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2081  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: When was the last time someone changed your mind on an P/RN topic? on: June 25, 2008, 12:55:15 AM
I'll bite:

I changed my mind on 2 things in the OO forum that I can think of off the top of my head:

1.  I once accused liberals as being traitors and un-American.     Based on the (you guessed it -- FLOOD) of feedback I got, I completely changed my heart on this issue, not just my mind.   The responses weren't even as flaming as you'd expect....they called me to the carpet and made me realize that people on the opposite end of the spectrum as me (see:  Blackadar) are NOT any of those things.   They are Americans who want the same thing that I do:  a prosperous, secure, and free America.    It's the method or path to get there where we disagree.      Seeing someone as having good intentions but seeing a different path to get there makes you see them in a vastly different light than seeing someone that is anti-American or unpatriotic.

2.  Abu Graib and torture:    Initially I was of the "so what?  these guys are murderous terrorists in these prisons and they deserve what they get camp".   And the "especially if certain methods can save American lives" camp.      Then OO turned my opinion to think that if we are to remain the country that is the beacon of hope for the world, we cannot allow ourselves to stoop to the same moral level as our enemies, no matter how dirty they fight.     We have to maintain justice and liberty.     This is one reason why, shocking probably to some, I agreed with the decision last week by the SCOTUS to allow prisoners to challenge their detention in court.

So yes... some of us are capable of changing our minds.     I'll be the first to admit that it is rare -- but it does happen.

Edit to add:   Dangit Ironrod, you reminded me.     I followed the same course as you on gay marriage.    Fireball has a lot to do with my acceptance of the issue as a civil rights issue rather than political correctness.    Thank you Fireball.
2082  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Roll Tide! on: June 25, 2008, 12:42:45 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on June 25, 2008, 12:21:32 AM

Damn that Shula!  Serves them right for not hiring an alum.  Oh wait . . .

Oh well, he's definately the worst coach they've ever had.  Oh wait . . .
 icon_wink

Good thing Nick's in charge now.  He's clean as a whistle, the perfect guy to clean things up.

As an aside, I heard today that every coach in the SEC now makes at least a $1.5m base salary, compared to only two in the Pac 10.   icon_eek


Yeah... in true one-upmanship fashion, LSU made Miles (who is btw an idiot), the highest paid coach just to unseat Saban.
2083  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 25, 2008, 12:16:06 AM

More rating info:

The Sony return box was Next Day delivery:  +1
The Microsoft return box was UPS Ground:  -
2084  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Roll Tide! on: June 25, 2008, 12:12:20 AM

 These arrests are left overs from Shula's recruits.... one of the most undisciplined bunch ever to come out of Alabama.

We have the #1 recruiting class this year, and things are heading in the right direction.    The team finally 'gets it' on the field, and with Johns gone, it's a step closer to getting the bad apples out of this program for good.

2085  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 05:52:49 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on June 23, 2008, 05:16:08 PM


Let's pretend for a moment that such wild supposition could be backed up with clips of all the nasty race-based innuendo lobbed at Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice by major media outlets like CNN and MSNBC -- which it can't.  How would that excuse the *actual* nasty race-based innuendo propagated by Fox News or Rush "Barack the Magic Negro" Limbaugh, or justify msduncan's anger at Obama for calling them out about it?

Because I'm not a goddamn racist, but he called me out about it too since I'm a Republican.

First of all:   quite pretending the Democrats are innocent.
Secondly:  neither of those people were a candidate for President.

Quote
partisan liberal opinions

We differ on partisan opinions.    I have my own partisan opinions on how foreign and domestic policy has been the last decade.
2086  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 01:21:14 PM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 23, 2008, 07:11:28 AM

The neocon arm of the Republican party built it's core over racism fear mongering (before the democrats owned it prior, especially in the south). It's pretty well documented and runs back to HW Bush's run for Senate back in the 60s. A bunch of 'country club' Republicans were able to turn a tiny party in Texas into a major contender through such tactics, it's the base of the party's votes...

