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1361  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 22, 2011, 06:04:50 AM
One final update before I go to sleep. I just finished the tenth and last season of the World Tour. The last year is known as the League of Legends. Very appropriate seeing as I am a legend in my own mind icon_biggrin. It totaled twenty-seven events, several with two heats. The last event consisted of two heats of one lap each of the Nürburgring Nordschleife. Oddly, although really in line with how most of the rest of the events of the World Tour were structured, the race was based on the car I had already selected. I was (and am) trying to get Affinity level 4 with all the manufacturers and since I was working on Buick at the time, the final event was open to class E, which I ran in my E425 Buick Regal GNX. The paint job is not mine, I got the car through an auction.



So now I am a Legend. Funny, nothing feels different. Oh well, Sic transit gloria mundi, as we stay around here in these parts. And as Samuel Pepys would say, "And So To Bed".
1362  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 22, 2011, 02:50:11 AM
Finally got my first movie to upload via FM4, then download, then upload to YouTube. Probably not worth the effort  icon_confused:

Update: It's a theme! My jeep on it's back at the Nürburgring GP course.

1363  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 21, 2011, 09:30:58 PM

Quote from: KePoW on October 21, 2011, 08:31:44 PM

Quote from: jztemple2 on October 21, 2011, 07:11:20 PM

Anyone notice that the Peninsula Raceway, which the announcer always mentions is in sunny St Petersburg (FL), is actually shown on their world map about where slightly less sunny Jacksonville is?

I'm pretty sure no one cares about Florida.

You are forever banned from Disney World. So there  slywink
1364  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 21, 2011, 07:11:20 PM
Anyone notice that the Peninsula Raceway, which the announcer always mentions is in sunny St Petersburg (FL), is actually shown on their world map about where slightly less sunny Jacksonville is?
1365  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 19, 2011, 04:05:13 PM
I did a few Rivals Autocrosses last night. Thanks to those who posted their cars to the club garage so I could borrow them  icon_biggrin

I also reached Driver Level 50 (and then 51) so I've gotten all the cars the game is going to give me. I also picked up a few bargains in the Auction House to start filling out my collection.

1366  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 19, 2011, 05:21:48 AM
Anyone else having problems uploading movies from the game? Replays to the Storefront aren't a problem, but when I try to upload a movie it keeps telling me that I already have a movie or big shot there and do I want to overwrite it? I say yes, but after several seconds it comes back and asks me the same question. I have uploaded the "Big Shots" to the website before and downloaded them from there so that doesn't appear to be the issue. I haven't found anything about it on the Forza forums.
1367  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 18, 2011, 08:32:51 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 18, 2011, 08:19:32 PM

Is Fujimi Kaido any different than in Forza 3? 

I don't think so. It seems incredibly tough going uphill, especially from an in-car view (and even worse from a very low height car). And then you start going downhill and think, hey, uphill wasn't this bad  nod
1368  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 18, 2011, 07:49:29 PM
I feel that I can handle anything in the game now. I just completed a one lap race at Fujimi Kaido in an R998 Peugeot. Holy mackerel that was tough icon_eek. With that mostly solid canopy it feels like I'm driving a coffin with a window.

Drifting? You get style points in that, don't you? Like in ice skating? <ducksicon_lol
1369  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 18, 2011, 05:52:29 PM

Quote from: gellar on October 18, 2011, 05:20:34 PM

I don't remember the classes, but specifically the NASCAR Monte Carlo and the Lexus LFA for me were really tough to keep on the road and going fast in the general direction I want to go.  I can't imagine actually trying to race one of those with actual cars that I don't want to plow into.

Are you using the controller or a wheel?

Controller. I've actually gotten pretty good with it. I'm never going to be a record setter, but I'm doing OK, or I should say that I'm doing well enough that I'm enjoying the game, more than FM3. In FM3 I never could deal with the R classes and so never filled in the whole Event Matrix. I think I might be able to do so now.

