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2041  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movies]Wall-E Impressions on: June 29, 2008, 02:23:07 PM

This is one of Pixar's best.   I thought last year's Ratatouille was an extreme disappointment.    Everyone on the forums and critics raved about it, but it didn't feel at all like a Pixar movie to me -- and was boring.    My family hasn't even watched it more than 3 times.

The other Pixar movies, on the other hand, we've watched a hundred times each.    There is usually a Pixar movie playing in the background of our house at all times -- with kids and all.      I can still...after surely hundreds of times -- watch Cars.

Anyway..that being said:   Wall-E will rank among my favorites.    The Pixar magic returns in this one.
2042  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 29, 2008, 02:11:20 PM

Quote from: mikeg on June 29, 2008, 12:30:31 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 28, 2008, 03:20:53 PM

I think both times my PS3 HDMI issue has been as a result of a lightening strike nearby.    Both times the malfunction happened after a noticable close strike.     For whatever reason the PS3 doesn't take line surges very well -- not as well as any other component I've ever had.   So from now on....EVERYTHING down there get unplugged when I'm not using it.

I have been doing that since day one.  When I am not using it the electrical plug gets pulled from the back of the machine.  AND don't leave the ethernet cord in either.  I believe one of the biggest killers of electronics over time is poor quality electrical current.

If it is poor quality electrical current in my house, how do I fix that?    Probably amazingly expensive repairs, right?
2043  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 29, 2008, 12:03:20 AM

Quote from: me on June 29, 2008, 12:00:58 AM

An interesting article in the Washington Post yesterday about what the ruling will actually mean to D.C.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062603988.html

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...the District will continue to enforce a separate decades-old D.C. ban on the possession of most clip-loaded semiautomatic handguns, which are popular with gun enthusiasts.

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That regulation, which outlaws machine guns and was not part of the Supreme Court case, defines a machine gun in broad terms, encompassing semiautomatic weapons that can shoot, or be converted to shoot, more than 12 rounds without reloading, officials said.

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Nickles said the new rules for registering handguns will probably be similar to those in effect for rifles and shotguns, with additional restrictions. Residents generally will not be allowed to carry handguns outdoors, he said.

I'm happy that residents of D.C. will now be able to defend themselves in their homes. However, until some sort of conceal-carry law makes it on the books, those of us that live in Northern Virginia will still be in a bind. I live and work in Northern Virginia, but have to travel to D.C. for work at least 2-3 times a week, sometimes unexpectedly. DC's current gun laws are part of the reason I've never gotten a conceal-carry, because it would be more trouble than it worth to have to drop of my gun every time I left the Commonwealth. And under the current law if they did enact a conceal carry, I'd still be restricted to a six shooter. I'll be interested to see what future laws/court rulings will do.

They will continue to enforce them, but we'll see how it stands up in court from here on.   Those laws will be challenged.
2044  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 29, 2008, 12:01:57 AM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 28, 2008, 09:30:11 PM

Yes, sorry, I wasn't clear. I are stoopit in writing. I was thinking 18 would be a good age at which to start owning firearms - but realistically, growing up where I did, having your first rifle was a right of passage as a teenager (I haven't ever owned a gun, however).
You know, I really don't even see an age requirement being all that big of an issue. I think if a father gave his kid a rifle, there's nothing wrong with that. Gun safety is very important to learn at a young age. I guess you can still do that if the father buys the gun and registers it and then gives it to his son.

Gun ownership shouldn't be so complicated, though. I can see a problem with kids showing up at the gun shop to buy guns when they are teenagers - but if a good parent gave their kid a firearm and showed them proper safety, I see no problem.
I just can't stress enough my belief in teaching kids proper gun safety at an early age.
I grew up in an area loaded with guns in Wisconsin - and there was never a problem and no crime to speak of, really. No one ever was killed and that was that. Why? There were gun clubs through the school that taught safety and fathers that taught safety. The irony of that is - of all the places I lived in, the areas with the most gun ownership had almost no crime versus areas with less gun ownership.