But Obama is correct in what he is saying. Any idiot can figure out any opponent he goes up against will have people working behind the scenes to make him look like a 'terrorist' or play up the fact he's black - and associates with 'black radicals', the scariest people on the planet! Other democrats have used his race and upbringing against him indirectly tons already - I don't know why it's so shocking to hear him saying that. Actually - it's redundant for him to say. Everyone knows that's the best way to beat him - since it's always worked due to our national retardation and hypocracy that we are 'all created equal'. This country has come a long way in terms of race/gender/religion, but it's nowhere near the bullshit we're fed. He's black, his middle name is "Hussein" and I've seen both references enough to make me sick to my stomach. He's a man, just like McCain -- and he's running for President, that's all that SHOULD matter, but for some reason that has nothing to do with what's going on. 'McCain is old'. blah - same crap. Why does it matter? Do news shows have nothing else to talk about?

No they don't.    All of the new organizations make their living from filling time on cable stations that run continuously 24 hours a day.   The networks, on the flip side, constantly try to steal attention and ratings from the cable stations in the shorter time they have airtime to talk.  This is asking for dumb things to be said, and dumb ideas to be covered.
2087  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 03:45:21 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on June 23, 2008, 03:29:28 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 23, 2008, 03:21:37 AM



And my point was that Obama basically lumped all Republicans into the racist bunch by making the statements he did.    He said Republicans (that's me) will use race against me.   *I* am not, and neither is Huckabee or many other Republicans that understand the significance of his nomination.   But he's already labeled us as racist by making statements like that.    And I take offense.

That's a plausible reading.  Generalizations, as common as they are in modern politics, are regrettable.

How do you feel about throwing the first stone regarding generalizations?

I long ago apologized about the generalizations of which you speak, and they were on the other forum besides.   I am also not running for President on a platform that supposedly changes direction from that.   

btw -- I'm still self enforcing a break from OO R&P until the conventions, as I promised.
2088  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 03:21:37 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 23, 2008, 01:40:08 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 22, 2008, 01:59:05 PM

Well like I said again -- many of those quotes were taken out of context.    The few that weren't probably equal out to the same left-slanted jabbering from the CNN's and MSNBC's out there.

Interestingly enough, I had to go to the UK to get the best sense of the quotes - the NY times article states that the most inflammatory one may not even be accurate.

Ultimately, I feel that those who stand to gain the most from a Republican President will attack Obama in any way possible, and the email and tv ads listed above will continue.  They will not necessarily be officially Republican, but the bottom line is that in this election more so than any other, those who see race first may well do anything to stop him, more than other Republicans, and the fact of the matter is that Obama has to defend against all of these attacks and attack back. 

One of the tools he has to use to defend against these attacks is the fact that some of them are racially motivated.  The Democrats have seen what happens when you ignore slurs from anyone of questionable character in the past, and getting the Republicans to police their more "out-there" supporters helps Obama.

And my point was that Obama basically lumped all Republicans into the racist bunch by making the statements he did.    He said Republicans (that's me) will use race against me.   *I* am not, and neither is Huckabee or many other Republicans that understand the significance of his nomination.   But he's already labeled us as racist by making statements like that.    And I take offense.
2089  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 03:18:29 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 23, 2008, 12:50:38 AM

Quote from: deadzone on June 23, 2008, 12:23:19 AM

MSD in my opinion, your anger is misplaced about the article - I just don't see what you are talking about.  The fact is that Obama is right.  This country was built on racism and thrives on racism.  You are fooling yourself if you don't think this going to be the ugliest, most racially charged, Presidential Election ever.  It goes without saying that it's going to come from the Republican Base, afterall, they don't want a Deomcrat to win they want a Republican to win. 

This is going to be so ugly to see.  Hope this country is ready for it and I sure hope that it doesn't destroy our country. 

His democratic opponent and her supporters went down this path, i didnt know they were part of the republican base.  Guess one learns something new every day.

I think what deadzone was saying -- and correct me if I'm wrong dead -- is that politics is dirty and this will get as dirty as it ever has.    And if the shoe was on the other foot and there was a Republican African American candidate -- some Democrats would be pulling out all the stops--including race--to take them down, dirty or not.

Is that what you were saying deadzone?
2090  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 23, 2008, 12:43:13 AM

Quote from: Canuck on June 22, 2008, 01:28:59 PM

Interesting to see how this plays out.  What is Sony charging you for? The shipping?  I wonder which turnaround time will be faster-I'm guessing the 360.  They should have it down to a perfected science by now smile

Sony is charging me $150 for a problem that seems to be rather common on the internet -- HDMI output going out.    (I'm out of warranty)

M$ recognized their console weakness and extended the original warrany for red rings.
2091  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: MINI Cooper -- building it on: June 22, 2008, 03:01:53 PM

Quote from: ChaoZ on June 22, 2008, 02:44:30 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 22, 2008, 01:57:00 PM

Mini Cooper has been ordered for a week or so.

