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8801  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: May 01, 2008, 07:54:24 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on May 01, 2008, 07:33:26 PM

Quote from: disarm on May 01, 2008, 01:16:44 AM

anyone else get a little creeped out to be driving around, listening to Liberty Rock Radio, and suddenly hearing the song from 'Silence of the Lambs' that's playing while Buffalo Bill dances around naked?  it's called 'Goodbye Horses' by Q Lazzarus...not a bad song, but caught me a little off guard considering that i associate it with such an odd movie scene...

Hey, that's the same song hepcat plays when he's trying to get me in the moo..................I mean, I think I've heard that song before.   ninja

Look, Aveda is having a sale! Fabulous

It's better than the song that CeeKay makes me play..."The Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round"....

8802  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: May 01, 2008, 07:21:34 PM
thanks wonderpug  i'll stock up before tackling that mission again tonight.
8803  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: May 01, 2008, 07:08:14 PM
Had my first REALLY frustrating mission last night.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Chasing a crime boss' daughter's boyfriend on a motorcycle that apparently is constructed out of balsa wood as every time I fire my damn gun from it in order to try and stop him from getting away, I spin around as if I'm caught in a tornado.

finally just laid down the controller and turned off the 360.  i want to enjoy this game so i'm not going to play it when i'm angry, i've decided.
8804  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 30 Days of Night on: May 01, 2008, 06:55:57 PM

Quote from: rickfc on May 01, 2008, 06:25:47 PM

Quote from: hepcat on May 01, 2008, 04:10:25 PM

I think I enjoyed 30 Days of Night mostly due to having 2 decades of the vampire as emo Robert Smith wannabe shoved down my throat.  It was nice to break out of the Anne Rice mold and see them portrayed as essentially sharks on land.

It's been well more than 2 decades.  Dracula was written in 1897.  smile

i don't recall ol' drac pining away for his mortality, lamenting his need for blood or any of the other goth/emo crap that got stacked onto the mythos in recent years.  the drac in bram's novel slept in dirt, loved killin' and would never have hung out with tom cruise.   icon_wink

plus, the myth of the vampire wasn't started by bram.  there are plenty of variations on the monster in different cultures...and few of them are witty, urbane men about town who love designer clothes and posing on top of gargoyle fixtures 25 stories up at night.

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Like Xander said, " I don't like vampires. I'm going to take a stand and say they're not good."

i always loved that throwaway line from Otto the Bus Driver on The Simpsons, "Hey man, you got any books written from the vampire's point of view?!"

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Also, I was very disappointed to see an actor of Danny Huston's caliber reduced to slumming as the lead bad guy with zero dialogue.

don't watch the proposition then.  he's got minimal dialog in that one, too.  but man does he steal the movie when he does talk.  absolutely loved that film.
8805  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: May 01, 2008, 06:21:46 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 01, 2008, 06:10:26 PM

i will try that Zit,but i have only heard the song while in the club,not on the radio,hopefully it will still work...i have used Zit before,because i wanted to know who sang that 'cry' song.....i cant remember now though,LOL


Godley and Creme ?

...god, i'm such an old guy.  i remember the 80's like it was yesterday   crybaby
8806  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: May 01, 2008, 04:17:13 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 01, 2008, 04:11:28 PM

Quote from: Hiccup on May 01, 2008, 03:54:22 PM

Quote from: hepcat on April 30, 2008, 03:26:45 PM

I spend WAY too much time listening to the europop station, myself. 

Caught myself singing the chorus (as I hear it in the game) "aye aye aye, shitty shitty bang bang" this morning.

This song has been stuck in my head since Tuesday night.  I wish I knew which song it is and who sings it.

Edit: Well, that was easy...Glukoza - "Schweine"

if you dial up Zits it'll tell you what song you are playing.  I forget the number, but it's in the manual in one of the adds.

hmmm...appears you can even buy the mp3 using Zit.  I may have to buy that one so i can annoy my neighbors with repeated listenings.
8807  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 30 Days of Night on: May 01, 2008, 04:10:25 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 01, 2008, 02:15:52 PM

heh, if you had issues with a kid getting whacked then don't go see Aliens vs Predator: Requiem  icon_twisted

actually, as a general rule of thumb, don't go see Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem

Back on topic:  I think I enjoyed 30 Days of Night mostly due to having 2 decades of the vampire as emo Robert Smith wannabe shoved down my throat.  It was nice to break out of the Anne Rice mold and see them portrayed as essentially sharks on land.
8808  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 30 Days of Night on: May 01, 2008, 12:11:09 PM
While not a great horror movie, i thought it was a half decent one.  I enjoyed it and don't regret the matinee price i paid to see it.
8809  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: April 30, 2008, 08:54:31 PM

Quote from: The Grue on April 30, 2008, 08:52:30 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on April 30, 2008, 08:47:35 PM

then watching as he vaguely spoke of his difficult past both helped me to empathize with the character, which helps a great deal when trying to immerse one's self into such a role.

