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1681  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Everyone in this forum please read on: June 25, 2008, 01:38:11 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on June 25, 2008, 02:59:25 AM

I think some of us - myself included - need to recognize that we've more a part of the problem than part of the solution lately.  We also had a large influx of new posters who may have been used to posting in a different manner than what we've typically had here at GT.  This thread may help both sides of the equation - helping those of us who have gotten shrill to get our act together and provide more guidance to newer members on the GT method of R&P posting.

No offense, but I've seen far more troll-like, personal flaming behavior here in GT than I ever did in OO. Maybe it's us who should be giving you lessons.


OO gets personal in some situations, and some people get it much worse than others. But I have seen some posts here where I would have been very offended if I was the target of the attack.
1682  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 100 Pushups - 6 week program. Who's in? on: June 25, 2008, 01:21:11 PM
I managed to do Day 2 better than I expected. Plus my wrist hasn't been a problem, which helps.
1683  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: When was the last time someone changed your mind on an P/RN topic? on: June 24, 2008, 07:11:50 PM
I can't remember anything making me do a complete 180 on a position I believed in. But people posting here and at OO have definitely helped shaped my opinion, and almost always make me think of things differently than I would have on my own.
1684  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [100 pushups] Results Tracker Thread. on: June 24, 2008, 04:02:09 PM
Initial test: 7
Level of intensity: Rank 2
2nd Test: 19
Level of intensity: Rank 1

1685  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Everyone in this forum please read on: June 24, 2008, 02:09:55 PM

Quote from: Canuck on June 24, 2008, 02:00:29 PM

Someone must be doing a lot of reporting! I see a lot of crap on here but that's when I just flip to the next thread-pointless arguing gets boring real fast.  On the other hand, politics and religion has its own forum for a reason-these discussions can get pretty heated.  I say if people are going to participate in a Religion/Politics forum then they need to throw on their asbestos suit and lose the sensitivity.  Keep your fingers off the report button people!  That is for the wussies in Off Topic slywink

I feel like I have thick skin, and don't get bothered too much by posts on a message board. But even so, some of the attacks have become very personal towards others and should stop.
1686  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Bush calls for congress to open areas for drilling on: June 23, 2008, 09:27:12 PM
Drilling for oil sounds nice and like a short fix, except it takes time to get everything working. Even if 10 years is an exaggeration, even 5 years can be too long given the way our economy looks. I would rather see those 5 years being used to find some way to get us away from using oil, or at least cut demand for it enough that prices can come back down or stabilize.

I would really like to see someone explore other methods like solar power and wind turbines to create more energy. I live in Florida, Most of the homes here would benefit from having solar panels. Same with the southwest states. They could create a ton of power. Other natural methods could be used wherever it makes sense. The problem is everyone is looking for the perfect solution, and it doesn't exist. It's going to take an entire overhaul of our culture and lifestyle for this to happen.
1687  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 09:16:20 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 23, 2008, 09:05:01 PM

Quote from: msteelers on June 23, 2008, 08:57:41 PM

That would be a better post if the Republicans weren't famous for using sleazy tactics, and not just racism.

Yep only republicans use dirty campaign tactics.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes    Sometimes the partisan slant of this board is appaling.

You are arguing a point that no one is making, with the exception of the two posters who are blindly loyal to the democrats.
1688  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 08:57:41 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 23, 2008, 08:54:17 PM

Quote from: Geezer on June 23, 2008, 08:43:34 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 23, 2008, 08:18:49 PM

One of the things that I think is going to happen more, as we are already seeing it, is that people will label opposition to Obama as being linked to some type of racism from the person who dislikes Obama.   We have already seen it in this thread where MSD has basically been called a racist by more then one person.   One can have not a shred of racism in them and still think Obama would be a horrible failure as a president.    But the racism card will be played by some Obama supporters to try and shame people who oppose him, and that is going to be quite sad to see.

