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1721  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]rumour....new Blu-ray xbox 360 to be announced this week on: June 09, 2008, 01:19:43 PM

Quote from: Turtle on June 09, 2008, 01:40:03 AM

There's another reason why this likely won't happen though.  Remember all the bluray drive speed problems with the PS3, it's the thing that's causing all the HD installs on the PS instead of being able to stream directly off the drive.  Well, even though bluray drives have advanced quite a bit, I'm not sure the drives would do all that well reading 360 dvds.

Is that because of the drive or because the PS3 games are on blu-ray discs? MS would not be able to allow their games to ship this way, because most of their customers don't have the blu-ray player.

Or am I completely wrong and there is no difference between the discs that the 360 and the PS3 use?
1722  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Recharging health - Yay or Nay? on: June 09, 2008, 01:07:45 PM
It's a big improvement over the health bar and magical first aid kits, IMO. It depends on the game. For Halo the regenerating health worked and made sense. In COD4 it makes less sense, but as others have said the game wouldn't be any fun if you got shot once and was down. There has to be a way to absorb some damage and keep going.
1723  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: weekend playlist-06/06/08 on: June 06, 2008, 07:55:49 PM
I'll finish up Half Life 2: Episode One either tonight or tomorrow depending on when the girlfriend gets home. Then after that it will be a toss up between finishing some achievements with GTA4, Rock Band, winning the cup with NHL 08, or moving on to HL2: Episode Two.

Or, none of the above in the unlikely scenario that my copy of Devil May Cry 4 will be delivered by Gamefly.
1724  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Classic Video Game Theme Song Quiz on: June 06, 2008, 05:51:20 PM
Crap! 9 out of 10 but I missed Metroid  icon_mad
1725  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: It's official: Obama Vs McCain. Coming this November '08 on: June 05, 2008, 09:32:53 PM
Thanks for the link Brendan!

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on June 05, 2008, 08:49:27 PM

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simply because they are an atheist.
God, I'd vote for an Atheist in a heart beat.  Somebody please stop the religious folk from ruling this country!

Not going to happen. The study Brendan linked to has the question "Itís important to me that a president have strong religious beliefs. Do you completely agree, mostly agree, mostly DISagree, or completely DISagree with it?" 69% agreed with the statement, while 27% disagreed with it in some way.
1726  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Does character matter in the NFL? on: June 05, 2008, 08:23:36 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on June 05, 2008, 07:23:05 PM

Quote from: msteelers on June 05, 2008, 07:11:21 PM

Quote from: jpinard on June 05, 2008, 06:42:20 PM

Character is extremely important.  Would you want to do teamwork with a wife-beater who is an ass-hole to everyone to boot?  Someone who thinks they can do what they want and not stand up for the same societal values as everyone else should - all while making millions and millions of dollars?  No.  Not only that, they have an honororay influence on kids because of their well-paid positions and should take pride in being good role-models - or at least be neutral if they don't give a crap.  Just don't set negative role-model incentives - like Amy Winehouse and the young girls who adore her.

None of that matters in the NFL. It should. But it doesn't. Players don't care normally because if the person is really good at what they do, it helps them achieve a life long dream, while also the potential to earn millions more dollars than they could have otherwise. Players also can't affect who is around them, or at least it is rare for a player to actually have a say or influence.

Terrell Owens in Philadelphia.  His presence did far more harm than good.  And before anyone argues that he was one of the main reasons why Philadelphia earned a place in 2003's Super Bowl, he missed a good portion of the season and the playoffs due to injury.  While his contribution helped, it was far from being the deciding factor.  While character may not matter to the NFL as a whole, it certainly matters to Philadelphia.

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GM's who control who is a part of the team have a better say. Some care about character, most are willing to look the other way if they are a more competitive team, which is their ultimate goal. And Owners just want a license to print money. They wont step in until the printer gets jammed.

Fortunately Philadelphia does not follow this paradigm.  While Terrell Owens is a talented receiver, following his antics and negative influence on the team, he was benched and forbidden to ever again don Eagles green regardless of season standings or financial consequences.

