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81  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: City of Heroes to go F2P in the near future on: December 04, 2011, 05:05:31 PM
they extended the 99cent vip kits... last day is 12/5 (tomorrow)...  jump aboard either virtue or freedom server!
82  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Herman Cain "reassessing" candidacy after affair claim on: December 04, 2011, 12:11:39 AM
i honestly think he was just trying to build some pub for his books and radio/speaking engagements... when the campaign took off it was almost like he was like "wtf? really?"

whatever he does next... he shouldn't do a nazi broadway play - it would probably make millions!

guess whats half off today?
83  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Another person accuses Hermain Cain of sexual harassment! on: December 04, 2011, 12:08:33 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on November 29, 2011, 04:33:07 AM

Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) -- An Atlanta businesswoman has accused GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain of having had an affair with her that lasted nearly 14 years, a claim the candidate flatly denied Monday.

"I was aware that he was married, and I was also aware that I was involved in a very inappropriate situation -- relationship," Ginger White told Atlanta television station WAGA.

White said that affair ended about eight months ago, as Cain prepared to announce his presidential bid. But she pointed to mobile-phone records she said showed Cain was calling her as late as September, including one as early as 4:26 a.m.

WAGA said that when it sent a text message to the number she identified as Cain's, the candidate called back and acknowledged he knew White but had been trying to help her financially.

how was that situation harassment?  And if he is helping her financially... why did she have a "need" to come out publically?  I guess you can only rent silence (from one of my favorite movies - Zero Effect)
84  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Gingrich: Child Labors Laws to Restrictive on: December 04, 2011, 12:04:16 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on November 21, 2011, 09:11:28 PM

During a Harvard address on Friday, Gingrich blamed child labor restrictions for doing “more to create income inequality in the United States than any other single policy.” “It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in…child laws, which are truly stupid,” said Gingrich.

“Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school,” he added. “The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”

now, honestly, would you have wanted to be the janitor at your high school while you were a student?

And no one mentions what happens to the high school diploma carrying janitor's family?

f'em, i guess?

damn dirty unions... those guys should all be working two jobs instead of the one that pays them enough to support their family?
85  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / my messages = 1 (but no message when i click on it) on: November 26, 2011, 12:23:18 AM
This happened a couple of times recently... i have sent a pm to someone, then surf the forum for awhile then look up and see that there is an indicator saying i have a new message

I click on my messages and when it opens there is no new message

does that make sense?
86  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Refurb computers on: November 25, 2011, 12:08:31 AM
after a lot of thought... i am actually considering picking up a refurb during one of the black friday sales at newegg or amazon (at least they are semi-reputable sites)

Has anyone here bought refurbs?  any horror stories?  there was a sale earlier for 2core with windows 7 and the typical out fittings for $170 on newegg for awhile (i am regretting not pulling the trigger on that one)

originally i was on the look out for a mb/cpu/memory replacement/upgrade for my 6yo old computer (single core bad graphics)... but now that i am seeing some of these sales... refurbs are actually looking more attractive.

(example of the type of system i am talking about --- but a little higher than some of the others i have seen)

appreciate any feedback
87  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Do routers just become shitty over time? on: November 24, 2011, 08:26:14 PM
this probably wont be your issue... but slashdot story that is interesting

"About 200 customers of the Central Maine Power Company recently noticed something odd after the utility installed smart meters in their homes: household electronics, including wireless devices, stopped working, or behaved erratically. Many Smart Meters broadcast in the 2.4GHz frequency range. Unfortunately, so do many of the consumer gadgets we take for granted these days including routers, electric garage doors, fire alarms, clocks, electric pet fences, answering machines, and baby monitors — even medical devices. The electromagnetic congestion in the home is in some ways similar to the growing electro
88  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: City of Heroes to go F2P in the near future on: November 23, 2011, 06:11:40 AM
black friday sale for vip starter kits... 99 cents
89  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: City of Heroes to go F2P in the near future on: November 19, 2011, 03:29:51 AM
I will have to start something on virtue... looks like my other toons are on freedom (highest is 14th level).

when i first logged in i thought i would be able to transfer them since there were messages about global slots needing to be unlocked, but it doesn't look like transfers are included

ps - lulz it has been forever since i played this game... i run over to the entrance to "the hollows" and try to change locations by running into the invisible barrier by the two cops... no go. I remember it being something simple to change zones but can't for the life of my figure it out (every other game in the world you run into the invisible wall and it changes zones!)

ps2 - i have a group called the infinity group on freedom if anyone wants an invite pm me (it is not built out at all just started it two years ago to have the free alt costume)
90  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: City of Heroes to go F2P in the near future on: November 18, 2011, 09:01:42 PM