I completely agree with everything you said.
2045  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 29, 2008, 12:00:20 AM
I hope they upgrade mine.   I don't give a rip about backward compatability.
2046  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Wife Issue (Advice?) on: June 28, 2008, 04:12:33 PM

Quote from: tgb1.1 on June 28, 2008, 03:59:42 PM

Aren't you a little old (and mature) for Myspace?
Bwhahahahahahhahahahhaa

/points at YK

Bwahahahahhahahahahahahaha
2047  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Wife Issue (Advice?) on: June 28, 2008, 03:42:16 PM
Pregnant = crazy
2048  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Positively scary....... on: June 28, 2008, 03:37:04 PM

I predict a move to the Religion and Politics forum.   Tongue
2049  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 28, 2008, 03:20:53 PM
I think both times my PS3 HDMI issue has been as a result of a lightening strike nearby.    Both times the malfunction happened after a noticable close strike.     For whatever reason the PS3 doesn't take line surges very well -- not as well as any other component I've ever had.   So from now on....EVERYTHING down there get unplugged when I'm not using it.
2050  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 28, 2008, 12:42:47 PM

Quote from: Biyobi on June 28, 2008, 06:45:52 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 28, 2008, 02:48:58 AM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 28, 2008, 02:15:11 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 28, 2008, 01:41:37 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 28, 2008, 12:49:27 AM

Age limits?

A voting age citizen, in my opinion.

to own, not to use imo

Not sure I follow you?   You mean you think people should be able to own them but not shoot them?
I think he's pointed in the direction that you'd have to be 18 to own a gun, but 14 year old Timmy can still go hunting with his dad and use dad's rifle.

Oh right right right.   Yes.   100% agree.
2051  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 28, 2008, 02:48:58 AM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 28, 2008, 02:15:11 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 28, 2008, 01:41:37 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 28, 2008, 12:49:27 AM

Age limits?

A voting age citizen, in my opinion.

to own, not to use imo

Not sure I follow you?   You mean you think people should be able to own them but not shoot them?
2052  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 28, 2008, 01:41:37 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 28, 2008, 12:49:27 AM

Age limits?

A voting age citizen, in my opinion.
2053  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 28, 2008, 12:40:52 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 27, 2008, 11:33:27 PM

Question - under what circumstances (if any) would a citizen forfeit this right? 

Change would to should, as you wish.  This is a part of the debate.  An example being, let's say current prison inmates - I'm pretty sure 100% of the board agrees they shouldn't have the right to bear arms while in prison.  So msd and other ardent 2nd amendment supporters, under what circumstances can a citizen forfeit this right?

A citizen forfeits his right when he becomes a felon.    I'm pretty sure felons have traditionally (even centuries in the past) been deined some rights once they've broken society's rules.
2054  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 27, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
Sony:  shipped 3 day select  +1
Microsoft:  UPS ground  -

(Sony used 3 day when I had warranty service too 6 months ago...so I'm counting it here for out of warranty as well)

2055  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 27, 2008, 03:17:10 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on June 27, 2008, 03:02:16 AM

Quote from: Biyobi on June 27, 2008, 01:09:06 AM

The thing is that the Supreme Court of the United States has decreed the U.S. Constitution to say that individuals have a right to bear arms.  Which judge do you think is going to look at the decision and say that their local law is going to supercede this precedent?  Every city that's put a blanket "no" to guns is going to have its citizens taking them to federal court saying that their Constitutionally guaranteed right to own a gun is being infringed.

Sure, but the Constitution is all about "Congress shall make no law" which is clearly about what the federal government can do.  As a federal district, DC is not Chicago or New York or LA.  While the 14th Amendment attempted to make the rights declared in the Constitution immune from state action, the Supreme Court has made it clear that states do have some overriding authority.

This was a specific case regarding a specific situation in a federal district.  Challenges to restrictive gun laws in non-federal districts will have to be determined seperately, but it would not surprise me if this court allows states a lot of leeway on this issue.



This both troubles me and also cheers me.    On one hand you have individual rights in the 2nd Amendment, and on the other hand -- if you are reading into this correctly -- you have State's rights.

I am a supporter of both.

Btw --  My theory on what would have happened if the court had gone the other way:   you would have seen rural states throughout the Union passing constitutional amendments to the State Constitutions that drafted every citizen of each state over a certain age into a 'state militia' for the sole purpose of preserving the right.   
2056  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 27, 2008, 02:36:23 AM

Sony:  Shows as shipped the 26th.    +1
Microsoft:  Shows as shipped the 26th.   +1
2057  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 27, 2008, 01:01:59 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on June 27, 2008, 12:44:31 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 26, 2008, 10:58:29 PM

I bought some wine to celebrate tonight.    It was indeed a stressful night and morning for me.

I'm scared and shocked at how close this was....

Why?