Anyone else playing the game like me where when you start out you only walk places (in other words never car jack) or ever kill a person except for the mission?  I almost feel like he wouldn't just start stirring shit in the city, but instead will fall deeper and deeper into the crime life, slowly but surely.  I just feel that's the way he'd do it and so play the character that way.

so in other words, you're playing this game as if you were a Quaker gangster?
8810  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Medieval Total War II: Best Mods? on: April 30, 2008, 08:40:15 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X on April 30, 2008, 08:32:56 PM

Thanks, hepcat.
I may just get it at $21 and count my loses. Or just wait till it drops again....

If your local target has it, wait at least a few more days.  They drop the prices on that stuff pretty frequently.
8811  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Best sex scene in a movie on: April 30, 2008, 08:39:20 PM

Quote from: Remus West on April 30, 2008, 08:28:28 PM

Quote from: Lassr on April 30, 2008, 08:12:11 PM

Quote from: Remus West on April 30, 2008, 05:42:33 PM

You may not borrow my home movies.

Solo sex scenes do not count either
I set that up this morning and it took until now for someone to go there.  Sheesh.  You people are slow.

In my defense, I've spent the better part of the morning FILMING THE GREATEST GODDAMN SEX SCENE EVER COMMITTED TO FILM AND STARRING ME, ROSE MCGOWAN, NATALIE PORTMAN, AND MS. Elisha Cuthbert!

...and, for some unknown reason, a mostly drunk Terri Hatcher who refuses to keep her top on even though I've promised her scale for doing so.
8812  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Medieval Total War II: Best Mods? on: April 30, 2008, 08:13:14 PM
alas ed, my "go to Target" outside Northbrook was out of stock on the expansion.  A clerk said they might get some from a nearby store as part of some inventory shuffling they do every few weeks, so i'll check back.

8813  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Best sex scene in a movie on: April 30, 2008, 07:50:16 PM

Quote from: TK-421 on April 30, 2008, 07:33:57 PM

What about Caligula?  I've never seen it but I've certainly heard about it.   

The wife and I loved the Rome series on HBO but I'm not sure if Rome and Caligula are even comprable given what I know about the latter.

I've walked out of two films in my lifetime for reasons other than family or job emergencies.  One was Caligula and the other was Andy Warhol's Bad.  The former because I couldn't bear to see Peter O'Toole (who I worship as an acting god) sandwiched in between scenes of a man fisting a horse and two guys giving each other oral gratification in a cubby hole; the latter because it was quite simply one of the most vile pieces of film I've ever had the misfortune of viewing....Uwe Boll aside.
8814  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: April 30, 2008, 03:26:45 PM
I spend WAY too much time listening to the europop station, myself. 

Caught myself singing the chorus (as I hear it in the game) "aye aye aye, shitty shitty bang bang" this morning.
8815  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Best sex scene in a movie on: April 30, 2008, 03:21:30 PM
A friend told me that some movie from a few years ago had a really hot sex scene.  I think it was called "Brokeback Mountain" or something.  I wonder what actresses he was talking about... 
8816  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Reaper (spoilers) on: April 30, 2008, 02:55:40 PM

Quote from: DragonFyre on April 30, 2008, 02:47:19 PM

Last night's episode was fantastic. The show just gets better as the series gets more defined.

Spoiler for Hiden:
"although sadly, it seems they're kicking them to the curb now."

Nope. Seems they're still running with that direction

cool!   i watched the latest episode after writing my previous post so I was quite happy to be proven wrong.
8817  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: April 30, 2008, 01:46:38 PM

Quote from: jblank on April 30, 2008, 12:39:50 PM

Ok, played a bit more and I do have a few complaints.

1. The camera system needs some work. When walking, it is too floaty and doesn't follow the player like it should, 100% of the time. As such, I got REALLY nausious when going after the guy in Vlad the not so terrible, in the construction yard.

