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1881  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 05, 2008, 09:48:25 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on September 05, 2008, 08:51:55 PM

I love the Republican response to all of the Palin digging. 

'Yeah she's got baggage.  But you guys can't stop finding it.  She PWNED you!!!"

For months all we heard was that Obama would be learning on the job. And now the Republicans nominate a complete newcomer who a few weeks ago said she didn't even know what a Vice President does, which forces them to backtrack on all of that rhetoric. 

Great stuff.   icon_biggrin





First of all -- don't even get me started on Obama and Biden's baggage.   Palin and McCain might have a closet full, but you'd have to hire a moving van for what those two guys have.   You don't see me harping on it here though do you?

Secondly --  Sarah Palin said she didn't really know what a vp does in the CONTEXT of saying it was a non-productive position.   And it IS a non productive position.    And you guys were bitching that Cheney had too much power (a fact that hasn't been proven anyway) so even if it was productive, you'd be bitching it was too productive.

Thirdly  --  How did this partisan war start up with me not posting to it at all for several pages?    eek
1882  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 05, 2008, 02:24:44 AM

Roll Tide!!!
1883  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!! on: September 03, 2008, 10:58:42 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on September 03, 2008, 06:04:11 AM

Quote from: msduncan on September 03, 2008, 02:41:10 AM


So what you're saying is that SI just jinxed Bama?

I'll keep that in mind as a good excuse if they lose to Tulane.   icon_lol

Tulane will be a true test for what this team is made of.    Coming off a big win, it might be easy for them to dial it down a notch.   If instead they come in and play just as aggressive and physical with Tulane, we might have something special.
1884  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!! on: September 03, 2008, 02:41:10 AM
Bama makes cover of Sports Illustrated again.

1885  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Raids in Minnesota on: September 02, 2008, 03:01:02 AM
Yeah..... peaceful protesters....    not!
1886  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Raids in Minnesota on: September 01, 2008, 03:06:32 AM

You are really stretching on this one Blackadar.

These guys were noted anarchist protesters, and they had alllll their gear with them clearly (as seen in what the cops confiscated).

Lock em up and throw away the key.
1887  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!! on: August 31, 2008, 04:04:51 PM

Quote from: Tebunker on August 31, 2008, 03:44:12 PM

Quote from: msduncan on August 31, 2008, 04:42:41 AM


Domination!!!   Roll Tide baby!

I can't wait for next Saturday -- I'll be there with the wife in Tuscaloosa watching our home opener.     RTR!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the part where I need to pull the rest of Bama Nation aside and remind them that the ACC blows this year. Yeah, the Tide rolled Clemson right outta Atlanta, and as a card carrying Bama fan I was excited as hell, but I am also cautiously optimistic too, we've gotten off to great starts before only to fall apart, hell last year some retards were thinking we'd go undefeated and look how that ended up.

So, great win, good to see the young team come out swinging, and I hope they can keep it up.

If Bama ends up back in the Kickoff special again next year against Va Tech like they're talking about, I will buy tickets for sure. Too many of my friends are Tech fans and I would love to be there when Bama rolls em.

Think like a champion Tebunker!    And here is something to fire you up:

Tradition
1888  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!! on: August 31, 2008, 04:42:41 AM

Domination!!!   Roll Tide baby!

I can't wait for next Saturday -- I'll be there with the wife in Tuscaloosa watching our home opener.     RTR!!!!!!!!!!!
1889  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 05:15:54 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on August 30, 2008, 05:08:54 PM

Quote from: TiLT
And to stay on topic: As a non-American (Norwegian), I find the McCain's choice of Palin to be quite interesting. It's an obvious ploy to capture the female vote from Obama, but it looks like it can tip both ways. Every time I think this election has stabilized, someone does something to turn everything upside-down. What's next, I wonder...

I *think* Palin will turn out to be a good choice for McCain.  She stands for all of the conservative right-wing positions you could hope for, and more importantly to me, she really walks the walk too: she actively hunts and has a son preparing to serve in Iraq.  Between McCain's military background and her own vested interested, it seems likely that the next Republican administration will take the welfare of our troops a lot more seriously than the current one.

