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3121  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Next Gen MMO Discussion Topics (now with SW:TOR!) on: January 13, 2010, 06:37:37 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on January 13, 2010, 03:44:56 AM

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I know, I know, you probably meant the 3D technology but as a movie isn't Avatar as guilty as a WoW clone of being completely generic?

What pushes MMOs forward as a genre isn't story, it's technology/innovation in how we play. So yes, by my James Cameron comment I was talking about the way his new camera system/utilization of 3D moved films forward.


Definitely agreed on this.  The only thing I'd add as an adjunct is if the technology/innovation can inherently create "stories" based on historical parameters, that kind of "evolution AI" is something I would love to see.  So for example, the history of a given kingdom has it set in place that the King was murdered by one of his 5 sons, who has now taken the throne.  As the game world "starts" the 4 other brothers are all placed in different parts of the kingdom.  Some are married with their own kids as well.  Every character is built with AI parameters to set their personalities and goals, and starting conditions set their resources and abilities.  You can have wives that want their passive husbands to take the throne, or the kids coming of age and wanting power, etc etc.  Then you just let the engine run and see what happens.  Very much like The Sims 3 but on a far grander scale.  As players you either choose to get involved or you don't.  Watch the story unfold, or make your own goals and alliances and play them out.  Obviously the passage of time has to be carefully monitored - too slow and it's boring, too quick and players will miss out on too many key events. 
3122  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Whats your anagram name? on: January 12, 2010, 06:31:34 PM
I didn't get anything as cool as Anal Mad Lover, but here are my best ones:

Chair Radish
A Chard Irish
A Radish Rich
Chairs Hard I
Raid Ash Rich
A Hard Rich Is
Hard As Rich I


I have to admit I do like Chair Radish.  I think I'm going to call myself that from now on and see if it sticks.
3123  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dollhouse Season 2 on: January 11, 2010, 09:47:57 PM
I have no idea where Joss is going with this, but man am I enjoying the ride.  Still trying to decide if all of what we've seen is still consistent with Epitaph: Two.
3124  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Chuck vs. Season 3 - Mondays 8/7C on NBC. on: January 11, 2010, 09:43:20 PM
I read Kristin Kreuk was indeed coming in as a new Buy More employee and love interest for Chuck to offset Brandon Routh and create a four-way love intersection.

I enjoyed the 2 eps not quite as much as I thought I would, but still was very happy to see the show back again.

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I think my biggest problem with the "plot" was not being able to accept Chuck not taking Sarah up on her proposal, after all they'd been through and all he'd already seen.  It just didn't feel consistent with his love for her and maybe more importantly, what he's seen the govt capable of in the past.  This is the same govt that was ready to kill him last season and yet now he's willing to sacrifice the chance of a lifetime with the love of his life to work for them?
3125  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bayonetta - from the Starshifter School of Design on: January 08, 2010, 06:51:58 PM

Quote from: Roguetad on January 08, 2010, 12:01:38 AM

I like the cutscenes because they are goofy, ludicrous, often times make no sense, and are just completely perfect for the insanity of this game.  I have no idea what's happening in some of them, I just appreciate the crazy. 

This!  As I mentioned earlier, I think the game is so heavily stylized (from the cutscenes to the music choices to the kitschy dialog) that it will alienate some players.  But what I love about it is that the developers clearly have a distinct vision and simply do not feel the need to cater to any particular audience or apologize for it.  So refreshing!
3126  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Lost: The Final Season on: January 08, 2010, 06:45:22 PM

Quote from: morlac on January 08, 2010, 03:08:45 PM

Quote from: msteelers on January 08, 2010, 02:46:43 PM

I thought that the pacing in some of the middle seasons were off. They didn't know where to take the show, and it was obvious in the writing. Nothing was happening.

I'm sure watching them all back-to-back covered this a little bit, it always does help when a show has slow pacing. But watching them as they aired each week was rough.

I can agree with this somewhat.  Still during the 'lean' times the dialogue writing and character development were still top notch.  Not to mention the acting for the most part is some of the best in television.  The slow development of the story arc was  bit annoying though.

Agreed on both accounts.  The writers even acknowledged this in some of the interviews I saw.  Basically they had a very good idea of what their endgame was going to be like, but without knowing when that would take place, they essentially had to build in filler material (thus Paolo and Nicki!).  I'm one of those people, though, that doesn't mind the filler so much, as long as I like the acting, characters, general writing, direction, etc - similar to what Morlac says.  I know many people get impatient when the overall story arc doesn't flow well.

