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1841  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Books Read in 2009 on: August 19, 2009, 05:21:42 PM
Post deleted due to goofy Google image handling  icon_frown
1842  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 confirmed! on: August 17, 2009, 08:20:17 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 17, 2009, 03:37:57 PM

Quote from: skystride on August 17, 2009, 03:33:11 PM

Any idea if it still spawns infinite enemies on you until you hit the trigger point?

not according to this.  of course if it's wrong you can blame jz icon_biggrin

I stand by my quote. Or rather I've placed bettys near it and am hanging back to watch the fun.
1843  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Books Read in 2009 on: August 17, 2009, 08:17:45 PM
Latest I've read since my last update a few posts up. Links are to LibraryThing entries for the books:

"What If? Military Historians Imagine What Might Have Been" edited by Robert Cowley - Gave up on this after a few of it's essays. A mixed bag of styles and content. The hoped for intriguing possibilities are overwhelmed by a lot of repetitive preambles, examinations and ruminations. Not recommended.

"The Fields of Bamboo" by SLA Marshall - Although Marshall's veracity as a military historian has been called into question, he does know how to tell an interesting story. This book covers three related operations in Vietnam. The story telling is down at the grunt level. He does criticize some of the command decisions, but doesn't wield an axe about it. The narrative is detailed about what was happening down at the level of the individuals, but he does tie back to the overall management of the operations as well. He has an eye for the ground as well (he surveyed the battle sites only days after) and thankfully stays away from a lot of contrived conversations.

“Leviathan: The History of Whaling in America” by Eric Jay Dolin - A very good book, covering from the very start in the early seventeenth century when beached whales were the attraction, through the golden age in the mid-1800s and up through the early twentieth century. Anecdotes, analysis and good narrative.

"Terry Jones' Medieval Lives" by Terry Jones & Alan Ereira - This book was released to accompany the BBC series, although the book is more than just the transcript of the series. Nothing too heavy, just some interesting tidbits and some revisionist looks at medieval times in England. Not many laughs either, but that really doesn't detract from the book.

"The Making of an African Legend: The Biafra Story" by Frederick Forsyth - This book was written during the Nigerian Civil War in the later 1960s, although Forsyth (who is very sympathetic to the Biafran cause) makes no bones about how it was really a case of the Biafrans being forced to attempt to be independent and then be invaded by the other tribes that composed Nigeria. The book is mostly composed of discussions of the political and other events that led up to the war, and the shameful behavior of Britain and other nations in their failure to prevent the resulting genocide. The book is rather hard to read as Forsyth is not trying to entertain, but to inform. Not recommended unless you need to get more information on this conflict.

"San Francisco's Cable Cars" by Joyce Jansen - A rather lightweight book that really more about the birth and growth of San Francisco than about the cable cars. Still, there's a goodly amount of info and lots of photos. Recommended if you have an interest in the subject.
1844  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 360 price drop looks imminent on: August 17, 2009, 03:02:40 PM
I have an old Xenon refurbed unit, plus two Xenons also way past guarantees in storage, so no new Jasper for me. Unless of course I get 3X RRoD'ed. What are the odds of that happening slywink?
1845  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/17) on: August 17, 2009, 02:54:38 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 17, 2009, 02:19:12 PM

I can't give a full review till Tuesday, but BUY WOLFENSTEIN.   It's very very good.  Ok, shutting up now.
I can't commit to this survey until the Oracle has spoken  slywink
1846  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Red Faction: Guerrilla Impressions on: August 15, 2009, 11:25:51 PM

Quote from: Razgon on August 15, 2009, 09:39:57 PM

Does the new downloadble content contain spoilers about the main game's campaign?
Not about the story. You do get access (eventually) to weapons that you unlock in the main campaign, but since you also see them in the multiplayer they aren't really a surprise.

I got in about an hour of the DLC. It's somewhat similar to the main campaign's way of capturing a sector. It's set on a brand new map, and the size is larger than any one sector of the main game. Three main missions, one unlocked at the start, the others unlocked as you lower the EDF's control of the sector, just like before. There are a bunch of side missions; one that stands out is a hostage rescue where the hostages aren't all in the same location. The demolition missions are TOUGH. I've done four but there are another four where I am just clueless. I haven't counted how many total there are.