No.  MSD was passingly associated with racists by one person.  No one else has come close.  The problem MSD has is that in national campaigns that have garnered huge amounts of attention, conservative groups, generally republican-leaning in focus, have made a science of trashy thinly veiled innuendo and smears over the past couple of decades.  Because of that, fairly or not, Obama supporters are going to be hyper-sensitive to such activities. 

It's not to say that left-leaning and Democratic-party supporting groups haven't indulged in the same behavior - but it's the conservatives that have really abused this kind of politics repeatedly IMHO.

Paraphrasing msduncan:  "It's not okay for Senator Obama to warn people about Republican tactics until we've deployed them more widely."

It seems you're just angry that your ilk aren't getting a free pass to promote their unique brand of sleaze under cover of darkness. 

Neither of those comments were very subtle in calling MSD a racist, so im not sure where you get that just one person 'passingly' associated with being a racist, as both those quotes were quite clear in making that attack.

And again it was Clinton and her supporters who first started on the racial tones against Obama, but repubs of course are the ones who seem to be getting all the blame for any racial tones to this campaign season.

That would be a better post if the Republicans weren't famous for using sleazy tactics, and not just racism.
1689  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (6/23) on: June 23, 2008, 01:48:50 PM
I added Alone in the Dark to my gamefly account. Maybe I'll get lucky and have it sent to me soon. I've got to save money for next month when I'll get Civilization Revolutions and NCAA.
1690  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 100 Pushups - 6 week program. Who's in? on: June 23, 2008, 01:45:16 PM
Initial test: 7  crybaby

I did the Day 1 workout this morning. 7/7/5/4/7.

I've noticed that my left wrist starts to throb after awhile. I'm hoping that as I move through the workouts this becomes less painful, and doesn't get worse. It seems that way anyway. Saturday when I did the initial test I quit because of the wrist, but today it only bothered me a little bit.

I'm going to fill in the off days with some kind of cardio. I've looked at that couch to 5k program, but I don't know if I want to do it or not. I'll probably start with it anyway, and see how it goes.
1691  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Bioshock - I'm at that part again .... on: June 20, 2008, 03:38:23 PM
From what I remember Big Daddies were easy if you could keep them away from you. I ran back a lot and pumped them full of bullets.

As for the docks portion I don't remember having too much difficulty with it, unless I am thinking of a different part. I remember freezing the bad guy and being done with it. The telekineses was fun too.
1692  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NCAA 09 Demo up on Live. on: June 20, 2008, 01:33:39 PM
I got a chance to mess around with the demo this morning. I did a couple of plays in the mascot game, but turned that off after a drive and switched to the "real" teams.

It's more of the same. It felt exactly like I was playing NCAA '08. I noticed a couple new animations, and gang tackling is more evident in this version, especially on kickoffs. The new features are not that intrusive, and make sense. The two that I really like were the coaching adjustments and diagnosing the opponents defense. At seemingly random parts throughout the drive, a menu will come up for coaching adjustments. They can give you the option for everything from block better, to get the ball back, to get the crowd into it. I don't think these are over powered though, at least from the four times I used it. On defense I chose to cover the receivers better. The CPU still completed their passes. Then I chose to get the crowd into it, and they cheered a little louder but that is it. Then when it looked like I the CPU was putting together a big drive I chose "get the ball back" on a 3rd and long. The next play was an out pass where my defender made a perfect jump on the route, but dropped the ball. And on the last play of the game, I was tied 10-10, on my own 15-yard line. I chose to "get open", and saw my receiver find a hole between the safety and the cornerback. I tossed the ball to him as time expired. He caught it and burned the safety for the game winning TD. So to me this feature is promising from the demo. The only negative I can say from it is the first couple of times I saw it was 4th down, so the adjustments were useless at that point unless I was planning on going for it.

The other feature allowed you to diagnose the defense. It seemed like it only came up after I threw an interception. They show still shots of the play, and give you three plays to choose from. If you choose the correct play, your QB gets a confidence boost. If you choose the wrong one your QB's confidence goes down. I really liked this feature a lot, because it gives you a chance to learn from your mistakes.

