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161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 10 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 10:06:07 PM

Quote from: farley2k on November 21, 2013, 10:03:46 PM

Come on, we can do this!  Just a few hours left and the thread isn't locked.  Don't ruin it at the end, please.

Truth.   Updating countdown now.
162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 09:52:49 PM

Quote from: Zinfan on November 21, 2013, 09:39:58 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 07:39:21 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 07:34:20 PM

If it makes you feel any better, Hetz, even Ars Technica has officially endorsed the Xbox One.  icon_twisted



And here I was thinking it really should be saying "Oh Snap"

 icon_lol
163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 09:52:19 PM

Quote from: Caine on November 21, 2013, 08:40:32 PM

Quote from: farley2k on November 21, 2013, 07:47:49 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 07:34:20 PM

If it makes you feel any better, Hetz, even Ars Technica has officially endorsed the Xbox One.  icon_twisted

Not exactly a rousing recommendation.

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But if you held a gun to my head and said I had to pick a system today, I'd probably point toward the Xbox One—primarily for its game lineup and partly for its interface and the still-in-their-infancy media features. (Also, I'm not currently budget-conscious enough to mind the price difference too much.) Once you calmed down and lowered the gun, though, I'd tell you to wait and see.

yeah, the biggest similarity between all of these reviews is that neither is as good as people hoped they would be or expect they will be in 2-3 years time.  is it amazing or sad that after 7-8 years we still expect more out of the next gen than what they're giving us?  makes me wonder what the next gen after will have and whether we will be happy to have it or only compare to some unrealistic goal?  it's the early-adopter tax and we happily pay it as the flaws generally work themselves out over time, but not so much that we regret our purchase.  

good gaming everyone.  

Both consoles will make it worth the cost over time I think.   I never regretted my original purchases of 360 and PS3.    Well...maybe a little when my original 360 red-ringed.    Hope there isn't a fatal flaw like that this time around with either of them.
164  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 10 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 09:48:16 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on November 21, 2013, 09:32:26 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 09:07:20 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on November 21, 2013, 09:03:24 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 08:59:03 PM

It just feels worse because now you're finally on the receiving end.
No, there has been a distinct lack of name calling, showboating, and mocking gifs from one "side" the entire time.

I wasn't referring to anyone on this forum as knackers.   There are plenty of knackers across the internet that have been bombing Xbone comment sections, etc that I'm directly referring to as having predicted doom for the console.

be careful, knackers can get their knickers in a twist and cross their arms across their knockers while looking knackered at all the knocking about their egos are taking and then go out to get snockered only to be snookered when the barkeep is revealed to have snickered at their plight.

As usual that was amazing Ceekay
165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 10 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 09:07:20 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on November 21, 2013, 09:03:24 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 08:59:03 PM

It just feels worse because now you're finally on the receiving end.
No, there has been a distinct lack of name calling, showboating, and mocking gifs from one "side" the entire time.

I wasn't referring to anyone on this forum as knackers.   There are plenty of knackers across the internet that have been bombing Xbone comment sections, etc that I'm directly referring to as having predicted doom for the console.
166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 10 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 09:02:17 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 08:59:03 PM

It just feels worse because now you're finally on the receiving end.

 thumbsup
167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 08:09:58 PM


On a side note:

My amazon.com order is still showing 'shipping now', but I've yet to receive tracking information.    By this time last week I had tracking information for my PS4.    I've elevated my concern to level 8 out of 10.
168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 11.5 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 07:55:01 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 07:47:38 PM

I'm sure that PS4 will pull ahead when it starts launching in Europe and elsewhere, but ultimately it doesn't really matter. Market share will be decided much later down the road.

True.  Either way Bone sales are not the catastrophe that was being predicted by Knackers.
169  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 07:53:15 PM
Bone is getting huge exposure on CNN today.   They have folks reporting from a room with live actors dressed as gladiators and zombies.   Also showing footage of the zombies walking around New York.

Big time exposure to non-hardcore gamer groups.
170  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 07:42:18 PM
Btw that Boom is for the endorsement, not directed at Hetz.   I'm excited that Hetz is going to be on board. I want to chop up some zombies with him.
171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 07:39:21 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 07:34:20 PM

If it makes you feel any better, Hetz, even Ars Technica has officially endorsed the Xbox One.  icon_twisted

172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 11.5 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 07:13:48 PM


Holy 'the sky is not falling after all' batman!!!!

Xbone preorders closing in on PS4 numbers
173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 07:03:59 PM

Quote from: Hetz on November 21, 2013, 06:40:09 PM

What the hell....I'm in. Everything in my head is telling me no way....but......

