All I was trying to say is that I would have rather see him in jail then hear people say they are glad he is dead.

Ok, more along the topic lines, either way the guy was a jerk that screwed his investors and his employees.  For this I have no sympathy.  I think that we all agree on this despite different political affiliations.  I agree that I would rather see him in jail than dead.  I am never happy to hear that someone dies because you have to remember that they have a family.  Some of you will say that I am standing up for him and I am not at all.  I would just have rather seen him in jail (where he belongs) then in a premature grave in his mid 60’s.

Yup, I will be on a lot I am sure.  I have been playing over g so if I am in game just drop me an invite and I would join up!

 Sony's been the clear winner in press coverage.  

I think that you are right, Sony has been the big winner of press coverage.  The problem with that is this is negative press.  That is the only reason they are getting coverage at all.  If sony was putting out a good quality product (yeah right on the PS 3) this would be a whole different story.  All of the press Sony has been getting just makes me glad that I don't want to own a PS 3!  Too many problems!

yeah soulchilde I will be up to play, I don't work or have to go home or anything, so if you are on and I am on and you still want to play, I am up for it, I have been playing by myself lately with infinite respawns because you are right you need atleast 4 people (although Jarrod and I have beaten Coffee plantion just the two of us with no respawns)

and yet another reason that there is no way I would buy a PS3

I haven't had any problems I have just heard a lot of complaints about 360's not working after downloading the DLC.  I was hoping that it was a few isolated incidents and wasn't something that I was going to have to deal with.

For some reason tilt control isn't that big of a deal for me, and I would actually find it annoying.  I never have like or owned any playstations.  I just think it is funny that sony keeps finding ways to screw themselves with the PS 3.

Is anyone having problems with their 360 since/after they downloaded the new graw DLC?

Ok, so I have been browsing the xbox forums on xbox.com and apparently there are talks of Ubi releasing another update to correct two issues: one walking through bolders and the other to add the achievement points.  However, I have also heard that 1000 points is the max that you can get, all graw has is 925 so there are 75 pts to spare.  I don't know, this could happen and it might not, Personally I dont' care, I just think that it is werid to update and update just after it was released.

I'm confused about something here.  Are there single player levels included?  I was under the impression that it's just multi and that some of that is co-op.

To my knowledge all the new material is multiplayer.  The main portion of which are the new multiplayer campaign missions which are played over live.

It does suck but as jarrod said we have already had a lot of fun with the content.  It sucks that we spent about 2 hrs beating the first mission, (just the 2 of us), and got no points!!! It sucks but the maps have been really really fun.  If anyone is on in about an hour and half I will probably be playing.

Ok, Jarrodhk and I noticed there are no achievement points!!! I mean not to complain but it would still be nice to get some points!

Yup, I was able to get it downloaded this morning around 6:30 and it went really fast, Last night just was a bad night for marketplace, it makes me reconsider getting DLC when it first comes out.  Everyone was having issues, I was on hold with customer service for 148 min last night and just got so mad I hung up and went to sleep.  Regardless Microsoft needs to get things figured out before they release more/popular DLC.

what the heck is going on, it has taken 3 hrs to download the dlc and now it doesn't work!!!!!!!

Anyone else have any problems, i have been on hold with support for 76 min so I am assuming that it isn't just me!  Let me know if you know something, I am tired of holding this phone to my ear!

I give up 148 min with the phone in my ear listening to nothing but elevator music!!!!! Boring- Someone let me know if you hear what we need to do to fix this problem with the DLC, I am starting to think those who said don't get it were right!!!

Wow, I am actually buying the DLC, the only problem is after an hour I am only at 10% LAME!!!!

Found it! Now whether or not to buy!

Nice, I personally love the daily show and think that John Stewart is funny.  I also agree with what he was talking about with parents standing behind their kids watching them play games and being powerless to do anything.  Here is a tip---- DON"T BUY YOUR KID A GAME IF YOU DON"T KNOW WHAT IT IS.  I don't know of any young kids that carry the $60 around for a 360 game that they don't get from their parents.  If they flip the cover over on the back, using BF2 as an example, it says "T- teen, Language Violence"  A- you should know that your kid isn't a teen or B- if you don't want to expose your kid to language and violence don't buy the game.  I don't know how it could be any clearer in the rating what is included in the game.  Personally I wouldn't mind some of the more violent games being rated like movies- 17 to get in an R, 13-pg13, and so on.  I would just find it annoying to show an id to get a game!