The other feature that I read about was the ability to "ice the kicker". This feature scares me, only because I can see EA making it too powerful. Essentially if you call a timeout before a kick it can take their composure down or something like that. I'll have to see.

Graphics are ok. Honestly, I don't see any difference between this years and last years. They put more detail in the cheerleaders...and the field. Nothing to get excited about.

Turnovers were a little crazy in my game. My second play I threw an interception, but it was my fault 100%. I threw it into triple coverage. Then the next drive I threw one that was probably my fault as well, since I took control of the receiver by accident and he stopped running. But on that same play the DB who intercepted the ball fumbled. Then the next play my QB fumbled it right back. It could have just been a whacky sequence of plays, or it could have been a sign that the turnovers were not addressed.

The other thing I didn't like was in the ratings of the teams. Both OSU and LSU were rated as a 99 overall...seriously, that shouldn't happen. IMO, there is no such thing as a 99 team right away. The only time I am ok seeing a 99 team is if it is a fake school that I create, an all-star team, or a team where I recruited very, very well. Hopefully this is just for the demo, as these were the #3 and #6 teams according to their rankings. I would hate to have at least 6 teams rated 99.

None of these things would make me want to purchase the game. But Online Dynasties have been something I have been wanting for years. That feature alone will make it worth the $60 price tag, unless they completely screw it up.
1693  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "We (the government) should own the refineries" on: June 19, 2008, 08:23:53 PM

Quote from: Toe on June 19, 2008, 06:50:29 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 19, 2008, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 19, 2008, 01:22:42 AM

House Democrats?  No, more like House Democrat.  Plus, it needs to come from a legitimate news source, or it didn't happen.  Faux News doesn't count.

I'm tired of this excuse.   Fox News is a legitimate news source whether you like it, or hate it.

How could you call a news organization put out something like this legitimate?

That's awesome on multiple levels.
1694  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 100 Pushups - 6 week program. Who's in? on: June 19, 2008, 07:27:13 PM
I have always been terrible at push-ups, and weak in the upper body in general. This sounds like a good challenge. I'm in.

1695  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NCAA 09 Demo up on Live. on: June 19, 2008, 07:04:33 PM

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on June 19, 2008, 06:10:37 PM

I don't know if I will download this or not.  I always but the new NCAA game anyway (I know, fuck EA) and I don't want to get pissed off this early in the summer.

Normally I try the demo, get completely sucked back in, buy the game, and within a week I am cursing EA's name. I think I have the strength to stay away...but online dynasties is what I have been hoping for...
1696  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tiger Woods is amazing. on: June 19, 2008, 07:01:10 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on June 19, 2008, 06:48:21 PM

Shrug. Sorry, I respect that he's an extremely talented athlete, I just don't get all goo-goo over him like most. I enjoyed golf before Tiger came along, and I'll enjoy it after he retires. I think it's unfortunate that a lot of talented golfers end up having to play in his shadow due to the way the media hypes him.

He pitches fits on the course, throws his clubs, yet nobody says a word. And the announcers always have an excuse. For that putt he missed on the back 9, they were talking about how the ball "hit something" which is why he missed the put. Bullshit, he fucking MISSED it. Hit a bad shot? "Oh, that knee must really be bothering him."

I will admit it's probably much more the announcers/media fault than Tiger's, as he seems like a really nice guy. But the whole "event" that surrounds him I don't care for.

The announcers definitely are annoying most of the time. But this is no different than John Madden with his unusual man love for Brett Favre and Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

I do get annoyed with the TV coverage the way they cover every single Tiger shot no matter how far behind he is from the leader. But at the same time the majority of golf fans are watching to see him.

