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1761  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 30, 2010, 07:44:41 PM
OK, finished the game, through the credits... discussion below contains post-final, final, final mission discussion.

Spoiler for Hiden:
First of all, I was really thrown off by the whole Ranchville series of missions. Scaring off crows, herding cows, not exactly the ending I was expecting after gunning down a zillion Indians followed by Dutch. And then the Army comes to get me, I must be a pretty dangerous dude. OK, after John Marston dies, I'm thinking, what a downer kind of ending. And then we do the whole Jack Marston thing. Now I see what was intended.

 Still, the end missions were kind of a letdown. I expected we'd find out why the government was employing John Marston to do all the hunting and killing. Oh well, I guess Jack getting revenge for his father will have to do.
1762  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 30, 2010, 03:13:33 PM

Quote from: Razgon on May 30, 2010, 12:10:29 PM

Quote from: TiLT on May 30, 2010, 10:38:37 AM

What other part? With the way posts are being edited I can't check any more.

Well, I'm not going to write it again ;-)

I wasn't even half way through the game when I posted, so I certainly didn't give away anything from the end, which btw I still haven't gotten to. I based my comment on what was written in the manual and what Marston says in the first couple of missions. I've finally gotten to Blackwater and I still haven't figured out what the hell the government is up to.
1763  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 30, 2010, 02:21:22 AM

Quote from: naednek on May 30, 2010, 02:15:21 AM


haven't even cracked open the manual.  Opened up the fold out map once.

That's a map? I only looked at soft-core porn picture on the other side.
1764  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 30, 2010, 02:02:16 AM

Quote from: naednek on May 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM

WTF jztemple.

That wasn't the ending of the game. There are some missions with the character Reyes. Some of the last missions with him involve a lot of riding, just like missions with other characters, and he rambles on quite a long time. Sheesh, I know not to post spoilers.

Regarding the other thing, I thought that was common knowledge in the game. It's in the intro to the manual for heaven's sake.
1765  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 29, 2010, 09:56:34 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on May 29, 2010, 07:04:20 PM

beat it, didn't like most of the story missions and hated most of the characters.  Liked the end though and the main guy.  Many of the characters are a bit too outlandish and annoying.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Very much how I'm feeling about the game. I simply can't care about most of the characters, except maybe Bonnie. And the whole "secret government agency who's behind all of it" shows something of a lack of imagination in the story design. The last half of my time in Mexico I got so tired of the dialog during the rides from the start point of missions to the actual action that I skipped the ones I could. I wish I could have skipped the ride-along with Reyes on the last missions, the dialog got really predictable and frustrating.
1766  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alpha Protocol on: May 29, 2010, 09:50:20 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on May 29, 2010, 08:08:15 PM

Giant Bomb put up a Quick Look of the game yesterday.  I'd never heard of this game before about a week ago, and based on the feedback I've seen so far, I think I'll focus on some of the other RPGs in my backlog....

-Autistic Angel

That Giant Bomb video (30 minutes of gameplay!! Thanks Angel for the link) was actually somewhat encouraging. Sure the game is rough, but there does seem some promise to it. I liked what they said towards the end of the video, how while most spy games didn't get it right, Alpha Protocol does have a Burn Notice, Jason Bourne feel to it. OK, that's it, I'm going to pick it up this week when it comes out.
1767  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 29, 2010, 06:52:58 PM
Well, this is not good. About thirty hours in and I've just had two lockups in the past two hours. Not a happy camper.
1768  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 29, 2010, 03:07:50 PM

Quote from: marcusjm on May 29, 2010, 02:13:30 PM

Except for the co-op thing, what other DLC is planned for this game? I wan't more single player featuers, like the ability to sell horses and why not even own and run businesses smile.

If it wasn't Rockstar I'd be afraid we be subjected to endless DLC of new guns and horses. I suspect we'll see something like GTA IV's two mini-campaigns. Not a bad idea. I do like that owning businesses idea. Maybe sell horses you catch and break?

I'm assuming I'm approaching the end of the Mexico missions. I won't be sad. I'm burned out on cynical soldiers, pompous rebels and endless cheesey parodies of mexicans in general. The characters seem to be much more 2-dimensional than in New Austin. I think I even miss West Dickens  icon_eek.

