Good info there. One question, he mentioned "The Add Time indicates the point where you can cancel the reload animation and still have a reloaded weapon." I'm assuming I can cancel by using the ADS button? Or is this something different?
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Not tough. Grenade spam at the start of TDM on Nuketown. I think I got it on the second round I played there.
Thanks for reminding me about this, I'll give it a try.
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Not only that, but using Hardline Pro's "Gamble" changes the odds in favor of middle ground streaks a bit more, making it extra useful as a Perk. Also, it will never just give you the same thing again when you change it.
Darn, this does sound pretty neat. And just after I've spent all that time working on my prerequisites for Ghost Pro
I've finally achieved Hacker Pro. The last criteria I had to satisfy was 25 kills within range of my motion sensor. You might think this would take a while, but no, I got it done in an hour, playing TDM on Nuketown six times in a row (sheesh). My group on Mercenary TDM kept voting the map over and over. So I brought my M60 and at the start of each round and after each spawn I put my sensor behind the house then hunkered down near the back.
So now to get the other two Pros I need one grenade kill (easy), one grenade multi-kill (tough) and must kill one Sentry Gun (apparently freaking impossible)
I have some questions for the experts here regarding perks...
If I have Warlord Pro, which gives me one extra lethal and tactical grenade, and I'm also using Scavenger (or Scavenger Pro), when I get a reload bag do I get just one more lethal (both for Pro), or do I fill up to the max I had at spawn/respawn?
Does Ghost Pro make me undetectable by choppers? I'm freaking out whenever one of those is in the air.
When I read that Hardline Pro allows me to change the contents of a Care Package, what are the limits? Can I pick anything?
Overall they did a good job setting the criteria for upgrading from a regular perk to the Pro level. In MW2 it seemed like I didn't even need to think about it. In BO I am changing my loadout and playstyle just so I can go from Ghost to Ghost Pro. Now if I could ever find that elusive enemy Sentry Gun I would be all set.
I can never knock Nuketown. I got a care package with a chopper gunner and on that tiny map there was no place for the enemy to hide except downstairs in the buildings and then my teammates would flush them out. That's what prompted the question about Ghost Pro and choppers. I can't imagine not wanting to be unseen by that sucker.
I just had a great match. I was in TDM, only 3 vs 3 and my two team mates dropped out after a minute because no one was joining. Playing on Hanoi, I managed to beat the three guys on the other team 19-10, about seven of the kills being Claymores . They finally got so pissed off they left with about 30 seconds to go.
Thanks. I thought I had done that, but I might have been hitting "back" instead.
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Oh yeah, I love the SAM turrets. It's like having an extra Teggy on the battlefield
Are SAM turrets limited by line of sight? I'm assuming they are.
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Having seen what a gunship can do, my firm belief in ghost pro and sam turrets is strengthened.
I'm assuming from your statement that Ghost Pro hides you from Gunships. I know Ghost doesn't. I was on freaking Nuketown yesterday and a gunship was chasing me all around. Man, what a great game, dogs and gunships.
I'm thinking that Nuketown must be the smallest TDM map. It's almost too small, but it's playable. I just wish I could get my team mates to not rush forward all the time, which allows the enemy to spawn behind us. It's like MW2's Salvage map. I got into the habit, if we spawned on the snowcat side, to stay in there.
Quote from: Teggy on November 10, 2010, 05:16:36 AM
Who knows if it will stay that way, but MP has seemed slower paced than MW2. There are a lot fewer snipers, and while we have seen a couple of knife builds, it doesn't compare to MW2.
I've also noticed that there seem to be fewer snipers. I think I can attribute at least part of that to fewer good locations for them. Also it seems, as I mentioned before, that kills seem easier to achieve, so if I see someone setting up as a sniper I can throw some rounds downrange at them and have a reasonable chance at a kill.
Regarding knifers, I think maybe people are still playing around with the guns. Give it a few days. I've already been cut down by a guy wielding dual pistols.
I have been using LMGs exclusively so far and like them well enough, although the smaller mag size make it a different experience than in the past. I purchased extended mags and that made it a lot better. I am considering sometimes playing with Warlord after I finish up hardened pro so I can use both the extended mags and a sight. If I like the M60, though, it won't be necessary. I will say that the slow fire rate of the LMGs can cause you to lose in face to face situations a lot. I've been trying my best to catch people off guard.
Me too on the LMG. I've stuck with the HK21 with the extended mags and the dot sight. I agree with the losing in face to face encounters, the LMG isn't as good as a snapshot with the 3 round burst of the M-16. However my style of play, which is to move crouched, seems to help. Just like in MW2, most of my kills are guys running in open terrain. In MW2 Hardcore people move slower.
Has anyone tried Hardcore mode?