You obviously remember that situation better than I would, but I thought the year they went to the Super Bowl he was playing nice, and didn't turn nasty until the following season when they went 8-8. That was also a situation where it became apparent to all it would either be him or McNabb left in the locker room. In that situation, TO will lose every time.
1727  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Does character matter in the NFL? on: June 05, 2008, 07:11:21 PM

Quote from: jpinard on June 05, 2008, 06:42:20 PM

Character is extremely important.  Would you want to do teamwork with a wife-beater who is an ass-hole to everyone to boot?  Someone who thinks they can do what they want and not stand up for the same societal values as everyone else should - all while making millions and millions of dollars?  No.  Not only that, they have an honororay influence on kids because of their well-paid positions and should take pride in being good role-models - or at least be neutral if they don't give a crap.  Just don't set negative role-model incentives - like Amy Winehouse and the young girls who adore her.

None of that matters in the NFL. It should. But it doesn't. Players don't care normally because if the person is really good at what they do, it helps them achieve a life long dream, while also the potential to earn millions more dollars than they could have otherwise. Players also can't affect who is around them, or at least it is rare for a player to actually have a say or influence.

GM's who control who is a part of the team have a better say. Some care about character, most are willing to look the other way if they are a more competitive team, which is their ultimate goal. And Owners just want a license to print money. They wont step in until the printer gets jammed.
1728  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: It's official: Obama Vs McCain. Coming this November '08 on: June 05, 2008, 07:06:04 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on June 05, 2008, 06:36:21 PM

There are plenty of people who will vote for Obama because of his race. And there are plenty of people who will not vote for Obama because of his race.  No big surprise there.  It is what it is.  As foolish as it sounds today, there there were the same feelings about JFK being a Catholic in 1960.  Hopefully 50 years from now if a black man is running for president, talking about his race will sound as silly as talking about Kennedy's religion sounds today.  But anyone who thinks race will not be a factor in this year's election is naive.

Well put. Unfortunately though, that isn't that foolish today. I remember seeing a poll done where over half of the country would NOT vote for a person, even if they were well qualified, simply because they are an atheist.

I can't find the poll itself, but here is an article that references the poll.

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A Gallup poll in 1999 asked American voters the following question: "If your party nominated a generally well-qualified person for president who happened to be an X would you vote for that person?" X took on the following values: Catholic, Jew, Baptist, Mormon, black, homosexual, woman, atheist. Six out of the eight categories secured better than 90 percent approval. But only 59 percent would vote for a homosexual, and just 49 percent would vote for an atheist. Bear in mind that there are 29 million Americans who describe themselves as nonreligious, secular, atheist, or agnostic, outnumbering Jews tenfold and all other religions except Christianity by an even larger margin.
1729  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: It's official: Obama Vs McCain. Coming this November '08 on: June 05, 2008, 06:33:59 PM
As an Obama supporter, I think it is valid to suggest that ONE of the reasons he is getting such a big portion of the black voters is because he is also black. To deny this is the equivalent of closing your eyes, covering your ears, and shouting "NO,NO,NO,NO,NO" over and over again in denial.

At the same time, this does not mean that this is the ONLY reason people are voting for him. Clearly, there are numerous qualities that make him a desirable candidate. I would imagine that the percentage of people who vote for Obama, and that his skin color is their #1 reason for voting for him, would be very low in comparison to other reasons to voting for him.
1730  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 05, 2008, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: gellar on June 05, 2008, 03:27:46 PM

That was one of the coolest endings to a Stanley Cup Finals I've seen.  At first glance, I seriously thought that desperation attempt went in.

gellar

Me too, and part of me wondered how horrible/wonderful it would be to have to reign in all of the Red Wings players celebrating in the corner, because the game wasn't over and was going into overtime.
1731  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 05, 2008, 01:41:02 PM
Congrats to the Red Wings. As much as the Pens were able to make this an entertaining series, the Red Wings looked like champions throughout.

And the officiating was terrible all around. Blatant penalties committed by both teams would go uncalled, and then the penalties that were being called were weak at best. The only good thing is that it seemed to go both ways. It will be interesting to see if this is addressed or not in the offseason.
1732  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Sad day for a friend on: June 04, 2008, 08:24:03 PM
You did the right thing. Hopefully his family will be able to help him and he wont just take advantage of them like he would have taken advantage of you.
1733  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Watching sports on a DVR on: June 04, 2008, 08:18:16 PM
If I have no other option, I will record a sporting event, and go into lockdown mode. I had to do it with a lot of the Pens games this year. It sucks when I'm at work, because I can't go to ESPN. But most of the other sites I frequent wouldn't have any spoilers. I also have to send out a text message to a couple of people before the game starts and tell them I am not watching it, so they know not to send me any messages.

