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161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 08, 2009, 05:56:23 PM
Gamespot can now longer be trusted with their reviews IMHO. I no longer  have confidence in their reviews. There have been quit a few games in the last 3 months in which they have just about buried that was no where as bad as they made it out to be.
162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 05, 2009, 05:51:20 PM

Quote from: hepcat on April 05, 2009, 03:18:24 PM

i ran over to target this morning as they're having a sale on "buy 1, get 1 half off" on some 360 games...and Godfather 2 is listed.  I had hoped to get online with a copy and cause you all great jealousness a la juniordan.  unfortunately, i was thwarted by their observance of the street date.   icon_frown

Why cant I get confirmation on this sale you talk of at Target? Its not online or the Sunday paper. I would love to get Halo Wars and H.AW.K.S for $90.
I wish they would answer the DAMN phone.
163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 05, 2009, 03:13:37 PM
Quote
The Don view does add another layer to the game and if abused can make the game way too easy and the game doesn't seem that difficult to begin with.
You beat me to it....I was about to say I now have 6 made men that been lvl up to medium status you can say. I am now sending them out in teams of 3 to take over business and fronts. I am now flying through these maps now. Sometimes I will go solo on side missions and let my two 3 man teams go out on there own. When I complete my task I may or may not assist any of whom seemed to be taking to long, or if the rival Don sent reinforcements of his own made men.
There are incentives to owning all of a particular front such as Bulletproof vest, Double daily income, Incendiary bullets and the list goes on. The rival Dons will just Bomb your businesses at this point, especially if they are low on made men. Haveing just one of the businesses out of commission will render the perk useless until it is repaired (there is a perk for quick repairs too).
164  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 05:24:22 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on April 03, 2009, 04:34:19 PM

Quote from: JuniorDan on April 03, 2009, 03:37:49 PM

1)Pop in, pop ins, pop ins. Remember GTAIII  Cars here one second and gone the other

3)I am in Florida and the hits on my business are increasing 10 folds in New York New Dons are trying to take over. Now I am sending Made men (out of the 3 I currently have) over there to defend because the goons guarding aint crap. While I am running solo in Miami on missions some of which I need the expertise of a made man that's defending a front NY. He cant be pulled out until it is over and it can be a while.  I hope This is where the under Boss will be assisting me soon.

those were my two big worries.  the pop in issue has me leaning towards the PC version, since the PC didn't have the GTA pop in issue (or it was fixed at some point as when I played GTA3 last year there wasn't any pop in), and the need to worry about properties in various cities isn't too appealing.  IIRC the first Godfather game didn't have that unless you instigated a gang war.

I dont understand why you think it will not be an issue with the PC versions...It coming out on the same day it may get fix before the actual launch day but I doubt it. Reason is yesterday when I first put it it there was already an update for the game.

Informational interviews
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/adventure/thegodfatherii/videos.html?mode=interviews
165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 03:37:49 PM
What I don't mind but you may not like about the game that I've seen so far.
  • 1)Pop in, pop ins, pop ins. Remember GTAIII  Cars here one second and gone the other
  • 2)Your Made men have the ability to "telerport" This must have been put in to counter act any path finding issues. I am also suspect on some of the bad guys to. There is no explanation why I would get attack from a room I just cleared. The good news is they are not spawning guys because there is a set amount guarding the place, you will know this from your Don view.
  • 3)I am in Florida and the hits on my business are increasing 10 folds in New York New Dons are trying to take over. Now I am sending Made men (out of the 3 I currently have) over there to defend because the goons guarding aint crap. While I am running solo in Miami on missions some of which I need the expertise of a made man that's defending a front NY. He cant be pulled out until it is over and it can be a while.  I hope This is where the under Boss will be assisting me soon.
  • 4)The cops stars ramp up mad quick (Patch needed) for some petty ass crimes. I got call out by a witness for beating up a guy (side mission) while escaping my made men started shooting at a cop car that was giving chase. In no time I had 4 stars FBI and the entire Police force boxing me in.  littered the car with bullets, blown it up  injuring my made men and arresting me. I did not stand a chance. 
    When your Made men are injured they are out for 12hours.
  • 5)need to add the ability to role with goons when your valuable made men is indisposed Jail, hospital, prison. You may ask cant you hire another one? yes you can but will you If I just spent 30Gs upgrading them? to start over with someone new for another 30G's?