Plus, Johnny Miller talks out his ass anyway. No, that ball didn't hit anything. Nobody else played that course that day, and if anything was there Tiger would have seen it and removed it in the 20 minutes it takes him to line up his putts.
1697  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "We (the government) should own the refineries" on: June 19, 2008, 06:44:34 PM
Oil makes the country run. It affects everything, and because of that, I'm not opposed to the idea of the government stepping in and regulating the process. Or at least discussing the pros and cons of it without completely dismissing it out of hand as socialism the second the idea comes up.
1698  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tiger Woods is amazing. on: June 19, 2008, 06:14:46 PM

Quote from: Toe on June 19, 2008, 05:52:16 PM

Quote from: dmd on June 19, 2008, 05:10:25 PM

I guess we were watching different tournaments.  I saw several shots off the tee where he put it in the fairway but winced in pain.  I remember a shot on the 18th off the fairway where he hit a pretty darn good shot but looked like the pain was going to make him hurl.

Oh come on now, you know Tiger needs to leverage every thing he can to prove to the golfing world he is a good golfer. Up until the injury he only made 7,229 bad shots anyway. Well he has exscuses for every one of them ranging from 9/11 disaster to bird shadows during his backswing.

 Roll Eyes
1699  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NCAA 09 Demo up on Live. on: June 19, 2008, 06:05:33 PM

Quote from: Brendan on June 19, 2008, 05:55:04 PM

You get the opportunity to "coach your team" at various times.  You're presented with a menu that allows you to choose a particular coaching focus for the remainder of the drive.  Stuff like "Make your tackles" or "Get the ball back" on defense.  It apparently boosts appropriate stats until the drive ends.

Uh-oh. That has the potential to be an amazing feature in the game, and could drastically change the way I play (I would rather coach than play each game). But knowing EA it will probably be broken and have no way to turn it off.
1700  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NCAA 09 Demo up on Live. on: June 19, 2008, 05:47:27 PM
Nice! I'll be downloading this when I get home.
1701  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Poll] How important is Co-op gaming to you? on: June 19, 2008, 05:46:53 PM
I would rather experience the campaign's on my own and play with friends in co-op play. I played through a little bit of Gears of War co-op, but it didn't stick. And my brother and I always talked of playing Halo co-op, but we couldn't get away from the multiplayer long enough to do that.
1702  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Rock Band Wish Lists? on: June 19, 2008, 05:44:15 PM

Quote from: Jeff Jones on June 19, 2008, 04:21:04 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 19, 2008, 03:33:27 PM

I pressed the Unfreeze button on the cryogenic chamber where this thread has been resting.

I just was listening to "La Grange" by ZZ Top.  Please, please, please put this out.  Maybe with "Tush" and any damned other ZZ Top tune in a song pack.

+1 million

I LOVE LaGrange, probably my favorite song in GH3 (that, and Lay Down, by Priestess). I'd kill for LaGrange in RB, and preferably more ZZ Top as well.

La Grange, Tush, and Cheap Sunglasses would be a song pack that I would spend WAY too much money on.

I would also like some Gov't Mule. Maybe Thorazine Shuffle or Mule.

And sticking to the non radio music I would like to also see Rose Hill Drive. Showdown would probably be a good one. And playing Cigarette by The Clarks would be fun.
1703  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Looking to Blog on: June 19, 2008, 02:46:51 PM
I've only used Blogger, and it is really easy to set up and use. And if you have multiple blogs it is very easy to bounce back and forth between all of them from your main screen. and like Wordpress, you can export the code to your own site and still use their interface.