I'll be picking one up tonight at Best Buy along with Dead Rising 3. I'm a sucker for console launches. I'm so ashamed.... icon_confused

Dead Rising 3 HETZ!!!!!  DR3!!!!!
174  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 21, 2013, 04:05:19 PM

Quote from: Teggy on November 21, 2013, 03:58:10 PM

Well you know initially I wanted to make the PS4 in my living room my primary PS4, but then I realized I spent a lot of time in my bedroom, so I changed that one to primary. Then I found myself doing a lot of cooking, so I changed it to the kitchen PS4. Then I finally came to my senses and made my bathroom PS4 primary.

 thumbsup
175  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 16 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 03:52:42 PM


Couple tidbits I'm getting from the interwebs:

For voice commands, if you are having trouble people are having a lot of luck going into settings and calibrating the voice detection.  There is a selection in there for 'Xbox is having trouble hearing me'.   So there is a voice calibration that you can do.

Also, here is an unboxing for the Day One edition:

link
176  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 21, 2013, 03:17:37 PM

Quote from: Hetz on November 21, 2013, 12:30:09 PM

Quote from: Teggy on November 21, 2013, 05:50:07 AM

It asked me during setup. 

Same here.


Me too, but an IGN correction to their review tells you to be sure and go into settings to make it your primary.  I wonder if it's a situation only IGN came across because they might have more than one PS4 they are looking at?   I dunno....

I did it just in case.
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 16 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 02:05:21 PM


My Bone has shipped.    Dead Rising also shipped.
178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 24 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 05:34:12 AM

The gamespot unboxing video has a dude in it that reminds me of Conan O'Brien.
179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 05:28:15 AM

Quote from: Purge on November 21, 2013, 05:19:08 AM

Quote from: JCC on November 21, 2013, 05:03:01 AM

Gamespot unboxing video.

I think this is different from the one mentioned above.

Far, far better unboxing.

Note they are unboxing regular editions -- not the Day One editions
180  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 05:14:13 AM
Quote

When all else fails, attack the messenger....not the message. If you just want to throw around silly pics and names, then by all means have at it. Care to refute the review? The PS4 is $100 cheaper and plays the multiplatform games better. The XB1 has exclusives though and if you like them, then you should get the XB1. What is wrong in that statement?


I will pose this question one more time.   When all else WHAT fails?   Reviews have been slightly more positive on the Xbone hardware than the PS4.   There is nothing to defend against except the pile on.
181  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 04:56:48 AM

Quote from: Purge on November 21, 2013, 04:46:46 AM

We gonna dig up taglines? Have you watched the very first video of the dude unpacking it?

He is not the guy I'd stand behind and go "This guys' opinion matters to me!" Because, really, his entire tone, JUST OPENING THE BOX, is "How is this less than PS4". If that's what you're looking for - perhaps an external validation of your own beliefs, go for it. I'm good though. I kinda know what I'm getting myself into, and I'm ok with it. I'll take the lesser console, s'cool.

a bunch of friends from work are all going with the Xbox one, and I think I'm not missing out by skipping on the both consoles yet. I'm looking forward to some upcoming titles and we'll see where things sit by Q1. Until then, it looks like I've got some good gaming ahead of me. Perhaps not the best, but I don't have another 600+tax to shell out.


Aside from the guy being biased.   I would like to see an unboxing vid.    Can you link it?
182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 21, 2013, 04:25:02 AM

What is wrong with me?  I have KZ and NBA2k but I can't stop playing Madden.

It's the least next gen of the titles!    Damn you football season.....
183  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 03:12:09 AM

Quote from: Lee on November 21, 2013, 02:41:19 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 02:14:46 AM

The other item was the voice controls.  YK posted two videos clearly showing them work, and work well.

Multiple reviews claim otherwise.

So I'm to trust a written review over what I see with my own eyes in video?
184  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 21, 2013, 03:09:21 AM


According to IGN, you should go into your settings and make your PS4 your 'primary PS4'.   This will enable offline play.
185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What is the worst game you've ever played? on: November 21, 2013, 02:17:14 AM


Dear God.  I remember Hand Simulator.   That was perhaps the game that had the most hype with the most horrible delivery of any game I've ever played.
186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 02:14:46 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 21, 2013, 02:11:38 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 02:01:53 AM

Quote from: Hetz on November 21, 2013, 01:52:27 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 21, 2013, 01:42:44 AM

Yes I don't understand why you're being defensive either. I don't think anyone has spared Sony. Tons of people said that they wouldn't get the PS4 if it didn't have local streaming which as an extremely valid point.
Also, why are you expecting congratulations for good reviews? Did you make the game?