166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 02:57:11 PM
For the Godfather movie lovers. Unlike part 1 This is Not part of the Movie.
The Godfather II game goes beyond the film's story by setting players in the world of organized crime in 1960's Florida, Cuba and New York.
After being promoted by Michael Corleone to Don of New York, players expand to new cities, as they build up their families through extorting businesses, monopolizing illegal crime rings and defeating new families in an effort to become the most powerful mob family in America. To help players manage their empire, The Godfather II introduces "The Don's View" - an innovative strategy meta-game that allows players to oversee the entire world as they grow the family business. Using the Don's View, players will be able to build, defend and expand their crime rings, while keeping an eye on the movements and plans of the rival families. Players will also learn to master the business of organized crime by building a family of Made Men, hiring crew, handing out orders, and promoting their best men up the ranks.

Quote from: Caine on April 03, 2009, 03:01:26 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on April 03, 2009, 02:32:57 AM

nobody thinks you pirated furreal. we're just mad cause you gots it and we don't.

this.   + a billion

now, get back to the impressions, you lucky bastage

how well do the black hand controls seem now?  new moves?  what have you seen so far that ties into the movie?  (not too specific of course)

damn my luck, but i just know i won't be able to find this around me until next week.


The Black hand controls seemed a lot more exciting in the first game now that you mention it. I can grab, shake, head bot, Knee to the body, strangle with bare hands & thump (not Punch) Thump in the face. I am having a hard time bashing heads to the tables, wall or nearby items. I could be just doing it wrong.

New Moves?????
The Movie?????

I am sorry but its been sometime for me since the last game and even longer for the movie. I don't think this have any ties to the move at all.
The whole family tree and Don control is new but you all already know this.

Black hand capabilities seems to be an upgrade I have to learn so there maybe more to it than I first stated. There are various finishing moves you can perform.

167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 02:34:21 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on April 03, 2009, 02:18:32 PM

Quote from: JuniorDan on April 03, 2009, 02:09:43 PM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on April 03, 2009, 01:43:45 PM

Is the language rough in this one?  I just want to know whether or not I'll have an issue playing this around my wife (violence aside).

Yes, on the language. The nudity is up by 200% of that in all the GTA series combined. It feels like 75% or the rackets are strip joints. I whacked a guy beating down a lady in her birthday suit in an ally. Why she was naked in the first place? I don't have a clue. May have been an attempted rape, but the nudity is huge.

See...now they're losing me. There were a few swear words in the original and IIRC there were a few women in underwear...

Yeah...sorry there boobs every where they put lace-granny-panties to cover the "P" if that helps
168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 02:29:16 PM

Quote from: skystride on April 03, 2009, 02:06:00 PM

Will someone who doesn't like GTA and most GTA type games (except Mafia) and loves the Godfather movies like this game?  I didn't play the first one.

Its hard for me to answer that because its so much like GTA with so much more control that you don't want to class it with GTA. IF you ever played Gangsters 1 or 2 this is the 3D version of that game.  
169  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 02:09:43 PM

Quote from: Eco-Logic on April 03, 2009, 01:43:45 PM

Is the language rough in this one?  I just want to know whether or not I'll have an issue playing this around my wife (violence aside).

Yes, on the language. The nudity is up by 200% of that in all the GTA series combined. It feels like 75% or the rackets are strip joints. I whacked a guy beating down a lady in her birthday suit in an ally. Why she was naked in the first place? I don't have a clue. May have been an attempted rape, but the nudity is huge.
170  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 03:57:58 AM

Quote from: Pharaoh on April 03, 2009, 03:53:56 AM

Ya sorry, it was completely jokey, like Arggghhh and everything. I didn't mean it like "You god-damn thief!"

lol  ninja
171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 03:42:32 AM

Quote from: Caine on April 03, 2009, 03:01:26 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on April 03, 2009, 02:32:57 AM

nobody thinks you pirated furreal. we're just mad cause you gots it and we don't.

this.   + a billion

now, get back to the impressions, you lucky bastage

how well do the black hand controls seem now?  new moves?  what have you seen so far that ties into the movie?  (not too specific of course)

damn my luck, but i just know i won't be able to find this around me until next week.

The Black hand controls seemed a lot more exciting in the first game now that you mention it. I can grab, shake, head bot, Knee to the body, strangle with bare hands & thump (not Punch) Thump in the face. I am having a hard time bashing heads to the tables, wall or nearby items. I could be just doing it wrong.

New Moves?????
The Movie?????

I am sorry but its been sometime for me since the last game and even longer for the movie. I don't think this have any ties to the move at all.
The whole family tree and Don control is new but you all already know this.
172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 03, 2009, 01:56:50 AM
Woohoo I got lucky again..... Um I don't Pirate. Why can't I know people in high places.
This is the real deal, stop trying to put a brother down I strongly support game developers.


