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1521  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Test Drive Unlimited 2 on: February 07, 2011, 08:01:05 PM
*If* it lives up the previews, there's a lot of new features (day/night cycle, damage, etc) that will make it more interesting than the first. They are including Oahu, the island from the first game, but haven't said if it is populated with challenges like Ibiza or just some place to drive around. Obviously I'm hoping for the former.

Someone on another forum complained that there are only 43 cars in the game. I don't recall seeing an exact number, but in the first game I never did get around to collecting them all and frankly after a while it became like Forza game where you are collecting for the sake of collecting. If the included cars have enough variety that's enough for me. Also I notice it's $10 cheaper than most 360 games. I'm hoping that's a marketing ploy, not some admission that they are just trying to wring what they can out of a mediocre game. Well, I'll find out tomorrow.
1522  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (02/07) on: February 07, 2011, 07:56:26 PM
Test Drive Unlimited 2 on the 360
1523  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Test Drive Unlimited 2 on: February 04, 2011, 06:33:48 PM
The game is planned to be released in four days and I for one am looking forward to it. First online review is by GamesInformer with an 85%. The reviewer liked most of it and was unimpressed with just a few items. Wish he had mentioned the car physics a bit more. I'm not expecting Forza 3 or GT5, but I'd prefer it not be too arcade-like.

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Developer Eden Games succeeds in creating an open-world racing title that blends online racing, single-player career competitions, and free ride exploration into one cohesive experience. Games like Burnout Paradise have done this before (and in some ways better), but two of the key things that make TDU 2 stand out are the locations and its various leveling categories that are all linked together.

I played the hell out the first one, so I'm hoping for the best with this one. I'll be picking it up Tuesday and will try to post impressions later that day.
1524  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: February 02, 2011, 05:26:56 PM

Quote from: Nonnahob on February 02, 2011, 02:26:38 PM

I'm with you on the campfest. I chalk some of it up to people just not knowing the maps well yet, but I couldn't agree more on Kowloon. WTF were they thinking? SO MANY NOOKS!

True, lots of places to hide, but once you get familiar with the map it's easier to clear folks out of those spots. It's one of the reasons I like my Hacker perk. Seeing a Claymore in a potential camper's nest tells me I ought to pop a 40mm grenade at the place. Also a good reason to use the Ghost perk, it not only prevents the camper from seeing me approach, but he might even get a false sense of security if he doesn't see a dot on his radar where I am. And my use of decoys helps to confuse his situational awareness as well.

Using the above tactics on Discovery works really well too.

I think the new maps work well in Hardcore Team Deathmatch, but I can't comment on other game modes. After playing the new maps yesterday I still think that Summit is my worst map. I never seem to be able to fight effectively on it. Everyone keeps moving to the control room and that becomes a death trap. I try staying back but the enemy will spawn behind me unless I'm at the very ends of the map and that's no fun.
1525  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: February 01, 2011, 10:15:48 PM
I hereby declare the new map pack  thumbsup
1526  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 28, 2011, 09:22:33 PM

Quote from: msduncan on January 28, 2011, 07:45:29 PM

At that point is a 'lava blade' that kills them....

What's a lava blade?
1527  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: January 28, 2011, 01:39:55 AM

Quote from: ATB on January 28, 2011, 01:26:04 AM

New patch is out. Connections are worse than ever.

Edit: Have played 8 matches tonight and not one has seen most of the room over 3 bars.

In many cases it's a bunch of three bar and TWO bars.  disgust

I played this afternoon after the patch and everything seemed to be no different, connection or any other way. That was on Hardcore, maybe the servers aren't being hit as hard?
1528  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 27, 2011, 03:10:35 PM

Quote from: Archinerd on January 27, 2011, 01:50:15 PM

Animals have a chance to spawn on any grass block with sufficient light.

Which sounds like a challenge to me. If I fence in a couple of dozen blocks, how many generated animals can I corral? I have visions of sheep stacking up like cord wood  icon_biggrin
1529  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: January 25, 2011, 04:58:01 PM

Quote from: Boudreaux on January 25, 2011, 04:28:54 PM

I'd be pissed if Ghost Pro were nerfed, as that's pretty much the only thing that keeps me alive in games.  I'd understand the objections if everyone were using it, but in my experience most people don't.  Most people don't carry AA launchers either.  Being able to carry a Strela and use Ghost Pro is pretty much the only counter to someone who is already good enough to get a Huey using it to completely devastate the other team. 

