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3721  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: NHL 07 Dynasty... change goalies? on: March 05, 2007, 06:17:56 AM
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3722  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: Wireless router for consoles on: March 04, 2007, 09:23:42 PM
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3723  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Rudy vs Hillary? on: March 04, 2007, 03:50:52 AM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on March 04, 2007, 01:24:01 AM

I'm not sure if we're supposed to be discussing R&P yet, but...

As of today, it's allowed.  Today is the 1 month mark.  Just keep things civil and we'll all be fine.
3724  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: March 02, 2007, 06:49:16 PM


















3725  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Battlefield: Bad Company on: March 02, 2007, 01:36:03 AM
Man, I've been saying this since BF1942, this needs to have destructable buildings.  Is this only a console game?
3726  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Live Arcade Wednesday - Alien Hominid HD on: March 02, 2007, 01:18:39 AM

Quote from: Hetz on March 02, 2007, 12:31:11 AM

Quote from: jblank on March 02, 2007, 12:21:23 AM

Quote from: Hetz on March 02, 2007, 12:11:33 AM

Quote from: warning on March 01, 2007, 10:44:45 PM

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on March 01, 2007, 09:15:20 PM

Quote from: warning on March 01, 2007, 04:44:22 PM

Hetz - Your insistence on having the last word whenever these things come up means your stay here will (unfortunately) be very short.  I'd suggest you make a decision to not respond at all when these snipefests come up if you want to continue posting here.

I'll never understand this "blame the victim" approach to moderating. You should go after the trolls who start the whole mess in the first place, not the people who rise to the bait.

And we do and will continue to.  Be aware that you only see what is discussed in public.

Since we're already talking about this in public and since Hetz is calling me out (at least I assume I'm the mod he's referring to - I'm egotistical that way) for wanting him banned I'll talk frankly for a moment.

There's two problems going on here:  First there's Hetz's tendency to start a controversial topic, sit back and watch the flames and when someone critiques him for doing it he responds with either an innocent-looking "Who me?" or else gets upset and complains people are picking on him.  It's a rather sophisticated type of trolling/baiting but it's still trolling/baiting.   If you call yourself a victim enough then you can probably get away with things a lot longer.

Second is the fact that two people need to be involved for an argument to happen.  There's been way too many threads (like this one for example) that degenerate quickly into arguing and useless back-and-forth sniping.  Hetz, just like everyone else, needs to do his part to keep the forums a friendly place to visit.  We expect that if you have a personal issue then you need to address it personally not publicly.  Arguing with someone in front of an audience is lame - if there's a personal issue you deal with it directly and privately.  Hetz, as well as others, have been warned about this repeatedly.  It's a very clear behavior expectation that we have - you either ignore baiting from others or you address it privately.  Don't clutter up the forums with it.

That said, I have no issue with Hetz personally.  He seems like a knowledgeable, likable guy.  I don't want to see him banned and really don't want to see anyone banned.  When someone gets involved with moderation the goal is not to "have a hard-on to get rid of him" but to help him figure out a way to post that keeps this place a fun and enjoyable place to hang out for everyone.  We're probably a lot more tolerant of CoC problems than some places and some other places are probably a lot more tolerant than we are.

First off, it wasn't you that I was specifically refering to, so rest easy. smile

Second, I didn't know that it was wrong to start a "controversial" topic...which seems to mean anything that could be negative about the Xbox 360, lately. I didn't think that was in the CoC. Also, I don't get mad when people attack my MESSAGE. They can bash the PS3 or 360 or Wii until they are blue in the face and I won't get mad. What I do get mad at is when they attack ME. That IS against the CoC, yet certain people CONSTANTLY do it. Tell me why you think that Xbox Live has rocked the last month and that you think it's great....not how you think my head is up my ass and dozens of other personal attacks that have come my way. THAT is the problem here, not the fact that I post "controversial" things. People don't seem to know how to have a discussion without getting personal. But of course, it must be ol' Hetz's fault cause he should know better than to post something negative about the 360 here....but lets get some more of those hysterical songs about how the PS3 is failing!

I just don't know what the hell to say anymore. I don't post the cat picture and people wonder where it is and say it's just not the same....then I bring it back and you saw what happened last week. Seriously....wtf!

