I love my windows pc and I love my macbook, but come on, apple crap is so ridiculously overpriced it borders on criminal. F the Apple tax!!! Their lowering of prices was nothing.
I don't know if I believe this story is true, seems pretty sad if it is. That said, if you take a really hard look at the Macbook line, it is not the overpriced monstrosity some like to make it to be.
Take the entry $999 Macbook. Go and look for something comparable in the PC world and you'll be surprised at what you find. But don't forget to take into account the processor, the graphics capabilities and the size/weight (most often ignored). The 9400M chipset is Apple's biggest strength at the moment, as it has allowed them to lower their prices but challenge the cheaper mainstream laptops which generally feature Intel GMA4500 at the best, which is still behind. In the $700-800 range you'll find some good laptops with similar processors, more RAM and a bigger hard drive, but with less graphics power. YMMV as to what that's all worth, but it's not as clearcut as some people seem to think.
Same thing goes with the Macbook Air - you can say it's incredibly overpriced compared to similarly specced laptops - until you do a real search and find out there is nothing out there in the same weight class that has the same performance; a couple of competitors have come close, but fell short in either the processor or graphics again.
As you get to the higher end Macbook Pro line, the comparisons start to become more interesting. But again, it's important to compare everything - size/weight, screen size, resolution, battery life, processor power, etc when you are doing these types of comparisons.
I dunno about all the complaints, but I just watched Roper's recent video on Character Creation and almost spooged in excitement. Absolutely cannot wait for this! Just playing with the character creator looks like it will be worth the purchase price IMHO. (And BTW I thought CoX was pretty awesome for character creation as well). I almost wish this was not an MMO and you could create a full team of your own heroes. Or that they'd use the same engine for such a game. About 30 years ago I used to write my own comics and of course I had created full teams of heroes that I would love to re-create.
But it's the kind of thing that if you didn't consciously fret about, it probably wouldn't make that much difference. It all depends on how serious you are about speed. If you are really impatient and get annoyed that Windows 7 isn't coming up in a matter of seconds, or some game is taking 2 minutes to load up instead of 1 and a half, you probably want to make the plunge.
Also as mentioned, I would look at SSD as well at this point if you are most interested in booting up quickly. OCZ's Vertex line is getting more and more reasonable; I think they just came out with a new one too.
Quote from: Hotfreak on July 15, 2009, 01:24:39 PM
I'm with you on the class customization aspect. I like competitive shooters, but not in my MMO. Leveling, loot and customization are the most crucial aspects of an RPG for me. I'd love to hear more about how Aion addresses these.
I only played a few hours during the last weekend beta, and in spite of having that general MMO addictive style gameplay, it was all in all pretty disappointing. Keep in mind I only got to level 10 where I got my class specialization. But in terms of customization, etc it was as generic as generic could be. Every two levels I got a spell or 2 (whooppee). In between, nothing. Not a stat point to distribute, nada. Maybe access to a different piece of gear, which also seemed pretty sparse and uninspired. Again, this is all beginner content only. Still, compare this with Runes of Magic (free game) and it actually falls quite short. In RoM you choose how to specialize in particular skills or not, saving points or not, and have the entire dual class system as well. In fact all in all RoM was a much more engaging experience in the beginner's zone from that standpoint.
The only thing I felt Aion did well at the outset was move you through the beginner zones back and forth fairly well, using a "Campaign" quest line to keep you engaged. In fact aside from that, and of course the addition of flight, I really saw nothing special in the game whatsoever. Now maybe it doesn't really rev up til later levels, but certainly the beginning portion was pure MOTS.
I did see the finale, and was pleasantly surprised, and pleasantly creeped out as well.
Spoiler for Hiden:
Soul gets the win for calling Henry - it really never occured to me until he suggested it, and then it was like, oh man that would be so cool - and then they actually did it!! If I were to think about the plot, it probably wouldn't make much sense, but this being a horror show I decided to ignore it.