One other nice change. In FM3, IIRC, there were three AI levels in the Event List events, the middle was too slow and the highest was too fast for me. In FM4 there are four levels and I seem to be competitive with level 3. It's tough enough to be a challenge but not so tough as to be unbeatable. It's very rewarding to win against the AI at that level.
1370  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 18, 2011, 05:17:36 PM
Compared to FM3, I think the driving model for the higher classes is better. "S" class is still scary, but manageable with assists (and not needing "assisted"). And surprisingly I'm finding the R classes easier to drive and I think in part this seems to be because of the spoiler and wings being better represented in the game. Anyway, my current goal is to complete the World Tour, switching manufacturers so that I get an Affinity of at least four with each one so I can play with all the upgrades.

Anyone buy a car with tokens yet? Are you allowed to sell it in the Auction House? I worked out in my mind that getting the two most expensive Ferraris for six tokens (three apiece), then selling them at a cut rate of 1.5M credits off the price of each would net a total of 15M credits. That would buy maybe 150 cars, if you stuck to the lower price ones. Interesting. That's why I figured they might not let you sell them in the auction house.

1371  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 18, 2011, 03:48:11 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 18, 2011, 08:54:12 AM

I also have a grudge versus people using assists, but that's another story slywink

I can run the lower classes without assists, but I have to use the Medicare settings about that.
1372  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 17, 2011, 07:29:36 PM
I posted a Veyron 16.4 to the club garage. I know we already have one, but this one has a spoiler and wing to get some more downforce and I also tuned it using the Forzatune app. That app still is for Forza 3 and I don't know how good it is anyway, but what the heck. Also I tried to stay within the R800 class so I had to make the car heavier than what I desired so I could load it up with all the adjustable parts. Frankly I'm still a disaster when I drive it, but maybe in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing it might be a bit better than the stock Veyron. Anyway, it was fun playing with the tuning!  icon_biggrin
1373  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 15, 2011, 09:30:31 PM

Quote from: KePoW on October 15, 2011, 05:21:51 PM

Quote from: jztemple2 on October 15, 2011, 01:57:20 PM

I've had to give in and turn on assists once I'm up to the "A" and higher classes, even if it is just setting the steering to Normal. And it depends on the car of course. Turns out the Ferrari 365 GTB isn't all that good at going downhilll on Fujimi Kaido trying to dodge slower cars while chasing an opponent. Apparently the only brakes I have come off a bicycle or something  icon_eek.

I love that type of race... the one where you have to beat 1 opponent through constant traffic.  Really makes for a fun change of pace in the career mode.

I'm starting to warm up to them as well. Just took an Aston Martin through a sector of the 'Ring, dodging traffic. Makes for some interesting split-second decisions. Must be like track days at the real Ring, except the consequences are less expensive  icon_biggrin

Stepping up to the A600 cars has been a challenge that having just the Normal steering assist hasn't answered. However, with Stability on the car is still a challenge to drive but not so insane. I'm still enjoying the hell out of the game.

Also, I've changed the price to all items on my Storefront to free. I never would make that many credits anyway and this way people might pick them up for the hell of it.
1374  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 15, 2011, 01:57:20 PM
I've had to give in and turn on assists once I'm up to the "A" and higher classes, even if it is just setting the steering to Normal. And it depends on the car of course. Turns out the Ferrari 365 GTB isn't all that good at going downhilll on Fujimi Kaido trying to dodge slower cars while chasing an opponent. Apparently the only brakes I have come off a bicycle or something  icon_eek.
1375  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 14, 2011, 03:50:42 AM
I added some more cars to the club garage and then used the Search and Sort by Model list to see if there were any duplicates, which is seems there is not. Let me know if there are any.

I ran the Ferrari P330 at Infinion. I tried to keep all assists off, but crimminity that is an insane car. Even with ABS, TCS, stability and normal steering turned on it was all over the place. And I thought someone was continuously bumping into me till I realized it was the backfire from the exhausts  icon_eek.

Oh and I also took a Veyron around the 'Ring, again with assists on (but not the "assisted" settings, I do have standards slywink). That car could use some better brakes. Or maybe a drag chute. Or retrorockets.
1376  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 14, 2011, 01:10:48 AM
And regarding Hark....  cars have been placed in the club garage.

