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121  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Thumb sucking on: February 27, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
No, it's not me...

My 5 year old still sucks his thumb.  It's a comfort thing as well as habit.  I know it's bad for the teeth, and in all honesty I wouldn't care so much if he didn't have Cystic Fibrosis.  I'm more worried about the germ factor and the increased risk of getting sick.  That has more of a detrimental effect to his health than worrying about his teeth in my eyes.  When he's sick, it means more treatments, more fights, and missing school more often.

We told him when he turned 5, he has to stop sucking his thumb.  We gave him a weeks notice, and for the first few days, he did stop for the most part.  Occasionally we'd catch him, and when we made him aware of his habit he would take it out without a fight.  A week later he's back at it and says he can't stop.  So there's some options that I've seen.  One of them I like is nail polish.  They make natural ones where uses pepper extracts but I heard they are not as effective.  The other's are chemically based, and my wife doesn't like that option, fearing he'd be ingesting them.  I'm thinking of trying the natural one first and if that doesn't work then move up to the chemical one if needed.

How did you get your kids to stop?
122  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC] Frozen Cortex (formerly Frozen Endzone) on: February 25, 2015, 10:33:23 PM
I think if you just click twice it skips the video.
123  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Frozen Cortex Free (Gone) on: February 21, 2015, 03:56:28 PM
Ok, got it working.  Not sure why it was giving me problems.  I went to the steam inbox and got it that way instead of using the popup that initially came.

Thanks again Lee!
124  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Frozen Cortex Free (Gone) on: February 21, 2015, 01:58:07 PM
hmmmm I received your notice in steam, but when I click redeem it says it's already been redeemed
125  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Frozen Cortex Free on: February 21, 2015, 06:27:00 AM
I'll grab it if it's still available!
126  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Destiny -Bungie's new game with Activision on: February 20, 2015, 05:49:49 PM
This is so jacked up
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/horror-scenes-as-destiny-player-deletes-stranger-s/1100-6425419/

Short story, kid invited a stranger via shareplay to take over his controller supposedly to help him pass a level in destiny.  Kid steps away for a minute and comes back to see that the stranger deleted his lvl 31 and 22 character and dismantled a weapon.  You can hear him saying NO NO NO, and then turns off the PS4.  He boots backs in, deletes the guy from his list, goes back into the party he was in and sarcastically tells him "Thanks, I didn't need those characters and weapon" and then leaves.  He then loads up the game and while it's loading you can hear him sobbing. 

I felt so bad for him.  What an ass the stranger is.  And let this be a lesson to not let people you don't know take control. 

It takes place about 13 minutes in.
127  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I took a wrong turn and ended... on: February 08, 2015, 05:58:56 PM
Which account do you want to keep?  I'm banning one of them per forum rules.  If you want to start from scratch that's fine, but you probably should have emailed for the possibility of renaming.
128  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2015 Off-Season Discussion on: February 03, 2015, 05:51:47 AM

Quote from: gellar on February 03, 2015, 05:42:09 AM

Niners setting up nicely for a 6-7 win season. I guess that's not that bad?

back to the good ol days
129  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2015 Off-Season Discussion on: February 02, 2015, 10:15:39 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on February 02, 2015, 09:11:14 PM

Quote from: naednek on February 02, 2015, 06:57:13 PM

This thread will be used for off season and the start of this year's football season

Well, we're all on even playing ground now.  As far as my niners are concerned, they rather be bad to mediocre instead of being successful and having to deal with an ultra competitive coach.  There's been reports that ownership told Harbaugh he wouldn't be back next year after the loss to Seattle in December.   So much for "mutal agreement"  Just tells you that Harbaugh was pretty classy when it came to his fate.  He could have easily fought the whole time, make them fire him, take the $5 million he was owed and then get paid again by Michigan.  Just shows you how stupid York is.

As far as the rest of football goes, there needs to be some major changes on player conduct and officiating.  Both were huge distractions and both need to be addressed.

What does your team need to do this offseason?

49ers need to go back to the power run game.  Don't know if that's going to be possible if Gore leaves.  Kap needs to improve with getting the play off in time, reading defenses, and making better decisions.


49ers need to go back in time and not fire Harbaugh and instead just fire Roman.

So what you're saying they should be listening to the Fans Tongue
130  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / NFL 2015 Preseason on: February 02, 2015, 06:57:13 PM
This thread will be used for off season and the start of this year's football season

Well, we're all on even playing ground now.  As far as my niners are concerned, they rather be bad to mediocre instead of being successful and having to deal with an ultra competitive coach.  There's been reports that ownership told Harbaugh he wouldn't be back next year after the loss to Seattle in December.   So much for "mutal agreement"  Just tells you that Harbaugh was pretty classy when it came to his fate.  He could have easily fought the whole time, make them fire him, take the $5 million he was owed and then get paid again by Michigan.  Just shows you how stupid York is.

