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12681  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Do you REALLY believe that extraterrestrial life has visited Earth? on: April 22, 2009, 06:17:39 PM

but right now....i don't
12682  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Terra Day on: April 22, 2009, 06:15:11 PM
well,being unemployed i have pretty much had every electrical appliance on in the house all day icon_neutral

funny cartoon Tongue
12683  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena on: April 22, 2009, 05:39:06 PM

Quote from: jztemple2 on April 15, 2009, 04:45:19 PM

It's been quiet on this game for a couple of weeks. Any further impressions?

yeah i am interested in some more impressions as well,as this game finally gets released here on friday

12684  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout: New Vegas Announced on: April 22, 2009, 04:58:26 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on April 21, 2009, 11:37:41 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on April 21, 2009, 08:37:36 PM

I wonder which series sells better. I would guess it has to be oblivion because FO was gone for so many years.

It's hard to say for sure, but it appears that Fallout 3 outsold Oblivion.  Wikipedia has a source that says total Oblivion console sales were roughly 1.75 million, and while that doesn't include PC sales I doubt it was more then another 500k.  Meanwhile IGN reported at launch that Fallout 3 shipped more then 4.5 million copies.  While that is shipped numbers and not actual sales, I doubt retailers would still be holding to the full price that Fallout 3 is still going for six months after launch if they were sitting on tons of copies from launch.  So it's probably safe to assume most of that initial shipment has been sold.

i know this may be a stupid question,but do those Oblivion sales include GOTY editions? the GOTY edition is still in the top ten at our local GAME shop
12685  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Man-on-the-street interview + Aardman animation = Pure Win on: April 22, 2009, 02:09:01 AM
that video is not available in my area

have you guys never had Creature Comforts before?,i think Creature Comforts were what Aardman was famous for before Wallace and Gromit or Chicken Run,at least here

this one is a pretty old clip

its currently running here on saturday nights on ITV...the Giraffe in that makes me makes me laugh,as it has braces on its goofy teeth
12686  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: More DLC for Oblivion in 2009? on: April 21, 2009, 08:46:59 PM
Rumour Squashed icon_cry

False Alarm — April 21st, 2009

Matt "Gstaff" Grandstaff from Bethesda has quashed rumors that there will be another Official Plug-in for Oblivion. His first announcement was "To clarify, we don’t have any plans for new content for Oblivion, but like Pete said, there are some plans to do something with Oblivion. When I have more information, I’ll share it with you guys" and when pressed for more information, said "Something could be anything. For instance, the half off DLC promotion we did a few weeks ago was something. There's nothing in the interview that points to new DLC -- Fighter's Stronghold was the last one. Sorry if we got your hopes up".
12687  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout: New Vegas Announced on: April 21, 2009, 08:44:56 PM

Quote from: Sarkus on April 21, 2009, 08:21:59 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on April 21, 2009, 08:13:39 PM

Bethesda certainly do seem to have a lot on at the moment,what with this,the Fallout 3 DLC(Broken Steel...which i hope isnt the last,but most probably is)..the rumoured new Oblivion DLC and also Oblivions sequel The Elder Scrolls 5 set in Skyrim is meant to be due for 2010 also

Maybe I'm wrong, but the intended release of Fallout:Vegas make me think the next Elder Scrolls game isn't going to be out next year.  I don't see them releasing two major titles in the same year.  So I'm assuming that means the ES game isn't until 2011 now.

aww i hope not...been looking forward to TES5,i actually got the 2010 date from the TES wikiTES wiki ,which is pretty damn cool...i knew already that Bethesda had announced they were working on TES5 as soon as Oblivion was released

and as you can see form that front page,the Oblivion DLC was not true..bah
12688  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout: New Vegas Announced on: April 21, 2009, 08:13:39 PM
whats with the trend of Vegas games anyway?..we have had 'This is Vegas',Rainbow six Vegas,and we have Dead Rising 2 coming and now Vegas becoming the New New york like of the late 90s/early 00s video games?