Make no mistake: I disagree with Palin's stated views on the environment, Creationism, abortion rights, gay marriage, and others.  Nonetheless, from the small amount I've seen, I respect the way she follows through on her beliefs.

My concern about Palin is that she's been governor of Alaska for less than two years, yet she's already the subject of an active ethics investigation.  The little I know about the case makes me optimistic that she'll be fully cleared of the charge against her...but given the rampant abuses of power we've seen over the last eight years, this starts the new Republican ticket off on a pretty shaky footing.

-Autistic Angel

AA, I think you are hitting on what is most important to me as a Conservative Republiican.    Palin shores up the conservative base of his party without giving them an easy target like Romney would have.
1890  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 05:14:44 PM

Quote from: TiLT on August 30, 2008, 04:14:28 PM

Quote from: msduncan on August 30, 2008, 01:25:41 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on August 30, 2008, 05:14:50 AM

Actually I think he did just hand the Dems the election.

This is what I'm hoping for.   The smug overconfidence ala 2004.

I think a lot of people are looking for a balanced and informative discussion in this thread. Some of us just lurk, while others post. Most of the discussion actually lives up to its promise, and is interesting in several ways. Your posts however, are pure jackassery and remove the fun from reading the thread.

Seriously msduncan, are you completely incapable of discussing politics without being a competitive asshole about it? Nobody is giving you this kind of attitude back. Note that this is about pretty much all your posts in this thread, not just the one I quoted above.

And to stay on topic: As a non-American (Norwegian), I find the McCain's choice of Palin to be quite interesting. It's an obvious ploy to capture the female vote from Obama, but it looks like it can tip both ways. Every time I think this election has stabilized, someone does something to turn everything upside-down. What's next, I wonder...


I wasn't talking about Leo being smug.   I was talking about the left being smug, much like --as a group -- they were in 2004 when Bush won reelection.   Nothing personal to Leo.
1891  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 01:25:41 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on August 30, 2008, 05:14:50 AM

Actually I think he did just hand the Dems the election.

This is what I'm hoping for.   The smug overconfidence ala 2004.
1892  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 02:39:45 AM
1893  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 02:27:24 AM
The woman who took on her own party, and won.
1894  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 02:24:01 AM

Quote from: jblank on August 30, 2008, 02:06:17 AM

At least Obama has IDEAS and is the real candidate of change.

Socialist and wealth-redistribution ideas.   More ideas than he can pay for without running the economy into the ground with massive tax increases.  Ideas I can't afford.

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McCain's tired, old, uninspiring, dangerous, and it's going to 4 more years of ludicrous foreign policy.

You mean like the surge?   You know.... the one that worked.    The one that Obama opposed and McCain supported?    An idea that was correct.

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How much more do you want our reputation in the world to drop MSD? How much more CAN it drop? Vote for McCain and find out.

I don't vote based on how I think our Eurpoean friends want us to vote.

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He'll change a heckuva lot more in Washington than John McCain ever will. I can promise you that.

Really?    What do you see in all those party line votes that tells you he will change anything?   What do you see in his VP pick that tells you he will change anything?    What do you see in his closest political allies (the Kennedy's) makes you think he'll change anything?

McCain was the change candidate before change candidates were in style 8 years ago.       You have bought and swallowed the cool-aid because Obama has crafted a Rock tour rather than a serious attempt at change and leadership.     He is the ultimate embedded beltway dweller with nothing but party line votes and career politician allies and a VP that is the same.
1895  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 02:03:46 AM

Quote from: jblank on August 30, 2008, 01:59:29 AM

Quote from: msduncan on August 29, 2008, 11:56:33 PM

Quote from: jblank on August 29, 2008, 07:32:13 PM

But that is irrelevant Proner and it doesn't make her more qualified than any of them. Using your logic, she is actually more qualified to be President (even though being a Gov. isn't a qualification) than 100 Senators and 435 Congressmen......that just isn't the case.

Here is the rub:

McCain campaign has an experience-light VP candidate
Obama campaign has an experience-light Presidential candidate.