If I am able to watch the game at home, I will watch it live if I know that someone else I know is going to be watching it live, because I'll most likely be sending text messages to them about the game. If it is a game nobody else cares about but me, I'll record it and start watching about halfway through so I can cut through most of the commercials.

One thing I noticed though is that if I am watching a game live, I am reluctant to pause the game, or rewind it to watch a play again. I don't know why this is, because if I have recorded the game I do it without hesitation.
1734  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: It's official: Obama Vs McCain. Coming this November '08 on: June 04, 2008, 08:00:29 PM

Quote from: LordMortis on June 04, 2008, 07:22:08 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on June 04, 2008, 06:58:36 PM

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I really don't understand how anyone in their right mind would want to continue down the same path we have been going down for the past 8 years of this asshole in the white house.

A lot of us don't feel that McCain = a continuation of Bush policies. Before McCain was ever considered anywhere close to being a nominee, he was painted as a maverick who scored better with independents than his own party and was known for his moderate stances. Even when he was fighting with Huckabee for the nomination, he was painted as a guy who would have an extremely difficult time appealing to the more conservative base of his own party.

Then he clinches the nomination, and all of a sudden he is portrayed as a Bush lackey who will constitute a third term of Bush.

Sorry, but if you believe that, then you are freely buying into Democratic spin. In reality, it doesn't make much sense. 

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Something happened and he became a pet of Bush and the Republicans.

That "something" was him clinching the nomination and the Democratic war machine going on the offensive to paint him as a Bush clone.

I think your timeline might be off.   If you made this 2000 rather than 2008 then I would agree with you.  McCain was totally the Not Bush Republican (in the way was presented) until he lost to Bush in the primaries.  Then something happened and his presence changed.  He felt like he didn't want to become the Not Bush Republican Whipping Boy and became the Bush Thrull instead.

I was going to post something similar to this. Before 2000 I would have voted for McCain in a heartbeat, and is was probably the only republican I could stand. But since he lost the primary it has felt like he believed the only way to win the primary is to appeal to the same people that voted for Bush.

I'm far from an expert on politics, but I have still had the impression of McCain as a "Bush Clone" years before he won the primary a couple of months ago.
1735  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 04, 2008, 06:53:10 PM

Quote from: The Meal on June 04, 2008, 06:43:59 PM

How many people live in your house, how many shows do they record, how often do they watch the recorded shows, how long is your own backlog, and how much space do you have left on your DVR?  I keep an extra 90 minutes off all the hockey games I record, but recording that much extra, in HD (sorry, kratz), rapidly eats up what little space we have left.

Okay, what little space *I* have left.  My girls hardly watch any TV programs...

We don't record many shows, but we barely ever watch TV. I have entire seasons of Lost, Supernatural, Smallville, Grey's Anatomy and several other shows that my girlfriend records and never watches still on my DVR. I know most people that have DVR run out of space fairly quickly unless they watch everything, but I rarely run out of space. Then again, I set a couple shows to not be deleted unless manually erased, and let a bunch of other shows purge off after awhile.
1736  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 04, 2008, 06:22:10 PM

Quote from: The Meal on June 04, 2008, 05:59:16 PM

I'm with you on wanting it over in G6, however.  We're camping/rafting this weekend, so we wouldn't be able to watch G7 until getting back in town on Sunday night (and if it goes to OT, no guarantees that it'd be recorded on our DVR).

I've had to record several games this postseason. I always tell it to record an extra 3 hours after the scheduled ending so that I know I get everything, even if it goes into multiple overtimes.
1737  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: What do you consider "camping"? on: June 04, 2008, 02:59:42 PM
I think it also depends on what game you are playing, as well as the game mode. A game that is a little bit more on the realistic side like COD4, it is a valid strategy to sit and defend a position, especially one that is important to the map. I might have a problem in a game like Halo under certain situations, but I think I have changed my views on camping since playing COD4 so much.
1738  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Does character matter in the NFL? on: June 04, 2008, 02:52:30 PM
Each NFL team is a big corporation. All they care about is making money. And if they have the option to bring in a talented player with some personal issues, or a stand up citizen that is an average player, the talented player will win every time, unless the backlash from the fans is going to be big enough that it is going to be a problem.