Bethesda certainly do seem to have a lot on at the moment,what with this,the Fallout 3 DLC(Broken Steel...which i hope isnt the last,but most probably is)..the rumoured new Oblivion DLC and also Oblivions sequel The Elder Scrolls 5 set in Skyrim is meant to be due for 2010 also

12689  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: April 21, 2009, 06:14:29 PM
yes,really am looking forward to wont just be this DLC pack,it will be them all as i have been holding back from getting and DLC until this one was out

Spoiler for Hiden:
so who reckons the change is that you only have the option to kick that Lyons girl into the chamber to do your dirty work!! icon_twisted

yay for Puppies dog no longer has to wait for me at home icon_biggrin
12690  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Shii...for women on: April 21, 2009, 06:10:26 PM
a friend has just showed me this which i thought was F.A.F.

i was gonna put this in the console gaming,but thought better not

before you click on the youtube aware it may not be suitable for Work or if kids are present,and some women may not like it either
12691  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: End of TV Season Thunderdome: A bunch of shows enter... on: April 21, 2009, 01:51:27 AM
as said in another thread it is the end of Pushing daisy's as well

shame about Terminator,i never saw it but it was always on my list to watch..and i havent heard anything about bringing back Scrubs,i love Scrubs but if its a revamped cast..i may stay away

bah,and still no news about Futurama's future..i loved the series,watched the DVD movies and hoped it would be enough to bring it back icon_frown

ooh and LOTR coming to Blu Ray..nice box,and $70 isnt bad(boo at it being the theatrical versions)
12692  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: FF7,MGS,RE:DC all coming to US PSN on: April 21, 2009, 01:43:57 AM
a little update on this,it seems that the Playstation 1 classics Final Fantasy VII,Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil:Directors Cut are all making their way to the U.S PSN

no didnt expect one did you?

We’ve all had the same thought.  With the enourmous library of PlayStation One titles at Sony’s disposal, why haven’t more PSOne Classics made their way to the PS Store?

Well soon enough, you won’t have to ask that question again, as the word is that Sony will be bringing a big chunk of PSN classics to the North American PS Store.  Even more specific, they plan on bringing 3 of the titles which helped make PlayStation king.  Those 3 titles are Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil: Director’s Cut, and (drum roll please…) Final Fantasy VII.

No mention of when exactly this is going to happen, but you can expect them soon.
12693  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout: New Vegas Announced on: April 20, 2009, 10:24:13 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on April 20, 2009, 09:45:27 PM

there is a big Bethesda even here in London.  I will have more announcements tomorrow.   smile

more Bethesda announcements,or more other game announcements?

and they have a big Bethesda department in London?,i never knew that,i knew that Bethesda was named because it is in Bethesda in DC(right?)..and i knew there was a Bethesda in Wales in the UK icon_biggrin(that place is about an hours drive form me)...and isnt there one in Cananda as well?
12694  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Sacred 2 finally gold! on: April 20, 2009, 06:00:08 PM
when going Gold,how many copies is that exactly?...100k?

and i downloaded the PC demo,which didnt work...i get this following message

An Exception has occured

An Exception has been thrown
error #9
line 740
stack unwinding
<<call stack>>

as i have no knowledge of PCs or PC gaming i presumed my PC wasnt powerful enough to run the demo,which doesnt suprise me
12695  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: It's 4/20 on: April 20, 2009, 02:53:48 PM

Quote from: morlac on April 20, 2009, 01:40:26 PM

I love me some 420!  It's Hitler's Bday afterall.    saywhat

shit...that means its my sisters birthday as well icon_confused

so,without having to look it up,whats all this 4/20 stuff about,did something happen on this date to do with the wacky baccy?
12696  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Sacred 2 finally gold! on: April 20, 2009, 02:00:27 PM

Quote from: Gratch on April 19, 2009, 07:55:12 PM

I was initially very excited this one was coming to 360.  However, I tried the PC version and it was the very definition of "meh".