It's been produced in Oxford and is waiting to be picked up for transport to the docks.

That's pretty quick.
What did you decide on for your final configuration/colors?

Funny you mention that.    I'm still having trouble deciding on dealer options.    The car produced is Chili Red with black roof and mirrors.   It has a black and red interior like the picture earlier in this thread.

My wife is lobbying that I cancel the dealer applied checkerboard decal and go with the black roof with dark window tint.    I'm still digging the checkerboard.

However, even if I do go with the checkerboard, someone recommended going with a vendor rather than dealer.   The reason is that the vendors sell full vinyl sheets that cover the entire roof.    The dealer decals apparently only cover the white squares and so the black paint is exposed for the contrast color.    Some folks claim that this could cause the roof to fade in a checkerboard pattern and also be difficult to wash without messing up.   

Getting it from one of the vendors will be about 100 more and not be rolled into the loan like the dealer one would be.

So I'm sitting here debating.
2092  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 22, 2008, 01:59:05 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on June 22, 2008, 01:30:50 PM

Quote from: msduncan
If you guys are going to lump every loony's comments out there as 'the republicans', then it is fair game for me to talk about how the Democrats want to nationalize oil refineries and socialize America, among many other things the extreme left fringe is saying.

As I said to brettmcd, if you want to denounce all those Fox News clips as the work of jabbering lunatics, you won't get much of a fight from me.  Just don't forget that less than two weeks ago you also championed it as "a conservative channel."

-Autistic Angel

Well like I said again -- many of those quotes were taken out of context.    The few that weren't probably equal out to the same left-slanted jabbering from the CNN's and MSNBC's out there.
2093  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: MINI Cooper -- building it on: June 22, 2008, 01:57:00 PM
Mini Cooper has been ordered for a week or so.

It's been produced in Oxford and is waiting to be picked up for transport to the docks.
2094  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 22, 2008, 01:16:20 PM
BTW -- My PS3 console coffin is here too.    I'll be able to report side by side on how service from the two play out.

First impression:

Microsoft was free:  +1
Sony was not:  -

Second:
Microsoft got the box to me a day earlier:  +1
Sony did not:   -
2095  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 22, 2008, 01:12:49 PM

Quote from: helot2000 on June 22, 2008, 05:38:56 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 21, 2008, 10:28:11 PM

He's not 'my guy' so I don't have a lot of nice things to say about him.   'My guy' was governor Huckabee, who got my vote in the primaries and won my state.
Your guy had some pretty good tips for Republicans this week.  In his own words...

Quote
What I am saying is that we need to challenge Obama on the basis that his ideas are the wrong ones—not attacking him personally. If people spend their time repeating a bunch of internet driven drivel about his middle name (he didn’t choose his anymore than I chose mine), or his race (I do sincerely celebrate that our country has moved to a place where a person’s race doesn’t limit him from aspiring to the highest office in our land, but I just believe that due to his proposals and lack of substantive experience, he’s gone far enough—not because of his race, but because of his sincere, but misguided proposals), or his church (there are far more important reasons for us to elect Senator McCain than where Obama went to church).

Elections ought to be about elevating the best ideas and exposing the worst ones—not engaging in character assassination with half truths, innuendoes, and disputable “internet facts.”
Testify Huckabee, testify...

My absolute favorite for President, Newt Gingrich, has been saying the same thing for months.     I'm not disputing the fact that we need to have a plan and run on it as Newt (and Huckabee) say.   I'm disputing the idea counter to my original post that Republicans are running on race.   They aren't.   They are running on a weak message from a weak candidate.   