173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / The GodFather 2 Impression on: April 02, 2009, 09:33:38 PM
Got this for the 360 I owned the first one for PC and never played the console versions. So far the controls are smooth and fluent the aiming is on point with the LT to lock and RT to Shoot. The first Gun I got was some 1944 pistol that took forever to kill.
The driving so far seems realistic in a way but the vehicle I currently have seems rough on corners. This game is deep as far as managing you crew and business well for business you basically put up to a set amount of guards there to protect the place. At a $100 buck per person I find myself balancing between my income and guards. Also its pushing me to extort the Max amount out of businesses to cover expenses.
I am in charge of who to HIT to what my crew wears. As I play more I will give more information about the game, as for now I am only getting my feet wet.

COUPLE MORE HOURS OF PLAY
The core mechanics of the game is still there along with the Ability to give orders from a map you pull up with the start button. You choose your mobsters through an interview process "what do u do" "tell me about your self" and there is more info via what seems to be a Resume.
The side missions comes from the common people on the street from Key informant to missions to killing a husband or wife so they can move in. There are a-lot of demented people out there. You have a choice to refuse any of there missions, but some may require you to have the right people to complete it alla Demolition exp. Safe Cracker ect.
Witnesses are part of the game also beating someone up on the street, running over peds. or even extorting a store will alarm passerby's to run to a pay phone and call the cops on you.

Unlike the past GF when you pull up the map you only see a small part of the city, I am at the first Mob still but so far its focusing on one gang right now. May still be the get your feet wet missions. either way its enough for now because it is\can get overwhelming if it was not for the game\Boss giving directions.

I like how you have to work the streets for information to the location of the enemy head soldiers in that family's tree to weaken that Family ability to effectively run the streets. Because as the game said everything you can do to them they can do to you. For now I keep my soldiers close to me and spend more on goons to defend my fronts. I will soon have to seek out a new strategy as my Family tree gets bigger, 3 seems to be the max you can take with you for now. I must add to send your message to your rival families you must execute their soldiers in a specific way, Shot between the eyes, Chocking, thrown off a building and so on.

This game is lots of fun and a crap load to do. This is a perfect mix of GTA, SaintsRow2, & GangStars2.

Quote
This is already out? I thought it wasn't until next week?
saywhat Are you sure it comes out next week? 

 
174  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wheelman (360) - Launch Impressions on: March 26, 2009, 03:15:20 AM
I don't know whats up with IGN but the game is a lot of fun, I liked the demo enough to make the game a day one purchase and I am enjoying every moment of it. With in the first hour and a half of game play I have on locked most of the ability we got in the demo and a series of Garages, Weapons Cashes, and many more. There are upgrades to attacks, weapons, car attacks and abilities to be had, from what I've seen up to LVL 15 for most of the upgradeable stuff, about 25 lines including 10 side missions (could be more).

I did do some run and gun missions and it's not bad at all, simple at best but effective enough. RT to aim, LT to shoot, and B to take cover behind objects. What about that Air jacking? woohoo I can get enough of it. The game is fun at best GTA + Burnout + pursuit force + stuntman. I would rate it 8.7
175  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Do you use the Calendar Function at GT? on: March 16, 2009, 10:10:47 PM
 saywhat  Didn't know it existed
176  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (3/16) on: March 16, 2009, 10:08:53 PM
Nothing....Hell I still got my shrinkwraped RE5 sitting here can justify another game right now.
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Finish the sentence: I wish that the PS3... on: March 14, 2009, 04:59:24 PM
.....Did not break 2months after I got it, especially on the week of Killzone2  disgust
178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Star Ocean : The Last Hope HELP!! (Spoilers} on: March 09, 2009, 02:35:51 AM
So far I have been breezing through the game with no issues. But after returning to  PLANET Aoes on disc two to investigate the lost of contact with the base. I find every thing on my way to the south much harder than anything the game have thrown at me, but worst of all those waves of cloaked people are the game stoppers for me. What lvl should I be at when entering this fight? Or is there some sort of weapon or spell I should have?
179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: POS PS3 on: March 06, 2009, 11:02:39 PM
Well for some reason I taught the warranty was for 60day but Sony said its a year. So my Coffin rescue box is on its way and sony said the whole process should take ''5 days". Seeing is believing., but so far Sony seems to have my back. 
180  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / POS PS3 on: March 06, 2009, 04:48:45 AM
Just a little over 2 months now of having my ps3 the POS already has to go back to sony due to the disk\BLUERAY not being read. DVD and CD works just fine but not the games. I actually did not buy the extended warranty on the system because my day 1 PSOne and PS2 is still playable to this day. I was just building the library for it too.   disgust

181  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: AT&T's U-verse UPDATE! UPDATE! FINAL UPDATE... on: February 25, 2009, 02:32:41 AM

Quote from: coopasonic on February 24, 2009, 08:19:50 PM

The one thign I noticed immediately when I switched from Time Warner to Uverse was that the SD looks great. On Time Warner I could tell instantly if my wife was watching an SD channel (a no-no in my house!), but with Uverse SD looks nearly as good as HD.