2. When fighting or bowling, the button presses don't seem to always responsive. In particular, the bowling, can someone give me the lowdown on exactly HOW you do this?

3. The manual is a joke.

4. The game definitely is a bit on the dark side, and I did have to amp the brightness control from within the game to the max setting.

5. The text is a bit hard to read and the setting on the cell phone to change it, doesn't seem to be changeable.

Other than those things, the game is off the charts good.

I agree the manual is utterly worthless.  I'm assuming it is so because they're trying to get people to buy the strategy guide, which annoys me even more.

As for setting the large text on the phone, I finally got it to work not by clicking A after selecting large text but by selecting B as if I was backing out of the menu.  If I chose A it wouldn't save the setting.  Seems back asswards, if you ask me.   icon_confused
8818  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What's the NEXT Big Game? on: April 30, 2008, 02:50:17 AM
My biggies for this year are:

Fable 2
Fallout 3
Mercenaries 2
Star Wars: Force Unleashed

8819  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Giant Larry Flynt Attacks City on: April 30, 2008, 02:46:22 AM
chaos?

great...property values just fell through the floor.  there goes my plan for a summer home at GT.
8820  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: April 30, 2008, 02:43:20 AM
I need to get online tomorrow night with it.  what's the best way to get into a game with people on your friend's list?  can you invite people from your list like you do with rainbow six or ghost recon?
8821  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Postal: The Trailer on: April 30, 2008, 02:35:14 AM
Oh God, Dave Foley what have they done to you!?!  It's enough to break my heart.

I sat through Battlefield Earth for the comedy value, I rented Bloodrayne because I have an unhealthy fixation on Kristanna Loken, but even I can't imagine what kind of person would willingly sit through THAT.  It was like watching all your childhood dreams being raped by Satan...

8822  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: April 30, 2008, 02:29:10 AM
I put in a marathon 6 hours today and a couple last night as well and no lock ups so far. 

On the 360 i do notice the jaggies on the cars I'm driving.  it's actually pretty pronounced.  however, it's not really diminishing my fun with the game.

8823  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Reaper (spoilers) on: April 30, 2008, 02:26:56 AM
Ray Wise should be forced to play all Satan roles in tv and movies from now, he's that good. 

I think the show's gotten much better than the first few episodes as well.  Sock aka Jack Black Lite has been toned down it seems...either that or my tolerance threshold for him has increased from weekly exposure, Ben has been getting fleshed out as a character (one I actually find funnier than Sock, to be honest...he's just so deadpan), and the introduction of the neighbor demons just took the show in a much needed direction...although sadly, it seems they're kicking them to the curb now. 

The only thing I don't understand is why Sam's weekly superpower seems to have been completely dropped.  For the first few episodes the devil would grant him some superhuman ability to counter the demon he was hunting.  now they never mention anything like that happening.
8824  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: April 30, 2008, 02:21:39 AM

Quote from: Roscoe on April 30, 2008, 12:25:25 AM

There's some object pop-up if you "sneak" up on something like an elevated train pylon,



why in god's name are you sneaking up on elevated train pylons??  do you find that approaching them any other way scares them off?


 Tongue
8825  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: April 29, 2008, 02:27:15 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on April 29, 2008, 02:14:00 PM

You can change the font size I believe, it's on your phone.

thanks hark!  I should know by now to check with you on these things, you've helped me out so many times in the past.   icon_wink

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brought my 360 to work but FORGOT A CONTROLLER.  ARGGGHH!!!!!!!!! 

ill be back...

Where do you work, the "coolest company in history" factory?   icon_biggrin
8826  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Early word on "Iron Man" on: April 29, 2008, 02:24:55 PM
Raimi and Favreau are both brilliant directors.  They know that if a superhero movie is to work you HAVE to get actors in the role who actually know how to act.  Raimi getting Toby on board took some convincing but he eventually got the big wigs in on it and now I can't imagine anyone else playing the role.  Just because it's a movie based on a comic book doesn't mean you have to get out of work soap stars or pretty boys with the personality of cardboard to play the roles (Superman Returns, I'm looking at you).

oh, and Christian Bale.  Don't let me forget him as Batman.  That's three franchises that succeed due to damn fine acting and intelligent writing.  I hope Marvel, now that they're doing their own films, keeps this in mind for future projects.
8827  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Official Official GTA4 impressions thread (impressions here or die) on: April 29, 2008, 02:18:40 PM
waited by the liberty city statue with a bottle of baby oil and a a pair of surgeon's gloves for over an hour last night and no one showed up.   was it the outfit?  maybe i should rethink the whole hot pink cheerleader thing....  crybaby
8828  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Official GTA4 impressions thread on: April 29, 2008, 02:11:01 PM
Picked up my copy at the midnight opening at my local Gamestop.  Ironically, they had a police guard sitting in the parking lot in his car for the whole thing.  