I don't even agree with that. This belief that Obama is a novice has GOT to end. The man has an extremely distinguished career and just because a lot of it's done at the state level (before 2004 obviously) doesn't mean he is inexperienced. Remember Abraham Lincoln, his highest elected office was the Illinois State Legislature and a single term in the US House. Just sayin'.

And he was a true leader during those years..... oh wait.... no he wasn't.    He voted party line every single time right in line with how his Illinois and then US Senate leaders told him to vote.    

Change I can believe in.......   hmm....  
1896  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 02:01:44 AM

Quote from: Brendan on August 29, 2008, 08:41:15 PM

I look forward to republicans explaining Palin's signing of a windfall profits tax on oil companies in Alaska.

This post is like a window on your soul.    Instead of using a position your party supports against an opposite party candidate, you should be be commending her for taking a like-minded stance.

Anything to bring McCain-Palin down I suppose.
1897  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 01:45:50 AM
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I think it's possible that McCain did even less vetting than you do on your republican crush-of-the-month (what happened to Meg Whitman?  And Mike Huckabee?  And Bobby Jindal?)

I still love Huckabee.    I never liked Meg Whitman and I challenge you to find the post where I said I did.    I also love Bobby Jindal, but he stated a month ago that he wasn't intrested.

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This pick is a clear pander.  Think of many qualified republican VP candidates there were - Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Ridge, Lieberman, etc.  Is there any way Palin gets the nod over them if gender isn't the primary factor in the pick?  No, clearly not.  McCain ran an ad last week that appears pretty hypocritical in retrospect.   And unlike the ridiculous "PUMA" meme that your team spreads, there are actually some upset factions in the republican party.

You would have given your right testicle for him to choose one of those other candidates.     In fact Obama's staff had reviewed hours of Romney material and had commercials ready to go, but were caught completely off guard by the pick.      Are you upset that Obama got caught flat footed on this?   Of course you are.

And please get the nonsense about people within the party being upset at the pick outta my face.   Half your damn party was upset about Obama getting the nod over Hillary.

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But back to Palin.  Alaskan legislators, both Republican and Democrat, were happy to criticize her to the press today.

Of course they were.     You are choosing to completely ignore, for your own political mudslinging purposes, the crux of McCain's reason for picking her.    She became governor of Alaska to clean up the corruption of both parties in the state.... she did so... and pissed a buch of people off (mostly Republicans) in the process.    Sounds like change I can believe in.

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Ringing endorsements in your world, I assume.

And most delightfully for this upcoming season, she's been lying about this scandal in Alaska for which she's being investigated.  The report on the corruption charges will be released just days before the election.

Thumbs up indeed!

Unlike you, I don't rely on endorsements from career politicians to shape my opinions.     Your candidate is running a washington outsider campaign, right?    Biden is a Washington outsider right?   Oh... 

And that garbage 'scandal' you are desperately clinging to is a non-story.
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1898  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 30, 2008, 12:03:08 AM
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Metro population of Richmond, Virginia:  1,194,008
Metro population of Wasilla, Alaska:  5,469

If we are going to start playing these games.... that's cool.

Obama the change candidate's VP:    30+ year inside the beltway engrained lifetime politician.
McCain the supposedly insider's VP:  completely outside the beltway newcomer/fresh face.

Which is the campaign of change?
1899  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 29, 2008, 11:56:33 PM

Quote from: jblank on August 29, 2008, 07:32:13 PM

But that is irrelevant Proner and it doesn't make her more qualified than any of them. Using your logic, she is actually more qualified to be President (even though being a Gov. isn't a qualification) than 100 Senators and 435 Congressmen......that just isn't the case.

Here is the rub:

McCain campaign has an experience-light VP candidate
Obama campaign has an experience-light Presidential candidate.
1900  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 29, 2008, 11:51:34 PM
And that little inaccurate shot at what she said about the VEEP position --   it was a warping of her meaning and you know it.   She was remarking on how she thought the position was not productive and she could do better work somewhere else.
1901  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 29, 2008, 11:50:27 PM

Quote from: Brendan on August 29, 2008, 03:29:35 PM

Palin's been governor for less than 2 years, and prior to that was the mayor of Wasilla, AK (population ~7000).  Just a month ago, she said she wasn't sure what the VP actually does.  I will be very interested to see the VP debates, as this truly does undercut McCain's campaign's "not enough experience!" meme.