Contracts are a nice addition and add an element of fun if you are into the metagame. I'm also eager to level to the point where I can customize my guy a bit more.
Contracts are a bit of a letdown for me, unless I'm misunderstanding them. Once you get past the first one in each of the three groups, it requires a certain weapon be used or a certain game mode. At least I can replay the same contract over and over, although the monetary benefits aren't that great.
The money purchase routine is still driving me crazy in a good way. I'm reluctant to buy attachments unless I think I'm going to use that weapon a lot. Same way for perks. As Sid Meiers would say, give the player intelligent choices. It's a great design decision to add it.
The maps are nice, very well designed with all sorts of hideaways, place to climb, multiple paths, etc. I don't think I've come across a sniper map like "Railyard" in MW2, which for my play style is a good thing. I love the one with the rocket ("Launch"?). It's funny to listen to the folks on it for the first time asking "what's that noise?" .
Adding the grid to the maps is good, although on some maps it's not sized properly. On those maps my mini-map window will only show one map reference and it's difficult to identify the ID of an adjacent square in all the rushing around. Am I correct to assume that there is no way to display the full map? Or did I just not find the right button?
Kudos to XBL, all my matches yesterday were lag free. I was exclusively in Mercenary Team Deathmatch and my only complaint is that almost no one seems to have a headset except the little kids.
My local Gamestop, a smaller store in a lesser market, had about 200 people at the midnight sale. When I came by at about 2pm this afternoon there were a half-dozen people in line. The clerk says they had the largest number of pre-orders ever.
I finally stopped after about four hours of playing. Very, very pleased. Great maps, no lagging, no apparent glitches, no problems moving from lobby to game. The purchase system for weapons, attachments, perks, etc works well. There are some items that can't be accessed until higher levels are achieved. It's cool to be able to get what you want early on.
And speaking as someone who preferred Hardcore in the two previous games because I couldn't get kills in Normal mode, I've had few problems in Black Ops, even with the M-16 and it's three shot bursts. I've even managed to attain a decent K/D ratio.
I'm getting my copy tomorrow afternoon, but it's likely the servers will be getting hammered so I'll do my usual try at the SP campaign, become disillusioned and spend the rest of my free time chasing bots around. Or vice versa.
Black Ops tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing if I can kick the butts of the bots, as I am less than sanguine about my chances versus 7-year olds who's parents got them a pre-release copy off craigslist.
Hmm, I wonder about what you mentioned, if Companion kills count on your tally. I know you get the XP. I'll have to experiment.
UPDATE: Yup, any kills your companion makes do not show up on your Pipboy tally. So having a good companion or two would make it easier to complete the game without killing anything. However, what fun would that be?
Now at about hour forty in the game, and just passed game save #1000 (although I overwrite old saves, keeping about twelve at any time). That's a save roughly every two and a half minutes. Am I being obsessive?
Only two lockups so far, and once I purged the memory cache there's no lag to speak of, even in The Strip.
And speaking of major spoilers (whah?), I just have to tell the tale of "Poor Cass". Read only if know about Cass's eventual (but not necessarily only or mandatory) fate, or you don't mind reading spoilers. Seriously. Fair warning.
Spoiler for Hiden:
I've got Boone with me and we go visit the Silver Rush. After a bit of questing I'm told that the guy would really like me to bring Cass to him. Well, that's not easy since Cass turned me down before. But one quest leads to another and eventually I end up with Cass as my companion, along with ED-E.
So I go back to the Silver Rush, suspecting that things aren't going to go well for Cass, but whatever. We go in and I go talk to the brother and he wants Cass in an unpleasant way. I can chose to let him have her, fight him for her, or Cass and I can walk out. I think about it for a second, then mentally turn to Cass and say "remember how I told you we would travel together for a long while? BAZINGA!"
I told the brother she's all yours, and while I'm rooted to the spot where I'm standing, he goes over and turns her into glowing ash. Oh well, she drank too much anyway.
I just got the update. I agree, the text seems a little bit fuzzier. Not a bad amount, like maybe it's optimized for 720p and since my monitor is at 1080p and eighteen inches from my nose I see it a little fuzzy.
So far I don't see any advantage gained in changing the style of the dashboard. Doesn't really look as clean and sharp as below.
By the way, I think it's weird that for such a greatly anticipated game (midnight launch and everything), there's no FONV theme for the 360 nor no avatar items. I really want an ED-E to be floating around my avatar
I've become a real "quest-whore", never turning down a mission request. I have seen some odd quest structures, where I've had a quest or two sort of hang in the air. Some have resolved themselves, others still await some strange or unlikely event that will resolve things. I'm not so bothered if the occasional quest fails to be resolved, as long as it doesn't break the main campaign structure. To me it's part of the mystery of New Vegas.