Anyway, got home and popped it into my 360 and played for about 90 minutes or so.  At first I was disappointed because everything was so damn dark that I couldn't see much.  Anytime Nikko would head indoors or under a bridge it became a game of "control the bouncing head" as I couldn't make out anything else.  Finally, after about 30 minutes, I got this BRILLIANT idea to open up the options menu and lo and behold...a brightness setting!  punching myself in the head for being a complete moron, i pumped it up a bit and it looked a thousand times better.   retard

From what I played it is essentially a GTA game in both spirit in execution.  Nothing revolutionary, as some reviewers seem to be saying.  But it's quite fun!  I like that they use the Saints Row waypoint system with the colored line leading you to your destination, and a slightly altered running system from Bully.  Both are welcome additions.

The cars handle a lot more realistically.  I know it frustrates some people but I like it.  I haven't really had much combat yet, but I did get in a fistfight during a mission and accidentally shoved a guy through a 3rd story window.  That was unexpected.  Plus, my jaw almost dropped when I ran over a fire hydrant and water started shooting up into the sky.  That was a nice touch.  I am a bit disappointed in the screen font size.  It's tough to read those dang text messages that come up every now and then from npc's.  I have to get up and walk over to the tv to read most of them.  of course, i'm 122 years old so that may play into it.

speaking of age, it's really sobering to stand in line at a midnight opening for a game, look around, and realize you're old enough to be everyone's father.   icon_frown

p.s. was going to see if any of you other midnight players wanted to do some MP last night but just as I was about to send out invites my damn cable modem dropped my connection.  Didn't come back on for the rest of the night.
8829  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: General Grand Theft Auto IV Thread .... IT'S OUT! but no impressions here! on: April 29, 2008, 01:48:01 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on April 29, 2008, 01:45:29 PM

I decided to be very upfront with my wife.

YK: "Grand Theft Auto 4 comes out tomorrow. It's a game where you can get blowjobs from hookers and then shoot them in the head."

YQ: "Hehe"

YK: "I'm serious. And you can go to strip clubs."

YQ: "Ok, hee hee."

YK: "Ok, laugh all you want but tomorrow night I'm gonna be getting my virtual handjob on from some skanky street ho, and then I'm popping the bitch in the back of the head to get my money back."

YQ: "OK. Just help me clean the house up a little bit first."

the fact that "your wife" in this scenario was played by a sock puppet with hastily applied lipstick and a feather boa wasn't mentioned.... 


 Tongue
8830  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Whats the craziest thing you'ever done drunk? on: April 29, 2008, 01:23:19 AM

Quote from: SpaceLord on April 28, 2008, 08:45:07 PM

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Whats the craziest thing you'ever done drunk?

My ex wife.

whoa...you too!

...


I KID, I KID!
8831  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Do you get pissed off sometimes when gaming? on: April 29, 2008, 12:57:39 AM
I don't get upset during MP usually.  I try to play with folks who have a sense of humor about winning...which, when playing against me, will occur more often than not.  However, I do remember being addicted to C&C: Red Alert MP and getting annoyed frequently when playing people who'd taunt you when they were winning.  One of the sweetest moments in my gaming history came after getting into a match with a guy who had mercilessly teased me in a previous match a few weeks earlier.  I remembered his game name because he had been a complete ass towards me.  Obviously, he didn't remember me as he didn't bring it up during the entire rematch.  Oddly, I won...and when he started bitching that I had somehow or another had an advantage otherwise I wouldn't have won, I typed back using horrible grammar that I had to go because mommy and daddy were yelling it was bed time.  He then asked how old I was and I simply replied:  "6".

