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2081  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 11:15:51 AM
I know I know... it's just the heavily accented gentleman on the phone said if they couldn't reproduce it they would send it back to me unrepaired.
2082  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 04:31:54 AM
Ok now I can't get the dang thing to do it again (360).   I'm thinking I should call them tomorrow and let them know that it's functioning again and to hold off on sending me the box.   I ***KNOW*** it is going to die, but I don't want to send it to them just for them to turn it on and find nothing wrong and send it back.

I think I'll just cancel and play it until it really dies.

**or do you guys think I should risk sending it in when it's not doing it?
2083  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 03:11:08 AM
Ok 360 they are sending me a box.    Free repair. 

At one time I had one of those fans on the back of my box.    Will they be able to tell I had one and thus claim I voided the warranty?   paranoid
2084  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 02:47:19 AM
$149 for the PS3 repair.    mad
2085  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 12:01:11 AM

Quote from: DamageInc on June 17, 2008, 04:08:01 PM

Sorry to hear about your bad luck, that really sucks.

My 360 bit the dust after 2 1/2 years ( a launch day system ) of heavy use. I was able to send it to MS and they repaired it and sent back my original box within two weeks.
It was only at MS for about 3 days and they fixed it for free since it was RRoD.

I know many people experienced a great deal of issues initially, but it looks like they are a lot better at it now.

Cool.   I'll call about it.   

BTW -- the 360 is a launch unit.   Do I get the prize for longest lived launch unit 360 on gamingtrend?
2086  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 17, 2008, 11:19:23 AM
Why does it still boot?   I don't want it to last, I want it to go ahead and get it over with so I can phone it in!
2087  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 17, 2008, 03:43:55 AM
Last week, as I posted here, my PS3 HDMI port stopped working.     I'm calling Sony about this tomorrow.

Tonight, after firing up Lego Indiana Jones, my Xbox360 suddenly froze solid with garbled graphics on the screen.     I reset, and it froze in boot.    I reset again -- three rings of death.    I reset again -- frozen but no rings.    Again --  three rings of death again.   I reset again -- it lets me play a while longer.

I just turned it off and will let it rest overnight.    I'm assuming I can count on the permanent three rings within days, is that right?     

Two consoles in a week go out on me.   I'm forced to go to EQ2 and hope my computer doesn't fail me.   I have triple video game redundancy -- so if two fail I can still computer game.      Not sure what I'll do if the computer goes too.   paranoid
2088  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Supreme Court Smacks Bushies Again... on: June 16, 2008, 11:26:06 PM

Allow me to read the decision and I'll then comment.     Dinner time first, then get the rugrats to bed, and then I'll read it.
2089  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Return to Everquest 2 on: June 16, 2008, 11:07:52 PM

Quote from: Razgon on June 16, 2008, 09:22:25 AM

I never tried the PVP servers on EQ2 - are they really any fun? or is it just mindless being ganked upon as every other MMO PVP server?

I like EQ2 actually...fun classes and great looking game

And most important to me right now:   the scaling of the graphics actually MAKES IT PLAYABLE.   ARE YOU READING THIS You BUNCH OF GARBAGE CODERS OVER AT FUNCOM??????

Ok sorry snapped for a minute there.
2090  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: See you all in 6-7 months!!! on: June 16, 2008, 11:05:23 PM

Take care of yourself out there Kato.    And if you want some of us to write you, let us know!  You could zip Hark your mailing address when you get there.
2091  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Supreme Court Smacks Bushies Again... on: June 16, 2008, 03:22:20 AM

Quote from: Eightball on June 16, 2008, 02:53:01 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 15, 2008, 02:51:11 PM


Just any day now the Court will hand down the decision about the 2nd Amendment.      paranoid eek

Yes.   I'm scared.

Apples and Oranges, msd.

Oh I realize that.    But it reminded me that the decision is pending any day.    I'd let it slip under my radar screen.
2092  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Supreme Court Smacks Bushies Again... on: June 16, 2008, 03:21:23 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 15, 2008, 03:40:55 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 15, 2008, 02:51:11 PM


Just any day now the Court will hand down the decision about the 2nd Amendment.      paranoid eek

Yes.   I'm scared.