One good thing that came about their earlier meanderings - Ben.  The producers have definitely shown their flexibility in things like writing him in to become a major character.  Apparently he was orginally slotted for just a bit part but essentially won everyone over with his performance.  I can't imagine the show without him at this point.
3127  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Trailer] Daybreakers on: January 08, 2010, 06:39:15 PM
I need some reviews!  Anyone see this?

I thought this was going to be a bigger deal, but given that it was shuffled into the January dumping ground with almost no fanfare (particularly with Legion and that Denzel movie both coming out as well), I'm wondering if I over-estimated it's appeal.
3128  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Tablet PCs on: January 08, 2010, 06:37:55 PM
Here's some cool Tablet stuff from nVidia:

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/08/ces-2010-nvidia-tegra-2-to-power-tablets-in-2010/

Given what we now know smart and superphones (as well as iPod Touch) are capable of in a much smaller form factor, plus last year's Netbook revolution (indicating people like superportable ALOT if the price is right), and finally coupled with Apple's possible entry into the market, I think the time for Tablets is really, finally here.  The power and capability are close enough that they could serve as a catch-all piece of tech that you carry around everywhere, for work and/or entertainment.  Though you might argue your iPhone does all this already, I still think the Tablet size is important once you want to (eventually) replace or supplant paper media, particularly for things like meetings or discussions or reading over large documents, especially when more than one person is involved.  It's still hard to show someone something you are talking about on your iPhone without handing the whole thing over.

It's going to be interesting to see if the cheaper versions or high-end ones catch on first, but my guess is this is definitely the beginning of their rise. 
3129  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Lost: The Final Season on: January 08, 2010, 12:49:10 AM

Quote from: msteelers on January 07, 2010, 10:04:28 PM

I like that in the interview the one writer talks about how the shitty episodes allowed them to get the end date from the studio, which in turn has allowed them to finish it and pace it out in such a way that the stories are actually good again.

So without those shitty episodes, these last few seasons wouldn't have been possible.

This will henceforth be known to me as The Dollhouse Effect.  I was discussing with a friend how much better Dollhouse was in its final episodes now that they were forced to bring the plots to a head and every episode was part of the core plotline as opposed to "filler."

- - -

Now, having seen most Lost episodes a minimum of twice, and most of them three times, I'd have to say I really don't recall there being any truly "shitty" episodes.   One of the eps that the producers called the worst was the Bai Ling/Tattoo episode, and honestly even though there were some horrible things about it, I loved the camp value Bai Ling brings, and plenty of naked Jack made the episode a must watch for me.  There were a few eps in the beginning of season 3 (I think) where Jack, Kate and Sawyer were trapped with the Others that at the time I found very annoying and aggravating - but having now watched them in sequence on Blu Ray, I felt they flowed much better and were actually fine in the overall scheme.  In fact this goes with some of S2 as well, once you watch it all without interruption (particularly with the beauty of Blu-Ray), it all flows much better.  Sure you can argue there is plenty of "filler" content in some of the awkward episodes (Nikki and Paulo anyone?), but for the most part the quality of the show has always been top notch, and even the worst episodes offered something enjoyable for the hardcore fans.
3130  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Tablet PCs on: January 08, 2010, 12:40:59 AM
I believe it's a good time to officially resurrect this thread!!!
3131  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bayonetta - from the Starshifter School of Design on: January 07, 2010, 10:14:25 PM

Quote from: Nth Power on January 06, 2010, 10:58:45 PM

OK, I got back in the game and finished the prologue.  The cut scenes are awesome.  They're so over the top, yet done with style.

Ditto from me for first impressions.  This game just oozes absolutely with style, it's almost like I don't care about the other elements.  It's like some insane combo of Asian martial arts, anime, comic books and the Matrix action scenes.  But with witchy attitude.  I can see though that being so stylized, it may not be everyone's cup of tea though, so it could be relatively polarizing in that sense.  Also on a technical note, I love that you get to practice combos *during* the load screens. 

- - -

On a side note, here's my casting for the movie:

Megan Fox as Bayonetta
Lady GaGa as the blond chick
Joe Pesci as the Joe Pesci guy
Lawrence Fishburne as the bartender dude

Of course all costumes will be re-designed by Lady GaGa.
3132  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains on: January 07, 2010, 10:07:43 PM
Cast list is REVEALED, I am very much excited (no surprise)!!!

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HEROES
Rupert Boneham, James Clement, Colby Donaldson, Cirie Fields, Amanda Kimmel, Jessica “Sugar” Kiper, Stephanie LaGrossa, James “JT” Thomas Jr., Tom Westman and Candice Woodcock.

