelled...the bastards! on: August 21, 2008, 10:34:58 PM

Quote from: Turtle on August 21, 2008, 10:17:06 PM

Now what is Amanda Tapping going to do?  Tongue

Better yet, just what does scifi have that'll be worth watching?  It seems like for the longest time Stargate has anchored that evening's shows.

Actually Amanda Tapping already left - she's working on Sanctuary, which is going to premiere fairly soon.  Looks like a good show, but with Atlantis gone there is no sci-fi (with ships, etc) show on whatsoever.

It was originally developed as a web-based show, now they are converting it to regular for Sci Fi Channel
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