I have my second complete lockup last night. Thankfully the save games weren't corrupted. That the second one in 24 hours of play. Not great, but I guess not too bad.
 
1769  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Test Drive Unlimited 2 on: May 29, 2010, 04:09:15 AM
I'll be getting this as well.
1770  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alpha Protocol on: May 28, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
Mmm.... I might have to transfer my $5 pre-order to something else if it's this bad...  eek
1771  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alpha Protocol on: May 28, 2010, 03:51:40 PM

Quote from: semiconscious on May 28, 2010, 03:45:44 PM

Quote from: Dante Rising on May 28, 2010, 02:57:43 PM

For example, on another forum someone mentioned that they found the game significantly more satisfying when they dumped pistols and moved to assault weapons. Another mentioned that by relaxing his urge to focus solely on stealth and H2H combat, he came to appreciate the game much more.

when i read this, i couldn't help but be reminded of a certain game that comes out a week after this. & i can wait smile ...

Green Day: Rock Band?
1772  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 28, 2010, 03:49:42 PM

Quote from: naednek on May 28, 2010, 03:44:57 PM

the planet scanning along takes ME2 out of the running for GOTY

True that. So far in RDR I haven't found anything that feels like the "girlfriend" missions in GTAIV, so it's got my vote.
1773  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alpha Protocol on: May 28, 2010, 03:42:00 PM

Quote from: Dante Rising on May 28, 2010, 03:27:36 PM


Quote
At the eight-hour mark, if you've persevered, you may well have had time to come to terms with all that. If you accept Alpha Protocol as a project made by a plucky team working to a faintly cruel budget, it's surprisingly hard not to get behind it.
Sheesh, not exactly encouraging.

Quote
Like Worcester Sauce, Alpha Protocol's separate ingredients might be slightly unappetising, but they come together in a quietly effective manner. Unlike Worcester Sauce, it will certainly frustrate you more than it should, and in between the deathlike character models and bizarre misapplications of things like depth of field effects, it will struggle to convince you the team had enough time to finish it up.

But, if you're willing to put in the effort, it can steadily win you over. Obsidian can't really compete with the bigger boys in the RPG field, then, but it's carved out a little space to call its own. With ambition instead of budget, and integrity instead of polish, in the end the choice of whether to persevere or not is pretty easy to make.
Well, I did pre-order, so I guess I might as well pick it up. The rest of you can hold off if you wish.

1774  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Alpha Protocol on: May 28, 2010, 02:46:57 PM
I pre-ordered it on a whim last fall, when it was supposed to be released, so I'll be picking it up for a break from RDR. I'm hoping it's better than that review indicates. I can accept less than bleeding edge graphics if the gameplay is worthwhile.
1775  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 28, 2010, 02:44:29 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 28, 2010, 02:35:42 PM

I'm hoping to open that soon, it's funny (and annoying) how Rockstar games almost always seem to have bridges closed to limit you at the beginning.  I know it happened in Vice City and GTA IV, can't remember if it happened in San Andreas or GTA 3.

They were closed in both San Andreas and GTA 3. Were they closed in GTA IV?
1776  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 27, 2010, 05:51:36 PM
I had a weird problem last night. I was riding shotgun with Dickens in his wagon and we were assaulted by waves of bad guys on horses and also wagons. On one wagon I killed the driver and shotgun and as I did so their wagon slewed across our path and our horses t-boned the enemy wagon. And stopped icon_eek.

Our horses pawed the ground, it's horses pawed the ground, and slowly our wagon pushed the enemy wagon sideways, but we were at the exact middle of the enemy wagon and so it wasn't tipping out of the way one direction or the other. And every few seconds an enemy rode up who had to be killed. I got frantic, hopped off and tried to climb into the enemy wagon, but no luck. I even tried to push the damn thing, but that didn't work either. This went out for two or three minutes. Finally I shot the two enemy horses and the enemy wagon slowly started to tilt out of the way.

Oddly enough, Dickens was totally nonplussed about the whole episode. Nothing rattles that man!  icon_biggrin
1777  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 27, 2010, 03:12:35 AM

Quote from: Caine on May 27, 2010, 02:33:22 AM

had my second glitch and it was a game-ender.  at a duel, it failed to load up the duel after i walked to the spot.  screen went black and that was it.  had to hard reset the xbox. 

