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7281  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (5/28) on: May 28, 2007, 11:45:53 PM
Just a bit off topic -my apologies- but based upon how many people here are saying they're buying Mario Party 8 or Forza 2 this week, I'm predicting that both of these games do in excess of 1/4 million in NA sales before the end of May; maybe even 1/2 million!
7282  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I am amazed that I have 14 Virtual Console games. on: May 28, 2007, 11:16:07 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 28, 2007, 10:39:40 PM

mario rpg(again,i wish!!)

If it's Super Mario RPG you're referring to, it's been reported to be an eventual VC release for both NA and Europe by a number of sources. I mostly go by vc-reviews.com which I've found to be a credible source for VC info; good reviews too.  icon_wink

BTW: vc-reviews doesn't just pull their release list out of their asses hats, here's their official statement:
Quote
These are all the games that are coming to the Virtual Console soon. They are not just ones we made up from wishful thinking; they are either confirmed or at least credible rumours.
7283  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 28, 2007, 09:51:36 PM
BUMP

Kicked this to the top in anticipation of the start of the final series tonight. Hell...this thread was almost falling off the front page. Is hockey that dead to everyone? paranoid

Anyhow... GO SENS GO!!!
7284  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I am amazed that I have 14 Virtual Console games. on: May 28, 2007, 06:03:42 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 28, 2007, 05:43:57 PM

28 May - Actraiser - Super Nintendo
28 May - Kid Chameleon - Sega Megadrive
28 May - JJ & Jeff - TurboGrafx-16

Thanks Purge.

Not a very good VC week unfortunately, especially coming on the heels of last weeks knockout releases.  I've been told to avoid JJ & Jeff at all costs and that Kid Chameleon had very bleh graphics even for it's time and so-so gameplay.
Actraiser however makes up for the other 2 and it's a game I'm very much looking forward to; coworker said it was extreme eye candy back in the day. I'm just not sure I'll buy it instead of The Secret of the Mystical Ninja.
7285  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (5/28) on: May 28, 2007, 05:32:28 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on May 28, 2007, 02:33:36 PM

Didn't realize Mario Party was coming out this week.  Gonna have to find some piggy banks to bust open to get that as well.

Same here, I'd completely forgotten about it. I traded in Mario Party 4 some time ago and promised my kids I'd buy them a newer Mario Party. My kids are going to be thrilled about this on Friday. Thankfully pay days on Thursday. smile
7286  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I am amazed that I have 14 Virtual Console games. on: May 28, 2007, 05:25:31 PM
I have 9 VC games and yes the only game I regret buying is also Dungeon Explorer, but for $6 I not crying. I've been very surprised at the quality and overall fun factor of the games I've bought. I've also been surprised at how difficult many of them are. I didn't personally own any of the 16 bit systems so most VC games are new to me. In fact other than Super Mario 64, Star Fox 64  and Donkey Kong Country all are 1st time experiences. Here's the games I own:

Donkey Kong Country
Super Mario 64
Super Mario World
Gunstar Heroes
Ninja Spirit
Star Fox 64
Bomberman 93
Toe Jam and Earl
Dungeon Explorer

I'm planning on buying Streets of Rage 2 and Secret of the Mystical Ninja within the next 2 weeks.

BTW: Does anyone know what this weeks VC game release are?
7287  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Colin McRae: DiRT [360/PS3/PC] demo on: May 27, 2007, 04:42:28 PM
I haven't raced a Colin McRae game since CMR2, so this holds some interest for me. I don't have a 360 or PS3, so I'd have to get this for the PC. I prefer realistic rally racing simulation games for the PC; Rally Trophy being my favorite.
I'm wondering if this game, like some other middle of the road racing games before it, will be open enough for the mod community to tweak it's realism. I remember the good work that was done back in the day for Mobil 1 Rally. If it can't be tweaked, this might be a game I pick up when I eventually get my 360.
7288  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Big Screen Theatre flicks on: May 25, 2007, 06:32:27 PM
I'd love to see the 60's JamesBond films on the big screen. I've been watching the new, enhanced MGM re-release of these films on DVD and I've been knocked out by the quality. Seeing a restored and enhanced Goldfinger, Thunderball or From Russia with Love in 70 mm would be awesome!
7289  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy VII is 10 years old - replay anyone? on: May 25, 2007, 06:14:02 PM

Quote from: Calvin on May 25, 2007, 02:56:14 PM

i have the pc version but it just looks like shit.