I think Wordpress looks more professional though, or at least has the potential to.
1704  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: See you all in 6-7 months!!! on: June 19, 2008, 02:44:04 PM
Good luck and stay safe!
1705  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 08:25:58 PM

Quote from: mytocles on June 18, 2008, 06:53:30 PM

Also, I've always had all my console units lying flat, with plenty of air flow, but a nephew was visiting the night of the overheating event, and he said all his friends say you should only use the 360 in the vertical position.  Since the PS2's were always a problem running upright, I'm wondering if the 360 is different... anyone know?  Just curious if there is any correlation to RROD and vertical/ horizontal placement.  icon_confused

I used to have my 360 sitting horizontal, but I switched it to vertical after I got the RROD. The second unit has been running ok since then. I like to think that it has more surface area exposed, and only a portion of the console is blocked by the floor, so it should cool off more effectively. I know I am kidding myself, but whatever.
1706  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 04:01:24 PM
Or you could always keep the box until you can get it to die. I don't think there is a time limit on it. My Xbox died the day I went on vacation. I ended up being gone for a month, so when I was finally able to get home and send it in the box had been sitting at my house for awhile.
1707  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alone in the Dark on: June 18, 2008, 03:58:07 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 17, 2008, 09:01:54 PM

Quote from: msteelers on June 17, 2008, 08:46:16 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 17, 2008, 08:40:04 PM

hmm,i just downloaded the 'making of' from XBL,and it does look good,however i cant decide whether i like the graphics,some are good in places but in others it looks like a poor mans 'Prey'

Wow. I thought Prey was the poor mans...something.

What I'm trying to say is Prey wasn't good.

Do you mean graphically or otherwise?  I actually liked Prey quite a bit.  And while they may not have been award-winning, I thought the graphics were decent, especially for the time.

AITD's graphics aren't jaw-dropping.  There's something kinda dirty about them, unpolished.  But if they're pulling off the kind of things they describe in the other vids, it might be a fair trade-off.

I was just being a jerk. I actually enjoyed Prey quite a bit. The death system bothered me a lot though, or lack thereof anyway, which is why I don't consider it a good game. It was more like just a fun way to kill a couple of hours (nothing wrong with that at all).
1708  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alone in the Dark on: June 17, 2008, 08:46:16 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on June 17, 2008, 08:40:04 PM

hmm,i just downloaded the 'making of' from XBL,and it does look good,however i cant decide whether i like the graphics,some are good in places but in others it looks like a poor mans 'Prey'

Wow. I thought Prey was the poor mans...something.

What I'm trying to say is Prey wasn't good.
1709  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movie] The Crappening (spoilers?) on: June 17, 2008, 08:28:46 PM

Quote from: kratz on June 17, 2008, 08:08:02 PM

I'm surprised anyone actually went to this...

Zooey Deschanel is hot as fuck though.  I generally really, really like her, and wish she'd get cast more often in movies I would like.

She's #1 on the list.

Really? #1? Yeah, she's cute...but #1?

1710  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: gamers sue EA!!!! on: June 17, 2008, 07:31:11 PM

Quote from: jersoc on June 17, 2008, 06:39:33 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on June 17, 2008, 02:56:22 PM

I still partially blame the idiots that buy the same broken game every year and then have the balls to bitch about it.  Every year.

no doubt, like wtf? It just boggles my mind that people are paying for the same game year after year. It's like what guitar hero has come once activision got it. i'm not rushing out to buy those anymore either. fool me once and all that.

Does this extend to the NCAA idiots? Because I am one of them, even though I haven't purchased Madden since whichever one was available at the 360 launch. They trick me every year!
1711  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Adam Sessler gets pissed about homophobes and racists on Live on: June 17, 2008, 01:30:41 PM
When I come up on these guys on XBL, I mute them, submit a bad feedback for trash talking or team killing or whatever, and then set to avoid that player so I never have to get stuck with them again. I'd like to think that one day everyone on live will be set to avoid except for those on my friends list. That will be a happy day.

It seems like the technology is there for Microsoft to regulate this, using just the feedback alone if people use it. Something is going to happen that will force them to pay attention, and hopefully it is the gaming community or game journalists that can push this forward, and not the mainstream media.
1712  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Civilization Revolution demo coming Thursday on: June 17, 2008, 01:14:56 PM

Quote from: ChaoZ on June 17, 2008, 02:37:50 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 17, 2008, 01:54:41 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on June 17, 2008, 01:45:31 AM

Wow.  That's hideous.