Not attacking you or anything, but sentences like I bolded above, do nothing but perpetuate the belief that you are extremely biased against the 360, and enjoy flaming the system. I don't know of a single time where anyone told you that the 360 was off limits or that it was fine to constantly trash the PS3. I do though think its hypocritical, to an extent, to ignore a lot of the negatives associated with the PS3, while bashing the 360 for some very trivial things.

By saying stuff like you said above, it just fans the flames though buddy, thats all we're saying to ya. Don't leave though, ok?

I was posting that to show the double standard that exists in the forum. Did Tebunker get a warning for posting that "controversial" topic? I doubt it. I post negative things about the 360 cause nobody else does. There are plenty of people here that post about the PS3's flaws though, so I think that base is covered. Oh and I don't post only negative things anyway....heck just in this thread I praised MS for releasing this game. I also said I really liked Crackdown and was looking forward to that. Anyway, I don't want to leave....but it is tough when everything you post is constantly met with somekind of backhanded attack. But then when I say "knock it off" or "that is not funny", I get a warning and told I won't be long for this forum.  icon_confused

I locked it and replied so Hetz couldn't get the last word Tongue  That's a joke Hetz. Tongue

First, I'm sure you think I'm out to get you.  That's far from the truth.  I have always enjoyed your contributions.  I wish I had the expendable income that you have and be able to get all the latest gadgets.  It was fun reading your console launch experience and your play by plays.  I don't want to see you banned, or to voluntarily leave the forum.  I don't think anyone here wants that.

What we want is for everyone to stop trying to get a rise out of Hetz or others, and we also want people to show some constraint when one is being baited and just report it.  We see your reports and we handle it.  Not always publicly. 

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I didn't know that it was wrong to start a "controversial" topic

It's not always wrong to start a controversial topic.  If you're trying to be a troll about it, then yes, you might want to think about it before posting.  But you're current thread that you are referring to isn't something that was an issue.

For this thread there are two issues that are being discussed.  It's people trying to get a rise out you. (rrmorton's post, even if it's being sarcastic)  If I remember correctly you reported it.  But barely a minute later after you filed that report, you just had to respond.  It kind of defeats the purpose of reporting it.  Let the mods deal with it.  Trust me, if I had enough time to respond, I would have and would the other mods.  But you didn't allow that.

However after that things tended to calm down and got back on track.  Until austin's post that wasn't even directed to you in the first place.  But like Laner said, you had to play the armchair QB.  And then it just went off track from there.

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. Also, I don't get mad when people attack my MESSAGE. They can bash the PS3 or 360 or Wii until they are blue in the face and I won't get mad. What I do get mad at is when they attack ME.

I beg to differ.  I think it's both ways.  You tend to overreact when anyone says something bad about the PS3.  You have the history to show for it.  I know I had to PM you various times asking you to ignore it.  And to you're credit, you do get attacked, and the mods know it and we have addressed it as well.  But it goes back to my earlier point, you don't allow us to do anything, because it's already been escalated from your responses.

Tebunker didn't get reported because while the topic could be controversial, it wasn't done so maliciously, it was a satire.  I didn't find your topic to be controversial as well.  Had it been the other way where the OP was trying to get a rise on purpose, then yes that's something that needs to be addressed.  But in any case neither one of you had anything to worry about.  In fact the first warning I got about this post was rrmorton's post.  But as I said before and it should be the theme, you don't let the mods to do their job.

 
3727  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XBLA] Live Arcade Wednesday - Alien Hominid HD on: March 02, 2007, 12:03:52 AM

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on March 01, 2007, 09:15:20 PM

Quote from: warning on March 01, 2007, 04:44:22 PM

Hetz - Your insistence on having the last word whenever these things come up means your stay here will (unfortunately) be very short.  I'd suggest you make a decision to not respond at all when these snipefests come up if you want to continue posting here.

I'll never understand this "blame the victim" approach to moderating. You should go after the trolls who start the whole mess in the first place, not the people who rise to the bait.

I do agree with that, and we do go after the trolling, hence Warning's warning to austin (I don't consider you a troll austin, just your comment Tongue)   We have also asked users to not respond to it as well, Hetz and others have been constantly warned and temporarily banned over it.  It's vicious circle, so we have asked both to stop.  There is a well developed pattern with certain people, and some people really can't resist to make a response, not letting the mods do their job.  Unfortunately sometimes it escalates too quickly for mods to notice.