I've had that happen once at my first duel but so far not again. Weird.
1778  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 26, 2010, 11:53:21 PM
I'm 18 hours in, 38% complete and just unlocked access to Mexico. I'd be further in but I just can't pass up helping a damsel in distress... or lassoing a runaway horse... or catching a robber... or shooting a bunny rabbit  icon_biggrin

For some associated reading I just picked up High Noon in Lincoln: Violence on the Western Frontier about the Lincoln County wars.
1779  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 26, 2010, 08:15:01 PM
I have topped out in Honor and have oodles of money. Wow, sometimes money can't buy you happiness  icon_frown
1780  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 26, 2010, 07:50:50 PM

Quote from: MaxSteele on May 26, 2010, 07:22:54 PM

Quote from: jztemple2 on May 26, 2010, 07:21:47 PM

Any reason to not to wear the bandana all the time except when being chased by the law?

If you don't want any more fame and honor points, wear it all the time if you want.  It won't be on in cut scenes though.

Crap, it prevents you from getting them? I thought it was only for not losing them. Well, off it goes then (except when I want to do something bad  slywink)
1781  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 26, 2010, 07:21:47 PM
Any reason to not to wear the bandana all the time except when being chased by the law?
1782  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 25, 2010, 08:40:58 PM
I'm sitting here posting while my John Marsten is riding the railroad toward Thief's Landing. All very surreal.

UPDATE: Standing in the tender I wait till the locomotive's bell is ringing, then spin with the right stick. Sort of strange Doppler effect.
1783  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 25, 2010, 05:46:24 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on May 25, 2010, 01:40:24 PM

You can also save at will using horse deeds since it autosaves when you summon a store-bought horse, and you can reuse deeds as often as you like.

In other news, if you're working toward the Deadly Assassin outfit be sure to do plenty of bounty missions early on. Apparently it's possible to outlevel a necessary step in the to-do list and not have a required bounty target appear anymore.   retard

Thanks for the info on the horse deed, good stuff. I wonder, did Rockstar intend that, or was it an unintended benefit?

And darn, I think went pass the required bounty mission.
1784  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 25, 2010, 01:17:06 PM

Quote from: jersoc on May 25, 2010, 06:28:25 AM

i warned everyone to keep all 3 files full! this almost happened to me, but rpgs taught me to use all and any save files you can.

I do that and I'm also neurotic about saving constantly. Thank goodness they got away from saving only at safe houses and gave me the option to save at camps.
1785  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 25, 2010, 02:37:34 AM

Quote from: Destructor on May 25, 2010, 02:22:15 AM

Wild animals are where all the money is. Just don't get killed by a wandering cougar or two.

Cougars scare the crap out of me. I've yet to see one before it hit me or my horse from behind and unless I can immediately hit the BACK button to bolster my health I'm a goner.
1786  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 24, 2010, 11:17:02 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 24, 2010, 10:17:09 PM

Too bad there isn't a horse chop shop....

I'm following the suggestion someone posted previously to whack every horse and harvest them for meat and skin. It's a small but steady income stream. That and looting every dead body and scarfing up every loose weapon.
1787  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 24, 2010, 10:01:05 PM
Thanks for the answers. One other question. I have one treasure map and I don't have a clue (hah!) what I'm supposed to be looking at. Does the one map provide enough info to find something, or do I need to find other maps?

Damn, who knew shooting hats off of heads would be so damn lethal? I'm assuming I'm NOT suppose to kill the person when I do it....
1788  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 24, 2010, 09:35:19 PM
Once I lasso and ride a wild horse out on the plains, exactly what do I do with him? Is there some place I can take him for cash?
1789  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 24, 2010, 08:56:01 PM
Cheating at poker is fun! Not the mickey mouse LS action, but deciding when to play that lap card makes for an interesting game.
1790  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 24, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
I just did my first Free Roam session. Only one other person there so I just did my own thing. I killed a deputy and got chased, attacked a gang hideout and finally seized it. Lots of fun  icon_biggrin
1791  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 24, 2010, 07:47:08 PM

Quote from: farley2k on May 24, 2010, 07:38:54 PM

I can't decide if it is a testament to how great the game is or how low our standards are as gamers that a game with this many huge bugs is praised so much. 