One thing that bugged me was just how presumptuous the killers' "plan" was. At the point when there were 2 or 3 guns on Wakefield, there's no way they could just flat out know no one would kill him. I mean this guy had just put them through Terror 101, there's no reason to presume at least one of the good guys would not freak and kill him. Hell after all the scares, I'd be like, shoot him, cut his head off, burn the body, and nuke the remains from space, it's the only way to be sure
I do have to admit I was uncomfortably turned on by Evil Henry. That actor (Chris Gorham?) I've always found "cute" but not necessarily sexy (even after seeing his cut bod in Ugly Betty). But man after he turned evil it seemed to do something for him, I noticed how tight his jeans were and his ass looked great in them, I loved the tone of his craziness. If I was Abby I'd be like, hey let's get it on... But I digress. I think it was a good turn for him career-wise, he gave me a bit of a Christian Bale/American Psycho vibe and it was nice to see him play against type for once.
The end sequence was definitely a bit bizarre and the timeline seemed very skewed, but it was fun in a creepy incestuous way. I love the line when he says "I did the math." I thought Abby was disappointing though, I thought she could have brought more to the conclusion than just stereotypical running and screaming and crying. I guess you're supposed to presume she was in shock from having to deal with this guy who she had known and loved for so long.
All in all, agree with Q, fun ride that kept me watching. Sadly I don't think it did well enough to warrant any kind of sequel. I really like this format with a beginning and an end, but I wonder if American audiences just aren't into that kind of storytelling any more. Mini-series don't seem to fare as well as they used to, and thus far, this kind of maxi-series doesn't seem to float well here.
Quote from: wonderpug on July 14, 2009, 05:48:42 PM
rittchard was fresh out of high school, got suckered into candy-like credit card offerings, got addicted to the "free money," then had trouble getting out of the ever-increasing spiral of debt and purchasing addiction.
It didn't help that I was dealing with a lot of deep seeded depression from neglecting coming out issues - but that's just an excuse which I had to eventually take ownership of.
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Thanks all for the words of encouragement, it's been a pretty crazy journey, and I realize I am very lucky to have got this far. I was actually afraid to talk too much about it for fear of jinxing myself.
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Lettuce - yeah we did buy the house, which kind of means I just traded one debt for another, as one of my friends immediately reminded me But at least I feel like I am doing something more responsible with my finances now. I think.
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Arc, I completely agree it should be more difficult to get credit cards. I still remember in college the tables all lined up from CC companies waiting to prey on all the newbs. I thought I was smarter than all that, but it just became so addictive and so easy.
I don't know the etiquette for this kind of thing, but I posted this on my blog because it's so damn long I didn't think it would be appropriate to dump in a post here. It's the story of, and I guess you could call it the method I used, to finally get through a ton of crappy credit card debt:
I wound up talking to her about it, and we're speaking again. She did mention her thesis as something that was causing her a ton of stress. We've smoothed things over for now, and I didn't admit more than fifty percent culpability in the fight that led to the silence thing (which I think was a 50/50 thing).
In other news, I think this is my first personal problem/venting post that's gotten anywhere near two pages, let alone past that, so hooray!
Congrats on all the above! Sounds like a win win win!
Hope you have a good 5-year anniversary too - of course at 5 years isn't it about time to "put a ring on it"?
I think this is firmly in the "stupid" category, but even with arguments in those categories, it's up to me to break the silence, as she simply won't. She went without speaking to her mother for six months (and they lived 20 minutes apart at the time) over something trivial when we first started seeing each other. In retrospect, that should have been a big red flag.
eeek, definite red flag material!! But I guess something compelled you to keep moving forward and stay together this long.
Normally, I probably would've smoothed this over the next day, and I probably still can at any point. This time though, I'm starting to wonder how many more times I want to do this. Does she value our relationship so little that she'll just refuse to talk to me for the rest of our lives? Part of me says that she would, and part of me thinks that she's got some kind of mental block about it, and that it's not entirely within her control (she has some serious anger management issues as well).
This is kind of scary and may be worth talking about as a topic in general. It sounds like she has some personal issues independent of you that she needs to work out.
I just have to decide if I want to smooth this over and carry on as normal, smooth it over, but say "this is it, I'm not doing this anymore" (which would probably eventually result in the relationship ending), or just not break the silence (which would probably also result in relationship ending). And then the biggest question, which is "would I be okay with the relationship ending?" Honestly, sometimes I don't know if I'm staying in the relationship because of the relationship, or because of the pain in the ass it would be for us to split to separate living arrangements.
Honestly I think everyone (or most people anyway) go through periods like this. I've certainly gone back and forth a ton of times over the years. But every so often my partner does or says something (without even knowing) that reminds me why I've stuck with him this long. Love is whacked out some times.