Why?  With this ultra-conservative court, I doubt there's any real danger to the 2nd Amendment.  That's a good thing, too...I hope they fully reject the position of the District of Columbia. 

Oh shit, there goes my "good liberal" card.    paranoid icon_wink slywink

No worries Blackadar.   The 2nd Amendment is one of those issues that transcends parties.    As an NRA recruiter I signed up a ton of Democrats and self professed liberals.   
2093  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My MGS4 Experience (aka: PS3 decides not to work) on: June 16, 2008, 03:13:14 AM

Took the PS3 over and plugged it into my dad's Sharp Aquos today through an HDMI input we both knew worked.   No dice.

I think (and hope) I've discovered the problem.   I'm calling Sony tomorrow.
2094  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: PIck My Car on: June 15, 2008, 08:01:17 PM

Quote from: D.A.Lewis on June 14, 2008, 11:54:26 PM

Its over - I went with my heart instead of my head and got . . . . . .

A MINI Cooper
http://www.miniusa.com/#/learn/FACTS_FEATURES_SPECS/Top_Features/|mini-m
 eek


got a wild yellow car with white sunroof and pin stripes
and my wifey completely approves

went there looking for a MINI cooper clubman but they are way to popular
and the dealer is putting a 2000 market adjustment on all clubmans
plus he only had three on the lot and the typical order takes 10 to 12 weeks

the MINI I got gets
28 city - 36 hwy
and I put out for the extended warranty
and basically all I have to do is oil, and change the tires for 5 years

curiously the car has a feature that shows how many miles
(not gas) are remaining in the fuel tank. Because I drive a lot
of freeway I acutally ended up with almost the same mileage remaining when I got home

the car is fast and looks like a space ship on the inside
there are all kind of computer components
like blue tooth, rain sensing, light sensing,  etc etc etc

the MINI dealership was far busier than any I had been too (honda, toyota, chevy, mazda, dodge).
the sales folks weren't pushy and were all rather pleasant
there deal closing is marvelous and they want no one to leave with buyers regret

Most fun I had car buying in a long time
thanks people all for all the advise
but the MINI is the type of car that may be a crazy purchase but
at least I don't need a second mortgage due to this little out break on insanity.

Did you get a standard cooper or a cooper S?
2095  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Supreme Court Smacks Bushies Again... on: June 15, 2008, 02:51:11 PM

Just any day now the Court will hand down the decision about the 2nd Amendment.      paranoid eek

Yes.   I'm scared.
2096  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Return to Everquest 2 on: June 15, 2008, 02:38:28 PM
Hark and I have been playing EQ2 the last couple days.    I could see myself getting back into this until Warhammer comes out.   AoC is garbage code and won't downscale to my PC even though every other title on the shelf including Crysis is able to do so. 

Anyway.....   EQ on a PVP server is a blast.   Join us!   We're still low level.
2097  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I'm Voting Republican on: June 15, 2008, 02:18:18 PM

Quote from: Brendan on June 13, 2008, 05:31:53 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X on June 13, 2008, 05:02:34 PM

I think you just set a perfect example of "my shit don't stink."

I figured someone'd respond that way - I just assumed it would be Cheeba.

I'm perfectly willing to concede the various stupidities inflicted by democrats.  Obama's health care proposal, for example, which doesn't cover every uninsured American, pisses me off.  Clinton's gas tax holiday was a pander, just like McCain's.  William Jefferson is a crook and deserves to go to jail.  Dennis Kucinich, bless his little elfin peace-lovin' heart, should not be allowed on television. 

There's a million stupid things the Democrats do, things that are inefficient and ham-handed, and I'm willing to concede them all, because when it comes down to it, the fundamental belief of the democratic party is that government has a responsibility to help take care of Americans, whereas the republicans push this mantra of "personal responsibility" that makes discrimination and unemployment the problem of the individual, rather than society's.