Take Diablo's gameplay, pull out every tiny shred of personality or creativity, throw in approximately 4,370 more quests, make the world 150x larger, and you've got Sacred 2. 

if i have never played Diablo...then this should rock for me..right?
12697  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (4/19) on: April 20, 2009, 01:36:55 PM
none of that list...however

Riddick is out this week (in the UK)so i may pick that up

Godfather 2 and resi evil 5 may make my 360 tray also
12698  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: April 20, 2009, 01:34:50 PM
apparently Kotaku are reporting that Bethesda have just announced Fallout New Vegas at a London Conference...its a new game and it will be out on PC/360/PS3 next year

Fallout New Vegas was announced moments ago during a Bethesda press conference in London.

The new game was revealed by Bethesda's Pete Hines who said that the publisher is working with Obsidian Entertainment on the title.

It will be coming out next year for the PC, Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

"It is not a sequel to Fallout 3," Hines said. "It's simply another Fallout game in that universe."

It will be the same sort of role-playing game experience seen in Fallot 3, he said. The game's official reveal, with more details and a look at the game down the line.

Hines added that this title will have no impact on what Todd Howard and his team are working on.

i didnt think a new game would be out so fast
12699  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Hobbit finds a director on: April 20, 2009, 04:52:18 AM
really looking forward to this,if it couldnt be Peter Jackson,the Del Toro is the perfect replacement for at the helm

so,it is now The Hobbit the book split into two movies?...i think i may of prefered the first idea,but i suppose if they can't jam in everything from The Hobbit into 1 movie(they each can still be a 4hr epic cant they??)..then so be it,they may as well go for another 3 films....the Hobbit Trilogy to go with the LOTR trilogy

has anything been said about the casting of Bilbo yet?,i would so love it to be Ian Holm again,but afraid he maybe getting too old to play the part of young Blibo ...i know both Ian Mckellen and Andy Serkis are rumoured to be repriseing their roles again for Gandalf and Gollum/Smeagal
12700  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: April 20, 2009, 04:04:13 AM
like a lot of people i am waiting for the new DLC for the level 30 ranks,so that we don't waste XP,as we are already reached level 20 with half the main story still to do..i have finished the game before but this is my second playthrough

just found the new achievements for the Broken Steel DLC,i heard awhile ago that this was to add up to 150 points(the other two DLC being 100 points each)

still no real date set in stone though for this,i have just heard end of April,beginning of May doesnt seem however that long since the pitt,so they may have delayed it a while

notice the good,bad and the ugly Neutral level 30 achievements!!

Death From Above
Completed "Death From Above"

Shock Value
Completed "Shock Value"

Who Dares Wins
Completed "Who Dares Wins"

Reached Level 30 with Bad Karma

True Mortal
Reached Level 30 with Neutral Karma

Reached Level 30 with Good Karma
12701  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: March 2009 NPD Sales on: April 20, 2009, 03:21:40 AM

Quote from: Godzilla Blitz on April 20, 2009, 12:39:47 AM

It's possible I just missed everything, but I thought the marketing for Chinatown Wars was weak. I didn't see much press or ads about the game.

About the only thing I knew was that it was a top-down version of GTA, much like the original two releases. That didn't make me want to learn more about the game, let alone want to play it.

agreed i heard or saw nothing on TV about it except in a recent episode of South Park when Eric Cartman wanted it,LOL

the new game is at a slight angle so it looks like it isnt fully like the old style GTAs
12702  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBOX LIVE Silver...Gold.....V.I.P? on: April 20, 2009, 03:13:22 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on April 19, 2009, 10:53:06 PM

Quote from: depward on April 19, 2009, 10:46:29 PM

4)  Hip Hop Gamer Show?

any credibility is gone with that name.