There are differences.There's no salvage to collect; you unlock advanced weapons via completing the demo missions. You don't have to worry about Morale, since there are no civilians and your fellow Marauders are happy to sacrifice themselves for the cause. There are some neat new structures begging for your destructive attention, including a bunch of structures stuck precariously on steep hillsides.

Overall I'd say it's worth it if you like the gameplay of the original single player game. I might quibble about the 800 point price, but I know they have to make their money. Certainly compared to some other 800 point DLC, this one has some real content.
1847  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Red Faction: Guerrilla Impressions on: August 15, 2009, 08:17:27 PM
Couldn't resist the temptation, downloading now.
1848  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Red Faction: Guerrilla Impressions on: August 13, 2009, 04:50:17 PM
Red Faction: Guerrilla - Demons of the Badlands Game Add-on is now available.

Content: Red Faction: Guerrilla - Demons of the Badlands
Price: 800 Microsoft Points
Availability: Not available in Japan
Dash Text: [ESRB: M (Mature) BLOOD,STRONG LANGUAGE,VIOLENCE] Break free and experience the all new single player game in this prequel chapter of the Red Faction universe. Mariner Valley, the once peaceful home of the Marauder people, has been torched and defiled by the EDF. The Marauders demand vengeance and Samanya leads the revolt. Set several years before the arrival of Alec Mason on Mars, take control of Samanya to explore the Mariner Valley outside of Tharsis. Exact your revenge with 7 all new weapons including the Spiker machine gun and Marauder Missilepod, and 3 new vehicles including the Punisher walker. Perfect your guerrilla tactics with 11 new actions including raids and demolitions. Show off your skills with 10 new unlockable achievements. Take control and lead the Marauder revolution. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see

Seven new weapons, but I never used all the ones from the base game. Eleven new actions sound interesting. Might have to wait on reviews to see how deep the content goes.
1849  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / DiRT 2 discussions right in here! on: August 12, 2009, 04:16:44 PM
Interview with the design manager on Boomtown. I like this quote:

A lot of people, though fans of the first DiRT, had reservations about how the cars handled – specifically how gripped to the road they felt. Has this been changed or altered in DiRT 2?

We've really gone totally back to basics with that and rebuilt our physics system so it's much more, dare I say it, a simulation, although that's generally a bad word around our studio, but it's much more realistic. In particular, what we've done is work on the weight of the cars; the way weight transfers around them, that's simulated much more realistically. The tire physics; the tire modeling, that's all been completely rewritten. So tires actually have tire pressure and that affects the way that they move and the car handles. A tire can completely deflate, and all of that means that the cars have a weightier feel and are much more predictable as a result. So, symptoms you're reporting about DiRT are things we've heard a lot about from people, and I think they're fairly accurate, and we knew that was one thing we had to go back to basics on and fix for DiRT 2, and we've done that, and you can be the judge.
1850  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Operation Flashpoint:Dragon Rising..anyone in? on: August 12, 2009, 04:12:27 PM
Good interview with the game producer on Rock, Paper, Shotgun.
1851  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CoD: WaW Map Pack 3 on: August 12, 2009, 11:23:51 AM
After getting some more play time in on the maps (in hardcore TDM mode) I have to say that I like them even more than at first play.

Breach is actually more fun the more you play it. You can try it as a sniper with bettys, since there are a lot of vantage points. However, you can go from end to end on the map with just the barest of exposure to snipers, so you can hunt down bad guy snipers (be sure to have bomb squad!). Some clever folks have hidden in the central fountain and stature enclosures, behind cars or in the central column gate structure. There are just a lot of options of how to play.

On Revolution I thought the central building was a deathtrap and studiously avoided it, yet I see folks are using it to avoid being nailed on the periphery paths. One time I was playing against a team of six that consistently moved to and stayed in the central building, covering the entrances and picking off folks trying to snipe from the outer building windows. And some strange folks stay outside of all buildings, just hiding behind cars or crates or just building corners, because no one suspects people would do that. Cool.