Hmm...sounds like you played it on a PC that didn't have a Voodoo video card. I've seen it on the PS1 and it definitely looks better on my legacy gaming rig with it's Voodoo5.
7290  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: My first flight!! on: May 24, 2007, 08:06:24 PM
I mistook this as your 1st flight where you're the person behind the flight yoke.

Anyhow...welcome to the safest mode of transport in existence. I have to fly frequently for business, but I love being airborn so no complaints here. Chicago's a great city and O'Hare's a big airport, so leave yourself some time to get around and explore. smile
7291  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Thinking of selling my 360..Good price? on: May 24, 2007, 07:40:51 PM

Quote from: Arclight on May 24, 2007, 06:40:58 PM

I like story driven RPG's...
I like a well done adventure game.
I like well done actiony RPG games...
Flight Sim
Flight sim combat
I love MMORPG's...........
umm...
Can't think of anymore right now....

You're right about these game types being in very short supply on the 360 and I doubt we'll ever see many true flight sims on it. Something to be aware of however, in the 2nd 1/2 of the 360's life cycle, RPG, adventure and some MMORPG's will likely start to appear just as they did for the XBox. That being said, the 1/2 point of the life cycle doesn't start until Nov. 15th.

I also favour the game types you've listed although I can also enjoy a good shooter, hockey and soccer game. I'm holding off on buying my 360 until the Fall when as least some good story-based RPGs' will be releasing. There's also the possibility of the new, better quality 65nmn chip SKU's arriving by then.
7292  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dark Messiah of Might & Magic: Worth $10? on: May 24, 2007, 05:43:52 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 24, 2007, 05:35:32 PM

Krono... when you get tired of it, I'll buy it from you. It's not the picking it up that's the problem, it's the unexpected outlaying of cash for home repairs. frown


Purge,

NP I hear you. I'd be more than willing to sell you my copy when I'm finished with it. I'll PM you when I'm near completion. smile
7293  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dark Messiah of Might & Magic: Worth $10? on: May 24, 2007, 05:33:37 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 24, 2007, 12:31:15 PM

I didn't. Unexpected plumbing issues where the bathroom sink is a trainwreck. frown

I checked the futureshop website and the deals still on, so you can still pick up a copy today. Originally the listing on the website said the instant rebate ends today (May 24th), but I can't see any date restriction now. That being said, the copy I picked up was the last copy at 1 of the biggest futureshops in my city.  paranoid
7294  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dark Messiah of Might & Magic: Worth $10? on: May 24, 2007, 04:34:30 AM
Got my copy today at Futureshop for $10. Many thanks for all the feedback on this.
7295  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy VII is 10 years old - replay anyone? on: May 24, 2007, 04:25:52 AM
Just amazing it's been 10 years and we still haven't got FF XVII ! What's wrong with that Squeenix sequels assembly line; they've really been slipping. smile
On a serious note...I only played the PC version, despite the bugs it was still a great game.
7296  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 23, 2007, 09:24:20 PM

Quote from: Kratz on May 23, 2007, 06:12:08 AM

Gimme a fuckin' break.

Here you go...C-R-A-C-K!!!...as in the collective sound of the Ducks' breaking their sticks over Chelios' head!  icon_twisted
7297  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dark Messiah of Might & Magic: Worth $10? on: May 23, 2007, 07:48:50 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 23, 2007, 07:26:34 PM

I'll give ya 10CDN for it, gratch! biggrin

Purge,

You can buy it for that price online until tomorrow at futureshop.ca.
I probably should have posted this in the Deals forum,  but the promo is for just a few days. Also available in store for that price.
7298  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PSP] Console to get VoIP chat on: May 23, 2007, 01:32:34 PM

Quote from: Destructor on May 23, 2007, 01:16:08 PM

Will this be the feature that brings the PSP to sales levels like the DS? I highly doubt it, but it's a neat feature in of itself. Oddly enough, via the BBC News:

Quote
Owners of Sony's PlayStation Portable (PSP) handheld console will soon be able to make voice and video calls over a wireless internet connection.