Complicating matters is that she's stressed with writing a thesis and I suspect she's going through a bout of mild to moderate depression (which she won't see anyone about) that is probably negatively affecting the relationship. If that's the case, do I stick this out in hopes that things improve when she comes out the other side, or are the two things independent?
Now THIS changes everything! Is she working on a PhD? Because PhDs/theses will generally drive ANYONE insane and no one should he held accountable for how they behave during said period But seriously every person I've known who's gone through it has had a hell of a time in one way or another.
That said, I do believe that while the thesis is certainly skewing things beyond a normal level, the parts of her you don't like or have problems dealing with will still be there after. They may not surface in the same ways or be as challenging to deal with, particularly as you (hopefully) grow and evolve together, but more than likely they will always be a part of her - if she chooses never to face them head on and deal with them. I started dating my bf since we were both in grad school, and there were times he was so stressed out with finishing his thesis, I could hardly believe it. I always told myself it would be different later, but guess what? 14 years later and he's still the most stressed out person (only now over his job) I know.
Quote from: DamageInc on July 08, 2009, 08:52:13 PM
Most arguments are not about what you are arguing about. How many people could raise their hand right now if they can remember arguing about small meaningless crap. This is what eats away at most relationships.
You have to uncover what the real issues are and either solve them, accept them or move on. If you move on, you will most likely run into the same cycle again.
I have to agree 100% with this. In general with my partner, I'm the "always right" guy and he ends up apologizing. And in general our arguments are about small meaningless crap; we've been together so long now I can generally tell when it's evolved from a deep-seeded issue or is just a momentary lapse. Here's an example: couple nights ago he gets back from work and out of the blue starts bitching at me about why I "never" do the dishes and "never" clean the kitchen sink area. It's a short tirade, and I pretty much say "do you really want to do this again?" because we just had the same fight a few months ago, wherein I started counting how many times I put the dishes away and he soon realized it was just a perception thing based on his stress level. That was easy to smooth over, I don't know or even care if he apologized. But last weekend we had a similar "out of the blue" type of argument, and this one I realized was in reality due to one of our big issues (involving my family, too complicated to talk about) and he was just venting. We ended up not talking about it and he smoothed over as soon as I got home, but as Damage said we will likely run into the same cycle again. I could have chosen to bring the "real issue" up again, but we have fought over it ad infinitum and it seemed kind of pointless at the moment. We will face it again soon enough.
So anyway, I'd be curious to ask just how "stupid" was the original argument - if it was really meaningless, it really doesn't matter who apologizes or gives in first, it should just blow over with a few words or a simple gesture. But given the length of time of the silence, it seems like it could be more serious than you thought? If it was truly stupid, my guess is you could smooth it over without a true apology, maybe just an acknowledgment it was a stupid fight and you are ready to move on.
wow, you are way overthinking things, and I don't feel the need to defend the movie to any of you here so I'll just say I liked it like PR_GMR did and leave it at that.
Count me in as someone who definitely enjoyed it. A little too long for my taste and maybe a few more slower moments would have been nice, but all in all a great time at the movies. FWIW, most the entire audience clapped at the end. The only other time I got that this year was for The Hangover.
Surprisingly, each week I tell myself that the show really isn't all that great, then I find myself locked in for the entire show and wishing I didn't have to wait a week for the next episode.
Hey Q, how are ya! This is EXACTLY how I feel about the show. I make fun of it, say it's lame, and then get completely wrapped up in it on Saturdays. When I realized they were delaying a week I got pissed I'd have to wait lol.
Soul - love that theory, never occured to me! If they could pull that off it would be sweet.
I am really enjoying Season 2 thus far. There's a very different energy and spark to the show, even though the main cast is pretty much the same. The additions of Eric and Jessica have been excellent, and of course Ensign Ro is awesome as always. While I liked Season 1, it always felt like something was missing to me, or maybe it was too mired in the murder plot which I didn't find particularly interesting. This season seems full of surprises, new demons, intriguing characters, and more interesting sub-plots (including the Light camp which I thought I wouldn't enjoy). Maybe once they knew they were doing well and picked up for another season, they were able to relax and really let loose with the plotlines.