1377  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 14, 2011, 12:46:23 AM
Since Kato will eventually beat my times once again, I thought it appropriate to repaint the Ford Ka in the club garage:

1378  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 13, 2011, 11:26:42 PM
Heads up from the Turn 10 team! Corrupt Save Message Details:
Quote
It has recently come to our attention that some of you may be receiving a corrupt save message when trying to save a file. This could happen with tunes, replays, paints or photos. While we are working on this issue please follow the steps below.

The Message: Your save file is corrupt. Please delete it from the Xbox Dashboard and create a new one.

If you receive the message above when trying to save a file please follow these directions:

    Go to the Xbox Dashboard.
    Move to My Xbox then scroll to the right and select “System Settings”.
    From inside System Settings select “Memory” then select the location where your game saves are located (for most people this will be on the hard drive).
    Scroll down the list until you find Forza Motorsport 4.
    From inside the Forza Motorsport 4 memory saves, you want to select the file that was corrupted. In most cases the file you are looking for will say “Corrupted” and have “!” next to it.


NOTE: PLEASE DO NOT DELETE your Game Save, If you do, you will lose all your game progress. Here is a list of the naming structure of your Forza Motorsport 4 saves:

(Your Gamertag) Saved Game – DO NOT DELTE THIS FILE. This is your main game save file and should only be deleted as a last resort.

(Your Gamertag) Car Setup Files Saved Game - These are your Tune Files.

(Your Gamertag ) PHOTOS Saved Game – This is all of your saved photos.

(Your Gamertag) LAYER GROUPS Saved Game – These are all of your created and purchased layer group files.

(Your Gamertag) Design Catalog Saved Game – These are all of your created and purchased car designs.

(Your Gamertag) Replays Saved Game – This save contains all our your saved replay info.

(Your Gamertag) WMV MOVIES Saved Game – This save contains all our your saved movies.

GHOSTS Saved Game  – This is where your best time ghost files are saved locally.

(Your Gamertag) Game Options Saved Game – These are your saved game options.


Turn 10 Community OPS
Forzamotorsport.net
1379  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 13, 2011, 11:12:10 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 13, 2011, 11:02:08 PM

Now you're just false advertising on your latest car temple!  I think unless your time stands for a full day, it doesn't really count  finger

When you're old a few minutes feel like a day  slywink
1380  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 13, 2011, 10:12:39 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 13, 2011, 09:31:33 PM

Had temple ahead of me on that challenge... had to do something about it.  ninja

I did several other rivals races, including Le Mans in an R3 Audi, with no assists (other than braking lines). It's amazing, in FM3 I couldn't get better than a B class car without having to break out the assists. However, then I went to the 'Ring in a Radical SR8 and after several tries I gave in and turned on the assists (but not "assisted"). I *almost* got around without a flag, but then I clipped a curb about two-thirds of the way through and gave in and clipped a few more.

I then tried to beat Hark on Tsukuba. He made an error on the first turn, a slight one, but it inspired me to keep trying over and over again, even though he kept passing me before the lap was halfway done. Sheesh.

This means I'm not spending a lot of time in career mode of course, but there are so many Rivals events it's still interesting.

Oh, and keep your damn cars off my lawn!!!  icon_lol
1381  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 13, 2011, 07:32:38 PM
Kato and I have been battling each other on the Rivals Starter Car event (the Top Gear East Circuit). I just beat him and to celebrate I painted my car appropriately and uploaded it to the club garage:

1382  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 13, 2011, 06:49:42 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 13, 2011, 06:11:53 PM

Before you share a car in the club garage please check to see if the same car is already there.  There is no reason to have 2 of the same car both with stock settings in the garage.  I'm in the process of removing the dups right now.  It just clutters things up.

You're right Hark, I did add some dups, sorry about that. I guess the only case where that would be useful is if they were tuned or altered in their PI. Or if they look pretty  slywink. I'm going to post to Turn 10 that it would be a nice feature to have a button that scans a club's garage and points out any true duplicates.