Using a soon-to be-released camera and microphone, gamers will be able to call other PSP owners and some BT phones. The software has been developed by BT and will eventually allow PSP users to call PCs, fixed lines and mobiles.

Initially the service will only be available in the UK and will only work on home or BT wireless hotspots. Currently, there are around 2,000 of these situated in airports, railway stations, hotels and fast food restaurants.

Kinda cool, no? I don't see myself ever using it though.

I really like the idea. It got me thinking; with a built in microphone and WiFi there's no reason this couldn't be done with the DS as well.
Kudos to Sony, or the 3rd party, for coming up with this for the PSP.
7299  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 23, 2007, 03:58:17 AM
What a cheap, bullshit move by Chelios on Moen to sleaze out a penalty! Between him and Bertuzzi I have plenty enough reason to hate the Wings; good riddance!
If ever there was a player that deserved a Lifetime ban for unsportsman like conduct, Chelios fits the bill. God I hope this is his last season.

I hope the Ducks fuck up in the 3rd period of their games against the Sens the way they did tonight. Keep doing that Ducks and the Sens will bring the cup home!

GO SENS GO!!!
7300  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NHL Playoff Talk on: May 23, 2007, 02:53:53 AM

Quote from: ScubaV on May 22, 2007, 08:11:41 PM


Also, what's with all the hate? What did Detroit do to you?

Having bought a few Stanley Cups before the salary cap, they deserve all the hate they get.

Tonight Hasek looks like a suffocating fish out of water the way he's flopping around on the ice. Great to see him get burned for his antics. Can't deny he's got some good net-minding moves but he's been a fluke for too long.
7301  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Dark Messiah of Might & Magic: Worth $10? on: May 22, 2007, 09:38:37 PM
I know that Dark Messiah of Might and Magic only received luke warm reviews. If I recall correctly much of the negative was that the game out of the box was quite bugged.

My question is: has the game been patched to the point where it's now playable and is it worth $10 CDN ($9 US)?
7302  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] 80GB Model Confirmed! on: May 22, 2007, 01:30:53 PM
Hey wait a minute...I see the marketing logic, it's 2 PS3's for the price of 1!
PS3 60GB + PS3 20GB = PS3 80GB. Good one Sony.  finger
7303  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii] VC Info for 5/21 on: May 22, 2007, 01:15:33 PM
Whoah! This is is a very strong VC release week. I never played SofR2, but many of my co-workers have said this is probably the best beat 'm' up ever released. And DKC2; nuff said. I'm IN for both of these.
7304  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo's Third Quarter Release list - Metroid in August on: May 22, 2007, 12:52:14 PM

Quote from: Tebunker on May 22, 2007, 03:08:37 AM

I just noticed that there are several third party titles missing from that list, like Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition (may be a June release), Manhunt 2, Alien Syndrome, and Dewey's Adventure. So I wonder why Nintendo even bothered publishing it? I was reading elsewhere that Nintendo didn't put any M rated titles on the list, interesting no? I dunno, doesn't seem to make any sense to publish a half done release list.

There's definitely some games missing from this list. MP3 and BW2 are day 1 purchses for me. Strangely Space Tycoon also gets my interest, although I know nothing about it.
Lot's of ds titles to like. smile
7305  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Best/Worst Voice Acting on: May 22, 2007, 12:28:42 PM

Quote from: Zarkon on May 21, 2007, 09:53:45 AM

Bad voice acting:  Resident Evil (the original)

Ditto! So bad it's funny. The voice acting in any of the Dynasty or Samurai legends games as the closest runner up for worst.
7306  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii - Choose me a game for my Birthday on: May 20, 2007, 03:38:06 PM

Quote from: Tals on May 20, 2007, 03:19:31 PM

OK the winner, coming out of nowhere and destroying the opposition - well not really but the one which appealed and won was SSX Blur, i'm a skier myself so the thought of Skiing/boarding on the Wii appealed. Only played a few hours so far but I think I will really like this one. I'll post impressions properly in the sports area once i've played it properly. For once the graphics arn't bad as well!!