Battery isn't just a cool looking map, it's also really convoluted in the paths and the hide spots. Even after dozens of matches on there I still get nailed by guys perched in some out of the way spot I didn't even know existed. It's also one of the few maps where I find both my rifle grenade and my flamethrower loadouts useful. The RGs are good because there are a number of spots, like the gun turrets, where enemies congregate waiting to move across open territory. Small rooms like that are made for RGs, and thankfully there are few small windows to have to aim through. The flame thrower is useful because a good part of the map is composed of short, twisting corridors, and the FT is also good against dogs as well.

1852  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So did you buy anything for your avatar? on: August 12, 2009, 11:08:41 AM
Gloves for 40 points, the cheapest thing I could find, just to see how the process worked. Otherwise not really all that interesting.
1853  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Operation Flashpoint:Dragon Rising..anyone in? on: August 12, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
You have me at "hardcore mode"  slywink. I liked the game on the PC years ago. Having it on the 360 sounds like a winner to me.
1854  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/10) on: August 11, 2009, 03:52:00 PM
Although it's a PC title, since this is not a "What console games are you buying this week?" thread, I'll mention Joint Operations: Complete Collection. I played the hell out of the original game and it's expansion. True 64 player matches, huge maps, decent lack of lag. What caused me to give up on it was the declining number of players and the huge increase of cheaters, to the point that every match seemed to be infested with hackers.

I might have to consider getting the new Joint Operations: Complete Collection if it seems that a number of folks do jump aboard. I'm not thrilled that it's going to be a monthly payment, but since it starts off with ninety days free, that should be enough time to see if it's worth continuing.
1855  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 3 Discussion on: August 08, 2009, 02:50:08 PM
The rewind feature is a big seller for me. In the single player races in Forza 2 it would drive (hah!) me nuts after a long race to screw up the last corner and have to do it all over again. Fine, some folks are ultra realists and say this is part of racing, but I don't have the time to do this. Giving me a rewind option let's me play the game my way, which is what they said they are trying to achieve.

By the way, this is why I gave up on Fuel. I loved it at first, but it became a grind where I was required to win dozens of races at the hardest level in order to unlock the last few zones. No thanks.
1856  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Batman : Arkham Asylum on: August 07, 2009, 08:50:17 PM
I played the demo; pretty sweet. Lots of good eye candy in the asylum. Controls seem to work well. Apparently it uses a checkpoint save system. That shouldn't be too bad as long as the save points aren't too far apart.
1857  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 3 Discussion on: August 07, 2009, 08:48:08 PM

Quote from: kronovan on August 06, 2009, 05:05:41 PM

I must admit, the vehicles and scenerey look very good. Is that cockpit shot of a parked car? Please tell me they've modeled the drivers arms and gloves.

Yes, driver's arms and gloves are in the game. I just saw this on the Forza 3 E3 video report on XBL.
1858  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Playlist - 08/07/09 on: August 07, 2009, 07:30:28 PM
CoDWaW map pack 3. It's a double EX weekend, although I won't be availing myself of that.
1859  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Batman : Arkham Asylum on: August 07, 2009, 07:05:27 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 07, 2009, 06:41:41 PM

I don't think they were expecting Ledger to steal the show as much as he did.  still, I think jztemple is off his rocker  icon_wink

Naw, they got me a seat belt so I don't fall out!  icon_biggrin
1860  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Batman : Arkham Asylum on: August 07, 2009, 04:44:27 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on August 07, 2009, 02:25:42 PM

I think mSteelers was talking about the BB video game (which I also liked, but it wasn't super-well received).  I don't know what the hell jztemple2 is talking about.  The movie has received nothing but universal praise, as far as I can remember.

Yikes, it was too early in the morning to intelligently reply  icon_frown. I was making my comment about "The Dark Knight" movie, which I did find way too long. I liked the "Batman Begins" movie very much. Sorry for inconveniencing some electrons and forum members by replying to my gaff  Roll Eyes
1861  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CoD: WaW Map Pack 3 on: August 07, 2009, 02:09:53 PM
I like the three new non-Zombie maps  slywink

Breach is a little bit dull. Fairly symmetrical areas on each side of central gateway. Around most of the periphery are various second story locations. Some sniping opportunities and don't stand outside for very long if you want to survive. Still, a decently large map. Sort of like Station but with second story access and no roof. And larger. And better.