360 version for me I guess.

DS games rarely look good blown up so huge.  I agree it doesn't look as pretty as Advance Wars at first glance, but that's the price of having a game as complex as Civilization on a portable.

I don't mind if it's ugly, it's just that it looks close to impossible to tell units apart. Again, reviews should give us a better idea if it works or not.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time seeing what each unit is on that screenshot as well. I was going to suggest this to my Dad for the DS because he used to really like games like Dune and other strategy games. But he wont be able to see what is going on with those graphics.
1713  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: No NPD thread? (May NPD #s) on: June 16, 2008, 08:52:36 PM

Quote from: Farscry on June 16, 2008, 08:28:41 PM

Oh, another point I forgot: I and others have already addressed and debunked the HDTV portion of the "Wii went backwards" argument, but there is one way in which I feel that the Wii fell behind the new generation's standards: online multiplayer.

Thank you. Personally, I feel this generation is significant for two reasons: the Wiimote and Xbox Live. Those are the two things that have changed the way we play video games, not HD graphics.

And as a hardcore gamer, I don't own the Wii. I think it would sit and collect dust in my house, while I use the 360 almost every day. But at the same time I can recognize what the Wii is doing to the industry. It's hard sometimes to think that there is a barrier to entry when it comes to learning how to play video games, but there definitely is. The controllers used by the 360 and the PS3 are usually confusing and intimidating for people that have never used them before. That can be hard for some of us to appreciate, since I would imagine most of us have been playing games for a long time, and were able to learn slowly over time each new part of the controller. Bill Harris beats this drum over and over about the Wii, but it is true, the intuitiveness of the controller is one of the big reasons why the system is selling like hot cakes. Suddenly all of those people who couldn't do anything but aim at the ground or at the sky can now play almost right away, and are falling in love with video games just like most of us did as we were children.
1714  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Indy IV: thoughts, reviews, spoilers galore!! on: June 12, 2008, 09:16:43 PM

Quote from: rickfc on June 12, 2008, 06:52:05 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on June 12, 2008, 06:43:01 PM

Discussions work better if people don't skip half the words the other says.  I'm arguing that the entire test city scene made the movie worse.  I enjoyed the movie, but I enjoyed it despite the aliens, despite the CGI zoo, and despite the test city + refrigerator.  Note the plus sign indicating that I'm including the nuclear test city along with the refrigerator.

Why did that make the movie worse?  Were there no test cities around nuclear bomb sites? 

For me, I groaned as soon as he got into that test city. Not because test cities didn't happen, but because there was no way for him to escape a nuclear bomb in a way that made the scene good. If jumping into a fridge is the best they could come up with, the entire scene should have been left on the cutting room floor. It would have been perfectly fine for them to go from Indy escaping on the rocket to Indy talking with the government agents about what happened. They just tried to fit in a nuclear bomb somewhere in the story, because it is set in the 50's
1715  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Civilization Revolution demo coming Thursday on: June 12, 2008, 08:53:19 PM

Quote from: Dreamshadow on June 12, 2008, 08:21:09 PM

Nice Achivements...none that look impossible to complete either and they all look to be completeable wether you play single or multi:

There is one that looks hard. You have to beat the game on King difficulty by 1000AD...the demo goes to 1250AD, and I can barely take out one civilization let alone beat the game.
1716  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: June 11, 2008, 09:36:51 PM

Quote from: LordMortis on June 11, 2008, 08:40:01 PM

Quote from: Arnir on June 11, 2008, 08:18:33 PM

Quote from: dbt1949 on June 11, 2008, 07:57:44 PM

This thread reminds me of MTV. Started off fine but after awhile it turned to crap. Now I don't watch except when I'm flipping channels.

It has jumped the shark so many times that they are now building a bridge.  However, despite all the comments earlier from Rip, et al that they realize that communication is really important, the communications have dried up again.  Besides the rare "it will be back soon" comment that never turns out to be true.  I'm really starting to get bitter about this, and I don't know why!