VILLAINS
Tyson Apostol, Randy Baiey, Danielle Dilorenzo, Russell hantz, Jerri Manthey, “Boston” Rob Mariano, Parvati Shallow, Sandra Diaz-Twine, Benjamin “Coach” Wade and Courtney Yates.

Interesting they've included some past winners and players who've already been in 2 series.  Wonder if they will get targetted early.

I am so happy to see the hunktastic combo of Colby and JT (talk about hot gay fantasy material!) on the good side.  I also loved Stephanie and Amanda.  On the bad, I can't wait to see how Russell interacts with stupid Rob and Coach.  Poverty is also one of my old faves, and of course love love love Jerri.  Can't wait to see her back with Colby and boring him talking about chocoloate.
3133  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 07, 2010, 10:03:19 PM
Ack!  I just read 8ball's message as I downed a couple of Lemonheads.   icon_eek
3134  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the Apple iPad? on: January 07, 2010, 10:01:52 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on January 07, 2010, 09:45:42 PM

The appeal of Apple products is all in the design. I don't think there is another electronics company on the planet that focuses more on style than Apple.

I agree Apple products are over-priced. But in terms of blending cutting-edge style with a fantastic user experience, there's not many companies out there that can touch them. And I say that as former Apple despiser (while I still won't touch their computers, I do own an iPhone and have seen no other phone that has come close to rivaling it in terms of user experience).

So while I agree that the Apple cult phenomenon is at times inexplicable, I think there are concrete reasons for it that don't involve mind control or illegal drugs. Jobs puts the chic in geek.

It's not just the style though - otherwise clones which have copied (and maybe even improved upon) the style would likely be just as successful.  I think it's a combination of style and artistry, brilliant hardware engineering and innovation, and perhaps most importantly solid software (OS)/user interface development and testing.  The latter might be the most boring part in some ways, but ultimately the most important.  I've often bought products or used software where I wonder if a single "real" consumer was ever asked to test or use them, as there are numerous things that either don't make sense or just aren't the least bit intuitive.

As far as the comment on the Macbook Air, I don't have numbers or anything other than intuition to back this up, but my guess is it did not "fail" as seems to be the implication.  I've watched Dell, MSI and others 2 years later trying to create a competitor in the exact same class (thin, lightweight, 13", reasonably powered, etc), and still not being able to do it as well as Apple.  In other words these guys are still playing catch up and if it were that unsuccessful a concept, why would they bother.  I believe the MBA simply captured a small niche and comfortably stayed there - not to mention some of the hardware techniques and developments that were enablers for it were later carried over and refined to the general Macbook series.  So on that level, I would deem it an overall success, even if it heads to eventual discontinuation. 
3135  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Lost: The Final Season on: January 07, 2010, 09:51:59 PM
I am soooooo excited, thanks for posting the pics!!  As a dedicated TV nut, it's saying a lot when I have Lost on the brink of being my all time favorite TV series (the spot presently held by Buffy).
3136  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Star Trek Online (Cryptic's "other" new MMO) on: January 06, 2010, 10:34:52 PM
I pretty much gave up on this game after my third or fourth attempt to have fun in it.  Ultimately I just think the whole game architecture is flawed, but that's just a personal opinion.  Everyone seems to agree the ground combat is dry and does little to offer RPG depth or gameplay.  So that leaves the ship combat, which in all honesty I found interesting but similarly dull (particularly when someone here reminded me about the lack of physics).  If all I was looking for was fun Star Trek based ship combat, I would go back and play ST: Armada, which IMHO did combat much better - TEN years ago.

Speaking of which I wonder why no one ever bothered to make a sequel to Armada, I know it wasn't that well reviewed but I thought it was definitely one of the better Trek games I've played, and one of the few that was TNG specific.
3137  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone Play Battle for Wesnoth? on: January 06, 2010, 10:20:54 PM
Wow, such an old thread!!!

I just downloaded this yesterday for the Mac and it looks like a really solid TBS effort.  I love that it's out (and free) for so many formats, and I suspect it would make for more or less the perfect netbook (or in the future Tablet) TBS.

Also this may have been mentioned elsewhere, but it's also out for the iPhone as well ($4.99 though).  Very cool.
3138  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bayonetta - from the Starshifter School of Design on: January 06, 2010, 10:16:06 PM
OK so I just picked this up and I have to say just reading the descriptions in the manual was worth the price of admission.  A sexy chick with 2 guns on her feet and hair (a "wicked weave" lol) that summons demons to kill angels?   Who comes up with this stuff lol?!??
3139  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 06, 2010, 10:14:25 PM

Quote from: Qantaga on January 06, 2010, 09:11:03 PM

Quote from: Gratch on January 06, 2010, 08:56:16 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on January 06, 2010, 08:47:29 PM

Now that you two are out of the woods.