As far as the rest of football goes, there needs to be some major changes on player conduct and officiating.  Both were huge distractions and both need to be addressed.

What does your team need to do this offseason?

49ers need to go back to the power run game.  Don't know if that's going to be possible if Gore leaves.  Kap needs to improve with getting the play off in time, reading defenses, and making better decisions.
131  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] Superbowl Week on: February 02, 2015, 05:24:09 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on February 02, 2015, 05:15:50 AM

That last min or so from the Kearse catch on the back to the end.  Just...what happened...head explode.

Ya after that Kearse crazy catch I was like, DAMNIT Not again!  I didn't understand the Patriots strategy after that.  Personally I would have let Lynch score the rushing TD after that, to preserve time. I also wouldn't have kicked the ball out of the endzone at 2:02.  But it didn't matter, the INT saved the day. 
132  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: on: February 02, 2015, 04:24:40 AM
Finally a great superbowl.  Gonna be fun tomorrow
133  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: February 01, 2015, 12:02:51 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on January 31, 2015, 10:19:25 PM

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But that's the thing, the outpost was cleared, and literally 3 minutes after clearing they repopulate.  I'm sorry, no military is that efficient

If it's an actual outpost (smoke coming out of it), and it has actually been cleared (you get the cinematic showing it's cleared), then there's no way they respawn because good guys take over and you have missions and a safehouse inside there.

I think you're talking about something other than an outpost, or else you didn't actually clear it all the way.

It's not an outpost.  Others keep talking about outposts, but I never mentioned it was.  My original observation said I was doing a karma mission and 3 guys were camped out next to a turrent.  I killed them, and then used the turrent to do some redneck hunting.  Went to go claim my skins, but before doing so got attacked by an eagle.  When I got rid of that I turned around and the 3 guys I had killed had respawned 3 minutes after all of that.  It was within the map that was cleared  out (IE not in Fog of War, which means that area's outpost was already cleared)  Again I wasn't at an outpost, I was out in the forest/countryside exploring doing a karma mission.
134  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: January 31, 2015, 09:49:25 PM

Quote from: jztemple2 on January 31, 2015, 04:39:32 PM

I didn't see the guard respawning as an issue. In FC2 if you wiped out a roadblock you'd just assume that central command would roll out a new set of guards as soon as they found out there was a problem. It would be unrealistic if you just sat there indefinitely and more guards didn't show up, but I can understand that the flow of the game intended that you'd vacate the premises and once you were beyond a certain radius the guards would reappear.

In FC4 as mentioned above, once you take an outpost most of the bad guys in the area are gone, but otherwise you assume that that new patrols are being sent out to find out what happened to the old ones.



But that's the thing, the outpost was cleared, and literally 3 minutes after clearing they repopulate.  I'm sorry, no military is that efficient Tongue
135  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Far Cry 4 on: January 31, 2015, 03:00:54 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on January 31, 2015, 07:48:30 AM

Quote from: naednek on January 31, 2015, 07:19:44 AM

Well there's definetely respawning of guards.  I was doing a Karma mission, had to kill a commander.  They were station near a stationary machine gun.  After clearing them out, I saw some wild animals and figured I'd go hunting redneck style.  But then a freaking eagle was near by.  I spent two rounds of trying to kill the eagle, and when I did, the two animal corpses I was going for were gone, and then I heard something behind me at a distance.  I turn around what do you know, the same guard camp I just cleared out is fully populated with more guards.

This is farcy 2 all over again. 

No, camps only repopulate if you haven't taken out the Stronghold in the area.  And you will get a radio call asking for help if one of them is going to be attacked again.  It's not really like Far Cry 2 at all in that respect.  I think you're reading too much into some random encounters or other enemies driving into the area.
No, it's exactly like far cry2 in how they do things.  In far cry2 you could be riding or walking along and come up to a crossroad or a point of interest with enemy guards at it.  You clear them out and you literally travel like a hundred feet, turn around the guards you just cleared popped right back up.