This whole thing strikes me as a pander to the base - McCain, by most accounts, wanted Lieberman or Ridge but was overruled by his advisors who said he needed a game changer to keep up with Obama.  She doesn't deviate much from standard conservative positions on choice, ANWR, gay marriage, etc (as far as anyone knows, at least), so she pulls McCain back towards the orthodox republican crowd.

I don't think many would-be Hillary voters will be swayed, but I guess we'll see.

Ahhhh.   I see you got the Obama/Liberal talking points memo.    Took less time than I could get home from work and check the forum.    Very nice.

Palin is an exceptional choice.    As I stated on the other forum we all know -- I was rooting strongly for her as the choice.     She's a working mom.   Her husband is a steelworker union member.    She was heavily involved in the education system.    She's an exceptional political talent, and she's going to be a very tough and formidable force against the Obama campaign this fall.

VERY GOOD CHOICE!    thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
1902  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 29, 2008, 12:38:28 AM
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Yes.  Was her statement in any way misleading?
Yes.

Can you be non-partisan under any circumstances at all?   Maybe if a Democrat shot someone in the face perhaps?   

......   nah.  you'd probably blame it on the gun.
1903  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 25, 2008, 01:45:25 AM

Quote from: CSL on August 25, 2008, 12:27:55 AM

Quote from: msduncan on August 24, 2008, 05:12:05 PM

Quote from: CSL on August 24, 2008, 03:47:42 AM

Quote from: msduncan on August 23, 2008, 12:35:00 PM

Put her opposite of Biden in a debate, and women everywhere will think he's talking down to her.

So in your world women everywhere are idiots?

Do you know how stupid that sounds.

And please quit calling women idiots.

Are you tone deaf or did I not set my sarcasm levels up high enough.

Your volume was high enough, but maybe you need to get your sarcasm hearing checked..........
1904  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 24, 2008, 07:17:23 PM
BTW --  I can't wait for another one of these.
1905  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 24, 2008, 07:06:07 PM
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Don't get me wrong - I'm sure things will work out, but I guess it just sort of feels like all the incredible momentum Barack had earlier in the year for change has been fizzling out a bit and I'm not sure that announcing Biden as his running mate is going to help bring any of that back.

It's fizzling because all he has done is make speeches about 'change' without saying what he is going to actually do.    When he does actually point to what he is going to do.... people start wondering how wealth redistribution is in any way a good idea....

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Then again - i've heard some people say that Obama needed an attack dog for dealing with a lot of the nonsense that's being said and perhaps Biden might be incredibly entertaining in that role.

Which counters one of the main themes Obama was running on....   he was going to run a 'different' kind of campaign that focused on hope and 'change' instead of how campaigns were run in the past.      I guess what he really meant to say is that he was going to not say anything himself, while sending an army of attack dogs and an attack VP out to do the dirty work for him.

Yeah....   that's change alright.   Roll Eyes
1906  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 24, 2008, 05:12:05 PM

Quote from: CSL on August 24, 2008, 03:47:42 AM

Quote from: msduncan on August 23, 2008, 12:35:00 PM

Put her opposite of Biden in a debate, and women everywhere will think he's talking down to her.

So in your world women everywhere are idiots?

Do you know how stupid that sounds.

Have you ever heard Biden talk to anyone?   

And please quit calling women idiots.
1907  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 23, 2008, 12:35:00 PM

Quote from: Brendan on August 23, 2008, 04:53:00 AM

CNN's now reporting that it'll be Biden.  If true, whatever else happens, there'll at least be some decent one-liners from here on out.  VP debates could be pretty entertaining.

With this chess move, the right move for McCain would be Whitman.    Put her opposite of Biden in a debate, and women everywhere will think he's talking down to her.     It might also suck up some of the female independents still pissed off about Obama's coronation in the press.
1908  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 20, 2008, 02:15:26 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 20, 2008, 01:20:23 AM

Quote from: msduncan on August 20, 2008, 01:03:45 AM

Obama -- Hillary Rodam Clinton

they've been pretty buddy buddy lately, so that's my guess too.