Ultimately, which is the group that truly pretends their shit don't stink?  I'd argue it's the "love it or leave it" crowd that refuse to acknowledge any valid criticisms of the status quo.  Which is the party denying global warming?  Which is the party that continually refuses to abide by the rule of law?  Which is the party who impeached a president for "perjury", but blocks impeachment of a president who, I think most people can now acknowledges, misled the country into a trillion dollar war?  Which party mocked the purple heart and military service of a senator and war hero?

And that is the root of the problem.   I believe that the government shouldn't be in the business of being responsible for people except in those functions the framers set forth.    Liberty and 'government having the responsibility to take care of people' don't mix.   Because the government doesn't stop at taking care of people in bad situations...they by default open the umbrella over everyone and that encourages people to never better themselves.    See:  Jamestown Virginia.

Am I saying the government should never help out anyone?   No.    But my idea of helping out those that need it versus funneling many major areas of traditional responsibility through the government to manage is very different than yours.

Edit:  And it's ok that we disagree on this.   They were having the exact same argument 232 years ago.
2098  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I'm Voting Republican on: June 15, 2008, 02:08:31 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X on June 13, 2008, 05:02:34 PM

Quote from: Brendan on June 13, 2008, 04:50:51 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on June 13, 2008, 04:20:08 PM

I also find it funny that while the Conservatives try to mask their own odors by opening the windows and turning the fan on, the Liberals pretend their shit doesn't stink at all.

I honestly have no idea what you mean here - and whether you mean it generally about The World At Large, or specifically about people who post here on GT.  In the case of the latter, I'm certainly willing to debate the merits of any idea, and my experience here is that "the liberals" at GT are far better informed about politics than "the conservatives" at GT.  In the case of the former, I'm still bewildered by the assertion, so perhaps you could provide an instructive case study.
I think you just set a perfect example of "my shit don't stink."
icon_lol
2099  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: PIck My Car - PICKED on: June 15, 2008, 01:04:05 PM
Did you know:

1.  You can hit the start button on your car without your foot on either the brake or the clutch pedal, you can set your preferences for the mini?

2.  Once you complete step one above, you use the button on the end of the headlight switch to change things such as the number of blinks the turn signals do when lane changing, whether or not your doors require two pulls on the handle to open, pathway lighting, etc.

3.  When the temperature drops to 37 degrees you will get a warning tone that lets you know icing conditions might exist.

4. You have to name your mini

5. Learn what magnetic badges and badge holders are.     It's a Mini obsession.

6. www.northamericanmotoring.com
2100  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: PIck My Car on: June 15, 2008, 12:55:05 PM
Quote
Maybe it's the luxury of where I live.  I've done my research already.  I know I will probably get a Focus.  There are 32 Ford dealerships for me to choose from in the Metro area alone.  I prefer to buy a car right off the lot inventory.  I could hit a dozen dealerships and test drive individual vehicles in one day.  I can get a tow yard to pay me and take my title on the day my car breaks down.  And I believe I can off the dead car under personal disaster on my taxes.  (I've never done this before but turbo tax asks me about these sorts of disasters every year)

You can also donate the car to charity and get a tax credit.
2101  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: PIck My Car - PICKED on: June 15, 2008, 12:52:10 PM
PS:   Let's see some photos!

PPS:  I'd like to see photos of The Meal's too
2102  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: PIck My Car - PICKED on: June 15, 2008, 12:50:50 PM
Gratz!!   Two minis in a week for gamingtrend.    Neal is no longer alone!


I decided to order mine.    Nashville Mini charged me MSRP, but gave me a break on assessories and installation.

I patterned my car after these two photos.   It will be chili red with checkerboard roof, checkerboard mirrors, and the Rooster Red interior.



2103  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tim Russert dead [confirmed] on: June 14, 2008, 01:42:50 PM

Quote from: Zarkon on June 14, 2008, 01:10:30 AM

I just have to chime in here.

Yes, it's sad that he died.  However.