That's exactly what happened last night.  I was inside a just cleared outpost and started exploring the area.
136  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: January 31, 2015, 07:19:44 AM
Well there's definetely respawning of guards.  I was doing a Karma mission, had to kill a commander.  They were station near a stationary machine gun.  After clearing them out, I saw some wild animals and figured I'd go hunting redneck style.  But then a freaking eagle was near by.  I spent two rounds of trying to kill the eagle, and when I did, the two animal corpses I was going for were gone, and then I heard something behind me at a distance.  I turn around what do you know, the same guard camp I just cleared out is fully populated with more guards.

This is farcy 2 all over again. 
137  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: January 29, 2015, 05:05:47 PM
So I haven't played enough to know for sure, but I think I ran into some respawning...  Can anyone confirm?  Farcry2 did it, and it was horrible.  I don't recall Farcry 3 doing it, and if they did it was much smarter about it.

Last night I was doing a side quest, and I ran into some wolves.  I killed them, and realized I went to far from my objective.  I reached my objective and the 2nd part of the objective was past the part where I originally went to far.  When I came back the same 3 wolves were back.

I absolutely hate this cheap tactic by lazy developers.  Nothing ruins immersion than that. Games like No One Lives Forever did this and it went down from what could have been a cool game to a shitty game because of it.

Anyone else see this type of respawning?
138  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Far Cry 4 on: January 28, 2015, 04:53:29 PM
Got this yesterday for a great deal, and man it's pretty. 

Had a fun moment doing my first quest after the prologue.  I was sent to a farm to take care of some wolves who were killing the farm animals.  I was tasked to destroy the wolves den after taking out the wolves.  Inside the den was a gas canister and figured I'd blow it up with my fire arrow.  Well still learning the controls, I accidentally threw in bait.  I said to myself, crap there some perfectly good meat wasted, but didn't think anything else of it.  I figured I was ok because there wasn't any tigers/scary animals nearby.  Then I heard the tiger roar...  And I'm stuck in the cave trapped.  I managed to get by the tiger's leap, and accidentally shot the tiger with my fire arrow catching him and everything around me on fire.  Fire moved to my 4 wheeler and blew that up.  I ended using a normal arrow to blow up the gas canister which made no sense to me.

Fun chain of events
139  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: FS: PS4 console, 1 controller, Killzone Shadowfall, Infamous Second Son on: January 27, 2015, 10:22:45 PM
Turtle, did you get my PM?
140  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Incorrect temp bans on: January 27, 2015, 06:34:07 PM
Eco has been unbanned with the promise that he'll behave.  I hope that's true...

I've tried banning his alt and for some reason it's not sticking.  I asked Knightshade to assist with that.

141  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: Recommendations for PC Gameplay Recording Software on: January 27, 2015, 02:22:33 AM
This topic has been moved to Hardware / Software Hell.

http://gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php?topic=52335.0
142  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] Overblown Deflategate Edition on: January 25, 2015, 12:41:13 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on January 24, 2015, 10:19:44 PM

Quote from: Devil on January 24, 2015, 08:44:39 PM

Nice work by Belichick today.

Big middle finger to to everyone.

Dismissed this foolishness and spygate in the same press conference.

Needed that.

Now everyone can go back to the hate and saying he's a liar.

LOVE IT!


Please just beat Seattle. I don't care if you cheat doing it just win.

Amen!  The problem now is that the Seahawks will just bitch and moan that they  shouldn't even be there if they lost.  This took away my potential enjoyment.

143  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] Overblown Deflategate Edition on: January 23, 2015, 08:57:24 PM
ProBowl is sometime this Sunday.  Who cares right?










144  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Early 2015 Movie Fest! on: January 21, 2015, 10:38:53 PM
man I just finished watching Divergent.  I liked it.  Didn't know it was a trilogy
145  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Championship game on: January 21, 2015, 05:45:10 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 21, 2015, 03:00:01 AM

Quote from: naednek on January 19, 2015, 05:38:43 PM

Quote from: lildrgn on January 19, 2015, 07:20:01 AM

Bandwagon? Hate Seattle fans?

Don't paint with such a broad brush, guys. I've been on this bandwagon since 1984. I watched this game from home today and even I was doubting it after Russell's 4th pick. Even after winning the SB last year, 28 years or so of SOS (Same Old Seahawks) is hard to shake. The Seahawks have been an excellent team for 3 years now and every team has a bad game now and then. Even after being "exposed," I was ready to call it a season.

But wait, there's more!

Freakin' Russell Wilson and his ability to make nothing into something. Jermaine Kearse going 0/4 with 2 INTs directly off his hands, then catching the 35 yd walk-off TD. And Marshawn Lynch running for 157? I don't think we were "exposed." We played to win. GB played not to lose.

2 more weeks. Bring on Brady.