Revolution is pretty nice. Buildings surround a central building and there are second story pathways over most of it. Cleverly placed sight lines mean there are few camping spots for snipers that can't be seen from more than one location. Pretty good sized as well.  Center building has few interior walls and is for the brave and foolhardy. Outer buildings are a betty placer's delight  icon_smile

Battery is just excellent. Cleverly non-symmetrical. Main location fort has many non-obvious paths and hide spots. And there are two standing free towers which can only be accessed by open gangways, and are also connected to each other. Add in an amazing amount of eye-candy; there are just so many interesting things to look at, you'll get whacked often while sight-seeing.

Overall I rate this pack as the best of the three. I think Banzai might still be the best map, but Battery is in the top few easily.
1862  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Batman : Arkham Asylum on: August 07, 2009, 01:58:05 PM

Quote from: Razgon on August 07, 2009, 01:55:03 PM

HUH? Was there someone that didnt enjoy Batman begins?? I think all I've seen ranked it up there with IronMan and the likes...

Was about an hour too long. Could have cut the movie off at that point (sorry, don't remember the specific scene) and it would have been better.
1863  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CoD: WaW Map Pack 3 on: August 06, 2009, 04:27:59 PM
Map pack 3 is now available.
1864  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 3 Discussion on: August 06, 2009, 04:25:36 PM

Quote from: Dreamshadow on August 06, 2009, 03:49:31 PM

2,  *droool* Beautiful cockpit shot.  Can't wait to see how the other cars looks.
This is one of the reasons I stuck with Test Drive Unlimited for so long. The cars had great cockpit views and it was fun just to cruise all over Oahu that way.

Oo, oo! I just thought of a great DLC for Forza 3! Give me a download of, say Liberty City icon_wink so I can cruise to my heart's content. Or, honestly even better, GTA San Andreas. OK, the graphics were kind of sucky compared to GTA4, but there's some great cruising to be found there. Or maybe just import Oahu from TDU?
1865  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Books Read in 2009 on: August 05, 2009, 01:14:18 PM
Latest books I've completed so far this year (and date completed):

"The Last Valley" by Martin Windrow 8/5/09 - A history of the First Indochina War, 1946-1954, with a focus on the Battle of Dien Bien Phu. A very, very good book, with lots of maps and extensive notes. The only downer might be that between all the French, Vietnamese and other foreign person and place names it sometimes becomes hard to keep track of things.

"Building The Suez Canal" by S. C. Burchell 7/29/09 - A history of the building of the canal. Doesn't go into any great detail at all, but does have a nice style to the writing. Plenty of excellent illustrations and period photographs.

"Roberts Ridge" by Malcolm MacPherson 7/28/09 - A very detailed retelling of the seventeen hour ordeals of shot down Navy SEAL and US Army Ranger teams during Operation "Anaconda" in Afghanistan. Very much in the style of "Black Hawk Down". Excellent book, very recommended.

“ENIAC” by Scott McCartney 7/26/09 - A history of the first electronic computer and the people involved. The first half concerns the conception, design and building of the first machine. The second half is about the two main inventors and their struggle to maintain their credit for their concept, and then how they went into business trying to sell them. Only the first half is really interesting, the rest dissolves down to discussions of lawsuits and people arguing over who did what.

"Dustoff: The Memoir of an Army Aviator" by Michael J. Novosel 7/24/09 - Exceptional first person tale of a man (wiki link) who entered the Army Air Force in 1940, rose up the ranks as a bomber pilot (but flew pretty much everything), retired, then re-entered the military early in the Vietnam War. Unwilling to return to the Air Force as a desk-bound colonel, he joined the Army as a warrant officer and ended up flying dustoff missions (combat medical evacuations) during two tours. And even after that there was a lot of interesting things he did. A story so amazing that no Hollywood writer would even consider it, yet it's all true. Very highly recommended.