I can't speak for you, but I can't promise that I'd actually go along with restrictive gun laws of the type DC was trying to enforce. 

Besides, this is a case specific to a federal district, which is why I don't expect the challenges already being brought against various other cities will succeed. 


True, but I want my children when they get to be adults to be able to go into a store and legally purcahse a firearm.    I also want them to be able to use them to protect their homes without being thrown in jail.

And we'll see about how far reaching this is.    The opinion was over 100 pages, and it's still being dissected.
2058  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 26, 2008, 10:58:29 PM
I bought some wine to celebrate tonight.    It was indeed a stressful night and morning for me.

I'm scared and shocked at how close this was....
2059  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Starship Troopers 3 Trailer! on: June 26, 2008, 03:20:25 AM
This trailer doesn't inspire me.... and I **LOVED** the first movie and really got it.

And it wasn't all about Dizz, thought I lusted after her for weeks afterwards.   Denise Richards wasn't bad either, but her character was a pain in the ass.
2060  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 26, 2008, 02:38:22 AM

Quote from: Canuck on June 25, 2008, 09:35:50 AM

So which one had the fastest repair time?

They are both still in the shop.   It's a race!   icon_cool
2061  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 26, 2008, 02:10:34 AM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 26, 2008, 01:35:28 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 26, 2008, 12:02:22 AM

This could arguably be the biggest Supreme Court ruling since Roe v Wade.   

At first glance, you sound nuts in saying that. On second thought - I think you are really on to something. However, I think the importance is based upon which way they side. If they go along with popular opinion on this forum and defend the 2nd amendment, it won't be that big of a deal compared to if they go the other way... Then we'd have a serious problem. I have a lot of words if they go against the way I think they'll go, hopefully I can save the wind to cool my coffee.

Agreed.   But I guess what I was saying is that the implications of this case on both sides is as large in my opinion.   If it goes against gun owners -- it will be an earth shaking decision that will rattle the foundations of the country.    If it goes in favor of gun owners -- it will be but a whisper, but to some of gun control supporters most ardent warriors it will represent a giant hurdle to some of that faction's end goals (gun bans on a large scale like in Austrailia).    Please note I'm not saying that all supporters of gun control support those drastic measures, but a faction does... and this has the potential to effectively end their aspirations of gun bans unless the Constitution is changed.
2062  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 26, 2008, 12:02:22 AM
This could arguably be the biggest Supreme Court ruling since Roe v Wade.   
2063  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / District of Columbia v. Heller -- Decision tomorrow on: June 25, 2008, 11:22:29 PM

Thought I'd go ahead and start this thread as a watch.     The decision should come down tomorrow at 10 eastern.

Speculation among bloggers is that it is going to come down favorably on the gun-rights side.    Justice Scalia is the only justice not to write a majority opinion this session, and it is thought the majority opinion will be handed to him to write.     

Stay tuned!
2064  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Roll Tide! on: June 25, 2008, 03:08:32 AM

Quote from: McNutt on June 25, 2008, 02:08:06 AM

I was never sold on him.  He seemed too easy going for an SEC head coach.  Saban would get in a player's face if he blew a play, but Miles seemed to have a "that's okay" attitude.  I don't like that, but it wasn't enough to damn him in my eyes.  I really gained a lot of respect for him when he signed an extension and ended all of the Michigan speculation.  He never lied to us (yes, that still bothers LSU fans about Saban) even though everyone would have understood if he had left for Michigan.  He gave us a national title and he showed us that he's willing to kick off players that have issues with staying out of trouble, even if they are the starting quarterback.

I don't think he's the best coach out there, but he's pretty good and I don't know that we'd have better luck with anybody else.  There were rumors going around that if Miles took the Michigan job (that was floating around after week 1) we'd entertain hiring 1) Steve Spurrier 2) Tommy Tuberville or 3)Nick Saban.  Man, talk about a weird selection.  LSU fans have hated every one of those guys, but I'll be damned if we didn't sit around talking about which one we'd like.  I went with Tuberville, but that's only if offered a choice of those three.   icon_razz  Thank Jehova we didn't have to make that choice.

Hopefully Saban recently signaled that he's planning to stay at Alabama for a long time.   He and Terry donated $1 million to a University of Alabama scholarship fund.
2065  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Roll Tide! on: June 25, 2008, 01:48:20 AM

Quote from: McNutt on June 25, 2008, 01:03:53 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 25, 2008, 12:42:45 AM

Miles (who is btw an idiot)

An idiot with the title.   icon_wink

Alabama definitely has their issues, but, and it pains this LSU fan to say this, they will soon be feared.  Saban is going to whip these new recruits into shape.  He's a good coach and combine that with talent and a school like Alabama and you have a dangerous combination.