I just want to say it's threads like this that make me glad that I have brushed my teeth 3 times a day and rinsed nightly with fluoride just about every day for the last 10 years.

I do as well, but just happen to have really horrible teeth.
 
Yes, me, too. I have struggled with my teeth my entire life. I try to brush, floss, rinse, you name it and the cavities/tooth pain/root canals still manage to find me. My wife, on the other hand has never had a single, stinkin' cavity in her entire life. She takes care of her teeth, but she's nowhere near as diligent as I am. frown (for me) smile (for her).
   
I pray every night that our girls got her teeth and not mine.

I'll second that!!

I am bad with eating a lot of candy and drinking sodas, so I think this is my punishment.  But I do brush and use Listerine at minimum twice a day, and floss a couple times a week, which I think is above average for toothcare.  I think it's genes and luck really, as I happen to have a small mouth (which sucks, no pun intended!) with large teeth, so I've had issues from day one.
3140  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the Apple iPad? on: January 06, 2010, 10:08:51 PM

Quote from: rittchard on January 03, 2010, 07:53:35 PM

Now for students, I'm not sure - normally you'd want the better text for less eyestrain, but for graphics/images/graphs/charts, etc you'd likely prefer the (presumably) higher resolution.  That will be an interesting arena to watch.

Here's an interesting demo addressing my comment above:

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/05/coursesmart-looks-ahead-at-etextbooks-on-apples-tablet/
3141  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 06, 2010, 07:36:19 PM

Quote from: Gratch on January 06, 2010, 06:34:55 PM

Think I'm finally out of the woods.  Had the apicoectomy procedure done yesterday, and woke up this morning (after 14 hours of sleep, no less!) feeling approximately 1 million percent better.  I've got the typical pain you would expect from a surgical incision, but the throbbing and shooting pains down my jaw are completely gone.  I can't really open my mouth due to the stitches, but that's a minor inconvenience compared to the pain from the last few days.   I'm actually feeling like my normal self again, which is awfully nice.  smile

SWEET!!!!  Glad to hear it went well.

I'm back to work and fairly normal now, the tooth still kind of hurts (but as you said more normal from all the work done) and I'm starting to get some gas/stomach pains (I think from the antibiotics) but like you, starting to feel close to normal again which is wonderful.  Now I am just hoping for a day when I have no ailment/pain whatsoever, but that might be too much to ask for lol.
3142  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 05, 2010, 07:27:40 PM
Ack, holy crap Gratch!!  Really hope either the antiobiotics take, or the second procedure is successful.

I'm doing OK at the moment but kind of living in fear of another relapse.  I've already had a couple periods where I thought I was done and the pain returned, so I'm not ruling anything out.  Last night a couple of teeth on the other side of my mouth started to hurt and man did my paranoia kick in.  I think it was actually just residual pain/nerves from the main tooth, at least I am praying that's the case.  I'm not sure how much more of this I can handle.
3143  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil on: January 05, 2010, 07:23:30 PM
I saw the preview a while ago and it looked like a lot of fun, particularly since I love both the leads.  I wonder if it's going to get a full/wide release though.
3144  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bayonetta Vs. Darksiders: Which game to kick off your new year? on: January 04, 2010, 10:08:08 PM
I may end up with neither, but right now I'm leaning toward Bayonetta.  After the torturous week I've had, the thought of inflicting "torture" on some animated crap sounds kind of appealing.  Plus I like the sound that it seems like a relatively easy game to play (with 2 easy modes or something like that?) and I'm kind of in the mood for something more stress-free.
3145  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Torchlight, a follow-up to Fate and Mythos on: January 04, 2010, 10:04:08 PM

Quote from: jersoc on January 03, 2010, 07:35:49 AM

also, does anyone know if ironman includes enchants and gambling? so far ironman is god damn hard. i have 3 hp pots left and no id scrolls :|

Is ironman a mod?  Or do you mean Hardcore/Very Hard?  If it's the latter, I believe it has all the same features as the regular game. 

On a side note, I normally play every game in Easy mode, but for Torchlight I'm really enjoying the thrill and challenge of playing HC/VH.  I've died many times already but each time I tend to learn something and usually I'll be able to stash an item or 2 that helps the next guy along.  Every step requires more care and strategy, and every slight gear improvement can make a difference between survival or not.  Every level is that much more meaningful as I have to resist the temptation to simply boost DPS and get cool skills in favor of improving my ability to survive.