Yeah, kind of a slow start, but enjoyable. I'm not sure exactly what kind of audience they are gunning for. Is the show supposed to be a drama or a comedy or just kind of undefinable?
Thomas Jane does a pretty good job with the role coming across sympathetic, and at times just pathetic enough you can believe it. I was afraid he might be too goodlooking/charming to convince me he had to go this route, but actually the good looks work to his advantage well since you have to buy him as being attractive enough to want to pay for. He definitely seems like he could be an ex-high school jock who didn't get far career wise after failing out in sports, and all he has left is his looks.
Pre-ordering the game on Gamestop seems to automatically get you into the preview beta weekends. There's one coming up for the long weekend (starts the 2nd or 3rd I think) in case anyone is interested. I think once you get the code, though, you can't cancel the pre-order, so beware.
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Quote from: rittchard on June 27, 2009, 07:50:45 PM
It was clearly a pilot as it leaves you hanging with tons of interesting sub-plots ready to be explored for all the characters.
And that was my biggest problem with this, not having a clue that was the case coming into it. I kept thinking, what kind of a conclusion can they possibly come to in the next 30 minutes? 10 minutes? Dang, then it just ended after laying all that groundwork and starting to get to the interesting bits. That's fine for a pilot with a series coming but to do it when there's basically only a snowball's chance in hell of the series getting picked up just didn't seem right to me.
Reading afterwards online I saw that they really just wanted to get their work out there in front of people and perhaps to raise a groundswell of support for the series itself. But then, as noted, even if they green-lighted the series Fox would have killed it in its infancy.
Sadly, I think it was intended, or even assumed, that the series was going to be green-lighted, and thus the pilot movie, even edited, was very much a pilot. I remember the first time I read about this, a long while back, it sounded like the series was already in production. I guess Ron Moore had less cache from BSG than people might have hoped/imagined.
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Quote from: Frogstar on June 23, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Just curious -- is anyone still watching this? I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who watches the show.
I watched the first episode and that was enough. Too much like network TV for me.
While we can certainly argue about the quality (or lack thereof) of the show and the writing, plot holes, etc. I would have to say in fairness, one thing it is NOT, is "too much like network TV". This is a show whose premise is, for better or worse, an elongated horror film, and as such is willing to kill off major and minor characters without apology. I can't think of a single traditional network TV series that used this format. If you said too much like a long-ass generic horror movie, I'd probably agree.
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This last episode was possibly one of my favorites, keeping up the tension and continuing to have you guessing at whether or not the main killer (now revealed) has had help. And the writers finally were successful in having me give a crap about whether some of the side characters lived or died, which is really the most difficult thing to do in horror films. That's really been the downfall of this series, IMHO. Too many characters introduced at the outset, and not introduced with enough depth, such that as they died one by one, you couldn't really care less. Even some of the later deaths felt more like fodder, which is pretty sad after so many weeks. As a counter, look at how well Scream did in just the opening minutes with Drew Barrymore giving you a compelling death sequence that had some resonance. That said...
Spoiler for Hiden:
I was completely annoyed with the Chloe and Brit guy plotlines from the getgo. I thought they'd be one of the first to get knocked off, but each week it looked like they were the writers' favorites and could make it to the end. This week they finally had me rooting for them, and I thought they had perhaps the best, most dramatic, death sequence of the show. I actually had some feeling for them (also last week's scene with the sheriff dad), something which had really been missing up to the last few episodes. Now this being TV, I could see them saving the 2 of them in the finale, since the girl just jumped and the guy just got stabbed again after being shot, they could still make it.
The first time I saw Thomas Jane emerge shirtless from the water in Deep Blue Sea, I nearly jizzed in my pants. I was really THAT stunned by how gorgeous he is/was. Needless to say I've been a fan ever since. I know I drool over a lot of people, but he is/was definitely something special.
Not sure about this show though, it seems like a one gimmick kind of thing, but who knows.
I had little to no expectations for this, and it was almost a fluke I even noticed it was on. There was a small blurb review of it in the LA Times which I had skimmed and seemed favorable.
Imagine my surprise when it turned out to be a really fascinating and interesting show, well written and well acted. It's incredibly disappointing to have it killed before given a chance, though given Fox's record they would likely have killed it in a few episodes anyway.