I've been playing Hardcore Team Deathmatch pretty much exclusively since the game came out. I would have suspected that Ghost and Ghost Pro would show up more in Hardcore but surprisingly it seems to be fairly rarely used. I certainly hope they don't nerf it either, it's one of the few counters I have to being old and slow.

And also somewhat surprising to me, playing HC-TDM there are still a bunch of folks who insist on moving (not running) in the open and get picked off by those who move slow and stalk. I love those folks, they help my K/D ratio  icon_biggrin.

Another observation I've made is that once the novelty of the RC cars wore off, many folks seem to have exchanged it for the spy plane as their first Killstreak reward. Certainly it makes sense.

For me, the ultimate HC-TDM perk selection is Ghost Pro, Warlord Pro and Hacker Pro. Ghost Pro allows me to hide from anything except direct observation (and RC cars, dammit). Warlord Pro allows me to carry two lethal grenades, three decoys and a Claymore. Hacker Pro allows me to find enemy claymores and the like, which helps to fill in the intelligence puzzle. And with the spy plane as my first Killstreak reward it really helps me to find the bad guys first. Additionally, the combination of Ghost Pro and decoys really helps to mess up the enemy's perception of where I might be.

Speaking of camping, I will reiterate my mantra: "You're not playing Hardcore right if you don't camp occasionally". Going back and forth from being an active mover to being a camper messes with the opponent's play. My counter to enemy camping is to use the spy plane as much as I can, and also be map knowledgeable about where my opponent might hide. It's also why I'll never give up my China Lake. There's nothing like a bloop gun to clear out potential campers.

I don't have a problem with the chopper gunner. If you let an enemy run up that big a kill streak then it's fair that they get to whack your butt for it. If it comes in a care package, well, those are the breaks. When I'm playing HC-TDM I try to be a good team player and call out where I see the care package helo hover. Heck, if I can, I try to drop a couple of 40mm grenades on the spot if I can't see it directly nod.

1530  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 18, 2011, 10:33:38 PM

Quote from: Zinfan on January 18, 2011, 10:09:41 PM

Twice in the last few days I've exited minecraft and had my computer BSD crash.  When I get rebooted the minecraft world I was playing in is gone.  A shame since I had diamond tools in both of those worlds.  I never had this problem in the alpha days.

Yikes! That's scary. I've been paranoid after the first couple of days when I realized how bad one hiccup could be. I have a simple (free) backing up tool, SyncBack, and what I do is periodically in the game I'll press ESC which causes the game to save, then run my SyncBack option that backs up the minecraft folder which is in my C:/Documents and Settings/[name]/Application Data/.minecraft path. I also do this after I terminate a session.

Obviously you don't need a backup tool, you can just leave a shortcut on the desktop and drag and copy to a backup location.

1531  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 18, 2011, 05:09:28 PM

Quote from: baelthazar on January 18, 2011, 04:04:40 PM

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My indoor tree farm was a bust, but my outdoor farm (tree-ery?) is going like gangbusters.

I believe the term you are looking for is Arbor.  icon_biggrin

I thought that when the ships sailed from old Blighty they sailed from the arbor (arbour actually). That is, when there are no urricanes about. Of course, in artford, ereford, and ampshire, urricanes ardly ever appen.
1532  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 17, 2011, 11:40:48 PM
I tried to stay away from Minecraft today and get in some reading, but it dragged me back in  icon_biggrin. I got creative and made three double sized storage chests and put signs above each so I could sort and store my stuff in an organized manner.

I'm also continuing my obsession with glass. I now have glass skylights in my underground lair. I also accidentally dig into a water source which flooded me out, but after about forty minutes of tweaking I turned it into a glass enclosed waterfall in my lobby.

My indoor tree farm was a bust, but my outdoor farm (tree-ery?) is going like gangbusters.
1533  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 17, 2011, 09:59:11 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on January 17, 2011, 09:54:59 PM

You can use redstone to make a compass that points back to your spawn point, or a watch that shows the cycle of the moon and sun.  Other than that I think the only other use is switches and logic gates.

Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah, I built the compass and clock. I'm hoping that as the game progresses towards release more functional items will be added. I'd love to have a powered drilling machine. Point it, turn it on, and it just digs a two cube high tunnel till you need to add a new charge. Hmm, I think I'll post that to their forum.
1534  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 17, 2011, 09:52:25 PM
I've been finding a lot of redstone. Looking in the wiki, I don't seem to find a lot of use for it except for building a lot of NAND and NOR and other logic circuits. Any other useful things I can do with it?
1535  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 15, 2011, 10:53:26 PM

Quote from: Lordnine on January 15, 2011, 07:39:30 PM

New OO server World Map for anyone interested.  (Click for full size) (20mb file warning)


I go it to download by saving the JPG to my desktop and viewing in Paint Shop Pro. It's a pretty cool world, I love the round walled off area with the central pillar and the aquarium.