Yeah, there are some people here that are VERY defensive over the XB1. I don't blame them, I'd be defensive as well and was when the shoe was on the other foot when they were kicking the PS3 all around this forum. It's kind of amusing seeing the Xbox crowd on the defensive after all the aggressive trash talking last generation. What goes around, comes around.

It's all good though. I may even get an XB1 tomorrow night. LOL....it's mine if I want it. I still don't know. It depends on Ryse reviews.

I bought both consoles back then, and I bought both this time around.  I'm not being defensive.  I'm calling people out on pure out TROLLING against the Bone these past months.  Twice today already the bandwagon jumped out of their collective pajamas on two stories that turned out to be false or totally misleading.

Edit to add:  I'm hopeful on Ryse.   The Forza reviews are positive over all, and apparently the graphics are stupid pretty.


I'm not sure that it's trolling. Are they lying? Someone posted a link to the Microsoft support page that stated specifically that it did not support surround sound. Is it their fault that MS did a 180 on so much stuff that they weren't able to update all the things they changed?  I'm not sure what the second story is so I can't comment about it.  I would have to say that Sony's shit gets posted about as often as Xboxs shit but is it their fault that MS has so much more to post about? Currently, looking at Google news, both products seem to be getting equally as warm of a reception as the other. There's no conspiracy here.

The other item was the voice controls.  YK posted two videos clearly showing them work, and work well.
187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 02:06:03 AM

Quote from: ATB on November 21, 2013, 02:03:20 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 01:27:55 AM

Look, here's the deal.

Ever since E3 we've heard nothing but shit against the Xbox.


Who cares? 

People that are trying to have a discussion about good features of the Xbone?
188  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: [Vita] Tearaway, Media Molecule's newest on: November 21, 2013, 02:04:32 AM


This is going on my Christmas list.

It's a testament to the Vita's power that reviewers can't help themselves from comparing it to full blown consoles.
189  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 02:01:53 AM

Quote from: Hetz on November 21, 2013, 01:52:27 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 21, 2013, 01:42:44 AM

Yes I don't understand why you're being defensive either. I don't think anyone has spared Sony. Tons of people said that they wouldn't get the PS4 if it didn't have local streaming which as an extremely valid point.
Also, why are you expecting congratulations for good reviews? Did you make the game?

Yeah, there are some people here that are VERY defensive over the XB1. I don't blame them, I'd be defensive as well and was when the shoe was on the other foot when they were kicking the PS3 all around this forum. It's kind of amusing seeing the Xbox crowd on the defensive after all the aggressive trash talking last generation. What goes around, comes around.

It's all good though. I may even get an XB1 tomorrow night. LOL....it's mine if I want it. I still don't know. It depends on Ryse reviews.

I bought both consoles back then, and I bought both this time around.  I'm not being defensive.  I'm calling people out on pure out TROLLING against the Bone these past months.  Twice today already the bandwagon jumped out of their collective pajamas on two stories that turned out to be false or totally misleading.

Edit to add:  I'm hopeful on Ryse.   The Forza reviews are positive over all, and apparently the graphics are stupid pretty.

190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 01:54:54 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on November 21, 2013, 01:52:52 AM

I'm not sure I'd call that elegant, but once it is in the black glass caverns of my tv stand I'll never really see the form factor except for the glowing lights and the silver highlight of its electronic vagina.


biggrin

In person, it looks elegant.   Trust me.

You'll see Friday and as you rub it all over YK's bare chest, you will come to this thread and say that I was right.
191  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 01:50:55 AM


To me, this is very elegant:

192  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 01:40:06 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 21, 2013, 01:38:27 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 01:01:04 AM

Quote from: Scraper on November 21, 2013, 12:09:30 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 12:02:12 AM



Saw a Bone display model on the way home tonight, and it was sexy as hell.    The design is very modern and simple.   It was also smaller than I was led to believe by the internet lynch mob.

Now I know you're smoking something. The Bone is a HUGE square box with very little design in it. Heck it looks like someone took an old desktop computer that was designed to have the monitor sit on top of it and painted it black then threw an Xbox symbol on the side. What exactly is sexy about that?

Edited to add that I couldn't care less what the machines look like, but to say it looks sexy and modern is just crazy.

I've said since the reveals that I loved the Bone design.   I never have been into Sony's style of making their consoles look oblong or oddly shaped.   The Bone is very elegant now that I've seen one in person.
I respect MSD's right to think that the Xbone is sexy. That is a subjective quality after all. Most of us and practically all of the reviews I have read would respectfully disagree however. On the other hand, who spends time looking at their console? I can barely recall what my PS3 looks like.