The premise is a blend of various sci-fi elements that on paper doesn't really sound nearly as good as the end result shown last night was. There's definitely a Sunshine vibe to it, but it's mixed with Star Trek holodeck (and the original movie Virtuality) intrigue, and then wrapped in a Real World reality TV-esque package, complete with confessionals. Basically you have a spaceship going into deep space for the first time, possibly humanity's last hope to find a planet to colonize as things on the earth have gone south (maybe). The whole shebang is being filmed and edited and beamed back to earth for the greatest ratings bonanza ever, and the pilot movie/episode focuses on the go/no-go decision to take the mission into deep space past Neptune.
The virtual reality comes into play immediately, as much as in TNG, they possess technology that allows the crew to escape into individual (or combined) fantasies, nominally to keep people sane and allow privacy through the long (10 year) journey. But of course there's some kind of glitch (or is there?) that allows them to explore the nature of "reality" and virtual behavior and touch on issues like virtual death, rape, fidelity and personal relationships.
The cast is/was all around excellent, I really found no flaws and I can be pretty picky. CG effects were adequate but definitely not the emphasis of the show. It was clearly a pilot as it leaves you hanging with tons of interesting sub-plots ready to be explored for all the characters. Standouts include the sexy David Boreanaz-ish captain (I think he was in New Amsterdam), the sexy lead female (some hot blond chick with a cute accent), her psychologist husband (some blond dude with a cute accent) and Clea DuVall (Heroes) who is always good in everything she's in. Gay fans were initially excited to hear it was the first sci-fi show with an openly "married" gay couple, and their sexuality being a complete non-issue.
There's some effort to save the series for pickup, but chances seem pretty poor given the weak amount of publicity for the show, then being shown on a random Friday evening.
Impressions: this is an awesome initial release of the classic game. Graphics and sounds are updated but the gameplay is very much the original game. All the pieces, all the spells, are back. This game is truly a masterful mix of chess-like board game strategy with arcade skill/timing blended together. I had some issues with the action portion of the game in terms of aiming and shooting in my first game, but by the second game I had a much better grasp of the UI/controls. I'd say they could improve the responsiveness a bit more, but again, for a first version I was very happy to get the old Archon feel. One thing they may also want to do for beginners is have some sort of tutorial or explanation of all the spells and the individual creatures' strengths and weaknesses.
What's missing? The most glaring thing is multi-player. Presently this is a single player vs. computer game. This is actually fine for me, but clearly the game was always intended to be a 1v1 experience (used to play side by side on a single keyboard, those were the days). 1v1 via internet would be very cool. Oddly I don't see any talk about MP, but they do mention 2.0 will have a single player campaign mode.
Edit: I think they really want to expand to other consoles - I could see this being huge on XBLA.
Quote from: Frogstar on June 23, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Just curious -- is anyone still watching this? I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who watches the show.
I'm still oddly obsessed with it, it's very comforting to watch for some reason even though it can feel incredibly lame and predictable at times. I'm pretty sure I guessed correctly who the killer(s) is/are fairly early on, from the looks of the preview last week I think I'm going to be correct.
Spoiler for Hiden:
I always guessed there would be 2 killers (a la Scream). My theory from about the 3rd or 4th ep was that Jimmy was the bad guy, along with Wakefield. Just a guess based on it needing to be one of the main stars to be more interesting, and someone who appeared to be a good guy. So maybe Jimmy is Wakefield's son, the only problem being that he would be the girl's half brother, which might be too incestuous for TV.
I'm also trying out that Nextworth website to sell off the 3G, will keep you posted on how that goes. The initial setup is seamless, they even generate a postal label for you so shipping is free! Quote for "like new" condition is $250, it drops to $216 for "normal". They also ask for accessories but really don't give you much of anything, so unless you were going to throw them away there's no point to including them.
I've been playing against the White deck in the campaign, on the easiest AI level, and still keep losing. I think I had a good chance to win once but I made 1 or 2 mistakes and it was not forgiving, again, even at easiest AI. I'm not saying I'm a pro or anything but I've played enough matches to do OK. The White AI just infuriates me with its abundance of fliers, and units that heal when played. Grrr. I think I had a better shot at winning with the Red deck, any suggestions?
I do wish they'd at least allow you to delete cards out of the deck, there are some I just don't want to appear at all and it's just a waste. Also seems like they are overloaded with land, but that could just be a luck thing.