"What Hath God Wrought" by Daniel Walker Howe 7/23/09 - Part of the Oxford History of the United States, covering 1815 to 1848. Very well done, considering not only the time covered but also the wide variety of subjects. Enough detail in each subject area to be interesting without bogging down in too much analysis or anecdotes.

"Death Ground" by Daniel P. Bolger 7/20/09 - A series of chapters covering various infantry-types in the modern US military, highlighting them by describing actions in which they were involved. For instance, parachutists in Panama in 1989, Rangers in Mogadishu in 1994, etc. Each chapter ends with a discussion of the unit structure and composition, which since publication in 2003 is probably out of date, but the stories are interesting.

"The Bullet Catchers" by Tony Geraghty 7/10/09 - Geraghty, a journalist, has written about the British SAS, mercenaries in ancient and modern times, and the British fight against the IRA in Northern Ireland. In this book he relates the history of bodyguards and other security types, from early in Queen Victoria's reign till 1989, the year of publication of the book. Very opinionated and somewhat reactive in his views, never the less a good deal of the book is entertaining and a lot is eye-opening regarding assassins, targets and the poor blokes in-between.

Link to my complete 2009 list below.
1866  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Hearts of Iron III Demo - GT Hosted on: August 04, 2009, 05:45:43 PM
Thanks! Very fast link. It downloaded faster than it's taking to install it!  slywink
1867  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/2) on: August 04, 2009, 05:41:48 PM
Just got the demo and installing it now.
1868  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CoD: WaW Map Pack 3 on: August 04, 2009, 05:23:38 PM

Quote from: jblank on August 04, 2009, 05:21:38 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on August 04, 2009, 03:03:24 PM

Is it out today? I'm so torn.

Pretty sure the map pack is out on Thursday.....or was it Wednesday?

Just checked, it's this Thursday, August 6th. Cool.
1869  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CoD: WaW Map Pack 3 on: August 04, 2009, 04:02:24 PM
I was impressed with the video preview. One medium map and two big maps, all sounding interesting. This is a definite buy for me now. Wonder when it's going to be available, anyone know?
1870  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 impressions thread on: August 04, 2009, 01:01:38 AM
Hey I need some help on "The Pitt". I completed the major quest "Free Labor". Now how the heck do I get back to the Wasteland? I went out the main door and got immediately gunned down. I figure there's got to be a better way, right?
1871  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: CoD: WaW Map Pack 3 on: August 04, 2009, 12:05:29 AM
Video preview of map pack 3 is live now on XBL.
1872  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/2) on: August 03, 2009, 07:13:14 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 03, 2009, 06:26:36 PM

This dating shit is hard.

That's why I quit doing it and got married. So much less pressure  nod
1873  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/2) on: August 03, 2009, 04:34:53 PM
For those who care, I posted this item over on OO, noting that the HOI3 demo will be available tomorrow, and the complete in-game manual is available for downloading right now.
1874  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/2) on: August 03, 2009, 11:01:58 AM
Nothing. I considered getting Fallout 3: Mothership Zeta, but I haven't even finished "The Pitt". I put a couple more hours into it this weekend and realized (sadly) that my F03 fixation is most likely over with  icon_frown. So now it's just waiting till next month's racing games.
1875  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: IL-2 Sturmovik for Xbox and PS3? on: July 31, 2009, 06:29:25 PM

Quote from: Boudreaux on July 31, 2009, 05:52:30 PM

Are Sim settings eventually unlocked in the demo?
Yes, after you successfully complete the first mission. You can step up to Realistic or Sim difficulty in that order. Note that nothing is saved from the demo, so once you quit it, you'll have to go back and successfully complete that first mission again to unlock the other difficulties.
1876  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: IL-2 Sturmovik for Xbox and PS3? on: July 30, 2009, 03:01:08 PM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on July 30, 2009, 01:35:28 PM

Quote from: jztemple2 on July 30, 2009, 11:34:59 AM

Quote from: marcusjm on July 30, 2009, 11:18:15 AM

Just check sensitivity and it should be ok. I find the scenarios a bit easy at the moment.
Thanks, hadn't considered that for the right stick, I'll give it a try. I don't seem to have too much of a problem with the left stick, but then I also am using Kontrolfreek thumbstick extenders.