I don't like the external brick though.   I'll give Sony major points for that.
193  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 01:29:02 AM

Just a reminder CeeKay.   My Xbone Kinect is going to be pointed directly at my bed.
194  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 01:04:09 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on November 20, 2013, 11:33:24 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 20, 2013, 10:21:35 PM

Quote from: Teggy on November 20, 2013, 10:04:29 PM

Albert Penello clarifies:

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That's not how it works.

We do automatically sync Save Games and Upload clips, so there is no need for storage management on that - it's all in the cloud.

For full downloads and Aps we do NOT automatically delete anything. You get a prompt when you run out of space, and you can manually uninstall what you want.

Keep in mind, external storage support is coming post-launch. This is a short-term issue we know needs to get better, but just for clarity we don't auto-delete anything.

Are you telling me that the knee-jerk anti-Microsoft reaction here on these forums was premature?

NONSENSE!!!!  

Yellowking!   Set Teggy straight please!  slywink

Yeah, not defensive at all...

Not defensive.   Sick of the bullshit piling on that is going on in this forum.    Yellowking and Soulchilde would agree with me I think.
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 01:01:04 AM

Quote from: Scraper on November 21, 2013, 12:09:30 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 12:02:12 AM



Saw a Bone display model on the way home tonight, and it was sexy as hell.    The design is very modern and simple.   It was also smaller than I was led to believe by the internet lynch mob.

Now I know you're smoking something. The Bone is a HUGE square box with very little design in it. Heck it looks like someone took an old desktop computer that was designed to have the monitor sit on top of it and painted it black then threw an Xbox symbol on the side. What exactly is sexy about that?

Edited to add that I couldn't care less what the machines look like, but to say it looks sexy and modern is just crazy.

I've said since the reveals that I loved the Bone design.   I never have been into Sony's style of making their consoles look oblong or oddly shaped.   The Bone is very elegant now that I've seen one in person.
196  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 12:02:12 AM


Saw a Bone display model on the way home tonight, and it was sexy as hell.    The design is very modern and simple.   It was also smaller than I was led to believe by the internet lynch mob.
197  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 12:01:05 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 20, 2013, 11:11:35 PM

I also find it odd that (not necessarily on this forum, but on the internets in general) fans of xbox have gone from "yeah I have a PS3-i mean Netflix machine-but it's all about the games man. GAMES GAMES GAMES! If I want to watch a movie I'll turn on my PS3" to "It's all about the media capabilities man. All the PS4 can do is play games. It's basically a PS 3.5."
The reversal of opinion is intriguing.

Ironic considering the PS3 turned out to be the better console last generation primarily because of the way it pushed the boundaries of media with Bluray.
198  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 10:46:10 PM

Oh and ATB, I respectfully disagree on locking this thread.    This thread keeps the arguing encapsulated to one place.   Elsewhere on the forum things are very peaceful.  It's not like that in the internet wilds.
199  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 10:40:05 PM

Quote from: Purge on November 20, 2013, 08:03:41 PM

It was a light-hearted jab back. biggrin
They're on damage control right now, which is to be expected with any failure rate.

If a single Xbone fails to boot, the lynch mob already has the torches ready. slywink

At this point, the Bone could go with 100% success rate and someone out there is going to put down his Knack, hit one with a bat, and then come here to complain how the system couldn't even withstand a hit from a bat.

Have I pushed this the past three posts enough for the usual suspects to feign neutrality and say that despite three pages of pissing on Xbone reviews (which came out higher than PS4 reviews btw) that us Bone buyers are being defensive because of the absolute disaster of the past 24 hours?
200  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 10:35:55 PM

Quote from: Canuck on November 20, 2013, 10:29:49 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 20, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

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seeing the ign raw video makes me a bit bummed.  the voice commands don't appear to work any better than they did in Kinect 1.0.  in fact, it felt pretty much exactly what I remember with Kinect 1.0.  it seems like half of the time, the commands need to be repeated.  

From what I'm reading, there's a learning curve in figuring out how the Kinect wants to hear commands. If you just say "XboxForzaMotorsport5" it's not going to work and you're going to think it's non-responsive. You have to do a short pause after the Xbox to notify the unit you're about to issue the command. The IGN guy was running his words together quite often when it didn't respond. (Though I was surprised that even when he was running his words together it was still able to understand him quite often).

If you watch the video there were several times where the dude just wasn't using the right command. (For instance, saying "Xbox what's on MTV" before doing a Select).

Now I don't believe for a second that voice recognition is 100% perfect on the thing, but it is a machine and you can't blame it for not interpreting your intentions.
I'm not sure I agree with you unless by "running his words together" you mean "speaking naturally". As one review already mentioned you feel idiotic enough talking to your electronics, never mind having to do it slowly and clearly.

I would advise that you watch the gizmodo video.   The guy doesn't sound strange talking to his at all, and it works perfectly.
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