The only way character will ever truly matter in the NFL is if it matters to the fans, because they have the power to hurt the teams in the pocketbooks. But right now that blind regional loyalty wins out almost every time.
1739  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Review] The Bourne Conspiracy on: June 04, 2008, 02:07:29 PM
Good review. After the demo I lost interest in the game, but I think I'll rent it now.
1740  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 04, 2008, 01:35:29 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X on June 04, 2008, 12:08:16 AM

That was a game that ought to get NHL ratings up again. It was still on at 11:30 here, which means people tuning in to Leno and the nightly news got an amazing game instead.

I've read that the ratings have been up pretty big in the US all series. The two games on Versus were up well over 100%, and I think Game 3 on NBC pulled in a 2.4 share or something, which is the biggest game since 2000 or 2002.

And apparently Game 4 pulled a 2.3 share, but Game 5 was way up.

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The Pittsburgh Penguins' 4-3 win to avoid elimination against the Detroit Red Wings earned a 4.3 overnight rating and an 8 share on NBC. That's a 79 percent increase over last year's 2.4 for Game 5 between Anaheim and Ottawa.

It was the best Game 5 rating since the Carolina-Detroit matchup in 2002 drew a 4.5.
1741  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 03, 2008, 08:32:42 PM

Quote from: Arkon on June 03, 2008, 08:27:38 PM

Keep in mind,the Pens played almost 3 full periods without thier #1 D-Man in Gonchar, that is of course going to cause issues with the Pens trying to get out of thier own end.

Did they ever say what his injury was? I immediately thought concussion, because he looked out of it when he was sitting on the ice and later on the bench. But if that was the case I doubt they would let him come back even if it was just for the power play.
1742  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Example why the human race is doomed to extinction on: June 03, 2008, 08:27:51 PM

Quote from: rshetts2 on June 03, 2008, 12:43:17 AM

Quote from: coopasonic on June 02, 2008, 06:38:20 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on June 02, 2008, 02:46:28 PM

Yeah, it amazes me how this show could be all about these chicks' relationships and sexual escapades when 3/4 of them are completely unattractive.

I'll give you a hint, from the linked article:
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Women made up 85 percent of the audience on Friday, Fellman said.

The other 15% were gay guys, pets and eunuchs.

And the poor schmucks who said ok Honey, if you go see Indy with me this week, Ill go see SaTC with you next week.    retard

I did this for Superman Returns and The Devil Wears Prada. Unfortunately for me Superman Returns sucked.
1743  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movie trilogies that got progressively better on: June 03, 2008, 08:17:53 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 03, 2008, 07:25:45 PM

Quote from: ChaoZ on June 03, 2008, 07:11:02 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 02, 2008, 09:22:59 PM

Quote from: Kyosho on June 02, 2008, 09:20:24 PM

I highly doubt anyone would agree with me, but I'd say the Back to the Future movies qualify. They do in my opinion anyways. However, I was too young to see the first one by itself and have to wait for the sequels. The first one is more of a teen comedy, and if I was expecting mostly that from the sequels, I may have been disappointed. Some people say they got "too sci-fi." Well, whatever. I love them all. And I think the sequels improved upon the original.

Sorry, I just checked and it turns out that the order of quality for the BttF movies is 1, 3, 2, just as I had suspected. slywink

For the BttF movies, you can rank it (best to worst) 1,2,3 or even 2,1,3 but in no way can you say 3,2,1

The third movie was no way better than part 2. Impossible.

No, no, no. 2 is the worst.  It is a total mess with all the back and forth, and the reshoots of the first movie from different angles and the bad aging makeup. 1 is the best, and 3 is quite good, but not as good as 1.

No. 1 is the best, and 2 and 3 are about equal. 3 is a better all around movie, but I thought the part in 2 where they go back to 1955 was excellent, and made up for the abortion that was the beginning and middle of the movie. And the ending was great. "No Doc, it's me. It's Marty! I'm back, I'm back from the future..."
1744  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 03, 2008, 07:35:41 PM

Quote from: The Meal on June 03, 2008, 07:00:28 PM

Can't speak.  Figuratively or literally.