One significant change I've come across is in the Event List, that matrix of boxes of Events that each might hold several races. In FM3 if you completed all races in an event you got a bonus, but not now in FM4. So except for bragging rights, there's no need to grind through all the races in an Event Box for some additional bonus. I think this goes nicely with reaching Affinity 4 for a manufacturer and getting free upgrades. There is less reason to go grinding through event after event just to make money to upgrade cars.

I've added a Toyota MR2 to the garage with some club GTF design. Also posted the picture to my Storefront.
1383  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 13, 2011, 06:41:53 PM

Quote from: USMC Kato on October 13, 2011, 05:44:54 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 13, 2011, 12:14:44 AM

That picture is amazing.  That's just for the photo export feature, right?  The game doesn't look that good?

+1, looks really impressive.  At least someone in our club has some art talent  icon_biggrin  I'll be putting that design in my cars from now on

Actually I just am using what vinyls are available. The real artists are the guys who recreate scenes from Star Wars or The Godfather using hundreds of layers. I'm in awe of those guys. I do like to put something on the cars and putting the club name on there isn't too hard.
1384  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 13, 2011, 12:36:26 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 13, 2011, 12:14:44 AM

That picture is amazing.  That's just for the photo export feature, right?  The game doesn't look that good?
I would say that in-game it's not quite that pretty, but it's still quite nice. Frankly I never paid that much attention, I'm usually trying not to crash into something icon_biggrin.

Quote
What does the 700 or 660 stand for?  Is that the horsepower?
The number is the Performance Index, a composite rating so that you can compare cars.

Gamestop has posted a Forza 4 Free Reward Cars Price Guide to help you decide which reward car to select when offered several. I have noticed that I have been offered cars I already have, usually imported from FM3, the game (FM4) doesn't indicate that you already have that car.
1385  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 12, 2011, 11:52:10 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 12, 2011, 10:40:50 PM

it's 660, yet says 700 on the side? icon_twisted

S class is limited to 700 (at least it was in FM3). I had made up vinyl badges in FM3 for each class so I could by a glance see what class it was. I even had these badges posted on my storefront and sold a number of them. I got the idea from the FM3 strategy guide which used them in several places. I probably should post them on my FM4 storefront.

UPDATE: The one disappointment was that there isn't a rear wing for the DeLorean, just a small spoiler. I so wanted a big honking rear wing on it.
1386  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 12, 2011, 09:54:41 PM

Quote from: skystride on October 12, 2011, 09:41:58 PM

Is painting pretty much the same as before?  It would be nice if you could do some work in photoshop and upload it for use in Forza.

It's as far as I can tell exactly like before. No upload from the web that I can tell.

Oh, and I've also upgraded the DeLorean in the club garage to a S660 and updated the design to reflect the club name. Because, you know, race car.


1387  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 12, 2011, 08:15:25 PM
I've added a club GTF vinyl to my Storefront (for free  icon_wink) for those who wish to add it to their vehicles. It's very basic, since that's the kind of artist I am nod.
1388  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 12, 2011, 07:38:51 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 12, 2011, 03:14:03 PM

Some challenges require a standing start.

Sheesh, I haven't practiced good standing starts with the manual tranny that much. Another day, another Challenge!
1389  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 12, 2011, 02:36:43 PM

Quote from: Clanwolfer on October 12, 2011, 02:11:10 PM

I must, must, MUST get back into driving manual - I tried the Top Gear challenge a few times, and just could not get off the line fast enough to beat Hark's ghost.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment, but usually it's the the second and subsequent flying laps where you score your best times. I found it so critical to get off the last turn smoothly so as to get the power down in order to get the best lap. And to beat Hark it had to be a clean lap which is much harder and especially on the Top Gear track.
1390  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 12, 2011, 01:55:12 AM
Shame that Thrustmaster isn't making this wheel for the 360. It would go great with my F1 2011 game as well as FM4.

1391  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 11:45:16 PM
I finally beat Hark on the Top Gear Rivals challenge, assisted in part that it was an "F" class event and partly because I drove over a dozen laps watching his ghost. And partly I'm sure because he was eating lunch or working a crossword puzzle or something like that. The only assist I had on was the braking zone line. I still need that when driving so many cars. I also had on Rewind, but since using it would have invalidated the lap, I probably should have turned it off. Silly me.