I have to give them that but on the flip side anything that was not meant to be the focus of attention looked extra horrid.. example I was watching a basketball game on uverse, the court and players looked great the side bench and beyond was all faceless people, same game in HD no problem. it was the digital pixilation thing that the internet does. 
182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Got kicked out of Gamestop today! on: February 24, 2009, 05:48:48 AM
I don't know,,,,I am a bit suspicious of your story........I believe after she handed him the pS2 he asked her for her personal information (name, address, phone number) before giving her the money. That is when GameStop employees had to get involved.

Yeah....I think my version makes you look more pimp...
183  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: AT&T's U-verse UPDATE! UPDATE! on: February 24, 2009, 05:27:19 AM
Well thanks to you guys I am now a proud owner of a DTV Slim Line Dish. with 1 HDDVR, 1 STDVR, & 3 ST Receivers. Best of all no more fighting over the TV's everybody is happy. HDTV Galore I love it.

I just have one unrelated question, You know how G4 aka techTV be on top all the new gadgets and games and cutting edge stuff............SO WHY THE FLIPPING HELL THEY NOT IN HD YET?????

To end on a better note Spike TV never looked so good MMA in HD for the win....

Thanks Guys     

edited:
Installation took one guy 4hrs with everything perfect.
ATT  13hrs 3guys buy the end of the installation, then finding out about the limitations.

ATT said I am responsible for mailing the converter boxes back to them, do you all think I will be a jerk if I sent them back in the DirectTV boxes  icon_twisted? icon_twisted 
184  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (2/23) on: February 24, 2009, 05:10:47 AM
Killzone 2 foo shoo..I am however interested in Star Ocean and 50 Cents Blood Sweat Sand and what ever else 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand. I may get 2 this week since it looks like Halo Wars got a 6.5 from GS, Will rent instead.


edited to add the correct name.
185  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: AT&T's U-verse on: February 17, 2009, 06:24:08 AM
Well after 3weeks of U-Verse is seems like this is not right for my family. Some things that was not mentions until the installation was near completion.
1) I am limited to 4 TVs being viewed at one time 1HD and 3SD the 4th 5th tv have to watch a prerecording or one of the 3 stations the other boxes are on. This is due to the 4 streams limit, HD uses 2 of those streams.

2) The two other HD TVs I plan on buying next month will be useless with U-verse.
a) My wife is always recording something, if its in HD then that leave either 2SD tvs or 1HD tv that can be used.

3) The playback from any room is a swell idea, however you cant pause or rewind any tv other than the one with the DVR.

4) To schedule a recording you have to be at the DVR or have a computer in front of you to do so. It never worked on my iphone.

5) I have 4 kids with 4 different personalities, the fussing on who need to give up a program is ridiculous.

So I am about to call it quits with U-verse, I do plan on keeping the Internet service 18Mb is good enough for me.

So here are my options DirectTV, Dish Network, or Cable? What should I know? What is your personal experience with what you have?
I am leaning more to DirectTV but I am concerned about the cloud cover we get her during the summer months in Orlando FL,

Att is a great company I have cell service with them for 15 faitfull years now that is why I was so easily swayed to U-verse (Brand Loyalty)  disgust do feel the the service will improve over time but for now I need something that will satisfy my family needs and the wallet.
Uverse future bill $191.00 with internet u200pkg
Comcast past bill $181.00 with internet ultimate pkg
DirectTV Quote $65.00 for one year 200HDDVR pkg + $65.00 with HS internet from ATT = $130.00


186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So...Killzone 2? on: February 05, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
I hated the controls and now I am not as excited for the game as I was before. I will still get it but I felt like I was playing a budget version of GoW with horrendous controls.  disgust
187  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / IE 7 Vista need help on: February 03, 2009, 06:12:37 PM
I am working on a vista Home Basic computer that I am having an issue with IE or Fire Fox getting on the internet. I can ping sites, do win.updates, zune connects and the OS cant seem to see any internet connection issues. I did everything from reseting IE to renaming the host files and LKGC. only to have the issue come back after one or two reboots. I am currently doing all the win updates on it but I still cant get on the net with a browser. can anyone help please.
188  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Mr. Pres First day in the office. on: January 21, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PqI12R8YNU&eurl=http://community.allhiphop.com/go/thread/view/12471/13042649/Obama_Single_Ladies_Remix