Game: Crap, Ooof, a-ha!, woot!, HELL YEAH!! Shit...  SHIT!

Most memorable hockey game I'll ever attend in my life.  Was a fantastic present.  But... SHIT!

I felt a little bad for you guys when the Pens went up 2-0. But by the time overtime started I had completely lost that feeling, which slowly turned to jealousy when you actually got to see almost two full games of Stanley Cup hockey.
1745  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 03, 2008, 05:51:56 PM

Quote from: kratz on June 03, 2008, 05:37:26 PM

Quote from: msteelers on June 03, 2008, 05:18:29 PM

Quote from: DamageInc on June 03, 2008, 03:51:31 PM

I'm wondering how the long game 5 will affect Game 6. Will the younger players of the Pens bounce back quicker? Will the experience of the Red Wings give them a clear advantage? Or will both teams be exhausted and the goalies take over?

Yeah, I don't know... the young guys on the Pens definitely seemed gassed a lot sooner than the 'old' guys on the Red Wings.  You watch Lidstrom, there's a guy who knows how to not waste energy... his movement all seems so laid back, but he's always where he needs to be, and always making the play he needs to make.  It doesn't ever seem like he gets wound up or flails around.  The Penguins really seemed to dig deep to pull out the energy there at the end, whereas the Wings didn't seem particularly phased by the length of the game... fat lot of good it did them. smile

Especially in the first and third overtimes, when the teams switched benches and had the long distance to go to get a shift change. The Red Wings dominated those periods for long stretches and the Pens just could not get the puck deep enough to get their men off the ice. Either one of the coaches or one of the announcers said that in a game like that they try to shorten the shifts to 20 to 25 seconds, but some of the Penguin players were out there for seemingly several minutes at a time. I was positive the Red Wings were going to score in the third off of a bad shift change or just exhaustion from the defense...
1746  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 03, 2008, 05:18:29 PM

Quote from: DamageInc on June 03, 2008, 03:51:31 PM

Man this series has just been crazy. I have not seen two teams go at it like this in quite awhile, but then again I live in Arizona.

It has been a great series, at least the last couple games. Games 1 and 2 we saw the other level Detroit can play at, and Pittsburgh had no answers. But I think they have answered and are playing as good as they can, and are leaving it all on the ice. Detroit certainly has as well, and games 3-5 have been classics.

Even assuming the Red Wings win in Game 6 or Game 7 (which they should), there will be no regret from this Pens fan. I'm glad that I have been able to see such a good series.

I'm wondering how the long game 5 will affect Game 6. Will the younger players of the Pens bounce back quicker? Will the experience of the Red Wings give them a clear advantage? Or will both teams be exhausted and the goalies take over?
1747  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 03, 2008, 02:21:58 PM
Wow. This has been an incredible series, even with the two blow outs in games 1 and 2. I was convinced the Red Wings would come out tonight and dominate all game, and take the cup. Even if the Pens lose game 6 at home, I think they have proven that they belong in the finals, and Fluery became a man last night.

The refs have got to be consistent, which so far this series they haven't. They have let the players play, which is good, but most of the calls they do make are weak, while obvious ones they let go. Of the two interference penalties, the second one I was ok with but the first one was an awful call.

And why was the high sticking a 4:00 penalty? I have seen similar shots earlier in the playoffs, but they were only 2:00.
1748  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 02, 2008, 08:21:46 PM

Quote from: Remus West2 on June 02, 2008, 07:56:07 PM

Quote from: kratz on June 02, 2008, 07:43:22 PM

I'm a wings fan, but... you are saying Crosby should blow Zetterberg in the middle of a competitive series.  Never going to happen.  Chillax.
I think you are over stating my position.  I am saying that he should be able to admit Zetterberg made a great play.  I am not saying he should say Hank is the next great one.  It is not the lack of praise but rather the downplaying of it that bothers me.  Had he left it at talking about the play then I would not have an issue.  It was when he then said it was nothing anyone else would have done that bothered me.

Still, it is a very minor issue and I am only still talking about it because I am bored out of my mind.