Just because you were a fan (and I believe you since you live in the area) doesn't mean most of your fanbase were fans prior to 2012.  Heck it's widely been known that prior to your recent success, you could see more visiting team jerseys than home team.  I'm sorry, but you have alot of people who are on the bandwagon.  That doesn't take anyway from you or other true fans.

I mean to be clear, Levi's Stadium is going to be just like that within the next five years.

I can see that, only because of the new stadium and tickets being so expensive.  I know when I had season tickets during the 2-14 year the games were still selling out and most of the people there were 49ers fans, unless it was the 49ers vs Raiders game.  Most of the 49ers fans chickened out and sold their tickets.  That parking lot and stadium was a sea of silver and black that Sunday. 

But as to your comment, I do agree, with the quality of the team soon to go down, and the cost of owning the seats, you are going to see alot of 3rd party ticket sells to visiting teams.  I don't think it's due to bandwagon, I think this case is due to more of economics.
146  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Championship game on: January 19, 2015, 05:38:43 PM

Quote from: lildrgn on January 19, 2015, 07:20:01 AM

Bandwagon? Hate Seattle fans?

Don't paint with such a broad brush, guys. I've been on this bandwagon since 1984. I watched this game from home today and even I was doubting it after Russell's 4th pick. Even after winning the SB last year, 28 years or so of SOS (Same Old Seahawks) is hard to shake. The Seahawks have been an excellent team for 3 years now and every team has a bad game now and then. Even after being "exposed," I was ready to call it a season.

But wait, there's more!

Freakin' Russell Wilson and his ability to make nothing into something. Jermaine Kearse going 0/4 with 2 INTs directly off his hands, then catching the 35 yd walk-off TD. And Marshawn Lynch running for 157? I don't think we were "exposed." We played to win. GB played not to lose.

2 more weeks. Bring on Brady.

Just because you were a fan (and I believe you since you live in the area) doesn't mean most of your fanbase were fans prior to 2012.  Heck it's widely been known that prior to your recent success, you could see more visiting team jerseys than home team.  I'm sorry, but you have alot of people who are on the bandwagon.  That doesn't take anyway from you or other true fans.
147  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Championship game on: January 19, 2015, 01:27:16 AM

Quote from: Caine on January 19, 2015, 12:49:47 AM

Quote from: naednek on January 19, 2015, 12:36:29 AM

GRRR That sucked. Damn they choked hard.

I had the game recorded, but didn't set to record past the alloted time. I realized that in the 3rd qtr. By then it was 3:15pm (pacific) the DVR stopped at 3:00pm. When the initial recording ended Packers were up and Russel just ran it in. Started the 2nd recording to see GB losing 22-19. Saw the rest.

What happened between that time? Man, this game was all packers. They had seattle exposed. How do you lose that.

Now I get to see more bandwagoners the next two weeks. Hate seattle fans. Caine, that statement doesn't apply to you, you've always been classy
That means a lot, Ken.  Thank you. 

I'm not sure what the hell they were doing the first 3/4 of the game, but that late surge of spirit and string of amazing plays really turned it around. 

I cannot believe that we are going back.

I just caught the 11 minute highlight reel at nfl.com.  I missed a lot in the last 2 minutes of play.  Pisses me off I didn't see it happen.  That was pretty intense.
148  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Championship game on: January 19, 2015, 01:23:45 AM
Then there's this..

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2334313-seahawks-fans-leave-nfc-championship-game-early-miss-crazy-comeback?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national

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After leaving a do-or-die game early, some Seattle Seahawks fans got exactly what they deserved.

The 2015 NFC Championship Game wasn't looking good for the home team in the waning minutes of the contest. That led some Seahawks fans to leave CenturyLink Field prematurely.



I would have paid money to see that.
149  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Championship game on: January 19, 2015, 12:36:29 AM
GRRR That sucked. Damn they choked hard.

I had the game recorded, but didn't set to record past the alloted time. I realized that in the 3rd qtr. By then it was 3:15pm (pacific) the DVR stopped at 3:00pm. When the initial recording ended Packers were up and Russel just ran it in. Started the 2nd recording to see GB losing 22-19. Saw the rest.

What happened between that time? Man, this game was all packers. They had seattle exposed. How do you lose that.