Ok, I am having problems with PM's.  I am at 20 posts and have lost the welcome to gaming trend tag.  It still says that the admin has prevented me from sending PM's.  I am still short on posts?

Ok, i must be an idiot because i can't find it released in marketplace??!!

I too will probably get it because i play with soulchilde and jarrodhk but it still sucks and I really was hoping that they didn't screw their loyal game players.

Ya but how did it get confirmed that it is 1200 pts?

If it is out, I can't find it!!!!

Ok, Jarrodhk sent me another link on my 360 but I don't see it posted anywhere on here.  Apparently the people at Ubisoft have an event planned on live with the new DLC this friday.  I know, I didn't believe it either until I went to these links.  First the forum on xbox,

http://forums.xbox.com/4998810/ShowPost.aspx

Next, http://www.ubi.com/US/Events/Info.aspx?eId=65

So we will see when it comes out, but I am thinking, as well as others, that if ubi has an event planned around this content that it is probably gong to be released soon!!!!

Good find Jarrod

what is the deal with these cards.  Do they get you constant discounts at places or does it change regularly?

OK so jarrodhk passed this on to me and I don't know if anyone else has found this.  On live Market place under media and entertainment then game trailers is a downloadable trailer for the new DLC.  I haven't looked at it yet so I don't know if it is the exact same as the stuff on the internet, but it is worth a look.  Thanks for sending that to me Jarrodhk.

Please tell me that this is not an attempt to bring back the annoying days when people would run around yelling wassssssup!!  Although I have to admit, it is alot of fun.

Wow nice jump suits and shades.  I know I don't have fashion sense but...wow that is bad

OK, I have heard sooooooo many different dates for when the new DLC is going to be released.  Other than by the end of the month, does anyone have any solid information as to when the DLC is going to be avaliable as well as what they will be charging for this content?

See I don't know if I would find that usefull.  I rarely ever spend that much at gamestop at once.  I mean 360 games are only 60 and that is about all I spend at once.  I wish that they would have done something like 5 off 60, that would be more benificial, atleast for myself and other poor college students like myself!

I don't know what the next game I am going to buy will be.  I doubt that it is going to be anything anytime soon.

The only problem with that thought is that both the pistol and the mp5 shoot the same round!  The mp5 is just more accurate at distance.

ahhh, but the mp5 shoots them FASTER!  more bullets is almost as good as bigger bullets, MWAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. *ahem*  i think i'll stick with my big guns.

That is probably a good idea, although Jarrodhk and I have been fun trying new guns and new tactics which is actually really fun to do!

mp5 i might do...not pistols, bleh.  they're just so...small...  i have this thing against guns with bullets smaller than my index finger.

The only problem with that thought is that both the pistol and the mp5 shoot the same round!  The mp5 is just more accurate at distance.

Hey, when I try to send a PM it says, "Sorry, but the administrator has prevented you from sending private messages."  why?

Ok, so I talked myself into playing tonight.  I am going to be on GRAW around 12 am CST.  I am probably going to be playing pistols and MP5-sd so if anyone wants to play- send me an invite

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Also we have expanded our pistols only experience and now have a game type with the mp5-sd.  This is a fun gun to use, especially with the 3 round burst option.  No scopes make it a little more challenging, however, makes it more fun.  Recommend you all try this!!!

It also helps to have someone with nades right there as well.  It is fun to blow that humvee up!  Don't recommed taking the level on with only snipers, jarrod and I had fun trying to nail that driver with scopes, not impossible but kinda hard

It is great that he wants to help out the world, I just don't see him stepping back and handing his company to someone else.  I bet he will still throw his weight around, we will just hear about stuff from other talking heads and just not as much from Gates.

Ok, hearing that the new maps are susposed to be out soon (yeah right believe it when it happens), how much is too much to pay for the new content?