If you guys are going to lump every loony's comments out there as 'the republicans', then it is fair game for me to talk about how the Democrats want to nationalize oil refineries and socialize America, among many other things the extreme left fringe is saying.
2096  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Bush calls for congress to open areas for drilling on: June 22, 2008, 01:43:21 AM

Quote from: papasmurff on June 21, 2008, 09:29:59 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 21, 2008, 09:21:53 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080621/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_ylt=AtgVMlEwlFi9YrCL0aj8wg2s0NUE

Good, drilling for more of our own oil is one of many things we need to do to help with our energy problems.  Other things would be allowing new nuclear power plants to be built, working on sensable conservation plans and work towards more workable renewable energy sources then we currently have.

my thoughts...meh...bush would call for more drilling...He has to make his money.

ON the note of nuclear power plants....everyone likes them...nobody wants them in their communities.

This is 100% true.   I work for a utility, and the main obstacle to Nuke power is communities not wanting to host them.
2097  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Bush calls for congress to open areas for drilling on: June 22, 2008, 01:42:15 AM

Quote from: ATB on June 21, 2008, 09:28:53 PM

I'm torn on this.  I don't think oil drilling will solve any problems, but it definitely has the potential to be an environmental disaster.  In any case, it's a band-aid and the repubs way of making themselves look like they are trying.

It buys us time to develop and make affordable a replacement to oil.

As it is our economy will buckle before we can get anything out there researched and designed.
2098  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 22, 2008, 01:39:24 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 22, 2008, 01:35:02 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 22, 2008, 01:31:53 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 22, 2008, 01:26:08 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 21, 2008, 07:31:46 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 21, 2008, 06:49:50 PM

Are you just angry because the man is right?  We've already seen numerous examples of it (check out http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php/topic,27532.0.html).  I'm glad he called them out.

Seriously, I don't think I can even relate to your anger on this one. 

I discount what you are saying.   Why?  Because you've twice played the bigot card on me in these forums.
It's ridiculous.

It seems you're just angry that your ilk aren't getting a free pass to promote their unique brand of sleaze under cover of darkness. 

My "ilk"?    Roll Eyes

"ilk" - noun
1.   family, class, or kind: he and all his ilk.

My apologies for overestimating your intellect.

And you immediately go personal.   You can't have a conversation without going personal, can you Blackadar?   
2099  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 22, 2008, 01:38:09 AM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on June 21, 2008, 11:35:31 PM

Earlier this week, I received an e-mail chain letter purporting to "reveal the *real* Obama!!!" with a series of unsourced, context-free quotes which show him to be a bitter, angry, anti-white racist.  I doubt it was authored by a democrat; it certainly wasn't forwarded by one.

When you add in the rumors that Barack Obama is a radical Muslim who hates America because he's secretly sworn allegiance to "black Africa", plus the repeated Fox News slurs, I think it's perfectly fair to call out the Republicans out for their continuing pattern of race-baiting.

Quote from: msduncan
Hey Obama?   F___ you. finger finger finger

I hope you have a more articulate response ready for me than you did for Obama.

-Autistic Angel

Let's examine the videos by link"

"Repeated" -- watched the entire video.   Nothing racial about this at all.   They commented that it was an intimate way of communicating between Michele and Barack.   Her Terrorist Fist Jab comment was repeating titles to bloggers and stories about it that were all on fire those couple days afterwards.

"Fox News"  --  a link to a conglomeration of out of context snippets?   Do you even know what the conversation was when any of these quotes happened?

"slurs" -- use of a Michele Obamaism.   She's the one that quoted it first.
"
2100  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 22, 2008, 01:31:53 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 22, 2008, 01:26:08 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 21, 2008, 07:31:46 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 21, 2008, 06:49:50 PM

Are you just angry because the man is right?  We've already seen numerous examples of it (check out http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php/topic,27532.0.html).  I'm glad he called them out.

Seriously, I don't think I can even relate to your anger on this one. 

I discount what you are saying.   Why?  Because you've twice played the bigot card on me in these forums.
It's ridiculous.

It seems you're just angry that your ilk aren't getting a free pass to promote their unique brand of sleaze under cover of darkness. 

My "ilk"?    Roll Eyes
2101  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 22, 2008, 01:22:20 AM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on June 21, 2008, 11:35:31 PM

Earlier this week, I received an e-mail chain letter purporting to "reveal the *real* Obama!!!" with a series of unsourced, context-free quotes which show him to be a bitter, angry, anti-white racist.  I doubt it was authored by a democrat; it certainly wasn't forwarded by one.