I'd say the former. If this was not a great game the bugs would be a death knell to sales. I've had only one lockup in eleven hours of gameplay (cross fingers) and no real glitches I've noticed.

I was emailing a friend who is familiar with the GTA games and he asked me "what kind of things can you do in the game" and I realized I had written paragraph after paragraph. There really is a lot to do, and that's all been in single player.
1792  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 23, 2010, 06:12:59 PM
I've just reached ten hours of gameplay, 22% complete, 14 missions done. I just can't help but want to stop and pick wildflowers  icon_biggrin. Like most Rockstar games, after the initial lack of cash I'm now rolling in it. I still only have three outfits so I figure I have quite a way to go.
1793  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 23, 2010, 05:38:28 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 23, 2010, 05:20:43 PM

Quote from: semiconscious on May 23, 2010, 05:04:42 PM

Quote from: Louis Cypher on May 23, 2010, 04:49:01 PM

Quote from: Booner on May 23, 2010, 03:32:26 PM

Are you able to continue working on challenges, bounties, etc. after the story line is finished?
Yes you can. Except there is one tiny difference  slywink. I can't say because it's a spoiler.

no poncho?...

you play a horse?

A horse with no name?  icon_biggrin
1794  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 22, 2010, 03:19:19 AM
Killing five wolves with my melee knife is proving to be difficult and dangerous. Any hints?
1795  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 21, 2010, 10:37:38 PM
Damn, had my first console lockup. Had just finished a bounty quest and was walking back to the hotel. I was challenged to a duel and accepted and the screen went blank and that was it, nothing for a couple of minutes, so I rebooted. Damn.
1796  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 21, 2010, 09:58:41 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on May 21, 2010, 04:29:51 PM

Video on how to cheat at poker and how to duel.

I wish he went into a bit more detail about the dueling, but wow, I had no idea it worked that way.  You fill the meter by queuing shots when the reticule is white, and whoever has more meter at the end wins the duel.


This might help, I was getting my ass kicked dueling.
1797  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 21, 2010, 03:55:55 AM

Quote from: MaxSteele on May 21, 2010, 02:43:45 AM

Alright, after much debate with The Grue over the horse hitching mechanics and the type of horses, we set out to do some real research in-game to find out the answers once and for all.  I'm going to give the summary of our testing, then I'll give the detail.  If you don't care about the detail, just read the summary.

Thanks for your work. If when you whistle you get a 2 star horse, is there any reason to ever buy a sickly, one star horse?
1798  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 21, 2010, 02:35:03 AM
I'm too nice to play this game. I have been leading a clean, wholesome life (except shooting a horse). I didn't even gun down the folks who cheated me at cards. They must have cheated, right?

I'm really into the game. I haven't done a lot of missions, I'm just wandering around, seeing what happens.
1799  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: May 20, 2010, 01:26:30 PM

Quote from: JayDee on May 20, 2010, 01:15:17 PM

Still loving this game, but the controls sure are awkward at times. Especially when trying to lasso from a horse. You have to hold down A to maintain your gallop, aim with LT, press RT to throw the lasso (still holding down A), then while still holding down RT, let go of A and press and hold RB to slow your horse down. Then Y to dismount, walk over (still holding RT so you don't lose your prey) and hit Y again to hogtie. Took me half an hour to do the lasso missions on the ranch. I'm getting the hang of it, but it was almost controller-throwing frustrating for a few minutes.

I think I'd rather be dancing on the beach in Los Santos  Roll Eyes
1800  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: gaming on 64-bit Windows 7? on: May 11, 2010, 05:20:37 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 10, 2010, 06:32:46 AM

Quote from: Destructor on May 10, 2010, 06:00:13 AM

No problem at all. Yeah, you may run into problems if you're trying to play early Windows 95/98 titles, but that has been an issue throughout Vista's years as well.

For playing anything semi-current, you won't run into any issues at all as far as gaming goes. I've been running Vista 64 and now Windows 7 64 on my gaming rig and haven't had a problem.

and who still plays win 95/98 titles anyways?  Tongue

My wife just got me three new bookcases and requested Roll Eyes that I get my old games out of the cardboard boxes in the garage. Holy-moly, a lot of them are old. Like Jane's Longbow. Not the Gold, the original (I also have Longbow 2). Heck, I even have Flight Commander 2, which calls for Windows 3.11  icon_biggrin

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