**Looks like it's been addressed.  Tongue
3728  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: NBA Street Homecourt on: March 01, 2007, 11:42:57 PM
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3729  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Costco Return Policy Change on: February 28, 2007, 03:12:47 PM

Quote from: Kobra on February 28, 2007, 03:02:27 PM


    * Shopping Cards, which can not be redeemed for cash.


Heh I read that as Shopping Carts.
3730  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: DVD Tuesday - 02/27/07 on: February 28, 2007, 03:06:08 PM
ya it does...  http://movies.aol.com/movie/stranger-than-fiction/23757/main

One of my favorite movies this year
3731  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: DVD Tuesday - 02/27/07 on: February 28, 2007, 03:03:38 PM
I thought stranger than fiction came out yesterday...  If so, WBS you suck at this Tongue
3732  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Supreme Commander Impressions/Availability on: February 28, 2007, 01:40:04 AM

Quote from: ROTC1983 on February 27, 2007, 09:35:47 PM

Quote from: naednek on February 27, 2007, 09:32:09 PM

Quote from: ROTC1983 on February 27, 2007, 08:27:58 PM

Quote from: Calvin on February 27, 2007, 12:29:25 PM

Jesus its like night and day- you can finally see enough of the damned battlefield to play. Super excited to get this!

What, are you running it 640by480?  Tongue 

Funny you should say that. I'm running at 640 by 480 and everything at low and it's still a slideshow.

frown  What are the specs of your Rig Naednek?

AMD 64 3400+ 2gigs of ram 6800gt
3733  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Supreme Commander Impressions/Availability on: February 27, 2007, 09:32:09 PM

Quote from: ROTC1983 on February 27, 2007, 08:27:58 PM

Quote from: Calvin on February 27, 2007, 12:29:25 PM

Jesus its like night and day- you can finally see enough of the damned battlefield to play. Super excited to get this!

What, are you running it 640by480?  Tongue 

Funny you should say that. I'm running at 640 by 480 and everything at low and it's still a slideshow.
3734  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C3 Demo Today on: February 27, 2007, 09:28:26 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on February 27, 2007, 07:22:02 PM

There were two things missing in the demo that I think it needs and hope they add in before release.

1. Walls. I love to build walls. Without them I feel naked and have to spread my deffensive guns all over the place to cover my ass.

2. Popup names. When I hover my mouse over a building I would like it to tell me what building it is without me having to click it . I lose my army highlight then and have to hit my 1-9 key to regrab them.

As for the full motion videos.....Ive heard people make fun since they started with them in the 90s. I love them and after playing the C&C3 demo I realized just how much Ive missed them these last few years. I miss those old days. Glad to see Kucan do such a great job with them.

They also need to bring back the feature when you sell your building or if it gets destroyed, some rifleman should pop out
3735  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C3 Demo Today on: February 27, 2007, 05:39:11 PM

Quote from: SuperHiro on February 27, 2007, 05:34:08 PM

Quote from: Lockdown on February 27, 2007, 04:51:45 PM

Have any of you super smart types gone into the .ini file to see if the speed can be tweaked?  I am excited to try the game, but I am ascared of the super fast pace some of you are reporting.



Can you handle BFME 2 alright?  Or DoW:DC?  I'd say if you can handle those on normal speed (esspecially so for BFME 2), you should be alright.

If you can handle DOW, you can handle anything.  This is actually faster than DOW.  Which I thought would be impossible.  What made DOW to frantic was all the unit upgrades, there was too much baby sitting.  I haven't played skirmish on C&C3, but based on the missions, units and building are super quick to build.  There really no downtime.  But if you a veteran to the RTS genre, you should do fine.
3736  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Absolutely Hilarious Video mocking Sony on: February 25, 2007, 06:21:07 AM

Quote from: jblank on February 24, 2007, 08:47:17 PM

Quote from: Hetz on February 24, 2007, 08:44:53 PM

Quote from: jblank on February 24, 2007, 08:42:51 PM

Quote from: Kobra on February 24, 2007, 06:21:57 PM

Quote from: Gratch on February 24, 2007, 05:53:48 PM

Y'know, being able to pay and being willing to pay are two very, very different things.