I don't know if it's the Pirelli input or some clever coding, but with TCS, ABS and Stabilty Control turned off even driving an F class is amazing fun. I'm using a standard 360 controller and it works just fine.
1392  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 08:14:25 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 11, 2011, 07:55:01 PM

My current plan is to buy or select as the reward a car from each manufacturer and then get to affinity 4 before I start tweaking.  4 is very fast and free is awfully good.  One of the devs had mentioned they want people spending their money on cars and paint/decals/setups and not on parts.

Sounds good to me. Probably should spend my time with manufacturers that have more than one car, like DMC  slywink
1393  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 07:45:09 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 11, 2011, 07:26:09 PM

I'm excited and happy to report that multiplayer online racing provides big paydays, even when you don't place high.  F2 did it right, but F3 did not.

I got 8k after a 3 lap race even after 4k damages were subtracted.  I came in 5th.  That's better money than most career matches so far.

This is good because I see I can't hire a driver in Event List races. Bummer, some of those endurance events were very long.

Also it turns out I can't share a car with the club if it has locked decals from someone else on it. Also bummer, as I was trying to share my Binford Tools Delorean.

UPDATE: This appears to be new. Once you get a high enough affinity with a manufacturer,  all upgrade parts are FREE, even for other cars you might buy from them.
1394  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 06:35:20 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 11, 2011, 06:03:56 PM

Right now Kato and Clanwolfer can both invite and accept invite requests as well.

I requested through Kato. I just finished the First World Tour Championship with my Vauxhall (sponsored by MTV) which included knocking down oversized bowling pins on the Top Gear test track  Roll Eyes
1395  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 05:47:12 PM
I see one significant change from FM3. You can now buy cars not only with in-game credits but also with tokens purchased with Microsoft Points. One token is 80 MSP, six are 400 MSP and thirteen are 800 MSP. Most cars seem to go for one token. The most expensive car I could find, the Ferrari 250 GTO at ten million credits, is available for three tokens. Others might disagree, but I think this is a smart move on the part of MS and Turn 10. Totally optional, but for the car collector probably worth the extra shekels.
1396  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 05:23:52 PM
I didn't sell mine either, thankfully.

Right now I'm downloading the Bonus Track Pack, which is the High Speed Benchmark Ring and the Top Gear Soccer Field, which is for MP.
1397  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 05:14:12 PM
For my six million credits in FM3 I got gifted sixty thousand in FM4, so it's not a big deal. I did get about seven million credits worth of gifted cars because I owned them in FM3, and because I was an FM3 VIP, I also got three other cars. And I haven't even entered all my codes yet. I was also able to transfer all my vinyls from FM3, including ones I had gotten through other folks storefront. And right now I'm downloading a BMW M5 available for free from the Turn 10 access area in game. I'm not sure how I got there, but I'll post once I figure it out.

UPDATE: It's under Marketplace, on the far right of the vertical selection bars.
1398  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 04:33:26 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 11, 2011, 03:59:17 PM

Don't forget to install disk 2 from inside the game fwiw, don't install it outside the game.  It's the same procedure as F3 and installing from the dash will mess it up.

Wow, thanks for reminding me. I had forgot that about FM3 and I'm installing disc 1 right now.
1399  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 02:01:43 PM

Quote from: Reemul on October 11, 2011, 12:35:03 PM

I am a bit disappointed that I deleted my save game to start over and so I won't be getting any imports, not the end of the world but still a shame.

Luckily I've kept mine as I'm still occasionally playing Forza 3. It's weird that it wasn't till four days ago that I even saw a mention about rolling over the old game data. I have seen since then that you will get some amount of credits depending on the credits you had in FM3, and FM4 will bring over your created vinyls and (maybe) your designs. I'm not sure on the latter, it was a bit vague.

I'm off in a few minutes to Gamestop to pick up my copy, hopefully it will be there Roll Eyes
1400  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Forza 4 on: October 11, 2011, 02:28:31 AM
Anyone pre-order the LCE from Best Buy? Because Best Buy let people order more copies than Best Buy is going to get, and they are canceling some of the pre-orders.  Yikes!

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