When you add in the rumors that Barack Obama is a radical Muslim who hates America because he's secretly sworn allegiance to "black Africa", plus the repeated Fox News slurs, I think it's perfectly fair to call out the Republicans out for their continuing pattern of race-baiting.

Quote from: msduncan
Hey Obama?   F___ you. finger finger finger

I hope you have a more articulate response ready for me than you did for Obama.

-Autistic Angel

So you are calling out Republicans for undocumented, unclaimed, anonymous internet chain emails?    What if they came from the Clinton camp?   She has the most to gain other than McCain in Obama losing....
2102  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 21, 2008, 10:28:11 PM

Quote from: helot2000 on June 21, 2008, 08:59:04 PM

Quote
"It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy," Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. "We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to make you afraid.

Here's an idea, ms...start a thread on McCain that puts the lie to Obama's quote above.  Tell us something about your guy that would or should encourage the fence sitters to your position.  It's only fair that I assign myself an equally challenging task so I will watch patiently the next five months to see if Republicans run a campaign based on (1) substance or (2) making voters afraid.  I'm hopeful with McCain that it will be more of (1) than (2) but too many Republicans learned the wrong lessons from Rove. 

He's not 'my guy' so I don't have a lot of nice things to say about him.   'My guy' was governor Huckabee, who got my vote in the primaries and won my state.

2103  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 21, 2008, 10:24:09 PM

Quote from: Captain Caveman on June 21, 2008, 07:36:35 PM

I don't know how much of this will come directly from the McCain campaign (though already statements claiming Hamas wants Obama to win, and those questioning he and his wife's patriotism, arguably have racial undertones),

Of course they don't (have racial undertones).    Hamas endorsed Obama publically.    Naturally Obama rejected the endorsement, but that is where that came from.

As for the patriotism?   I've questioned (wrongly) peoples' patriotism on OO before, and it had nothing to do with race.
2104  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 21, 2008, 07:36:24 PM

Quote from: Brendan on June 21, 2008, 07:34:12 PM

Funniest thread of the day.

Paraphrasing msduncan:  "It's not okay for Senator Obama to warn people about Republican tactics until we've deployed them more widely."

It's cheap garbage politics.   The Republicans are NOT making race an issue in this campaign.   The Democrats are.

And as for the vendor selling the button that was posted in the linked thread?   Vendor is exiled and all funds donated to charity
2105  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 21, 2008, 07:31:46 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 21, 2008, 06:49:50 PM

Are you just angry because the man is right?  We've already seen numerous examples of it (check out http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php/topic,27532.0.html).  I'm glad he called them out.

Seriously, I don't think I can even relate to your anger on this one. 

I discount what you are saying.   Why?  Because you've twice played the bigot card on me in these forums.
It's ridiculous.
2106  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 21, 2008, 06:42:52 PM
Reuters link

Hey Obama?   F___ you.    finger finger finger
2107  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 21, 2008, 02:09:23 AM
Dropped my 360 off at UPS today.   It's on it's way to the repair center.

Do they actually repair them, or do they swap them out?    If they repair them, what exactly do they do to them?

My PS3 coffin arrived today.   I'll send it off through UPS Monday.
2108  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Could the US collapse like the Soviet Empire? on: June 20, 2008, 11:30:29 PM
I think it would be foolish to predict the fading of America yet.
2109  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "We (the government) should own the refineries" on: June 20, 2008, 03:17:22 AM

Quote from: Brendan on June 20, 2008, 12:09:47 AM

Dearest brettmcd, you're comparing apples and oranges.

I'm talking about the quality of care available to veterans, and the cost of that care.

The report cited by your USA Today link is about facilities repair - if you actually click through to the pdf linked there, you'll find that it's things like "stained ceiling tile" and "appearance of floor tiles," and "replace windows with moisture in between glass."  There's a few pest control examples sprinkled in.  The incidents at Walter Reed, famous for their particularly bad facilities, can be credited to the privatization of that hospital.  Facilities do matter, but they're only one component.

Your second link says that the DOD handoff of medical records to the VA is flawed, not that the VA is dropping the ball in any consistent fashion.  Certainly they're stretched resource-wise by the influx of wounded veterans from the war.

Your third link is just an anecdote in a letter to the editor.

In the end, your links don't disprove anything I've asserted - that the VA care is cost-effective, consistently ranked as the highest quality care by patients.

But keep on keepin' on!