Tals

Good choice it's a very good game, in fact I'm also playing it today. slywink thumbsup
7307  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 08:03:11 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on May 18, 2007, 03:46:10 PM

Quote from: Jumangi on May 18, 2007, 03:19:14 PM

So the question of can the market support three current-gen systems is still up for debate it seems. 

Actually, I think the more relevent question is not whether the market can support 3 game system but whether the market can support any game system that costs $400+ dollars.

I agree, the price is the issue and a big factor in the PS3 and 360's sales numbers slipping. Even the last console gen market -roughly 140 million- was easily big enough to support 3 consoles. If you distribute those numbers evenly you've get about 47 million per console. Most manufacturers start turning profit by at least the 20 millionth unit; was even true for the expensive to build XBox.
7308  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 07:45:50 PM
I refuse to get excited about Wii sales numbers until I can use my Wiimote as a virtual hockey stick to cross check Todd Bertuzzi's virtual head through virtual plexi glass.  icon_twisted
7309  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Sigil is consumed by SoE (Vanguard) on: May 18, 2007, 09:49:19 AM

Quote from: Destructor on May 18, 2007, 02:35:38 AM

And now there's an interview with Brad McQuaid up. It's not as 'doom and gloom' as the other ones, but it's still an interesting read. One thing that caught my eye:

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f13.net: Ok, here's a loaded one. A number of people have said there was one QA member up through at least beta 3 or 4. How did an MMOG survive with one person dedicated to quality assurance.

Brad McQuaid: The original plan was to use Microsoft's vast testing facility. We were to keep a small testing team at Sigil -

f13.net: But one?!

Brad McQuaid:: No. A small team that was very close to the dev team and use the massive facility at Microsoft. When that relationship went south and we were scrambling for money, we simply did not have the room to grow.

Go take a read if you're interested.

I'm sorry but this is just complete unadulterated bullshit! Just about everyone in the MS sphere of influence knows about the McCarthy dev model. This model recommends a ratio of 2 QA per 1 developer. Of course very few dev teams achieve this and often settle for a 1:1 to relationship. But for complete freaking sake Mr. Quaid, 1 person for all of QA!  And at most a lick and promise from MS that you'd get external QA resources!! What total BS! It's just plain knowledge that you never rely on external QA resources.

[Edited] Toned down a bit of the language and removed some content. This whole situation at Sigil has got me worked up to the point where I've got to be careful how I even respond in this thread.
7310  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New PS3 RPG - Folklore (coming out this Fall!) on: May 18, 2007, 09:03:07 AM
When this releases there'll be a spike in Japan PS3 sales; mark my words.
7311  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 08:43:56 AM

Quote from: Brendan on May 18, 2007, 07:40:16 AM

Quote from: Ridah on May 18, 2007, 07:11:20 AM

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Sony's already started to make the necessary changes and I'm sure Mr. Moore can be jetisoned from the 360 ship as easily as Krazy Ken was tossed from the good ship Playstation.

Why would MS want to get rid of Moore? That guy is awesome, I've always perceived him as being passionate about his job.

Additionally, all of the actual press on Kutaragi was that the guy hung on for years too long because of his political savvy.  They were only able to get rid of him after he'd killed the flagship product, not beforehand.

All of the game console manufacturers IMHO struggle with their change management models. Their markets change so fast that simple mistakes can end up being large blunders. They generally have a 5 year window to make effective and strategic decisions and god forbid if they don't. Even the major personalities we come to criticise and despise all have their pluses. I'm critical of many of these game industry icons, but I still appreciate what they've contributed. When we look back 10, 20, or 30 year from now I'd bet we appreciate the following:

  • Yamauchi (Nintendo): Always realized that they were 1st and foremost a gaming company; they did in fact start out in post WWII war Japan as a game card manufacturer. Yamauchi realized that the software (games) was a continuation of this tradition and as a result they never failed to turn profit with their games under his direction; this ethic continues in Nintendo to this day. He also gave Miyamoto all the rope he wanted...and shigeru responded by never hanging himself once.