Quote from: morlac on October 06, 2011, 09:50:59 PM

This has been live for about a week now for anyone interested.  I and a good friend reloaded to replay some of our old Hero duo's.
i redownloaded (i played for a few months a year or two ago)... looks like there are 4 global slots (up to 2 heroes per server for freebies?)

what server are you guys spending most of your time on?  what type are your mains? (i have an old magic tank and a flying ranged guy)

anyone have a supergroup?
91  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Video Card Advice needed... AGP (and some low price mb/cpu talk) on: November 09, 2011, 12:19:02 AM

Thanks for the heads up guys... whenever i did a quick search in the past it made me think a new mb/cpu would be out of the question (i guess because most expensive comes to the top by default alot of the time)

I will sign up for the news letter but definitely post any good deals you might see (or pm me if you like)
92  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Video Card Advice needed... AGP on: November 04, 2011, 01:15:49 PM

Quote from: Calavera on November 04, 2011, 01:08:23 PM

I think that getting an AGP card would be crazy at this point, you'll spend the money, but it won't go toward something you can use later.

Current integrated cards should be in the same range as what you've already got.
i absolutely understood that but i was hoping to get more life (even a year or two) out of my current computer for the 50-80 range (thinking that new mb and cpu combos would be in the $200-300 range).  The question then becomes:

spending 50-80 now and then getting  a new computer in a year or two
spending 100-200 now and getting a new computer in a year or two

and that is the puzzler for me.

I would imagine those integrated video cards are better than my current card?  whoops missed you addressed that in my first read through

thanks for mentioning the CHEAP mb/cpu combos - i will have to think about it (my concern there is that I would simply be getting a better system anyways in a year or two - but you are right in the fact that at least i would be buying components that can transfer or were re-usable).

Quote from: Calavera on November 04, 2011, 01:08:23 PM

If you can wait until the end of the month, Newegg usually puts together some good combos on the cheap
would those be christmas specials you are talking about or normal new combos of the month?

for those that follow them - does newegg or tiger direct have a history of offering christmas clearance specials like the gaming sites? (i am referring to insane specials... your crazy not to buy them specials)

Also... can one of the vid card gurus comment on the spec comparison above?  am i reading it wrong that the hd3650 is the better performance card? between the two of them (never mind they wouldn't be considered "gaming" cards)

ps - my plan for any upgrade at this point is to keep running XP, harddrive, and using my big old box with a 500W PS.
ps2 - i think i saw on cnbc that either thailand flooding or japan earthquake will be affecting memory prices... anyone see that yet?
93  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Video Card Advice needed... AGP (and some low price mb/cpu talk) on: November 04, 2011, 04:09:27 AM
cross posted at the wanderers, but i figured more traffic was here...

After 3 years of wanting a new card but holding off until i buy a new system, it REALLY looks like no new system is in the cards for me.   My current computer was put together maybe around 2004(?): ooooold Athlon 64 , AGP 8x all-in-wonder-9600-pro-card.  It was never the greatest system but it held up well over the years... My only gaming disappointment was civ5, which prompted my search for a new video card (never realizing until much later that my cpu might be a problem with that game as well)

So... I started shopping around for AGP cards to go into my current old old box...

narrowed down between
Ati HD 3650 1gb ddr2
Ati HD 4350 512mb ddr3

I ended up buying the 4350 on amazon a few hours ago

it wasn't until i saw this website that I started getting serious buyers remorse

while they didn't have an AGP version of the 4350 to compare straight up, I was kind of shocked that the newer (lol !!!) Ati series video board would seem to have worse stats than the 3650

ATi Radeon HD 4350
Core Clock:   600 MHz
Shader Clock:   600 MHz
Memory Clock:   500 MHz (1000 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth:   8 GB/sec
Pixel Fill Rate:   2400 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate:   4800 MTexels/sec

ATi Radeon HD 3650 AGP
Core Clock:   725 MHz
Shader Clock:   725 MHz
Memory Clock:   800 MHz (1600 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth:   25.6 GB/sec
Pixel Fill Rate:   2900 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate:   5800 MTexels/sec

and then to top it all off all the user comments from 2 years ago on various sites saying neither were gaming cards!! lol

Luckily Amazon let me cancel the order...

Seriously... what would be a decent video card (for an old AMD 64 Athlon system)
i currently have this video card

it plays all the games I want on lower settings: guildwars, lotr, team fortress 2 etc with almost no delay or problem (except once in a while Guildwars will make the screen go fuzzy).

my big disappointment is not being able to play civ V and some other newer games that require newer shaders or open gl 2.

while it is not a "gaming card" do you think the HD3650 would be worth purchasing?  (i have seen refurbs go for less than $50)

Also, what is the comparable nvidea card series- agp wise?