After I burn out on single play I might give MP a whirl. How do you folks communicate inside and outside of the game?
1536  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 15, 2011, 10:45:00 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on January 15, 2011, 10:00:57 PM

ah, it's good to know that I still have the good old 'oh shit creeper!' jump out of your seat reflex.  I'm starting to make pit traps for them.

Would you elaborate on "pit traps"? They still freak the heck out of me.
1537  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 15, 2011, 08:20:44 PM
I ended up spending about six hours playing yesterday and boy, it does just draw you in. I alternated spending time on the surface growing trees and wheat and mining underground. I finally did reach bedrock and came across some redstone, but so far no gold and so little iron that I can't waste it on tools.

Besides mining some more my next goal is to do more exploring. I now have my compass so I can find my way home. I figure I'll carry enough resources to be able to build a hut for staying overnight. The land where I am is pretty barren, no mushrooms and only one type of flower. And snow, lots and lots of snow.
1538  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3] Homefront on: January 15, 2011, 02:40:12 AM
I'm a bit intrigued about this. Let's hope for a demo.
1539  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 15, 2011, 02:35:45 AM

Quote from: Caine on January 15, 2011, 02:00:48 AM

nice that they added charcoal.  i wonder if you can use that in the smelter as a fuel source.

Yes you can. It's a real help.
1540  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 15, 2011, 12:34:20 AM
Since spiders can climb my fences into my patio, I felt the need to make a complete structure with walls and roof. However, since I like the view, I made it all of glass.




1541  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 14, 2011, 10:26:52 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on January 14, 2011, 10:21:24 PM

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How do I "wear" armor I made? I've got a piece but I'm not sure how to equip it.

Iirc you equip it via the inventory screen. I usually don't make any so it's been awhile since I've had to equip it.

Thanks. That spider made me think it might not be a bad idea to have it.
1542  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 14, 2011, 10:15:12 PM
How do I "wear" armor I made? I've got a piece but I'm not sure how to equip it.

Oh, btw, spiders can climb over my fence, dammit  icon_frown.
1543  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 14, 2011, 04:01:32 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on January 14, 2011, 03:51:22 PM

You could tell yourself that you need a full suit of diamond armor to win the game.  You'll just kind of naturally "level up" to better and better equipment as you work your way up*.

*(down)

Good point. I think I also need to make some intermediate goals. i think my first will be to create a surface level area with fences and torches so I can keep working outside at night. Heck,that could be my first goal, to spend a night on the surface in safety.
1544  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 14, 2011, 02:08:09 PM
I installed Minecraft on all three of my computers. It ran ok on my early 2003 era desktop, but still stuttered. I tuned the options and that helped. It ran fairly poorly on my Vista notebook even with tweaks. Surprisingly, it also ran ok on my little Acer netbook, although it still stuttered a bit till I got underground.

I had watched various YouTube videos of Minecraft generated grand structures but hadn't really read too much about the game. This was one reason I held off on getting it, I just didn't know what to expect. So I wasn't prepared for a couple of impressions I took away after about four hours of playing yesterday. One is the critical nature of the day/night cycle. By the end of my session yesterday I had developed a phobia about the night. Once above ground after the sun came up it seemed I couldn't do things fast enough. If I worked on something outside I would keep checking on how far I was from my little hole in the ground. At the first hint of oncoming darkness I'd scamper for the hole and assure myself I had provided sufficient protection for the night. Sheesh.

The second impression? They weren't kidding about the name "Minecraft". After starting several games and giving up because I didn't feel like I was doing things well, I finally started a game on the netbook. Weirdly, there was snow on the ground. And there were no hills! Where would I get my coal? I dug around, hitting a lot of sand, then finally some rock. So I went down and down and finally horizontally, although it was almost dark that far down. I expanded the cavity a bit and made some stairs, then put up a wall to prevent anything bad from getting in. After one dark night <shiver> I hit coal on the second day icon_biggrin. Then for what must have been an hour real time I just dug more mine galleries looking for more coal and something besides plain rock. By the time I had to go to bed I found that I had only been back topside one time to quickly gather more wood; otherwise I just lived like a Troglodyte. I have a crafting table and a smelter, but I'm using them just to make more tools so I can keep digging. If I could grow a tree underground I'd never go back to the surface.