  • Kutaragi (Sony): Realized very early that optical media was the way to go and was he ever freaking right. The rest is legend, but his insistence on this led to Sony singlehandedly stealing just about every significant game dev from the Nintendo camp,  which at the time still insisted that the memory cartridge medium was the way to go.

  • Moore: (Sega/Microsoft): Realized the importance of online play and online communities. He had visions about players seamlessly playing and communicating online. I believe Moore even had some hand in Team Sonics creation of the 1st ever online RPG; Phantasy Star Online. Of course his influence in the creation of Xbox Live is well known and appreciated by all of us.

Even though these individuals contributed so much, they all reached a point where they were more of a detriment than an asset to their respective companies. I'm afraid Moore is reached this point now with Microsoft.
7312  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 07:25:41 AM

Quote from: Ridah on May 18, 2007, 07:11:20 AM

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Sony's already started to make the necessary changes and I'm sure Mr. Moore can be jetisoned from the 360 ship as easily as Krazy Ken was tossed from the good ship Playstation.

Why would MS want to get rid of Moore? That guy is awesome, I've always perceived him as being passionate about his job.

Well...how about because of late he's had an excellent knack of putting his foot in his mouth shoving his foot down his throat. And oh yeah his impeccable track record; -cough- Sega -cough-! And how much do you want to bet that his bunglings and screw ups led to the delays in 65nm chip manufacturing. I'm not saying he's the only person that should go, but he certainly wouldn't be a bad start.
7313  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo and Bungie take shots at eachother on: May 18, 2007, 07:01:12 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 18, 2007, 06:12:29 AM

Quote from: kronovan on May 18, 2007, 04:44:52 AM

Pretty good??...just... pretty good?? Come on, both Myth's were awesome games! Myth 1 is even in the Gaming Hall of Fame; AAA quality all the way!

I'm not a big RTS fan so I can only say pretty good.  I would love to see an RPG set in that world though.

Ceekay, damn...that's an excellent idea. I could really see it working as an MMORPG that featured Realm Vs Realm warfare. Dorfs wielding explosive Molotov cocktails FTW!!! smile thumbsup

Now back on topic... I really wish AAA quality game dev's like this didn't ever exchange blows or weren't drawn into comparison battles. As I've said on other websites in the past, it's like comparing the ripest apple with the ripest orange; both are so damn sweet there's really no point.
7314  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 06:47:19 AM

Quote from: Destructor on May 18, 2007, 05:59:21 AM

And I think I found Sony's response:

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According to the latest NPD data, SCEA generated total sales of $271 million in the month of April, buoyed in part by the addition of the PS3 platform, which sold a total of 82K units for the month, as well as the strong performance of the PSP at retail, which saw a 13% year-on-year increase for the month of April, selling 183K units.  The price of the PSP Core system was dropped from $199 to $169 in early April, which has received very positive retailer and consumer response.  PS2 also continued to be a strong performer during the month with unit sales of 194K.

Man...they're not even trying to spin the numbers anymore. frown

So, let me ask something out of left field - what if Nintendo just folded last generation? Imagine if there was no Wii at all. Would the gaming population purchase more or less overall consoles? In other words - would people have bought a 360/PS3 because it was the only thing on the block? Or would the price points (still) be keeping people away?