And before you say - buy a new computer or new mb and cpu, I just don't see that being a possibility for less than $100

Appreciate any comments on any of the cards above (former owners?) or recommendations for a reasonably priced upgrade that might let me give some of the newer games a try (shader 4 and gl2)

94  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: League of Legends - Free to Play on: September 30, 2011, 03:01:27 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on September 26, 2011, 09:07:59 PM

I'm having a blast, and the shorter games make a big difference.  Not sure I'll play much if any SR again.

Eve is back!

i am approx 21-12 in dominion with teemo... loving this game mode - hoping ranked in dominion won't blow (but i don't have high hopes)

had a 6 minute game because of an afk on other team - worst length game is in the 24 minute mark (and i think that was when we made a big comeback and ended up with our countdown points at 6 or so)  - the vast majority have been between 15-20minutes (one of the reasons i focused on Twisted  Treeline is that it is potentially shorter than rift, but the nature of gamers seems to be to drag out the game into 50 minute marathons whenever possible - dominion does NOT allow people to drag out the game too far past 20 minutes)

I wish they had thunk outside the box like this with twisted treeline (starting higher level or special items or whatever)

the most repeatably successful strategy I have had is 3 go top - i take mid then ghost top (to finish off enemy or cap point while my team is fighting) - the other guy takes bot and holds...

then i stay at top to hold with mushrooms for a bit before i go back to buy

where it all falls apart sometimes is when people insist on going for the 4th point capture when they aren't strong enough.  res happens so fast that when the enemy come up to defend the 4th point its easy because they are full from just being revived while my team is half health.

the biggest repeatable mistake i see people make is not hitting people that are capping the point... the slightest damage from a champ will knock them out of capture  (so hit multiple people then run back to make them chase you through the point and then go back to hit them again)
95  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GPRO (Grand Prix Racing Online) - browser based game on: June 23, 2011, 04:02:09 PM
FYI - new season starting up... I will probably be moving on to another team within a season or so... so if you want to join up and get some tips and take over the team give a shout.
96  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Game of Thrones TV series starts now! on: June 19, 2011, 03:48:05 PM
Took a quick glance through the thread and didn't see this link

DO NOT click link if you haven't seen episode 9 yet...

pretty funny but it seems a little fake... (the dude holding the camera comments make me laugh)

"they liiiiiieeed to him!"

even if it is fake... i think that if youtube was as widespread as it is now when the first book came out... I think there would be several authentic good versions of this type of reaction.

maybe there should be a film documentary that films people reading the series (and then just show the highlights of when they get to the good parts)
97  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Big Man is now playing with the big band in the sky on: June 19, 2011, 06:34:05 AM
98  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Charlie Sheen - Fired by Warner Bros on: April 30, 2011, 04:43:26 AM
my 2.5 reboot:
what is that kid now 20?  he knocks up his girlfriend and now he is the man (the half man comes down the pike in 9 months)
99  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GPRO (Grand Prix Racing Online) - browser based game on: April 04, 2011, 05:39:47 PM
looks like the team is losing a couple of members... a new season is starting in a couple of weeks give a shout if interested in joining the team
100  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Pirates of the Burning Sea getting free expansion and going Free to Play! on: December 05, 2010, 04:57:24 PM
so has anyone setup a society yet (i assume the old pay members have one?)

currently playing french on the EU server and brit on the antigua server (but willing to switch to another either french or spanish - i like french only because it seems to be least populated and i prefer to fight from an underdog position)
101  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Pirates of the Burning Sea getting free expansion and going Free to Play! on: December 01, 2010, 05:06:05 PM

Quote from: Gryndyl on November 30, 2010, 04:42:23 PM

They flipped the F2P switch to 'ON' today, for those that have been waiting for this. Although their website now says that the result of this flipping of the switch killed the servers (servers: OMGWTF...players? Logging in? CRASH DIVE!!!) and that they won't be back up until 4 PST or so so you might want to just relax about playing today.

it amazes me that companies can still be surprised by this... even after it came up --- MAJOR avatar warping in the begining area

do we have a society up and running?