Now I get to see more bandwagoners the next two weeks. Hate seattle fans. Caine, that statement doesn't apply to you, you've always been classy
150  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Random Youtube Links Part 1: This time it's random Youtube Links (NSFW) on: January 18, 2015, 01:35:52 AM
I don't know about that being legit.  Why would you need a dash cam facing the cop.  Shouldn't it be facing the road?  Seems a bit staged.
151  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Championship game on: January 14, 2015, 11:46:02 PM








152  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Soundbar question for tv on: January 14, 2015, 03:56:16 AM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on January 14, 2015, 03:44:14 AM

Interesting... so a 'soundstand' rather than a soundbar. Hadn't stumbled across any such thing yet, hope it works out for you.  icon_cool

The display model at bestbuy sounded nice.  I got it for $217 after tax.  It would have been around $320 at normal price.
153  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Soundbar question for tv on: January 13, 2015, 09:05:24 PM
Got the chance to hear it today.  Sounds great.  Wish I could have bought it there, but I have $50 in gift cards at dell.com to use towards it.
154  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Soundbar question for tv on: January 13, 2015, 06:43:16 PM

Quote from: Zinfan on January 13, 2015, 06:47:34 AM

Quote from: naednek on January 13, 2015, 06:23:44 AM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on January 03, 2015, 03:15:10 PM

Quote from: naednek on January 03, 2015, 06:44:11 AM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on January 03, 2015, 04:58:00 AM

Heck no, mine uses HDMI. I guess I should say "as well" but all I'm using are the HDMI ports.

which one do you have?

I've had this Sony HT-CT100 Sound Bar for awhile now and it's been a good choice, IMHO. Discontinued now but plenty of newer models, from what I recall they all have a decent selection of connection options.

So your sony soundbar has led me to this...  I have $50 in gift cards that expire in a few days.  I've been toying with getting a 2nd controller for the ps4 but I might use that towards this...  http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A7679079
What do you think?  I'm gonna go check it out at best buy and hope it's on display

No experience with the Sony but I just bought this http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-ATS-1030-Built-Subwoofers-Bluetooth/dp/B00NT6JSKK at Cosco for $189.  Seems to work well but have yet to try the Bluetooth stuff.  I liked the built in subwoofers instead of a separate wireless one that others had.  It has coax, analog and optical inputs but no Hdmi input.  I'm using it along with my XB1, PS4 and Wii U setup.  The consoles plug into the TV via HDMI and the TV goes into the sound bar via optical.

Ya that's a nice system.  I heard that a few weeks back and almost bought it only to see it's limited in connections.  If my TV had optical I would be fine.  But I also use the TV firestick that requires hdmi.  This soundsystem from sony seems to address all of my needs.  Going to bestbuy in hopes they have it on display.

But that yamaha sounded really nice
155  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Soundbar question for tv on: January 13, 2015, 06:23:44 AM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on January 03, 2015, 03:15:10 PM

Quote from: naednek on January 03, 2015, 06:44:11 AM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on January 03, 2015, 04:58:00 AM

Heck no, mine uses HDMI. I guess I should say "as well" but all I'm using are the HDMI ports.

which one do you have?

I've had this Sony HT-CT100 Sound Bar for awhile now and it's been a good choice, IMHO. Discontinued now but plenty of newer models, from what I recall they all have a decent selection of connection options.

So your sony soundbar has led me to this...  I have $50 in gift cards that expire in a few days.  I've been toying with getting a 2nd controller for the ps4 but I might use that towards this...  http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A7679079
What do you think?  I'm gonna go check it out at best buy and hope it's on display
156  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Divisional Round on: January 12, 2015, 02:51:57 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 12, 2015, 01:40:33 PM

Word ont he street is Buffalo is looking to hire Greg Roman for OC.

How upset should I be by this?

Just get used to him planning on games for personnel or skill types your team doesn't have.
157  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Divisional Round on: January 11, 2015, 10:51:10 PM
1 team down one more to go next week.
158  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [NFL 2014] [Playoffs] Divisional Round on: January 11, 2015, 05:12:39 PM
159  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3,360,PS4,XB1,PC] Grand Theft Auto V on: January 09, 2015, 06:45:39 PM
man it's like a pesty fly that won't go away.
160  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3,360,PS4,XB1,PC] Grand Theft Auto V on: January 09, 2015, 05:08:07 PM

Quote from: Ridah on January 09, 2015, 06:20:54 AM

I just started playing the game last week... Is anyone else turned off by the nature of the explicit content? I know I've become more sensitive towards mature content in entertainment since getting married and living with my wife, but it seems way too vulgar. The strip clubs actually show bare breasts, the dialogue is pretty harsh (particularly when Trevor is talking), the violence is not as "cartoony" as it used to be with Trevor smashing people's heads in left and right.

Maybe I'm not remembering clearly, but I thought GTA IV was classier about its content.

The last 3 GTA games have always been this bad.  It always makes me uncomfortable.
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