My latest attempt has been with a mod class - the Necromage, and it's been a lot of fun.  My first try botched around lvl 7.  Everything was going great up through evil Brink, but suddenly the next level down pwned me in seconds.  This time I started boosting Defense intensely from the getgo and it so far has paid off, though I've had a couple close calls.  Also wearing a shield which I forgot to last time (duh!).  I have Heal Self for me, Heal All on the pet and my finger on the 1 key (for potions) at all times. 
3146  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 04, 2010, 09:54:22 PM

Quote from: Gratch on January 04, 2010, 07:19:17 PM

Rittchard, I'm feeling guilty about hijacking your thread.  How you feeling man?

LOL, don't worry about that, it helps in some oddly disturbing way to know that another human can truly understand what you are going through.  I'm not sure on your timeline but I'm hoping you are/were able to get the oral surgery completed!

As for me, I had a mostly pain free day yesterday - until right when I was going to bed, it started to flare up again.  As usual the painkillers were worthless and I was back to ice treatment.  Not quite as intense as before but bad enough that I had to keep grabbing ice every couple minutes and then spitting it back out.  Which made sleep next to impossible.  I finally passed out around 3am and was luckily awoken by my cel phone; the endodontist was calling and they got me in nearly immediately.  After about a roughly 3 hour intense root canal procedure, I'm back at home with the area still numb.  She drilled and cleaned out the infected area but there was no pus, so I was a little concerned about that; she treated it with extra "medicine" due to some oddball condition I have in my tooth (supposedly more common in Asians) that makes it harder for the medicine to get around.  The doc said I would likely experience more pain and soreness due to the trauma on the tooth but hopefully not the weird effect that required ice.  We'll see when this stuff wears off.  Right now I'm not discounting anything from happening, just hoping I can get a decent sleep tonight with relatively low pain.
3147  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the Apple iPad? on: January 04, 2010, 04:41:22 AM
Here's a pretty decent article with predictions, etc.  Pretty much echoes my thoughts that Apple doesn't really need to create some masterpiece of surprising hardware, they just need to make something nice and leverage all their advantages in terms of iTunes, App Store, etc.  Fanbase and developers together will continue to define the "space" it fits into.

http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits/2010/01/antacid-tablet.ars
3148  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 04, 2010, 04:36:23 AM

Quote from: Gratch on January 04, 2010, 04:21:08 AM

Well, he can see me first thing tomorrow morning...assuming I make it through the night with my sanity intact.  I didn't think it could get much worse than the pain this afternoon.  Sadly, I was very wrong.

It's gonna be a long night.


I'm so so sorry for you Gratch.  Reading your last post and this one actually brought tears to my eyes as I remember exactly how I felt on Thursday.  I was literally on my knees in pain in the backyard begging God for forgiveness or respite and wondering what I'd ever done in my life to deserve it.  Not a single minute of respite, that's exactly what it was for me too.  The only thing I could do was suck on ice constantly.

It sounds to me like you have what I do, an infection and need antibiotics and probably a root canal bad.  I was lucky enough to get them prescribed in time, though it still took about 12+ hours before they started kicking in.  I wish I could offer some form of help but I know there's really nothing anyone can say or do - as you said it's impossible to focus on anything.
3149  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the Apple iPad? on: January 03, 2010, 07:53:35 PM
After having finally seen a Kindle in action, I can finally understand the need for eInk and the quality of the text, etc. - so I can see this wouldn't be a Kindle killer as much as a Kindle adjunct.  Presuming full flash capability, I think reading magazines and more color oriented media, particularly with touch interaction, would be the major benefit.  Now for students, I'm not sure - normally you'd want the better text for less eyestrain, but for graphics/images/graphs/charts, etc you'd likely prefer the (presumably) higher resolution.  That will be an interesting arena to watch.

Compared to the Air, I would say something even smaller and lighter would still be of great use to me.  It's still awkward in some places (like the bathroom), and being able to hold it very comfortably in one hand while touch browsing with the other would be awesome.  Losing the keyboard is kind of a bummer, but I suppose for serious typing I'd have to go back to a laptop or desktop.  Another perfect place that came to mind yesterday was on the treadmill, there's a perfect spot for an iPad-like device there.  I was using my iPhone but the screen really felt too small to watch stuff, and clearly the Air would be too big for that.