+1.  Some people take shit way way too seriously, just because I can afford a $15,000 Gas Grill, doesn't mean I am not a damn fool if I spend that on one!  You'd think religion was involved if you looked at it like an outsider.  icon_wink

There is your post of the week ladies and gentlemen. Damn well said Kobra.

 icon_lol

Ok, now this thread is funny!

Why, because someone thought Kobra made an excellent point?  icon_confused Maybe if some folks here would stop trying to nitpick every little thing Kobra said, they would see that he is an intelligent person more than capable of contributing to the forum. He's right though and makes a very valid point.

I just don't understand the reaction to this video from the PS3 fanboys.  Even Tebunker said himself the video was inaccurate and to not take it seriously.  It was more of  a satire.  Yet, they still get their panties in a bunch.  As someone else said, if someone made a video of the xbox 360 and all of it's problems, I too would think it was funny, and hell, it's even more accurate Tongue 

Maybe it's easier for me to see it, since I don't own a console as of last year.

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As I have mentioned previously in another PS3 vs Xbox360 vs Wii vs Whatever, just accept it as a joke.  It seems like as soon as something like this is brought up, the drama breaks out and everybody is at each other's necks.  This seems very similiar to the politics threads were one thread brought out the worst in everyone.  Sadly, it ended up with the banning of the entire genre of this subject matter for a predetermined time period.  *Sigh*  crybaby

Sadly the same people are the ones causing the drama.   
3737  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Absolutely Hilarious Video mocking Sony on: February 24, 2007, 05:34:25 PM

Quote from: semiconscious on February 24, 2007, 04:12:20 PM

'hilarious'? funnier than a newly-deceased 360, i'll admit, but not by all that much...

really disappointing to see mods hopping on the 'yet one more ps3-bashing forum topic' bandwagon...

I haven't seen a mod here bash the ps3..  Unless you meant Tebunker, he's not a mod, he's part of GT staff.  And even he didn't bash the thing.
3738  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: [PS3] Hot Shots Golf 5 on: February 23, 2007, 08:36:34 PM
This topic has been moved to Sports Gaming Discussions.

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3739  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Supreme Commander Impressions/Availability on: February 23, 2007, 01:06:21 PM
Thanks, I haven't been keeping up with hardware and didn't know the E600 is a dual core CPU.

Ok, for those who have a non dual core CPU, have you noticed any improvements on performance from the demo to the retail version?
3740  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Supreme Commander Impressions/Availability on: February 23, 2007, 05:12:27 AM
For those of you who are having good performance results, can you tell me if you have a dual core processor?  Also, is there a big difference between the performance from the demo and the performance on retail?
3741  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Desktop Thread on: February 23, 2007, 02:04:20 AM
3742  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C3 is slated for a March release on: February 22, 2007, 02:33:28 AM

Quote from: SuperHiro on February 22, 2007, 12:24:00 AM

Whoa whoa whoa, I don't know what game you've been playing, but BFME2 is way faster than DoW.  Buildings went down LIKE THAT.  It was crazy fast.  So fast I didn't even have time to micro my units.

While BFMEII's buildings went down quickly, the gameplay itself was no where near as fast and frantic that DOW was.  C&C3 looks worse than DOW3, just based on the videos.   I just remember having a hard time keeping up with DOW when it first came out, now it's not as bad (gotten used to it)
3743  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C3 is slated for a March release on: February 21, 2007, 11:51:19 PM

Quote from: SuperHiro on February 21, 2007, 08:51:05 PM

Quote from: Calvin on February 21, 2007, 08:12:39 PM

Quote from: SuperHiro on February 21, 2007, 08:09:14 PM

Let's not take our pants off yet.  It could still be a crazy tank rush.  I think it'll be pretty solid though, I'm putting all my hopes on Greg Kasavin.

God don't tell me that, if you do, he will penalize the game for its lack of originality and its basic lasso and rush functionality and deliver us a sucky product smile Ok lame joke-but I sure as hell don't think a first time game dev is going to contribue a ton of awesomeness to his first project.

But yes, if the demo looks tank rushy, I might have to wait for a price drop. I am willing to go fast paced and frantic so long as there is at least an elment of micro or rock-paper involved. And we will play together Hiro-san.