I left this up on the computer, and my wife just informed my drunk ass that it's Rodham, not Rodam.   

 retard
1909  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 20, 2008, 01:03:45 AM
My predictions:

Obama -- Hillary Rodam Clinton
McCain -- Kay Bailey Hutchinson
1910  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: August 20, 2008, 01:02:49 AM

Quote from: Brendan on August 19, 2008, 09:56:10 PM

Biden sounds like the conventional wisdom for Obama at this point.  I don't think he's the guy, given his pro-war stance on the mess in Iraq and the u-turn he'd represent from the "change" candidate.  Dodd was apparently in the running, but the specious press about his mortgage may have torpedoed him (which is too bad given his strong civil libertarian principles as witnessed with his efforts to fix the FISA bill).  I could see Richardson for sure, but I'm going to guess it'll be Tim Kaine or Kathleen Sibelius.  I guess I'll guess Kaine.

As much as I hope McCain chooses Lieberman, Romney (please! please!), or cuh-razy Bobby Jindal, I suspect he'll take Pawlenty given his general affability and modest anti-tax credentials.  The Club for Growthers won't be pleased, but they'll never trust McCain.  The base won't take anyone who's not rigidly pro-life given the response to the trial balloons McCain floated last week.

Bobby Jindal is a rising star of the Republican party.   You better fear him rather than ridicule him.
1911  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 continuing NCAA 09 lockups on: August 19, 2008, 04:02:10 PM
 icon_frown icon_frown icon_frown

Continued lockups after steps taken above.

Going to try deleting all custom sounds and trying it without them.    Like I said before -- I managed an entire away game, but home games freeze 100% of the time now.
1912  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: SPORE has Gone Gold! on: August 19, 2008, 01:40:48 PM
What if you want to allow only offensive content?
1913  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: SPORE has Gone Gold! on: August 19, 2008, 12:00:18 PM

Quote from: Orgull on August 19, 2008, 04:20:24 AM

TO see if SPORE will run on your PC, Go here, dowload the control and select "SPORE" from the drop-down list. It is fairly accurate.

Good deal!  I'm in the green baby!    I figured Wright would make it so that a wide swath of people could play it and not just the high end hardcore upgraders.
1914  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 continuing NCAA 09 lockups on: August 19, 2008, 03:27:12 AM

Tonight it went like this:

Tried to play home game 3 times.   Freeze.  Freeze.  Freeze.

Got fed up, got out to menu, deleted game data and all saves.

Booted up, downloaded patch, fired the game up and set everything back up again including sounds.

Played a complete away game (season opener).     I'm tired, so the real test has to wait until tomorrow when I can play a home game.
1915  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: SPORE has Gone Gold! on: August 18, 2008, 11:28:57 PM
Can anyone guess whether this thing will run decently on a 2.26 ghz Pentium M with a 7800 GTX Go?
1916  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 continuing NCAA 09 lockups on: August 18, 2008, 10:14:14 PM

The game has become unplayable for me.    I wonder if I should delete everything (profile, save games, music, etc) and start completely over as if I just bought the game.     Maybe something along the line fouled something up.
1917  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 continuing NCAA 09 lockups on: August 18, 2008, 11:27:09 AM

Crap.   I wonder what the problem is.     

I have custom sounds.   You think that has something to do with it?    Seems to only happen (now that I think about it) at home games -- home games are the only time custom sounds play.
1918  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 continuing NCAA 09 lockups on: August 18, 2008, 03:25:45 AM

Starting about a week or so ago, I started getting freezes in-game.    They've patched the roster issue, but I'm suddenly getting freezes.   I'm lucky if I can get one game in without it.

Anyone have any idea what is going on here?
1919  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: SPORE has Gone Gold! on: August 16, 2008, 12:34:18 AM
Does this thing require a dual core?   Am I once again going to be left on the outside looking in?
1920  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Another Unfaithful, Dishonest Democrat on: August 09, 2008, 09:58:16 PM
Obama wouldn't touch him with a 50 ft pole now.    So yeah I think he's pretty much out.
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