I haven't tried it, but I assume I can move saved games from one computer to another. This would certainly come in handy.

I'm wondering how much longer I'll play it, however. Without goals or objectives, just making objects and digging and building structures might start to get old after a while. We'll see.

UPDATE: I just was reading the Minecraft Wiki and found out that I CAN grow trees underground. I am happy...
1545  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 13, 2011, 10:14:30 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on January 13, 2011, 09:49:38 PM

Don't foret doors!  Creepers can't open doors!

(yet)

I put up a couple of doors, but somehow I got blown up anyway. Should I make sure to stay back from them?
1546  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: My weekend was assassinated by Minecraft on: January 13, 2011, 09:40:17 PM
I drank the Kool-Aid and bought this. I'm having fun, but I'm still a bit lost on how to keep out the monsters. I guess I'll pick it up as I go along.
1547  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [Xbox 360] Colin McRae Rally 2005 on: January 10, 2011, 03:51:14 PM
With the 2011 Dakar Rally in progress I got the rally racing game bug. However with a lack of recent, decent rally sims for the 360 I dusted off my old CMR 2005 and gave it a go. While the graphics do look, well, five years old, the game does work nicely on the 360. I had played it a while when I got it for the original Xbox but hadn't really dived into the Career mode for some reason. I've done this now and it turns out to be pretty nice. You unlock better cars by winning early rallies in the usual Codemasters way. There's a very good variety of stage roads from asphalt to gravel to snow, with variation of each, and sometimes there's rain or snow precipitation to contend with. The stages are quite different from one another, with tight hairpins in Greece, insanely fast straights in Australia and little lanes through crop fields in Germany to name a few.

I'm just posting this in case anyone else has the rally bug and wonders if it's worth looking for CMR 2005. It is  nod
1548  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2011 Release Chart on: January 10, 2011, 03:35:09 PM
Thanks for posting this chart. While I'm rather surprised at the lack of exclusives for the 360, there's nothing exclusively for the PS3, or "not for the 360" that would drive me to getting a PS3. It does look like I'll finally have to get a new gaming PC however.

I'm a bit surprised at seeing Tropico 4. I've read a lot of unhappy comments about Tropico 3, especially for the console edition having a population limit bug that was apparently never addressed. Maybe that's why it's going to be for the PC only.

Happy to see not only Forza 4 but also Test Drive Unlimited 2 and Dirt 3. Watching too much Top Gear (the good UK version) is turning me back on to racing games. Still no decent rally games however.

And I see that Microsoft is getting back into the flight simulator business. Good news if they keep modding accessible to the fans.
1549  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: December 21, 2010, 02:15:53 AM

Quote from: ras752000 on December 20, 2010, 05:19:16 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 20, 2010, 05:09:53 PM

the first map pack is due out on February 1st according to Major Nelson's podcast.  it's also a 360 timed exclusive.
Well, that's only proper since working multiplayer was also an xbox timed exclusive too.

Oh snap!  icon_biggrin Isn't it the truth?
1550  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: December 20, 2010, 12:31:51 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on December 20, 2010, 12:03:12 AM

Quote from: USMC Kato on December 19, 2010, 11:35:40 PM

Quote from: Nonnahob on December 19, 2010, 10:57:21 PM

Quote from: Bob on December 19, 2010, 09:34:39 PM

I thought COD stood for Call of Duty.

Clearly, you thought wrong.

 icon_confused ?

I think they mean the D stands for something else, something that starts with D and ends with rama.

Maybe Dr D Rama Naidu?

Or diorama-o-rama?

More?
1551  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amazon Kindle: Kindle 3! on: December 06, 2010, 04:37:51 PM
Finally went to Target and got the Wifi+3G version and the cool Kindle brand case with the built in light. Am very happy with it, getting all sorts of free books and games, since I find it hard at this time to justify buying expensive ebooks when I have hundreds of regular books awaiting my reading pleasure.