One thing I always pegged Greg as was a big RTS junkie.  IIRC, he was a huge Starcraft guy and was all about C&C too.  And when he left, he said he was going to a company that "knew how to do RTS right" or something like that.  Now, EALA obviously isn't that company, but still, his association with it gave me a big ray of hope.  It'll dash pretty easily though.

I'd have the same reaction if Tom Chick was making an RTS. 

And if you like fast paced and frantic why'd you bag on BFME2  finger



Because BFMEII wasn't a fast paced action game.  It wasn't slow either, but certainly not fast pace like the DOW series is
3744  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C3 is slated for a March release on: February 18, 2007, 07:05:39 AM
New movie trailer is out.

I can't wait!
http://www.cncden.com/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1171652433&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&
3745  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: Which to buy; Winning 11 or FIFA? on: February 16, 2007, 06:54:20 PM
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3746  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: The Official GT Trader Feedback List (updated 11/06) on: February 15, 2007, 08:20:03 PM
+1 to fyedaddy
3747  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Toyota Gets a Black Eye Before the NASCAR Season Even Starts on: February 15, 2007, 08:15:58 PM
I'm more concerned about ATB owning a Sienna biggrin
3748  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / MOVED: KHET on: February 13, 2007, 02:03:30 PM
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3749  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: February 09, 2007, 06:16:19 AM
3750  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: February 09, 2007, 05:13:58 AM

3751  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / MOVED: Reformatted HD, did not backup iTunes library, what do I do? on: February 06, 2007, 02:41:11 AM
This topic has been moved to Hardware / Software Hell.

http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php?topic=18011.0
3752  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mods of 2006 on: February 02, 2007, 12:57:44 AM
Damn, I thought I won an award
3753  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 24: Season 6 Talkback (Spoilers) on: January 30, 2007, 02:06:27 PM
Ya this episode was a tad bit boring.  More Jack Please, Less Whitehouse
3754  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: How about a comments feature in the news section? on: January 23, 2007, 02:17:32 PM
I've always hated that feature with Bluesnews, all it is is a flame fest
3755  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blockbuster Online rolling out Movie Downloads. on: January 21, 2007, 12:04:36 AM

Quote from: Kobra on January 20, 2007, 11:32:59 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/20/business/20interview.html?_r=2&ref=business&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

 thumbsup thumbsup

Also noticed I got an email from BB saying new high-tech envelopes are being rolled out this week.

What's so hi-tech about it?  I got the same email, it just said it's gonna change to Blue, and look out for contests and promos
3756  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Am I the first? CoC Discussion... on: January 19, 2007, 03:06:42 PM
If you have an issue with a mod/mod decision, you can take it to PM instead of airing it out for the community to see.
3757  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: January 19, 2007, 01:26:42 PM

Quote from: Toe on January 19, 2007, 04:33:18 AM



I can't stop looking.
3758  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I really WANT to support the 360... But its getting harder to/ on: January 18, 2007, 08:49:34 PM

Quote from: Hetz on January 18, 2007, 04:37:49 PM

Quote from: Kobra on January 18, 2007, 04:31:20 PM

Quote from: Hetz on January 18, 2007, 04:01:07 PM

+1

It's like Sony is the Anti-Christ or something around here for many people.

No offense, but why continue to egg them on with posts like this? 

I'm not egging anyone on, just agreeing with what other posters before me had said. You've got to admit, it's been this way ever since the month or so before the PS3 was launched.

and on the other hand the pro-ps3 people have been taken many things way too personal as well.  Both sides were equally as bad.  Lets get back on topic, before Ron enables a "User Ban" Mod smile
3759  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Be careful using non-Sony component cables on your PS3 on: January 18, 2007, 06:36:57 PM
Ok, time to bring this back on topic.  If you want to continue, please start a new thread in the Off-Topic Forum.
Thanks
3760  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Supreme Commander Gold!! on: January 18, 2007, 06:30:28 PM
Ya I wasn't impressed with the beta.  I should load it back up before they shut it down to see if any of the performance issues has been fixed.  It was a system hog once you start building up troops

Quote from: gameoverman on January 18, 2007, 06:27:20 PM

I hope there's a single player demo of this,  I'd like to be able to try it out without having to play online.
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