LOL,i actually got this story and link from the front page of

i hadnt heard of the site before this
12703  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Final 3 Pushing Daisies episodes on: April 20, 2009, 03:08:34 AM
my mum loves the show,but thats prolly because Anna Friel used to be in one of her favourite soaps here,i dont mind it....but it hasn't got a great time slot here,my mum usually tapes it...11pm friday nights
12704  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Sacred 2 finally gold! on: April 19, 2009, 07:26:10 PM
i am already pissed off over this game this weekend after finding out that the 360 version in the UK wont be reaching us until June 5th,because of different publishers or something,but taking how much this game has already been delayed you would think they could of got it all sorted out for the usual 3 day release totally screws up a few gaming plans i had with a certain American girl (Myto)

recently the xbox live friends list is more a curse than a good thing,all i see are Americans playing the games that i want to play(Riddick,ToV,Star Ocean etc)...i swear i hate being European,why can't we and Australia just have your version???

i have heard the game is region free,but i dont usually like to take that chance just incase it isnt,and i havent got a credit card to order it anyway and as i am not exactly flowing in cash so it was gonna be a trade in purchase...oh gaming gods why do you hate me???

the PC version will prolly go down in price for you soon anyway,its been out since last October hasnt it?
12705  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [trailer] Battle for Terra on: April 19, 2009, 06:53:10 PM
i thought Terra was another name for Earth?

looks so-so,not my thing...humans taking over a planet and having a hard time of it because of some bugs ..and not even Starship Troopers type bugs...disgust

'its a trap' that a Admiral Ackbar nod?
12706  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / XBOX LIVE Silver...Gold.....V.I.P? on: April 19, 2009, 06:20:15 PM
i am not really sold on this rumor..i think that's all it is at the moment

xbox live is getting another option after Gold/Silver called V.I.P

Xbox 360 continues not to disappoint their fans

After seeing the latest numbers from the NPD, it’s safe to say the Xbox 360 is a beast! As for the Xbox Live, just when people thought Microsoft couldn’t do anymore with this incredible feature, they’re about to show and prove once again, when they introduce “V.I.P. Membership”.

But Xbox Live is already spectacular, what else can they do?

According too a customers survey done in France, Microsoft is considering a new level of Xbox Live called the VIP service. Now with this upgraded version

-users will be able to get online storage for their content
-a brand new matchmaking option
-an option that allows the user too send free invitations to silver members,
-and better connectivity.

It’s no denying that Xbox Live’s gold members are reaping the awards that Microsoft has provided them and with this optional addition it can’t do anything but expand on this already great feature.

Is this new feature worth it?

Xbox Live members should give the “V.I.P. Membership” a warm welcome, the upgrade will allow for better connectivity for online gaming, online storage, etc. Only time will tell if users will adapt to this upcoming addition, hopefully we hear some more news about V.I.P. at E3.

although i am sure it will be a good thing,if true....i am quite happy paying 40quid a year for Xbox Live Gold..,and at the moment those extra features i dont need right now

also,why the hell are they surveying the French?

i am also suspect over how much this article seems to 'love' xbox live...i'm a big fan myself,but i haven't kissed ass like this for a long time Tongue

maybe,this is a way for Microsoft to get round players demanding xbox live be free,by letting silver players play online with V.I.P friends...but either way,i am not looking forward to how much extra they are gonna storage isnt cheap is it?
12707  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Lost returns next week! [Spoilers!] on: April 19, 2009, 03:45:55 AM

Quote from: th'FOOL on April 19, 2009, 02:02:07 AM

'Follow The Leader' is about Richard Alpert

good...maybe we will see him in the 1700s or something,or when he first became a daywalker(Vampire that can be out in the sun) i am interested to know why he doesn't age....a better theory is maybe he was originally on the Black Rock and that's how he came to the island(i have no real theory on why he doesn't age)..he does have a connection with Locke though,he was present at his birth and also visited him again when he was 5 or 6,and told his mother(parent guide)that he considered Locke special and thought he ought to go to a school for 'special people'