WHY in the HELL does this merit a 'special breaking news' break into television shows on networks other than NBC, and why does it merit 3-4+ hours of continuous coverage, on a day where Des Moines, Iowa is being EVACUATED and there's a big fire going on somewhere? 

Because Tim didn't choose to build his entire life in a known flood zone, and then expect the government (and therefore taxpayers) to bail him out when the inevitable flood happens?

/ducks and runs
2104  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My MGS4 Experience (aka: PS3 decides not to work) on: June 14, 2008, 01:27:30 PM

Quote from: Canuck on June 14, 2008, 07:14:19 AM

Come on PS3!! Let's hope it's just MSDuncans crappy TV!

Good lord I hope it is the PS3.    Sharp will charge me to come out and repair the TV.     (and I have a deductable on my insurance)
2105  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My MGS4 Experience (aka: PS3 decides not to work) on: June 13, 2008, 11:06:47 PM
I may do that.

I just thought of something:   we're going to my parents for father's day on Sunday.   I'll lug my PS3 along.   They have the exact same television that I do.    That will be a good test case for the PS3.

2106  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My MGS4 Experience (aka: PS3 decides not to work) on: June 13, 2008, 09:19:09 PM

that is my next step.... to see if the PS3 works on someone else's TV.

If it does -- then I'm going to assume it's the TV.   I think I covered any handshake issues by doing all of the above mentioned plus reformatting.
2107  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tim Russert dead [confirmed] on: June 13, 2008, 08:05:34 PM
I liked him too.    He will be missed.   It's sad because he would have found this fall the most exciting of his career since this race is so interesting.
2108  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My MGS4 Experience (aka: PS3 decides not to work) on: June 13, 2008, 08:01:48 PM

Ok... I hooked my computer to the TV with a DVI to HDMI cable and couldn't get it to come up.     It was the best test I could do to determine since I have no other HDMI out devices.    I still can't be sure it's the TV though because I can't be sure I did it correctly.

This sucks.   I don't know whether to call a TV repair service or to call Sony.
2109  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Tim Russert dead [confirmed] on: June 13, 2008, 07:34:23 PM
Drudgereport is reporting that Tim Russert has died of a heartattack.

breaking on all news outlets, but here's a link to msnbc as a nod to him:

Tim Russert dead at 58
2110  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My MGS4 Experience (aka: PS3 decides not to work) on: June 13, 2008, 11:21:54 AM
I get no light.   This is the second time this has happened -- I'm getting a little mad about it. 

HDMI just ****s out and stops working.    I don't have another HDMI device with which to test my TV to make sure it's not the problem.  frown

2111  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / My MGS4 Experience (aka: PS3 decides not to work) on: June 13, 2008, 05:03:07 AM

Came home tonight to find my family watching a movie on the old TV upstairs.    Asked what was up, and wife informs me the PS3 doesn't work.

I rushed downstairs to find that the sound works fine on my PS3, but no HDMI signal.    Last time this happened I tried all the tricks and wound up sending both the PS3 to be replaced my Sony, and having a repairman out to my house to swap out the Sharp's control board.

Things I tried tonight since I got home:

1.  Holding down power button 7 secs until it powers off.  Bringing back up -- no dice
2.  Holding down power button upon bootup until I hear 2 beeps.    No dice.
3.  Powering off via the power switch on the back and then powering back on -- and doing that plus items 1 and 2 -- no dice, no dice, no dice.
4.  Unplugging from TV -- plugging back in no dice, again but then powering on without plugs, powering off, doing 1, 2, and 3 above and no dice. no dice, no dice.
5.  Plugging PS3 in with component cables -- works!
6.  Plugged components in with HDMI in as well -- told me it found HDMI do I want to swtich -- I say yes.   No dice blank screen.
7.  Restored factory settings on TV and did 1 through 6 above.   No dice x 6

And the last two drastic steps I'm on right now:
8.  Did a backup of the PS3 to my 250 gig portable HD
9.  Doing a full restore that will take 3 hours and wipe all my progress (over a MONTH of play) on GTA4.  frown