Another potential use would be for video chat, presuming there will be a front-side camera.  Sure you can do this with your laptop already using iChat, but iChat on a handheld touchscreen seems to invite a lot of ummmm.... opportunity  icon_razz

Clearly it's not a "necessity" type of item, but it certainly has the potential to fill a subtle space that no one has quite done right yet.  UMPCs have been trying for years to fill this space with a winner (trust me, I know because I have so many different failed attempts in my closet) but I really think Apple is the only one poised to really do it right.  They know how to build sophisticated, user-friendly hardware, and have now proven they can handle tons of software on top of that.  Unlike many of the handheld/portable devices that get released, you can tell their hardware goes through extensive user testing and iterations.  Sure they tend to "forget" a few key things with each initial release, but that just gives them room to improve (and make suckers like me buy future iterations).
3150  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ok...you asked.... on: January 03, 2010, 07:41:35 PM
Very HOT, me likey!!!

Hopefully you won't mind having a creepy GT stalker   ninja
3151  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Next Gen MMO Discussion Topics (now with SW:TOR!) on: January 03, 2010, 04:22:00 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on January 03, 2010, 04:05:02 AM

Until developers stop using WoW as a yardstick to measure success, we won't see another innovative, fresh, fun MMO. I really have a deep hatred for WoW because of the negative impact it had on the industry. I know people will argue that it brought new players to the genre, fixed some broken concepts, etc. And I can certainly see the positives it had - heck, I played it a bunch, was even in the beta. But I can't stand a monopoly, and that's what WoW did. It monopolized the genre, and made it almost impossible for a unique MMO to succeed in the marketplace.

Totally agree with YK's assessment, and had similar experience with it.  I don't really hate WoW so much as I hate the effect its had on the genre.  The ironic thing is I don't think even Blizzard set out to do what they did, it seemed like they were in some ways surprised about the success as well.

To me it just feels like there is this big gap of untapped potential.  It seems like the ultimate fantasy/dream is to enter a true virtual world and experience things you normally couldn't (Holodeck), but the first steps to that kind of technology, it seems to me, are in MMORPGs, and its a shame there's little to no progress toward that end.  It seems like gamers (and thus developers) have become complacent with the status quo.
3152  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 03, 2010, 04:15:57 AM

Quote from: Gratch on January 02, 2010, 06:09:44 PM

Well, I've been at work for 6 hours now, and thankfully, the pain is almost completely gone.  I wish I wasn't so freaking exhausted, but I'm OK with being tired if it means my mouth isn't constantly throbbing.

I hear ya Gratch, and you know I definitely feel your pain!!  I really hope the pain becomes manageable and you are able to get it checked out and taken care of.  My advice is even if the pain subsides, and even though your finances are horrible (sorry), to get it checked out and resolved sooner rather than later.  Because in my experience, its very possible that left unchecked it will come back with a vengeance, and when it returns it's likely to be that much worse. 

Regarding pain meds, as Daehawk mentioned, apparently a combo of the 2 over-the-counters is supposed to work well.  I talked to an endodontist yesterday and man she sounded like she was 100% on top of her game.  She anticipated every question and treatment option before I had even spoken.  Anyway, she recommended specifically:  3 Motrin (Ibuprofen) and 2 Tylenols.  So I think that makes for 600mg of Ibuprofen and 1000mg of Acetominophen, every 6 hours.  She said she knew it sounded like a lot but to trust her.

I thought I was out of the woods as I made it through the entire night last night with no painkillers.  Sadly the pain came back today (not quite as severe as the original but bad enough that I needed ice again to calm it down), but I was too wimpy to try the full cocktail, so I did only 1 Tylenol.  It took a couple of hours to kick in but it seemed to keep me OK for about 4 or 5 hours.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed now as I am in constant fear of the pain returning.  Still have to make it another 36 hours til I can call the endodontists.
3153  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the Apple iPad? on: January 03, 2010, 04:04:09 AM
Rumors point to a January 26th announcement event involving iPods, maybe iPhone and the fabled iPad/iSlate.

I kind of get people (myself included) being skeptical about the "space" such an item might occupy.  But then again, I think some people were skeptical about the iPhone as well.  Someone else mentioned it earlier (Devil and others maybe) but Apple products have a way of being more than their specs/hardware and finding ways to mesh into your life further and deeper than you might have imagined at first.  That's one of the things that makes fans like myself become so dedicated.  For instance, I have far too many computers to talk about, but which one do I end up using the most (aside from gaming)?  My Macbook Air.  It comes with me in the bathroom, to the kitchen table, cuddled up on the sofa, outside in the yard, etc etc.  When I bought it, that really wasn't my intention, I just wanted a really lightweight yet powerful machine possibly for business travel.  Now it's defined a space of its own in my home life.