I was surpised at LSU offering Miles what they did.   From a non-LSU fan's perspective, we thought LSU fans had very little love for him.
2066  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: When was the last time someone changed your mind on an P/RN topic? on: June 25, 2008, 12:55:15 AM
I'll bite:

I changed my mind on 2 things in the OO forum that I can think of off the top of my head:

1.  I once accused liberals as being traitors and un-American.     Based on the (you guessed it -- FLOOD) of feedback I got, I completely changed my heart on this issue, not just my mind.   The responses weren't even as flaming as you'd expect....they called me to the carpet and made me realize that people on the opposite end of the spectrum as me (see:  Blackadar) are NOT any of those things.   They are Americans who want the same thing that I do:  a prosperous, secure, and free America.    It's the method or path to get there where we disagree.      Seeing someone as having good intentions but seeing a different path to get there makes you see them in a vastly different light than seeing someone that is anti-American or unpatriotic.

2.  Abu Graib and torture:    Initially I was of the "so what?  these guys are murderous terrorists in these prisons and they deserve what they get camp".   And the "especially if certain methods can save American lives" camp.      Then OO turned my opinion to think that if we are to remain the country that is the beacon of hope for the world, we cannot allow ourselves to stoop to the same moral level as our enemies, no matter how dirty they fight.     We have to maintain justice and liberty.     This is one reason why, shocking probably to some, I agreed with the decision last week by the SCOTUS to allow prisoners to challenge their detention in court.

So yes... some of us are capable of changing our minds.     I'll be the first to admit that it is rare -- but it does happen.

Edit to add:   Dangit Ironrod, you reminded me.     I followed the same course as you on gay marriage.    Fireball has a lot to do with my acceptance of the issue as a civil rights issue rather than political correctness.    Thank you Fireball.
2067  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Roll Tide! on: June 25, 2008, 12:42:45 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on June 25, 2008, 12:21:32 AM

Damn that Shula!  Serves them right for not hiring an alum.  Oh wait . . .

Oh well, he's definately the worst coach they've ever had.  Oh wait . . .
 icon_wink

Good thing Nick's in charge now.  He's clean as a whistle, the perfect guy to clean things up.

As an aside, I heard today that every coach in the SEC now makes at least a $1.5m base salary, compared to only two in the Pac 10.   icon_eek


Yeah... in true one-upmanship fashion, LSU made Miles (who is btw an idiot), the highest paid coach just to unseat Saban.
2068  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 25, 2008, 12:16:06 AM

More rating info:

The Sony return box was Next Day delivery:  +1
The Microsoft return box was UPS Ground:  -
2069  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Roll Tide! on: June 25, 2008, 12:12:20 AM

 These arrests are left overs from Shula's recruits.... one of the most undisciplined bunch ever to come out of Alabama.

We have the #1 recruiting class this year, and things are heading in the right direction.    The team finally 'gets it' on the field, and with Johns gone, it's a step closer to getting the bad apples out of this program for good.

2070  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 05:52:49 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on June 23, 2008, 05:16:08 PM


Let's pretend for a moment that such wild supposition could be backed up with clips of all the nasty race-based innuendo lobbed at Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice by major media outlets like CNN and MSNBC -- which it can't.  How would that excuse the *actual* nasty race-based innuendo propagated by Fox News or Rush "Barack the Magic Negro" Limbaugh, or justify msduncan's anger at Obama for calling them out about it?

Because I'm not a goddamn racist, but he called me out about it too since I'm a Republican.

First of all:   quite pretending the Democrats are innocent.
Secondly:  neither of those people were a candidate for President.

Quote
partisan liberal opinions

We differ on partisan opinions.    I have my own partisan opinions on how foreign and domestic policy has been the last decade.
2071  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 01:21:14 PM

Quote from: McBa1n on June 23, 2008, 07:11:28 AM

The neocon arm of the Republican party built it's core over racism fear mongering (before the democrats owned it prior, especially in the south). It's pretty well documented and runs back to HW Bush's run for Senate back in the 60s. A bunch of 'country club' Republicans were able to turn a tiny party in Texas into a major contender through such tactics, it's the base of the party's votes...