This is my hail mary pass.    I thought about just working off component...but to me there is a noticable difference in sharpness even on the playstation screen.   Screw that, my HDMI is supposed to work and so I want it to work.

 icon_frown icon_frown icon_mad icon_mad icon_mad icon_mad icon_mad icon_mad
2112  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Economic Plans on: June 12, 2008, 11:06:47 AM

Quote from: gellar on June 12, 2008, 03:59:02 AM

Quote from: Brendan on June 12, 2008, 03:46:08 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 12, 2008, 03:37:42 AM

You can place all sorts of justifications on it.   I simply boiled it down to what it is:   taxing the rich, and taxing the oil companies.

Posts like this are why you can never credibly complain about anything political.  You have no interest in honest discussion.

Yeah but I can play his game too.  It's fun.  Watch:

McCain's plan amounts to taxing less and spending more.  It's PROTOTYPICALLY American.  When the citizens of a country live out of their means on a constant basis, why the fuck can't the government?  Maybe Visa will give us the money.

gellar

Obama's taxes more and spends more.     We need taxes less and spends less.     

But if I had to choose between what we have in front of us, I'm going to choose taxes less every time.   People who think taxes on corporations or the capital holders in this country doesn't affect them directly are kidding themselves.   Keynesian economics don't work.
2113  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Economic Plans on: June 12, 2008, 11:03:27 AM

Quote from: Brendan on June 12, 2008, 03:46:08 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 12, 2008, 03:37:42 AM

You can place all sorts of justifications on it.   I simply boiled it down to what it is:   taxing the rich, and taxing the oil companies.

Posts like this are why you can never credibly complain about anything political.  You have no interest in honest discussion.

2114  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Economic Plans on: June 12, 2008, 03:37:42 AM

Quote from: Brendan on June 11, 2008, 11:34:15 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 11, 2008, 11:29:23 PM

Quote from: Brendan on June 11, 2008, 02:40:21 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on June 11, 2008, 12:29:31 PM

In fairness the same thing could be said about the Fox News story at the top of the thread.

After reading through several articles on both candidate's proposals in the last few days I like Obama's better.  Neither is perfect, but unless I get a big raise over the next four year to over $250K per year Obama's plan would suit me best. Provided he follows through with his claims and is able to get most of his policies through Congress. 

I have no particular issue with the Fox News story - just with msduncan's "summary".

As far as getting policies through congress, the Democrats will control the house again, and will almost certainly increase their control in the senate, so it's more likely that Obama can deliver on his plan than McCain.

What's wrong with my summary?   Is it not accurate?    Tax the rich and tax oil company profits.     

If you were sincerely attempting to understand Obama's economic proposals, you could make a list of pros/cons, details sources of funding and destinations of funding, etc, but instead you picked out two red-meat conservative issues and presented them in context-less fashion.


You can place all sorts of justifications on it.   I simply boiled it down to what it is:   taxing the rich, and taxing the oil companies.
2115  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Hmmm. What if: Hilary = VP? Does That Sway Your Vote to McCain? on: June 12, 2008, 12:56:18 AM

Quote from: Geezer on June 09, 2008, 10:11:09 PM

Quote from: Brendan on June 09, 2008, 10:05:56 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 09, 2008, 10:00:06 PM

Quote from: Brendan on June 09, 2008, 09:54:07 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 09, 2008, 09:43:47 PM

Sorry all the stuff Obama wants to have the government pay for isnt going to be free.  So yes there will be some tax increases to pay for it, it will just be on the 'wealthy' which we all know is a hated class of people by his party.   And it took me about 2 seconds to find that information on his website.

brettmcd, your usual cogent analysis is lacking in this response - particularly because there's a large section in Obama's plan that describes his support for PAYGO, which he's voted for three times in the senate.  Yes, the tax cuts for the wealthiest one percent of the country will expire - but normal people in low and middle-income tax brackets (who actually need tax breaks) will see a larger child and dependent care tax credit, an expanded EITC, a payroll tax credit of $500, no taxes on seniors making under 50k a year, a $4,000 tax credit for college students who do 100 volunteer hours, tax credits to incent new farmers, etc.