Speaking of which, this is where I can see the iPad entering people's homes and becoming a permanent fixture.  For those intangible times and locations when you didn't even think you wanted/needed a computer or internet access, it fills the slot for you.  Yes my iPhone is always with me when I'm away from home, but at home when I need to do some quick browsing I still like a larger screen.  Ditto I can imagine watching TV or reading a magazine or newspaper or book off the larger screen as well.  So what I see is something doing all the media, all the apps, all the browsing - but much more effectively.  Very likely it would become the "everywhere" machine that goes to the bathroom, kitchen, yard, sofa.  A coworker of mine suggested that during its "off" times you could leave it in a charge station and it serves a great digital photo frame to boot.  I think one of the endgame goals is to supplant newspapers and magazines as your everyday goto location for information, but with interactive touch features that make it more interesting, and of course being much more immediate.  And of course there's the possibility of being a "Kindle killer" as well.  

And last but not least, let's not forget the potential to become an incredible gaming interface/machine.  Apple themselves admitted they underestimated the iPhone's potential as a gaming machine, my guess is this time around they won't make the same mistake.  By now it's pretty clear the iPhone even in its tiny state is a pretty damn powerful portable gaming device, even running a version of the Unreal 3 engine.  Now quadruple the area to work with and you have the potential to be something that takes things to the next level.  Maybe they can team with Blizzard and make an iPad MMO smile
3154  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 02, 2010, 06:32:26 AM

Quote from: Qantaga on January 01, 2010, 11:21:17 PM

I'm sorry that you had a bad night Rittch, but I am glad to hear you made it through with your sanity. Let us know what the dentist diagnosed.

The dentist couldn't really tell for sure - he was able to rule out abscess and infection in the pulled tooth, which left what I was starting to suspect, infection in the back tooth next to the pulled one.  We both kind of agreed that it was most likely that it somehow got infected and now needs a root canal.  I thought the tooth had already had one, but he checked the X-rays and it didn't.  So long story short, looks like Monday hopefully I will get in to get the root canal done, just need to make it through the weekend.  Luckily, though the pain is still there, it's definitely subsiding as the antibiotics do their thing.  I've been able to eat more or less normally which was wonderful and I was finally able to put down the ice a couple hours ago.  Now that I kind of know where the true sensitive/infected area is, using Orajel (like Ambesol) seems to be able to help calm the nerves and numb the pain.

Thanks to you all for your attention, it helped to keep me sane yesterday when I really felt like I was losing it, and especially the well wishes from Q are/were really appreciated!  Happy New Year!!
3155  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Next Gen MMO Discussion Topics (now with SW:TOR!) on: January 02, 2010, 06:26:50 AM

Quote from: jersoc on January 01, 2010, 10:17:36 AM

here's another hint devs. WoW is NOT perfect. it has very glaring issues with it. Most notably pvp. The game is just plain broken in pvp. The balancing is a joke. 5 years later and blizzard still doesn't know how to play the classes they created. I'm amazed every patch at the stupid nerfs that happen. You want to an easy fix? Here it is. MAKE PVP AND PVE SEPARATE. Period, this isn't even up for discussion.

also bitching about questing that doesn't change anythign is assinine. no shit it doesn't. because you are playing a god damn mmo. so basically if you want that you are saying that the 100th person basically can't do shit in the game because the other 99 people did it already and changed everything. so let's so the first guild to kill arthas is it. that's it. 1 kill per server for any mob. wtf are you high or retarded? your choice because you're one of the 2 if you are seriously whining about that. the entire point of a MMO is to get improve your character and get loot. ya know, the carrot in the string that keeps player subbed. who the fucking shit would play a game where just one guild can monopolize all the loot. that's exactly what you are asking when you say that. don't be stupid, please. if you want to affect the world in an RPG, well keep praying, because not even a SP RPG has done it yet.

I'm going to agree completely with paragraph 1 regarding separating PvP and PvE.  Then again, I'm wondering if we are inherently limiting ourselves by thinking so squarely "in the box" and defining things so fixed as one or the other.  Maybe the solution is to just create as pure a combat engine as possible and work from there. 