But Obama is correct in what he is saying. Any idiot can figure out any opponent he goes up against will have people working behind the scenes to make him look like a 'terrorist' or play up the fact he's black - and associates with 'black radicals', the scariest people on the planet! Other democrats have used his race and upbringing against him indirectly tons already - I don't know why it's so shocking to hear him saying that. Actually - it's redundant for him to say. Everyone knows that's the best way to beat him - since it's always worked due to our national retardation and hypocracy that we are 'all created equal'. This country has come a long way in terms of race/gender/religion, but it's nowhere near the bullshit we're fed. He's black, his middle name is "Hussein" and I've seen both references enough to make me sick to my stomach. He's a man, just like McCain -- and he's running for President, that's all that SHOULD matter, but for some reason that has nothing to do with what's going on. 'McCain is old'. blah - same crap. Why does it matter? Do news shows have nothing else to talk about?

No they don't.    All of the new organizations make their living from filling time on cable stations that run continuously 24 hours a day.   The networks, on the flip side, constantly try to steal attention and ratings from the cable stations in the shorter time they have airtime to talk.  This is asking for dumb things to be said, and dumb ideas to be covered.
2072  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 03:45:21 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on June 23, 2008, 03:29:28 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 23, 2008, 03:21:37 AM



And my point was that Obama basically lumped all Republicans into the racist bunch by making the statements he did.    He said Republicans (that's me) will use race against me.   *I* am not, and neither is Huckabee or many other Republicans that understand the significance of his nomination.   But he's already labeled us as racist by making statements like that.    And I take offense.

That's a plausible reading.  Generalizations, as common as they are in modern politics, are regrettable.

How do you feel about throwing the first stone regarding generalizations?

I long ago apologized about the generalizations of which you speak, and they were on the other forum besides.   I am also not running for President on a platform that supposedly changes direction from that.   

btw -- I'm still self enforcing a break from OO R&P until the conventions, as I promised.
2073  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 03:21:37 AM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 23, 2008, 01:40:08 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 22, 2008, 01:59:05 PM

Well like I said again -- many of those quotes were taken out of context.    The few that weren't probably equal out to the same left-slanted jabbering from the CNN's and MSNBC's out there.

Interestingly enough, I had to go to the UK to get the best sense of the quotes - the NY times article states that the most inflammatory one may not even be accurate.

Ultimately, I feel that those who stand to gain the most from a Republican President will attack Obama in any way possible, and the email and tv ads listed above will continue.  They will not necessarily be officially Republican, but the bottom line is that in this election more so than any other, those who see race first may well do anything to stop him, more than other Republicans, and the fact of the matter is that Obama has to defend against all of these attacks and attack back. 

One of the tools he has to use to defend against these attacks is the fact that some of them are racially motivated.  The Democrats have seen what happens when you ignore slurs from anyone of questionable character in the past, and getting the Republicans to police their more "out-there" supporters helps Obama.

And my point was that Obama basically lumped all Republicans into the racist bunch by making the statements he did.    He said Republicans (that's me) will use race against me.   *I* am not, and neither is Huckabee or many other Republicans that understand the significance of his nomination.   But he's already labeled us as racist by making statements like that.    And I take offense.
2074  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 23, 2008, 03:18:29 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on June 23, 2008, 12:50:38 AM

Quote from: deadzone on June 23, 2008, 12:23:19 AM

MSD in my opinion, your anger is misplaced about the article - I just don't see what you are talking about.  The fact is that Obama is right.  This country was built on racism and thrives on racism.  You are fooling yourself if you don't think this going to be the ugliest, most racially charged, Presidential Election ever.  It goes without saying that it's going to come from the Republican Base, afterall, they don't want a Deomcrat to win they want a Republican to win. 

This is going to be so ugly to see.  Hope this country is ready for it and I sure hope that it doesn't destroy our country. 

His democratic opponent and her supporters went down this path, i didnt know they were part of the republican base.  Guess one learns something new every day.

I think what deadzone was saying -- and correct me if I'm wrong dead -- is that politics is dirty and this will get as dirty as it ever has.    And if the shoe was on the other foot and there was a Republican African American candidate -- some Democrats would be pulling out all the stops--including race--to take them down, dirty or not.