Ugh, I thought they sounded like a great idea until I bought a pair. Couldn't stand them.  icon_neutral

Huh, surprised at that. You do need to allow yourself a couple of hours to get used to them, but I could tell the difference. I have big hands and with the normal 360 controller I had to bend my thumbs more than was comfortable and got cramps as a result. With the stick extenders I am able to play without discomfort.

I also got the U-shaped add on's, supposedly good for driving, but the stick extenders work fine for driving as well so I stuck with them for all gaming. The extenders of course also increase the stick travel as measured at the thumb/stick interface, so it allows a bit more precise movement of the sticks. This increases my skill from totally inept to relatively hopeless  icon_biggrin
1877  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: We're almost to the Fall Run, what's on you're buy list? on: July 30, 2009, 11:44:11 AM
Dirt 2 (360)
IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey (360) maybe

GTA IV Ballad (360)
Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (360)
Forza 3 (360)

Assassins Creed 2 (360)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PC)

Heist (360)
Saboteur (360)
Battlefield Bad Company 2 (360)

PC purchases are on hold pending purchase of new uber-computer, which is pending Windows 7 release and early bug reports.
1878  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: IL-2 Sturmovik for Xbox and PS3? on: July 30, 2009, 11:34:59 AM

Quote from: marcusjm on July 30, 2009, 11:18:15 AM

Just check sensitivity and it should be ok. I find the scenarios a bit easy at the moment.
Thanks, hadn't considered that for the right stick, I'll give it a try. I don't seem to have too much of a problem with the left stick, but then I also am using Kontrolfreek thumbstick extenders.

My problem with the right stick is that when I click it to go into view mode I don't seem able to avoid accidentally lifting and pressing. That's not really an issue for the rudder but it screws up my throttle. I'm thinking that maybe the best fix for this would be to have the right stick dedicated for view, except if the bumpers are pressed. For instance, holding left bumper and moving the right stick fore and aft would adjust the throttle, while holding right bumper would enable the rudder on the right stick. Holding both bumpers would enable both. Not pressing either bumper leaves the right stick in view mode.

Really, even with the 360 stick, there just aren't enough controls available to do everything. My Saitek X52 stick and throttle units were the cat's meow for flight controls (especially for Falcon 4.0) and if I had continued on that game I was going to get the rudder pedals as well. The Saitek PC/360 combo stick is a decent compromise but still would be lacking for the ultimate simhead.
1879  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: IL-2 Sturmovik for Xbox and PS3? on: July 30, 2009, 10:32:54 AM
I'm underwhelmed with the demo. Controlling the aircraft at levels above Arcade is near impossible with the 360 controller, especially the combination of rudder/throttle/view all on the right stick. The 360 controller might be good for a lot of things, but not for flying. Even in Arcade I keep finding myself screwing up the throttle.

Also I'm a longtime IL-2 player on the PC, but burned out on it a while ago. Unless you really get turned on by all the eye candy, there's just a lot of repetition in the WW2 air combat sims. And with the PC version of IL-2 Sturmovik being both cheaper and far more comprehensive than the anticipated console version, I'm going to pass on this game come September.
1880  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: IL-2 Sturmovik for Xbox and PS3? on: July 29, 2009, 05:11:02 PM

Quote from: skystride on July 29, 2009, 05:01:44 PM

The guy on SimHQ says the Saitek stick is the only flightstick for 360.  Didn't Ace Combat come with a flight stick too?  Or was it HAWX?

I just checked the Gamestop site and the only stick they list is the Saitek stick, so I guess that is the one.

UPDATE: I did see mentioned in the SimHQ thread that the guy did have some difficulties in the tutorial getting the demo to work with the stick. If I remember his words, it was something that even with the stick attached the game still considered it a gamepad. Would like to hear more firsthand about this before I get the stick for IL-2, since it would appear to be the only game I would get it for.
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