(it would seem to me that the lightly populated french or spanish would be susceptible to allowing a solid group of players from here or OO gaining the governor slot of a town)
102  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GPRO (Grand Prix Racing Online) - browser based game on: December 01, 2010, 05:03:38 PM
first market tomorrow and first race next tuesday... we have two spots available on the team to people that post here and/or OO
103  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Elemental: War of Magic on: November 22, 2010, 07:19:06 PM

Quote from: TiLT on October 12, 2010, 08:50:44 PM

It always worries me when someone in a design position isn't even slightly open to criticism, and in fact lash out angrily at it.
sounds like a good fit for the company?


good to hear that the game is getting on track
104  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: APB closes on: September 22, 2010, 09:09:33 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on September 18, 2010, 01:34:32 AM

Luke Halliwell, who was apparently a Technical Lead at RTW, has some informative blog posts up addressing where they went wrong.  part 1, part 2, part 3

Some parts of it sound depressingly familiar  icon_neutral

Press interest was built by incredibly elaborately-constructed demos, choreographed with clockwork precision.  Our team of QA ninjas trained night and day so as to be able to act out the same scripted combat scenario on demand (they were actually pretty impressive to watch doing this!).  At first, the press would just watch these sessions as examples of “live” gameplay.  Later, they’d be allowed to join in, but would be so outnumbered by our staff that they would be forced to stay on the rails of our script.

w o w - why do companies think fraud is a great demo?  (i have seen this personally as well)
105  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GOG closing shop? Say it ain't so! on: September 22, 2010, 12:15:47 PM
I could only imagine the netroar that would occur if we replaced the GOG in the title of this thread with... Steam
106  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: LoTRO Server Info on: September 19, 2010, 11:58:25 PM
hey scraper i signed up for the guild website but have not gotten the confirmation email to let me into the forums
107  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: D&D Online Free to Play! on: September 19, 2010, 11:56:39 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on September 17, 2010, 04:44:26 AM

Ok Im in the same boat and need advice. i beta'd the game but never bought it. Now I have the free version and need starting info help. The classes/races I really wanted are not part of the f2p version. Like I wanted to be a golem guy warrior..cant...wanted to be a what do I do? I dont really worry about solo play because as i recall it was a group based game. my worry is each class was expected to know each dungeon and do their part at the right place / time or get bitched at.

Would a caster of some type be best or a melee type? ...race?

Also a server i should play on? I picked the recommended one..Orien or something..can still change I think. And how many characters do we get?

i think 2 characters per server unless you are premium then you get 4 (iirc)

trying to restart the wanderer guild on khyber (pm me your toon name if interested) - we try to favor runs occassionally to get to 400 favor so you can get the free drow for that server...

highly recommend the ddo class forums to get some ideas for max/min builds for 28point toons (what you get to start --- later you can unlock 32point toons)

i am using this one as a guide for my dwarven barb

there are others that are well thought of... check out the class forums for more ideas.
108  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: LotRO goes Free to PLay on: September 11, 2010, 01:59:18 PM
New to the game (only played in the recent beta - got a dwarf champ upto 15th level in the last month or so - now i wish i did warden which is now unavailable to ftp)... i am not sure if i got a premium account from being in the beta or if it was from me being in DDO as a premium.

I remember talk of turbine points being awarded to beta players - did that happen?  (i got zero).

Quote from: MaxSteele on September 06, 2010, 10:48:03 PM

I received several cards which have codes for Turbine Points in LOTRO.  As soon as I verify they can be used on existing accounts and not new accounts only, we'll have a few giveaways. smile
is there a sign up list?  sign me up please

As a tip to ftp only players... if you stay in the  intro area until level 5 (iirc its a 5th level quest) there is a 10tp bonus quest (once per server - in archet it is given in the hunting lodge)...  for those looking to grind out tp points instead of paying - its an easy way to add 10*number of servers tp to your total (just don't buy the item that the 10tp quest provides smile )
109  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: LoTRO Server Info on: September 11, 2010, 01:50:06 PM
Notrich (pronounced nah-trish smile ) noobing it up on the Landroval server and the Elendilmir
110  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GPRO (Grand Prix Racing Online) - browser based game on: September 11, 2010, 01:42:45 PM
last three races of the season start on tuesday... probably a good time to test out if you like the game

We save spots on the team for regular posters here at GT and at OO

Our team helps new people and returning vets and we have 3 spots available (if you played in the past and were confused about how to get the most out of your car and money - i put out a "cheatsheet" each season to help out the team)

referral link (gives me some credits and puts you on my top of my list of people I help smile )

non referral link

The surviving members of our last recruitment drive are solidly in amatuer and on their way to pro (except one who will be promoting to amateur in a fairly strong position)
111  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Starz] The Pillars of the Earth on: July 24, 2010, 06:23:12 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 24, 2010, 06:25:59 AM

so, anyone catch this tonight?  Part one was on tonight (I imagine it will be on Netflix instant too soon if not already) but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.  the previews looked good, and it's got Ian McShane, even though I doubt he character will be going on about cocksuckers  icon_lol