I would suggest that it is because if OO dies and no one can provide verification then we will never know who lost the ThreadKillah contest.

1717  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Seriously? These guys should stay in charge of our government? on: June 11, 2008, 02:34:24 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on June 11, 2008, 02:20:40 PM

Well done, republicans!  *golf clap*

Since we are at it:;_ylt=Av31RmLloA1bIMeoQM.Dg8Cs0NUE

Saved by Senate Republicans, big oil companies dodged an attempt Tuesday to slap them with a windfall profits tax and take away billions of dollars in tax breaks in response to the record gasoline prices that have the nation fuming.

Explain to me how this makes ANYONE happy?  Republicans?  Democrats?  Independents? 

The Republicans argued that the oil companies would compensate by charging us even more at the pump. Unless there is language in the bill that prevent this (doubtful), then it is likely to happen. Since when have the oil companies done anything to hurt their bottom line?
1718  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Which is a bigger waste? on: June 11, 2008, 02:29:45 PM

Quote from: Canuck on June 11, 2008, 01:40:39 PM

Well with games like Rock Band you have to decide whether or not you got enough play time for what you paid for. But most of my games are RPG's which mean they're story driven- if you miss the ending of the story, what the hell is the point? 

Looks like you found your answer!

Personally with games like FFX and FFXII, I thoroughly enjoyed playing both games. I got hours and hours of enjoyment out of them, even though I never finished either.

Of course, I like short games too. If the gameplay and story are good, or one of the two is exceptional, then the length of the game is indifferent to me.
1719  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Which is a bigger waste? on: June 11, 2008, 01:34:18 PM
Did you enjoy the 70 hours of gameplay, or hate it?

I spent, what, $170 on Rock Band? A game that can never truly be beaten, and yet I don't regret it at all. It has provided a ton of entertainment, and even the few times I had company over to play was well worth the price of the game and all of the DLC that I have purchased (which I noticed last night was way too much).

Compare that to Rainbow Six Vegas 2, which I played maybe 6 hours total for and strongly disliked most of the time. Yeah, THAT is buyers remorse.
1720  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Ars Technica re-reviews the PS3 on: June 11, 2008, 01:28:27 PM

Quote from: semiconscious on June 10, 2008, 11:03:18 PM

Quote from: msteelers on June 10, 2008, 09:45:08 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 10, 2008, 08:09:56 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X on June 10, 2008, 08:02:29 PM

I have about 30-40 PS2 games, and I bought the 60gig version specifically because I wanted a PS3 and I wanted to keep access to my titles.

same here...own about 30-40 PS2 games, and therefore bought a 60gig PS3

last thing I want is to be forced to keep my PS2 out in my entertainment setup and taking up sources/space

Wow. I've had the 360 since launch and I own like...maybe 10 games. At least six of them were purchased the end of last year. The rest of my gaming comes mostly from Gamefly.

Of those games, how many are you realistically going to play again though?

then again, why would you deliberately limit yourself, gaming-wise, to whatever's currently easily available?...

I wouldn't say I deliberately limit myself to what is currently available. I spend anywhere from 1-2 hours at least playing games when I get home from work. The weekends I usually play more unless I am traveling or the girlfriend gets the weekend off work. Even with all that time I feel I can barely keep up with all of the new games.

i guess, basically, it's all about why & how you play games. in the same way people value old books, music, & movies, some people value old games (many of which have a way of either disappearing altogether or only being available at grossly inflated prices)...

Absolutely. I know personally that I never re-read books, and only watch movies more than once if I really really like them or a lot of time has passed between viewings. I know others will watch movies and read books over and over and over again, so it is no surprise to me that others do the same with their video games. What surprises me is that people can juggle playing not just a couple of games at a time, but dozens of games at a time. I must be doing something wrong  icon_biggrin
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