Walking out of The Tops, after everything that went on in there, I turned and found Boone staring at me. I actually said out loud, "Don't look at me, I don't know what the hell is going on either" . This game is getting so good.
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Setting and story, I'm finding this game to be so much better than FO3. New Vegas feels like I'm playing something similar to Fallout 1 & 2. Sometimes things are black and white. Many stories are filled with shades of gray. I'm still not entirely sure which major faction to support. There are ups and downs to each one that I'm considering.
+1 to that sentiment. By this time in FO3 I didn't really care about this faction or that, I was just trying to complete quests. Now I'm specifically not ripping off the odd ammo or scrap metal because I don't want to lessen my good relationship the owning faction. It's not because of what I know will happen, but instead it's because I worry about what I think might happen.
Quote from: Harkonis on October 29, 2010, 07:56:16 AM
ghost/hardened/ninja for me probably 99% of the time
Looks like the same for me. I'm assuming there won't be a heartbeat sensor in this version, which is a shame since I've grown accustomed to it in MW2. I especially like when people bitch about me using it. RPD+grip+heart beat sensor = old people's preferred load out. Now if I can just get Hardcore mode...
Up to 29.5 hours today, still having fun. I did a couple of quests still in the south end of the map. Then I resolved to go to the Strip, finally. Started walking that way from my safe house, almost got about half way there, then got distracted again . There are just so many cool things to do.
About 27 hours into the game, level 12. Still haven't gotten to the Strip, but I've been helping out the NCR by attacking one place and then going to an NCR camp
Spoiler for Hiden:
attacking Nelson and then going to Camp Forlorn Hope
At the NCR place I found several side quests that were pretty interesting, including one that was NOT a courier or assassination mission...
Spoiler for Hiden:
I got to operate on three wounded soldiers!
I also came across a mission that reminded me of the one of the first ones in Morrowind where you have no real objective location, you are told to just look around to figure out what to do. I finally had to peek into the guide since it was driving me nuts, but I think some of you clever types would have figured it out on your own.
After this many hours I think I can say that this is a better game than FO3, what with the additions of Factions, Hardcore mode, weapon damage ratings, plus a few other things. The faction gameplay really makes it worthwhile to think about how your current actions will affect your future relationships. Shame that they shipped it with bugs which hurt the review scores.
Speaking of factions, I think the Legion is running out of nasty things to say about me. I've been disliked, hated and now vilified. Really, you would think they'd be a bit more open minded . Has anyone approached the game with the intent of getting on the good side of the Legion? Is it even possible? I hadn't considered replaying FONV since I never did replay Oblivion or FO3, but perhaps in a couple of months I could see starting a new FONV game and trying to flip-flop all my relationships from the first playthrough. I'm sure there are a bunch of quests I can't access this time since, well, the Legion tries to kill me on sight.
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I finally made it to the strip last night, and magically my load times increased to the point where I had to turn the game off...
Well, that's not encouraging. In twenty-five hours of play I've managed to stay off the strip. I guess I can continue on my self-imposed quest of filling in every empty triangle on my compass and continue to do so on the southern end of the map. Having two companions certainly helps, as does Mojave Express (When it positively, absolutely has to get to some rusty mailbox in an abandoned building in the middle of nowhere).
I also picked up Fable III but don't want to start it and get drawn away from FONV. I hoping a damn patch comes out quickly to fix the load time problems on the 360 at the Strip.
Well, I'd start a new Fable III impressions thread but although I picked up the vanilla game and the collector's edition guide (go figure) and installed it, I never did get around to playing since I am still deep in FONV. Man, you gotta love those weeks from the start of fall till Thanksgiving!
I'm up to 22 hours in and haven't gotten to The Strip yet. I'm having a good time not just with the main quests, side quests and free Quests but I'm also doing a lot of exploring on the southern end of the map. I have two Companions
Spoiler for Hiden:
Boone and Ed-E
which makes me pretty bad-ass.
I figure I'm not going to replay FONV, I tried to do so with FO3 but never got into it and gave up after a while. So I'm trying to find all the locations in FONV as I go along. In a pinch I'm using the map that came with strategy guide. The main map shows locations but they are coded to be looked up in the book, so nothing is given away other than that there is something there. This gives me a reason to keep wandering in any specific direction.
The faction aspect of the game is a nice addition. I'm totally NCR and so the Legion hates me. This has affected how I approached several quests and I'm wondering that maybe this would be a good way to make a second playthrough of the game worthwhile, by trying to be as different as possible in how I relate to the various factions.
Pretty much finished up in the Novac/REPCONN area (I think). So many cool things there. I still am enjoying the game a lot and it was really hard to tear myself away to watch the Korean GP on the DVR today. Nineteen and a half hours of gameplay, I'm at level 8, still only that one lockup at hour four so far.