Nice trailer!! I love how they've taken sci-fi TV favorites (or leftovers depending on your point of view) from everywhere! Of course most/all of them have bad track records of keeping shows alive.
Morena - Firefly/SG1 (I love her!) Alan Tudyk - Firefly/Dollhouse (I love him!) Juliette! - Lost (I absolutely love her!) Joel Gretsch - The 4400 (I absolutely love him!) Scott Wolf (go Bailey! used to love him!) and Lourdes Benedicto - The Nine (ack)
Hmm, aside from Juliette, everyone here has prematurely cancelled shows lol.
I am really having a hard time deciding what video card to shoot for. Right now I have seen systems in my price range that offer the following cards.
HD 4350, HD 4670, HD 4830, HD 4850, GF 9600GT, GF 9800GT, GF GTS 250.
I need to figure out what type of PSU these card need so I don't get caught with too little power. Of the above cards, I am leaning the most towards the HD 4830 and the GF 9600GT due to price. I might be able to bump up to the HD 4850 or the GF 9800GT.
Have you any thoughts on these cards?
My favorite place to look is Tom's Hardware, they usually do a "best bang for the buck" roundup every month - looks like HD4850 is the way to go right now.
I finally got it downloaded late last night, and looks like I may be in the minority, but I really enjoyed it. Granted I only played 2 matches in Campaign mode (won 1 lost 1) but it really revved up the old Magic feel for me. Even a bit of nostalgia as it seems like they used many of the original sound effects from the old PC game. The second game came down to the wire, I was losing the whole time but a timely card gave me 2 massive monster attacks, both with trample, and 1 turn to survive. I didn't count the numbers but I think I might have won through trample damage. But the AI cast some stupid spell that voided all damage that turn (argh!) and promptly killed me. Booooo!!!! But man did it get the MTG juices going. I think they did a great job with the interface and speed of the game (presuming you are familiar with the matches), and there is a decent tutorial to get you started. Card artwork looks great with the zoomed in mode.
I definitely understand the complaints about the lack of deck building, but in all honesty I kind of don't mind. As much fun and strategically interesting as that can be (and usually I am a 100% sucker for it), it can also suck up way too much time between actually playing, and in a game as complex as MTG it can certainly create incredible balance issues. I think this system, with a few tweaks, will be much more novice and casual player friendly. At least if I were to go online and play, I would know that I wouldn't have to go against players with tons of uber cards or trick decks that they were building and planning out for months. Now you can argue (rightfully) that this sucks out a huge essence of "Magic" - the entire collection and deck building aspects that many people love. But I would argue the tradeoff is this allows players to simply focus on the core of the game - just the fun of playing the matches.
Certainly this is not a "deep" full blown MTG experience, but for 800pts ($10?) and no worry (presently) about buying new cards, I think it fits the "Arcade" part of XBLA just fine. Just jump in and start a match, boom!
Hehe, yeah Crysis was (and I suppose) remains the toughest benchmark. The systems I config'd should be perfectly fine for Crysis at high detail I believe, depending on the resolution. You'll likely want the 8800/9800 series at a minimum if Crysis is your goal. Not sure on the ATI side what the equivalent would be, maybe the HD 4850?
Hrnac, I've purchased from Cyberpower multiple times and have had no issues with them. I have recommended them to a couple friends who also have had no issues, aside from one problem with a power supply (IIRC) that was promptly replaced.
Somewhere, a team of people at AT&T have already done the math and decided that the monetary value assigned to your collective added loyalty is less than the $200 per person willing to upgrade. Money now is worth more than money later. Hard figures are worth more than soft figures. The problem with the equation here is that all of the other carriers suck in a similar manner, so AT&T knows that if you get pissed at them, they still look just like everyone else - and they have your $200.
Good point gellar, sad but true... always disheartening to be reminded all you really are to most companies (even the one you work for!) is just a number.
I'm trying to figure out how much I should increase my withholding number to now that I am (likely) going to purchase a house. I used a calculator and hand calculations, and it's coming out to like 10-12 mostly due to the huge amount of interest! I've never heard of anyone taking that many so I'm wondering what you all have. I was thinking of just putting 3 or 4, but I wonder if I should do as the calculations seem to dictate. Thanks!