The only issue I'm having is with the browser. I changed the settings to access my wifi at home, which works fine,  and then played with the browser, which is ok if somewhat limited. But at work where I have no wifi I tried using the 3G and the browser and it's no go. I am able to get things over Whispernet so I do have a connection. Is it something to do with the browser requiring some data connection that has less coverage than Whispernet? I'll test it some more today to be sure, but right now I'm a bit confused.
1552  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: December 01, 2010, 05:17:19 PM
I've been either very lucky with my blops connections or maybe it's Brighthouse down here in Florida that is to thank, but I've been scoring a solid four bars every game. Occasionally I do see someone warping a bit but when I check it's almost always just the one person with a bad connections.
1553  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: December 01, 2010, 01:45:07 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on December 01, 2010, 01:36:58 AM

Quote from: jztemple2 on December 01, 2010, 12:44:24 AM

Quote from: TheEgoWhip on December 01, 2010, 12:35:33 AM

Played in Nuketown (blech)

I'd still prefer Nuketown over Summit. That's just an insane map unless you can keep folks back in the original spawn areas, otherwise you keep getting shot in the back.

I hope the first map pack has medium or large maps; Treyarch did so well with their CoD:WaW packs.

Treyarch isn't doing the map packs.  They are done with Black Ops and moving on to the next one.  Raven is doing all the DLC.

Did Raven do the CoD:WaW maps? Whoever did them did a good job.
1554  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: December 01, 2010, 12:44:24 AM

Quote from: TheEgoWhip on December 01, 2010, 12:35:33 AM

Played in Nuketown (blech)

I'd still prefer Nuketown over Summit. That's just an insane map unless you can keep folks back in the original spawn areas, otherwise you keep getting shot in the back.

I hope the first map pack has medium or large maps; Treyarch did so well with their CoD:WaW packs.
1555  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: November 30, 2010, 11:22:24 PM
My first video! Three fast kills on Launch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJQNr01K4UI
1556  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Requesting info regarding getting online with a PS3 on: November 29, 2010, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: The_Man
It's actually pretty simple.  Name, email address, password.  It's been awhile since I set mine up but I don't think a credit card is required at all.  And yes, you can get Playstation Network cards at Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, and Gamestop.  They usually come in $20 or $50 increments.

Thanks for the info. I have a local Gamestop which is very convenient and I'd rather throw them my business rather than a Big Box store.

Quote from: Teggy on November 29, 2010, 01:45:31 PM

You can buy stuff off Playstation Network with dollars (quite a novel idea, huh?) Or is you concern putting your credit card info into their system?

Yeah, I'd rather not give them my credit card info. I know it's all very safe now on the Internet slywink but I'm still a bit of a chicken.
1557  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty:Black Ops [Impressions start @ page 12] on: November 29, 2010, 02:33:39 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on November 29, 2010, 02:22:02 PM


I love my Hacker Pro, I keep running around yelling at my team mates not to blow up the enemy equipment but to let me hack them. I haven't been able to do very many care packages but switching over Claymores is very, very satisfying  nod. I also get satisfaction saving my team mates from Claymores and other nasties by calling them out as I see them. 
1558  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Requesting info regarding getting online with a PS3 on: November 29, 2010, 11:04:27 AM
I'm considering getting a PS3 to play Gran Turismo 5. How much of a hassle is it to getting registered and active on Sony's Playstation Network? Do I need a credit card or my first born (good luck on that slywink) or lots of very personal information? My Xbox Live account set up was pretty trivial, so I'm hoping the Sony one is the same.

Also, does the PSN have points cards you can get at Gamestop like Xbox Live Marketplace does, to buy DLC? I checked on the Gamestop site and didn't find them, but maybe I'm searching for the wrong thing.
1559  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 3 Discussion and Impressions on: November 26, 2010, 10:47:29 PM

Quote from: JayDee on November 26, 2010, 09:31:41 PM

Quote from: Reemul on November 26, 2010, 08:23:13 PM

To start over do i have to delete the whole game or is it possible to remove my save game only?

I would like to know this as well as I last played my career over a year ago and didn't get very far and would like a fresh start.

I imagine you only delete your saved game. Better to try that then to delete the whole thing and realize you were wrong.
1560  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: AC: Brotherhood - impressions and full review! on: November 26, 2010, 02:19:54 PM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on November 26, 2010, 01:42:28 PM

Quote from: Caine on November 26, 2010, 06:48:27 AM

Quote from: spigot on November 26, 2010, 06:40:28 AM

Just beat the story mode. A big WTF at the end. Didn't see it coming, didn't make much sense and not quite sure what it all means.

so, just like ac2 then.

Funny but near the end of AC2 at the big WTF? moment there, Desmond and I both said it at the same time.  icon_lol

I really must finish AC2 some time, it's the only thing holding me up from getting AC:B
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