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-yJBsjatW0&annotation_id=annotation_960344&feature=iv

189  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: looks like 1up and EGM aren't any more on: January 07, 2009, 03:59:32 AM
what UGO?
190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 - A Sinking Ship? on: December 21, 2008, 09:09:24 AM
I reluctantly purchased one today for my son Xmas gift. I have been tying for weeks to talk him out of it but he called around and collected well over 700 buck from family to buy it. Hope he is not disappointed. 
191  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: AT&T's U-verse on: December 21, 2008, 08:06:52 AM

Quote from: naednek on December 21, 2008, 02:22:28 AM

Go here

http://global.synapsegroup.com/att/uverse/

then go to the channel directory tab (2nd to last).

What happened to CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC are they the local listings? and in HD?
192  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: AT&T's U-verse on: December 21, 2008, 12:37:43 AM

Quote from: naednek on December 21, 2008, 12:28:38 AM

you should be pleased.  I've had it since March 08, and since then they have upgraded my internet speeds to the next level, gave me THDVR, the ability to track my Fantasy Football through their TV service, all without any rate increases.

Could you help me then? I cant find a DAMN channel line up anywhere. I chose the u100pkg but I thing I should have went with the U200pkg is there a link you know of with the channels?
193  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / AT&T's U-verse UPDATE! UPDATE! FINAL UPDATE... on: December 21, 2008, 12:09:48 AM
After years of complaining about and threatening to leave Comcast cable. I ve finally did it, well sought of. While getting my wifes xmas gift I****e
I was introduced to this new service "AT&T's U-verse" Sounds pretty good, almost to good to be real, but the price is where I want to be for cable. So I am going to give it a try. My connection date is the 8th of next month, I will give you my taught and review then.

Some of the features that sold me other than the fact that my wife can set here DVR recording from her I****e from any where:
http://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/U-verse_Features.pdf
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=5838

194  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The 360 survival rate thread on: December 11, 2008, 04:49:04 AM
# of 360s .....7
all returned at GS for newer units.
each coasted me an extra $50.00 for new insurance because I cant wait for MS to repair  disgust
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Finish the sentence: I wish that the 360... on: December 08, 2008, 02:17:36 AM
...Would not raise my Blood pressure every time I go to power it on.. (RROD flash backs)
196  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jasper is on the market..... on: December 02, 2008, 01:21:30 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 01, 2008, 10:49:45 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 01, 2008, 08:01:21 PM

Quote from: farley2k on December 01, 2008, 07:35:41 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on December 01, 2008, 07:26:20 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 01, 2008, 07:08:03 PM

In unrelated news, the Grammar Nazi in my would like to ask that the comma in the Subject line gets removed.

Ah, the sweet, sweet irony....

Well they did say grammar not spelling.

Spelling would imply that there's a misspelled word there, which there isn't.  Those keys have "rt" between them.  I see a syntax error, which falls under grammar.  There's either a word being misused or a word missing.

In other news, Bullwinkle is my new nemesis.  slywink

Yeah, we've butted heads a bit today, but I give you this one, for sure.  I'm an idjit.

Typos do happen especially on a cellphone.
197  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Jasper is on the market..... on: November 29, 2008, 06:36:39 PM
Maybe they will replace the RROD units as they coming in stead of repairing them they will get replaced with a quality unit...maybe.
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/691359/Jasper_Xbox_360_Spotted.html
198  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Xbox Experience on: November 22, 2008, 04:19:45 AM

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on November 21, 2008, 11:25:37 PM



Why fight it?

every time I see your 360mii I feel the urge to say "Herculie, Hercules, Hercules"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMwMjD5PiuM&feature=related

199  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: November 05, 2008, 05:52:02 AM

Quote from: Daehawk on November 05, 2008, 05:35:28 AM

Would'nt surprise me if he is shot. But his vp is even worse. Kinda sad that this will likely be McCain's last run at it. Dont want anyone killed but you know he has got to think about that.

If that was to happen I don't think America\Americans will ever be respected in the the world as The Great Nation deserving of respect that is already being drawn away form us. It will be our lowest point ever\Nail in our coffin... Lets not discuss this again...
200  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: November 05, 2008, 04:54:47 AM
I have never been so proud of my country and state of Florida we got it right........
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