Zetterberg played so good on that 5-on-3 that he knocked out my power for over an hour. During the closing seconds of that power play my power flickered, and then died. I called my friend in a panic, but he blew out his ACL and just had surgery for it. He had just taken 3 percocet and was useless. I then called my dad, who tried to give me his best Mike Lang impression...it was uninspired.

Saturday night sucked for me  icon_cry
1749  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Clinton's screwed on: June 02, 2008, 07:27:05 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 02, 2008, 06:29:46 PM

Quote from: msteelers on June 02, 2008, 05:27:16 PM

I agree, but everyone pretty much knew that the delegates were going to be sat one way or another. Both are swing states, and it would have been a gift to the republicans if the democrats didn't give them a voice at all. I wish more talk would have gone into a revote, but both states shot that down almost immediately, and nobody seemed to pick up the argument after that.

On principal, I disagree with this.  You don't set rules and plan on breaking them later.  If their votes don't count, they don't count - regardless on whether you seat the delegates at the convention.  The Republicans' plan for punishing MI and FL was a better one, but once the DNC decided, they should stick to it.

I actually agree with what you are saying. Everyone knew the rules well in advance, and everyone signed off on them. Florida and Michigan broke the rules, they should be punished. At the same time, Clinton shouldn't be calling for all the delegates to be sat. It is an obvious and disgusting move to win at all costs. Would she have argued for this long to get them seated if she didn't need those delegates? Absolutely not.

And as a voter in Florida, I do not feel disenfranchised by the democratic party. Still, others will. Or more likely, the Republicans will constantly point out that the democrats didn't give FL or MI a voice (even though everyone knows that is stretching the truth)

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Plus, I'm not sure "everyone knew the delegates were going to be sat".  If that were so, everyone (but Hillary) wouldn't have pulled their names off the MI ballot.

True, but I don't think anyone thought we would be in June without a clear nominee. I'm sure many thought there would be a clear winner back in February, and they would be able to let the delegates from the two states sit without affecting the outcome. But the fight has been so close they couldn't do that.
1750  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 02, 2008, 06:54:00 PM

Quote from: Remus West2 on June 02, 2008, 06:16:03 PM

The approach he took to being asked about the 5-3 made him seem like a whiny little bastard that couldn't figure out why everyone wasn't still talking about how great he is.  He just says "yeah, it was a great play on his part" then moved on without anything else being said.

Really? A whiny little bastard? That is the exact opposite of most of the sound bites I hear from him. Out of most of the superstars in their respective leagues, Crosby is probably one of the least selfish and bastard like out of all of them, at least to the press.

Even after Game 3 where he scored 2 goals, the ESPN guys were asking him all kinds of questions, and his responses were all "we" and "us", and no "I" or "me" moments.

I haven't seen the quote that you are caught up on, but I saw this in an article when I was looking for it:

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"Tonight could have gone either way," Crosby said. "We know we have to even play better, but it's nice to know that we're right there and we play our game. There's no choice now. I mean, we've got to win to stand."
1751  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: June 02, 2008, 06:06:53 PM

Quote from: rshetts2 on June 02, 2008, 05:37:05 PM

I for one dont think he should be giving major props to the Red Wings.  Still instead of making comments about how theyve out played the Wings and how close the play has been, maybe he should figure out why they are behind 3-1.  Perhaps if they actually scored more than 1 goal in the 3 loses he would have a case.  The offense of the Pens has been shut down for one of two reasons.  Superior defensive play by the Wings or complete offensive mediocrity by the Pens.  Which is it Cindy err...Sydney?

From the quotes I have seen (usually in the recaps of each game), he isn't saying anything like that. After Game 1 he said the Red Wings were a tight checking team and they have to find a way around that. After Game 2, when everyone was saying the Pens were done and had no chance, his comments were that they have had just as many chances as the Red Wings, they just haven't found the back of the net. He said basically the same thing after Game 3.

And as for the Game 4 comment, his team essentially has just lost the series. They all know the challenge ahead of them, and it's probably worse because they had a golden opportunity to tie the game with that 5-on-3, Crosby in particular. Even the media said he was visibly frustrated.
1752  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Clinton's screwed on: June 02, 2008, 05:27:16 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 02, 2008, 12:32:55 PM

Hillary supporters need to STFU.  Their candidate lost, period.