The rate of increase wouldn't be as high as it's become obvious that Nintendo's bringing in customers that likely didn't own any console last gen. But even without Nintendo the market would still be growing as it has every console gen since the crash of the early 80's. MS and Sony would both have greater numbers respectively but there's no doubt in my mind that Microsoft would still be ahead and they would be maintaining the lead. The real difference would be in Japan where Sony would have an exclusive market and sown up deals with most Japanese dev's. With many Japanese exclusive it's likely Sony would have started to pull even at the end of this console gen.
But we haven't seen a 2 console gen where a 3rd party didn't wade in to the fray. If the Big 'N' had bowed out I wouldn't have been surprised at all to see Sega or a previous player enter the market; maybe even a new player.
7315  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 06:19:31 AM

Quote from: gellar on May 18, 2007, 05:43:56 AM

Quote from: ATB on May 18, 2007, 03:06:55 AM

HOwever, the 360 numbers are a shock to me. So few sold.  Then, by way of comparison, the PS3 selling less than half of that number?  eek

The incompetence of both companies really makes me wonder about the future of our little hobby.  With this many morons and a-holes running the show, how long can it really sustain itself?

I guess we'll always have Nintendo slywink

gellar

Well if Nintendo's any indication they'll both bounce back. Don't forget that Yamauchi and gang had Big 'N' on it's knees and almost in it's dead throws as recent as 5 years ago. Stocks were plummeting and everyone was calling for them to go 3rd party; it's amazing what a change in leadership can do. Sony's already started to make the necessary changes and I'm sure Mr. Moore can be jetisoned from the 360 ship as easily as Krazy Ken was tossed from the good ship Playstation.
7316  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 05:45:33 AM

Quote from: Ridah on May 18, 2007, 04:52:17 AM

A $50 price drop for the 360 would be perfect for MS this holiday season to battle the Wii, along with the insane amount of high-profile titles.

I'm afraid $50 by the Holiday isn't quite going to cut it. It remains to be be seen how much Mass Effect, Halo 3 and GTA will spike sales but I'd think - $75 US and - $100 CDN are more in line. And they'll need to do it months before the festive season; it really should be happening now.
7317  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Looking for Some VC Game Recomendations on: May 18, 2007, 05:01:44 AM
Tebunker,

Many thanks for the feeback. I just realized I currently have 400 VC points so if I get 1000 more I'll have just enough for a SNES and a TG16 game. I wasn't considering TG16 games, but your suggestion was timely and just the ticket.
7318  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo and Bungie take shots at eachother on: May 18, 2007, 04:44:52 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 18, 2007, 03:22:50 AM

Quote from: wonton on May 18, 2007, 02:53:41 AM

I dunno, I don't see what the big deal is.  They're both competent developers, and I don't doubt that Mya could make a fun shooter, and I'm sure the folks at Bungie could expand their game making horizons outside of FPS.

they did do the first 2 Myth games, which were pretty good.

Pretty good??...just... pretty good?? Come on, both Myth's were awesome games! Myth 1 is even in the Gaming Hall of Fame; AAA quality all the way!
7319  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 03:26:07 AM

Quote from: Destructor on May 18, 2007, 02:25:11 AM

Oh, and Microsoft? You need a price drop on your console NOW. Do NOT wait any longer - the fact that you got beaten by both the PS2 and PSP is just sad.

Yeah way to be MS, good thing you didn't start production of the 65nm chips in Jan as originally planned and waited until this month. After all you wouldn't want to be delivering lower cost 360's right about now and risk leaving the lofty heights of PS3 elite-dom so soon.

And great job introducing the Elite when the majority of consumers have made it crystal clear they want lower cost gaming systems.

Oh and very good job Mr. Moore belittling your manufacturing quality issues. Your verbal spin doctoring was superb; would have even made Krazy Ken blush.

Job well done finger
7320  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: April NPD numbers... on: May 18, 2007, 01:38:03 AM

Quote from: Calvin on May 18, 2007, 01:23:52 AM

Nintendo, wtf? We will see if they can keep this kind of sales up in the face of the onslaught of "next-gen" gaming (this is in regards to the Wii, the DSLite is just unstoppable)

Interesting enough, people said the same thing about the DS vs PSP battle up until around the release of the Lite. And if you look at their system specs you couldn't help but arrive at the conclusion that the PSP is more of a next-gen handheld. Hell the PSP even has a larger library of quality games than the DS, yet the DS continues to outsell it at more than a 2:1 ratio. WTF indeed.
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