Is that what you were saying deadzone?
2075  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 23, 2008, 12:43:13 AM

Quote from: Canuck on June 22, 2008, 01:28:59 PM

Interesting to see how this plays out.  What is Sony charging you for? The shipping?  I wonder which turnaround time will be faster-I'm guessing the 360.  They should have it down to a perfected science by now smile

Sony is charging me $150 for a problem that seems to be rather common on the internet -- HDMI output going out.    (I'm out of warranty)

M$ recognized their console weakness and extended the original warrany for red rings.
2076  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: MINI Cooper -- building it on: June 22, 2008, 03:01:53 PM

Quote from: ChaoZ on June 22, 2008, 02:44:30 PM

Quote from: msduncan on June 22, 2008, 01:57:00 PM

Mini Cooper has been ordered for a week or so.

It's been produced in Oxford and is waiting to be picked up for transport to the docks.

That's pretty quick.
What did you decide on for your final configuration/colors?

Funny you mention that.    I'm still having trouble deciding on dealer options.    The car produced is Chili Red with black roof and mirrors.   It has a black and red interior like the picture earlier in this thread.

My wife is lobbying that I cancel the dealer applied checkerboard decal and go with the black roof with dark window tint.    I'm still digging the checkerboard.

However, even if I do go with the checkerboard, someone recommended going with a vendor rather than dealer.   The reason is that the vendors sell full vinyl sheets that cover the entire roof.    The dealer decals apparently only cover the white squares and so the black paint is exposed for the contrast color.    Some folks claim that this could cause the roof to fade in a checkerboard pattern and also be difficult to wash without messing up.   

Getting it from one of the vendors will be about 100 more and not be rolled into the loan like the dealer one would be.

So I'm sitting here debating.
2077  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 22, 2008, 01:59:05 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on June 22, 2008, 01:30:50 PM

Quote from: msduncan
If you guys are going to lump every loony's comments out there as 'the republicans', then it is fair game for me to talk about how the Democrats want to nationalize oil refineries and socialize America, among many other things the extreme left fringe is saying.

As I said to brettmcd, if you want to denounce all those Fox News clips as the work of jabbering lunatics, you won't get much of a fight from me.  Just don't forget that less than two weeks ago you also championed it as "a conservative channel."

-Autistic Angel

Well like I said again -- many of those quotes were taken out of context.    The few that weren't probably equal out to the same left-slanted jabbering from the CNN's and MSNBC's out there.
2078  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: MINI Cooper -- building it on: June 22, 2008, 01:57:00 PM
Mini Cooper has been ordered for a week or so.

It's been produced in Oxford and is waiting to be picked up for transport to the docks.
2079  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Great Console Catastrophe of 2008 on: June 22, 2008, 01:16:20 PM
BTW -- My PS3 console coffin is here too.    I'll be able to report side by side on how service from the two play out.

First impression:

Microsoft was free:  +1
Sony was not:  -

Second:
Microsoft got the box to me a day earlier:  +1
Sony did not:   -
2080  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama (already) plays the race card on: June 22, 2008, 01:12:49 PM

Quote from: helot2000 on June 22, 2008, 05:38:56 AM

Quote from: msduncan on June 21, 2008, 10:28:11 PM

He's not 'my guy' so I don't have a lot of nice things to say about him.   'My guy' was governor Huckabee, who got my vote in the primaries and won my state.
Your guy had some pretty good tips for Republicans this week.  In his own words...

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What I am saying is that we need to challenge Obama on the basis that his ideas are the wrong ones—not attacking him personally. If people spend their time repeating a bunch of internet driven drivel about his middle name (he didn’t choose his anymore than I chose mine), or his race (I do sincerely celebrate that our country has moved to a place where a person’s race doesn’t limit him from aspiring to the highest office in our land, but I just believe that due to his proposals and lack of substantive experience, he’s gone far enough—not because of his race, but because of his sincere, but misguided proposals), or his church (there are far more important reasons for us to elect Senator McCain than where Obama went to church).

Elections ought to be about elevating the best ideas and exposing the worst ones—not engaging in character assassination with half truths, innuendoes, and disputable “internet facts.”
Testify Huckabee, testify...

My absolute favorite for President, Newt Gingrich, has been saying the same thing for months.     I'm not disputing the fact that we need to have a plan and run on it as Newt (and Huckabee) say.   I'm disputing the idea counter to my original post that Republicans are running on race.   They aren't.   They are running on a weak message from a weak candidate.   

If you guys are going to lump every loony's comments out there as 'the republicans', then it is fair game for me to talk about how the Democrats want to nationalize oil refineries and socialize America, among many other things the extreme left fringe is saying.
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