The rules of the primaries were agreed-upon prior to the first ballot ever being cast.  This included the exclusion of FL and MI.  Once Hillary figured out she was losing, she started to campaign to change the rules after the game had already been played.  That in itself is absurd and I found her comments so distasteful and idiotic that I promptly switched to Obama.

Then, miracles of miracles, they actually managed to bitch enough to get the rules changed.  As far as I'm concerned, that was a mistake.  You play by the rules that were set.

I agree, but everyone pretty much knew that the delegates were going to be sat one way or another. Both are swing states, and it would have been a gift to the republicans if the democrats didn't give them a voice at all. I wish more talk would have gone into a revote, but both states shot that down almost immediately, and nobody seemed to pick up the argument after that.
1753  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My latest beer test..Yuengling on: June 02, 2008, 05:18:53 PM

Quote from: Aliasbuck on May 29, 2008, 11:13:52 PM

Yuengling is made in two places: Pottstown, PA and Tampa, FL.  Which is why we get the cheap beer here msteelers - an hour from the brewery  nod

Nice! I knew there was a reason I haven't moved away!
1754  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My latest beer test..Yuengling on: May 29, 2008, 07:06:18 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on May 29, 2008, 05:40:48 PM

Quote from: WalkingFumble on May 29, 2008, 05:35:55 PM

is it that hard to find?  it seems like its everywhere in virginia.

It's only available on the east coast.  There aren't any distributers out west, and it definitely isn't available in Arizona.  I've never even see it farther west than Pittsburgh (once you cross into Ohio they think it's a "Japoneez import").  When I was in Disney World recently they had it all over the place but they have a distributer in Florida.   

It's everywhere around here in Orlando. It's guaranteed to be on tap in almost any bar, and it is in every grocery store as well. I bought a case last night for $9.99. Tasty and cheap!
1755  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Friend emails sent to oblivion on: May 29, 2008, 02:47:12 PM

Quote from: Austin on May 29, 2008, 02:17:57 PM

Quote from: spigot on May 29, 2008, 01:36:47 PM

Maybe it's just me and I'm being old and uptight, but I find it incredibly annoying when you send out an email to a group of friends to get their feedback on something or to set up a meet and no one responds. Non-responses are assumed non-participatory. Seriously. Do I have to call each and every one of you up? Reply with something. Anything. Fuckers.

Maybe in my case it's justified seeing as how all my other friends are either already married (no kids) or soon-to-be married. Everyone but me has got something else goin on frown

Still doesn't make it less considerate though.

Often times it probably means they have to check a date or run something by the spousal unit etc...  Perhaps add a line to please reply to let them know they received the email.  I can think of times where I received an email and meant to respond after checking on some things and just forgot. 

A simple "Let me check with my wife/husband/babysitter and get back to you" would be all it takes to buy them time to figure out an excuse not to hang out with him though.

Unless these are people that don't check their email regularly. I always have my work one up, but I usually only check my personal account once a day, if that. Sometimes I've gone weeks without checking it if I am really busy.
1756  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 29, 2008, 02:31:56 AM
That was an intense 6 minutes there. Wow.
1757  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 29, 2008, 02:27:53 AM
Brooks Orpik is a beast!
1758  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 29, 2008, 01:37:22 AM
Oh man. These angles they are using for the power play are making me nauseas. 
1759  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 29, 2008, 01:01:57 AM
I now understand why people were saying Hossa disappeared in the playoffs, and warned about him when the Pens made the trade. He should have so many more goals. Throughout the playoffs he has been missing on great feeds from Crosby, but it didn't matter because they were winning. He missed on a couple in the first two games of the finals, and now he just fanned on at least two great attempts in period 1 of Game 3.  mad
1760  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 28, 2008, 08:50:57 PM

Quote from: kratz on May 28, 2008, 08:44:18 PM

The trapezoid is the only place behind the net that the goalie is allowed to play the puck.  Some people call it the 'Brodeur rule'.

Wouldn't he be considered just a regular skater then, and goalie interference wouldn't apply? Would they have called a penalty on that play if it had been a defenseman for the Red Wings and not the goalie?

Or do they treat goalies in the NHL just like they treat quarterbacks in the NFL? Put a skirt on them and don't let anyone touch them no matter where they are on the field/ice.
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