Second paragraph, I'll just have to disagree completely - I think your whole perspective is just too limited, you're basing "quests" solely in terms of the standard paradigm of content.  Any of the sandbox games we've discussed at least have the potential to create content (a different style of course) that is exactly what you say is impossible, it's one time only.  When a group of guilds took down my guild's city in Shadowbane (inherently destroying us WAS their "quest"), that was it, the city was gone.  But even SB was still what I consider a true MMO world in its infant state, with AI advances I believe things can go so much further.  That's why I always say AI is a critical factor in next generation innovation of the genre, it can affect everything in the game to make it seem like a more real world.  If you can get the basics of a living AI engine going, the "content" should create itself, and emerge directly from the players themselves.  That's my personal vision of next gen MMO worlds, anyway.

As for affecting the world in a SP RPG?  Uhhh, it's been done plenty, most recently in Dragon Age.  You might argue the semantics, but clearly there were some things that if you chose to do or say, they would clearly affect and change the way the game/story turned out.  If you killed a particular NPC, he/she would never show up again; that's a change in the world in my book.  Granted the things that are malleable are finite and fixed in and of themselves, but as a single player gaming experience, it certainly counts (to me) in terms of a change in the final story/world outcome.  Plenty of other SP games do this, or at least create the illusion of it, I heard about one game (Way of the Samurai I think?) that does a ton of this.  Yes I realize on some level it's just a "choose your own adventure" style of gaming, but at least it's a step in the direction of creating true *consequences* to your choices and actions.
3156  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 01, 2010, 06:20:28 PM
So I survived the night, it was bad but not as bad as I thought.  I took a half an Ambien at my partner's suggestion, which didn't really put me to sleep but it finally calmed me enough mentally to stop thinking and worrying so much.  During the night I would drift off but then be awoken by pain or ice water choking me or getting on my shirt.  I finally fell asleep around 4am til around 9, which was nice.  The pain was definitely not as intense and for a moment I thought it might be gone.  But no such luck, it's back again, though not nearly as intense, so the good news is I believe the antiobiotics are working on something.  I still can't tell what they are working on though something in the "socket" as dragon mentioned or perhaps the tooth next to it.

Luckily, my dentist just called and is still willing to see me - so I'm hoping he can figure it out.  He may not be able to do much since I think he is on his own (no staff coming in) but hopefully he can at least give me some idea of what I'm dealing with.  I'm the type that hates not knowing.
3157  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: the Apple iPad? on: January 01, 2010, 06:24:23 AM

Quote from: KC on December 31, 2009, 01:56:01 AM

Aren't several other companies planning to release tablet devices in 2010?  If the software side is done well, I can see them being viable competitors with the Apple product.  The competition should give us more options and lower prices.


My guess is that competitors won't be able to match Apple in terms of user interface, and possibly also with partnerships Apple is already cultivating (with magazines and newspapers).  And if they take full advantage of existing Apps and the App Store (very likely considering Apple has asked some vendors to prepare a "full screen" demo), Apple will again have a huge advantage in the applications and games departments.

But - as is ever the way with Apple - I also predict their initial entry price will be very steep (and very criticized) by a lot of people.  I'm thinking something like $799 or $899, maybe even more.
3158  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Excruciating Tooth(less)ache - any thoughts? on: January 01, 2010, 06:19:33 AM

Quote from: Teggy on January 01, 2010, 05:29:31 AM

There was at least one dentist on this board - can't remember his name. Left dentistry to become a lawyer or something.

I think that was Eightball but I haven't seen him around in ages.
3159  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Wanderers - Starting "Group-centric" MMORPG experiment (EQ2 Rebirth!) on: January 01, 2010, 04:52:12 AM
BAM!!!!

We are going full (well maybe half) steam ahead with this starting this week, come join in on the fun!!

www.the-wanderers-guild.com

for all the excruciating details that weren't posted here.




P.S.  I apologize for being out of touch on the "launch" of the project, between the holidays, getting sick and now this awesome toothache from hell (see Off Topic) it's been a pretty crappy couple of weeks and I haven't had a solid block of time to logon.  Hopefully once we get started in earnest, things will go a bit more smoothly.
3160  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Dollhouse Season 2 on: January 01, 2010, 04:47:26 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 31, 2009, 03:32:24 PM

Quote from: Turtle on December 31, 2009, 03:15:04 PM

Strangely enough, Joss does a good job of finding new-ish talent.  He does use a lot of actors he's already worked with, but that's probably because they mesh well with his style and they're friends.

Yeah, sometimes I think he should work as casting director for other shows.  He really has an impeccable eye.  Even with Dollhouse he has now discovered Enver Gjokja and Dimen Lachman and I hope to see them on roles on other shows. 

I definitely agree the 2 of them are awesome finds (that's Victor and Sierra right?).  In a better world, Dollhouse would have had awesome ratings and they could have spunoff onto their own show slywink  Really hope they can find new work soon.
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