There is nothing constructive about a discussion when you use 'dearest' and 'ah, ____' and such to patronize and goad the other party.
2110  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "We (the government) should own the refineries" on: June 20, 2008, 03:13:55 AM

Quote from: Toe on June 19, 2008, 06:50:29 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 19, 2008, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 19, 2008, 01:22:42 AM

House Democrats?  No, more like House Democrat.  Plus, it needs to come from a legitimate news source, or it didn't happen.  Faux News doesn't count.



I'm tired of this excuse.   Fox News is a legitimate news source whether you like it, or hate it.

How could you call a news organization put out something like this legitimate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8QNHbuN3cI




Nothing in that link that I find illegitimate.   
2111  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: A pox on you for making me defend MSD on: June 19, 2008, 03:16:14 AM

Quote from: Mookee on June 19, 2008, 02:44:26 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 19, 2008, 02:04:49 AM

Again, even if you're right, you still aren't right.  It's still Democrat (singular, not plural). 

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/9E3kdWR-Cavuto-nat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ


Fuck it, nationalize it, I don't give a damn. I'm all for stuff that pisses off MSD. smile

I heart you too Mookie.   slywink
2112  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "We (the government) should own the refineries" on: June 19, 2008, 01:45:59 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 19, 2008, 01:41:50 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 19, 2008, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 19, 2008, 01:22:42 AM

House Democrats?  No, more like House Democrat.  Plus, it needs to come from a legitimate news source, or it didn't happen.  Faux News doesn't count.



I'm tired of this excuse.   Fox News is a legitimate news source whether you like it, or hate it.

No, they're not.  Legitimate news sources know who is a Democrat and who is a Republican during a scandal.  You might as well be quoting the ONN (Onion News Network). 

Hey, she may have said it.  If she did, she's a dumbass.  But until you get some independent verification, it didn't happen.

OK we'll play it your way -- we'll wait until this comes across AP and then we can address the issue you are dodging.   Why Democrats want to socialize America and yet scream when people call them socialists.
2113  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: "We (the government) should own the refineries" on: June 19, 2008, 01:36:48 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on June 19, 2008, 01:22:42 AM

House Democrats?  No, more like House Democrat.  Plus, it needs to come from a legitimate news source, or it didn't happen.  Faux News doesn't count.



I'm tired of this excuse.   Fox News is a legitimate news source whether you like it, or hate it.
2114  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / "We (the government) should own the refineries" on: June 19, 2008, 12:23:38 AM
House Democrats propose nationalization of oil refineries

First the health care industry.

Now the oil refineries.      What do the Democrats want the government to own next?   (D) apparently stands for socialism.
2115  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 11:15:51 AM
I know I know... it's just the heavily accented gentleman on the phone said if they couldn't reproduce it they would send it back to me unrepaired.
2116  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 04:31:54 AM
Ok now I can't get the dang thing to do it again (360).   I'm thinking I should call them tomorrow and let them know that it's functioning again and to hold off on sending me the box.   I ***KNOW*** it is going to die, but I don't want to send it to them just for them to turn it on and find nothing wrong and send it back.

I think I'll just cancel and play it until it really dies.

**or do you guys think I should risk sending it in when it's not doing it?
2117  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 03:11:08 AM
Ok 360 they are sending me a box.    Free repair. 

At one time I had one of those fans on the back of my box.    Will they be able to tell I had one and thus claim I voided the warranty?   paranoid
2118  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 02:47:19 AM
$149 for the PS3 repair.    mad
2119  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 18, 2008, 12:01:11 AM

Quote from: DamageInc on June 17, 2008, 04:08:01 PM

Sorry to hear about your bad luck, that really sucks.

My 360 bit the dust after 2 1/2 years ( a launch day system ) of heavy use. I was able to send it to MS and they repaired it and sent back my original box within two weeks.
It was only at MS for about 3 days and they fixed it for free since it was RRoD.

I know many people experienced a great deal of issues initially, but it looks like they are a lot better at it now.

Cool.   I'll call about it.   

BTW -- the 360 is a launch unit.   Do I get the prize for longest lived launch unit 360 on gamingtrend?
2120  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 17, 2008, 11:19:23 AM
Why does it still boot?   I don't want it to last, I want it to go ahead and get it over with so I can phone it in!
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