You claimed that saying there would not be more taxes, you claimed that saying there would be more taxes is, as a bs claim.   It took me 2 seconds to find that yes there will be new taxes. on the hated 'wealthy' in this country.   So would you like to retract your statement that saying there will be more taxes is bs?

Dearest brettmcd, you know as well as I do that the tax burden on low and middle income people will be reduced under an Obama presidency, yet you insist on being a pedant.  If I were to indulge in the same sophistry, I'd point out that Obama won't be raising taxes - he just won't be signing any bills that extend the current moronic and fiscally irresponsible tax cut plan that the republicans passed previously.

Actually I think the tax plan itself was quite sound - if biased in a way that I find personally irritating.  It's the moronic and fiscally irresponsible spending that is the problem.

Spending has been out of control.     It was out of control during 40 years of democrat control as well... and there was a brief period during Newt's tenure where it was finally under control.   I miss Newt in congress.
2116  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Hmmm. What if: Hilary = VP? Does That Sway Your Vote to McCain? on: June 12, 2008, 12:49:30 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 09, 2008, 09:48:13 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 09, 2008, 09:43:47 PM

Sorry all the stuff Obama wants to have the government pay for isnt going to be free.  So yes there will be some tax increases to pay for it, it will just be on the 'wealthy' which we all know is a hated class of people by his party.   And it took me about 2 seconds to find that information on his website.

Not hated, just disproportionately benefited from the Bush tax cuts.

I am no where NEAR wealthy, and I benefited from the tax cuts.
2117  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Economic Plans on: June 11, 2008, 11:29:23 PM

Quote from: Brendan on June 11, 2008, 02:40:21 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on June 11, 2008, 12:29:31 PM

In fairness the same thing could be said about the Fox News story at the top of the thread.

After reading through several articles on both candidate's proposals in the last few days I like Obama's better.  Neither is perfect, but unless I get a big raise over the next four year to over $250K per year Obama's plan would suit me best. Provided he follows through with his claims and is able to get most of his policies through Congress. 

I have no particular issue with the Fox News story - just with msduncan's "summary".

As far as getting policies through congress, the Democrats will control the house again, and will almost certainly increase their control in the senate, so it's more likely that Obama can deliver on his plan than McCain.

What's wrong with my summary?   Is it not accurate?    Tax the rich and tax oil company profits.     
2118  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Economic Plans on: June 11, 2008, 01:24:40 AM

Quote from: Brendan on June 11, 2008, 12:13:13 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 11, 2008, 12:08:05 AM

Fox news is the highest rated news source.

I assume you mean "has the highest ratings for a cable news network", because they've always been derided for their accuracy.   Yes, it's true.  In other news, the New York Post has a higher daily circulation than the Washington Post, so it must be a more reliable news outlet.
Derided by who?  Non-biased news outlets?

Of course we should just agree to disagree and actually discuss the issues instead of pissing on each other.    I meant for this thread to do just that until you jumped in with the snark attack right off the bat.
2119  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Economic Plans on: June 11, 2008, 01:17:56 AM

Quote from: Biyobi on June 11, 2008, 12:13:59 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 11, 2008, 12:08:05 AM

CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST.     A conservative channel is the highest rated now, and every time it pisses people off like this I LOVE it.

Of course it's the highest rated.  All the ultra right wingnuts have exactly one outlet the tells them what they want to hear.  The rest of us lefty wingnuts get to pick and choose among many, diversifying their numbers. icon_wink

Actually it's also probably due to all the hot chicks on the channel.
2120  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ironrod: McCain supports manned exploration of Mars on: June 11, 2008, 12:15:55 AM

Quote from: PaulBot on June 11, 2008, 12:10:23 AM

I wish our government would quit spending all those [gold pieces] on hunting for [trade routes] and use the money here [in europe] where we need it. We don't need to send humans [off the edge of the globe].
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