he gave Locke a test with a penknife,a book and an egg timer or a compass maybe...and told him to choose one(maybe more)after Locke chose,he walked out and told his mother he was mistaken...he came to him again 10 years or so later

didnt Richard give Locke a Compass to give back to him(this season) in the past when Locke would leap back in time?..i wonder if that was the same compass from the test?..(in the test he asked Locke to choose which objects were already his)

okay i am confusing myself here now

didnt i read somewhere that everyone was gonna split up?..(Jacks group Vs Sawyers group)..not just split up like be in different places but fall out,one group stays with Dharma one group goes with the Others
12708  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist - 04/17/09 on: April 19, 2009, 01:38:50 AM
Oblivion 360

just finished up shivering isles,i have a few odd quests to do there,and then its back to the mainland to do Mehrazors lair and Knights of the nine and then i am finished

thinking of starting the metal gear series again
twin snakes on the cube
MGS2 on the xbox
MGS3 on the PS2
MGS4 on the PS3

and also if i can get into MGSpo on the PSP...can't say i dont use all my consoles(sorry DS)
12709  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Lost returns next week! [Spoilers!] on: April 19, 2009, 01:32:45 AM
not a bad episode,miles* better than the one before last weeks episode(the one with Kate giving up Aaron,that was one of the most boring episodes ever)

*pun intended

i pretty much guessed Hurley was writing Empire when he asked about bounty hunter..but mainly because i knew the episode was called 'Some like it hoth'. icon_wink....i can say that i dont want to read his version,LOL..'put down the lightsabres and talk about it'

so,4 episodes to go...and thats just enough time for the shit to hit the fan at the Dharma camp,and to leave us on a cliffhanger until next february disgust
12710  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Collectors Edition Games gone mad (Ghostbusters) on: April 18, 2009, 01:52:05 PM
sorry for the double post

just found this video on youtube..8 minutes long,apparently its the video they were showing at Comic-con,shows gameplay inside the NYC library,all good stuff....but,as i am deaf,i will be using those subtitles..but i just wish they weren't so 'in your face'..they should get rid of the big box surrounding the dialogue

good stuff(PS3 version)

EDIT:this looks really great...this time it has a little(i dont mean he is small) marshmellowman at the beginning

interesting stuff with the slime gun

music could be a little less dramatic at every point though
12711  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: March 2009 NPD Sales on: April 18, 2009, 01:41:42 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on April 18, 2009, 03:17:17 AM

BTW, that's a ton of copies of RE5 that were sold. And people said the demo would hurt sales Tongue

i gotta admit i thought that,not just after playing the demo..but actually listening to myself and others complain about it  afterwards...imagine if the demo pleased everyone!!! is still on my too buy list,i have just put it on the back burner for now
12712  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Can Home be salvaged? on: April 18, 2009, 01:39:27 PM
haven't been back on since maybe a week or two after look about,you do some jiggyin' in front of the big screen playing music,you talk to a few people,you log out never to return

i did see that you can have Star Trek clothes on your dude(or dudess)..but then again i bet you have to pay for them...everything else is so so....the cinema is pretty good(the European cinema is actually better than the 1 screen U.S i have both on my PS3)and the cinema could actually be cool if it didn't take an age to download/stream/whatever to watch the trailers

could it be saved?...well the 'spaces' are a different idea,but once you have been there,looked about i for one didn't bother going back(think it was the far cry pub and station or something like that)

maybe if my xbox live friends list was on my PS3 and me and my friends actually were on the PS3 like we are on the xbox,we could all have fun hanging out...i suppose it depends on if you have a friends list that you have people on there who you play with regularly.
12713  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Collectors Edition Games gone mad (Ghostbusters) on: April 17, 2009, 07:52:40 PM
i actually had it for the Spectrum +2 128k(with built in datacorder)..i liked the vehicle parts where you pretty much had to drive into the ghosts scrolling down the screen..and i used to sing along on the title screen because they had the words appearing to the song

and are half way there,they only made one more film after the original(number 3 on its way)

how does this game play(360/PS3)? and another friend were hoping for sandbox type(if you see Egon in that picture above in NYC),get a call go find the street,house etc bust that ghost...and is there any co-op?1-4 players for this could be sweet
12714  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Collectors Edition Games gone mad (Ghostbusters) on: April 17, 2009, 12:45:15 PM