It was pretty good... regarding your last part - I find it hard to believe that someone has not put up some "modified" scenes from this series with some overdubs from the cocksucker series.
112  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Guy beats the Price is Right on: July 15, 2010, 02:46:52 PM
here is an interview with the guy

and esquire article linked in comments

if only drew showed some emotion...
113  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GPRO (Grand Prix Racing Online) - browser based game on: July 13, 2010, 04:52:59 AM
last two races of the season start tomorrow... still looking for someone to fill a spot on the team - looking for long time members from here or OO.

also a reminder to people that stopped playing - if you put your car in one of these last two races it will keep your account allive for next season if you decide to play otherwise it will likely reset if you are at the lower levels and havent raced in a while.

Tokek (i think) is in the running for team roty - keep up the good work!
114  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Fallout Online website up on: June 19, 2010, 05:59:45 AM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 16, 2010, 09:49:15 AM

it asked me which interplay Fallout i preferred Fallout 1,Fallout 2 or Fallout i have not played any,so i clicked on fallout 2
let me congratulate you in advance for getting into the beta   tear
115  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GPRO (Grand Prix Racing Online) - browser based game on: June 02, 2010, 04:16:02 PM
Just a reminder that the new season has started and our team has been doing pretty decent... most of the new players have either promoted to amatuer or are well on their way to promotion in their second season...

no spots on the team at this point (and those spots are reserved for long time members of OO and GT)

but if you use my referral link (up above) - I will do my best to help you in the game (if you don't click the referral link - I will do my best to help you in the game when i am not helping the people that clicked it smile )

feel free to pm me or post here with questions (I also enjoy helping players pick out new drivers) - if you post with a question be sure to copy all relevant info associated with the question.

Even though we are on race 5 of the season - it is a good time to join since there are often plenty of good drivers available and there is no crazy bidding wars... so give the game a shot if you like racing management games (and only want to start out with a 2 hour time commitment per week)

ps - clanwolfer - you might be in danger of losing your sponsors if you miss a third race... if you can't log in to setup the car try to login to put it on holiday to jan or dave (i am currently watching someone elses acct)
116  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Free Realms opens Tuesday on: May 25, 2010, 02:16:31 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on April 29, 2010, 11:57:34 PM

a look back at the first year.

i saw the video - is this just a collection of mini-games?  it looks like there is a pirate portion of some type - is it fun (to play as a pirate)?  Do you buy a pirate ship or make it (or what)?
117  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Nigel Farage - how come you Brits didn't let us know about this guy? on: May 24, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
that was tremendous!!!

here is another good one - that dude looks like he has a bunch of youtube vids up for our pure enjoyment

another one

118  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Football Manager 2010 Free to play on Steam this weekend on: May 24, 2010, 11:41:05 AM
tried it for the weekend... i liked the older soccor manager games where you could sim through time faster...

this one even during the off-season you had to press continue for each week during the offseason (reading emails and stuff)

I like being more of a handsoff day to day operations coach/gm (pick the overall team strategy, pick up players for that strategy, and then automate through the majority of the season).

If it was $10, i probably would have bought it...

119  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Torchlight, a follow-up to Fate and Mythos on: May 24, 2010, 11:28:18 AM

Quote from: Razgon on May 19, 2010, 09:02:13 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on May 19, 2010, 02:57:04 PM

Quote from: jersoc on May 19, 2010, 05:58:12 AM

uh...they just got 8.4 million. i think they are good for a few years.

You'd be surprised how quickly that much money can go away.  Even if you only have 20 people on staff, say they average a salary of 50k, you're spending a million dollars a year just on salaries.  Then you have to take into account computers and other equipment, software licenses, building maintenance, etc etc. 

Certainly $8.4 million is a good amount of money, but if you start growing the team or have more senior level people with higher salaries or need to delay release you can see that quickly getting eaten up.

but, eh - if they have been bought, shouldnt their paychecks come from Perfect World?
That is what I was thinking -

The next time you see someone daintily stepping out of his Ferrari, wearing a baggy fur track suit and unaware of the effect his lordly display of emerald necklaces hung from his ten normal fingers plus his golden extra robot finger is having on all the fine, foxy people... it will be Travis?

stolen from...
120  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Torchlight, a follow-up to Fate and Mythos on: May 19, 2010, 12:59:11 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 19, 2010, 12:37:19 AM

"At the same time Perfect World Entertainment announced  an $8.4 million deal that saw them acquire a majority holding of Runic: "

good for them!  (now those guys need to start buying lamborghini's and trips to outer space = we needz to pump this economah!)
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