Quote from: Destructor on April 16, 2009, 06:26:14 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on April 16, 2009, 03:30:08 PM

Quote from: kadnod on April 16, 2009, 03:27:11 PM

If the cartoony Wii version looked like the old Real Ghostbusters cartoon, it would have filled me with old-nerd glee.   
The realistic look in the 360 and PS3 versions has filled me with old-nerd glee.

Totally the same here. I loved the classic movie, and it's about time we get a proper videogame based upon the movie.

we already have had a proper video game on ghostbusters.!!!!..can't you remember!!

and Myto...what do you mean you are not a big fan of Ghostbusters????...everyone loves Ghostbusters!!
12715  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: March 2009 NPD Sales on: April 17, 2009, 01:47:57 AM
this is U.S only right?

Resident Evil 5 nearly 1 million on the 360 in the U.S is damn impressive(then another half mil on the PS3..worldwide i would guess over 2 mill in all)

i think SONY have just announced that Killzone 2 has sold 1 million worldwide now as well

halo wars demo was its good to see it doing was actually released a week before the U.S everywhere else,March 3rd for U.S according to Wiki,so it may of got nearer to 1 million,especially now half way through April
12716  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBLA GOTY Award Winners on: April 17, 2009, 01:39:20 AM
Best Graphics
Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix

Best Innovation

Best Remake
Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix

Best Single-Player Game
Portal™: Still Alive

Best Versus Mode
Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix

i think they are the ones i voted for,i guessed at Portal because i only played the Orange box version and not the XBLA version and thought it was the better one in the list
12717  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Should I finish Final Fantasy 12? on: April 17, 2009, 01:36:20 AM

Quote from: Gratch on April 17, 2009, 01:22:18 AM

Quote from: metallicorphan on April 17, 2009, 12:38:06 AM

Penelo and Ashe along with Vaan were the most boring characters in a FF game

I still find it strange that Square chose to market Vaan as the main character for FF XII. 

its because he was young and had Blonde hair icon_wink
12718  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: DON'T... watch Nic Cage movies on: April 17, 2009, 12:53:41 AM
the last Nicolas Cage film i really liked was The Rock(didn't The Rock also have Michael Biehn in it as well?)..ever since then,can't really get into anything he is in,especially now,all i do is stare at his bunny teeth..what was he thinking when he had them done?..makes me think of Matt Dillon in There's something about mary

liked him best in his earlier Raising Arizona,Peggy Sue Got Married..and that Trapped in Paradise i liked

i also liked Leaving Las Vegas,but that was because of the drop dead gorgeous Elizabeth Shue icon_wink

hey,as he is part of the Coppola Clan,don't forget he was Executive Producer on the Godfather Part 3 Tongue

hated Face/off i thought it was terrible,but everyone i know says its great disgust
12719  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Speculating on track listing for Beatles: Rock Band on: April 17, 2009, 12:42:57 AM

Quote from: th'FOOL on April 16, 2009, 07:34:02 PM

Actually, there's a rumor that multiple mics can be used for harmonizing...   thumbsup


that has to be in there if thats true,LOL
12720  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Should I finish Final Fantasy 12? on: April 17, 2009, 12:38:06 AM
Final Fantasy 12 was the easiest FF for me...and that was because the fight system was so addictive and well,easy
the graphics were great
the towns were great

however,the story was very boring,the ending was so-so...Vaan may as well of been killed in the first 30 minutes and it would of made him more interesting...the only characters i liked was Bunny girl Fran,Basch and Balthier was so-so(a young Roger Moore)

Penelo and Ashe along with Vaan were the most boring characters in a FF game
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