8832  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GTA4 impressions thread - midnight approaches/virtual BJs imminent! on: April 29, 2008, 12:50:43 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on April 29, 2008, 12:47:52 AM

Quote from: hepcat on April 29, 2008, 12:43:48 AM

getting my copy at midnight.  will be selling virtual hand jobs near the liberty city statue if anyone wants some late night fun...

how much?  icon_twisted

...and with that, GT became the poor man's version of Craigslist.
8833  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GTA4 impressions thread - midnight approaches/virtual BJs imminent! on: April 29, 2008, 12:43:48 AM
getting my copy at midnight.  will be selling virtual hand jobs near the liberty city statue if anyone wants some late night fun...
8834  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Early word on "Iron Man" on: April 29, 2008, 12:41:00 AM
I'm gonna strap 27 empty campbell's soup cans to each arm and leg, wrap my torso in tin foil and put a metal bucket with eyeholes cut into it on my head and hit up a midnight show. 

...this'll be the like the time I wore an HR Puffenstuff costume to a Star Trek convention and told everyone I was a Gorn.
8835  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: GTA4 impressions thread - stores are receiving them! on: April 28, 2008, 05:44:16 PM

Quote from: kathode on April 28, 2008, 05:33:36 PM

Who wants to bet on how long before Wal-Mart pulls this one from the shelves?

NSFW hooker compilation video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O51l7S7Sx3g#

 icon_eek

that has to be a joke video rockstar made using the engine, right?  i mean...wow...jack thompson's head just exploded somewhere.
8836  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Whats the craziest thing you'ever done drunk? on: April 28, 2008, 01:54:22 PM
About 6 years ago I broke up with a really great gal.  About 3 months after this a friend was visiting and we started downing shots of jager one night.  Well, the discussion turned to what a dope I'd been and how I shouldn't have broken up with this woman.  Around 10pm we decided we were going to make things right and invite her out to party with us.   foregoing a phone call in favor of the personal touch (she didn't live far from my apartment), we took off in a drunken stupor (we were walking to nearby bars, so there was no danger of DUI, by the way).

Once there I rang the front doorbell.  Nobody answered.  In my drunken state I just assumed she was in the back of the house and headed around to the alley behind her place while my friend tagged along.  Seeing that the back gate was locked, I decided to just jump over it and knock on her back window.  This, to a sober person, would've immediately registered as "a bad idea".  However, in my defense, I am an idiot.

So I jump the fence only to fall flat on my rear, tearing my shirt on the fence on my way over it.  Getting up I turned around to realize I'd just leaped into the middle of a BBQ she was having with her family AND her new boyfriend...who appeared to be about ready to tackle my ass. 

The ex calmed him down, walked up to me and said, "What the hell are you doing?".  I brushed off my pants, looked up, and the only thing I could think to say was, "Just wanted to make sure you were okay.  Take care."  then i calmly opened the back gate latch and let myself out.  My friend, still in the alley and having heard everything, didn't say a word....he just started laughing immediately and didn't stop for the next 7 hours.

To this day, whenever I think of that moment, I get chills up and down my spine.  THE single most embarrassing moment of my life.
8837  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: General Grand Theft Auto IV Thread .... best game ever confirmed on: April 28, 2008, 02:18:31 AM
so...how about we start a thread helping people with excuses for getting off work/school tuesday?  me, i'm thinkin' of something involving a vascular problem...or maybe some type of viral thing i picked up off a monkey at the zoo this past weekend.  either that or i could just pretend to pass out monday, have the ambulance pick me up, then get up halfway to the hospital and tell the paramedics i'm fine i just had a bad sausage biscuit and could they drop me off at the gamestop near my apartment.
8838  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Hobbit finds a director on: April 28, 2008, 02:17:08 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on April 28, 2008, 01:37:00 AM


I hear Uwe Boll is available  icon_twisted

and if there is a god in heaven, he'll remain that way...
8839  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Hobbit finds a director on: April 27, 2008, 10:09:15 PM

Quote from: Big Jake on April 27, 2008, 08:21:01 PM

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You appear to have a great deal of knowledge regarding the homo-erotic fantasies of 15 year old boys. 
LOL icon_biggrin

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anyway, name any action film that YOU like and i'm sure we could all point to a similar scene within it.

Aliens.  Remember that scene where THE ROCK MUSIC CRANKS UP AND HICKS GRABS HIS SUNGLASSES...Oh yeah, didn't happen.  Did a couple of the Space Marines love their guns a little much? Yep  Did it go over the top? Nope.  Is it realistic to believe that in a platoon of marines, at least a few will be in love with mayhem and their weapons? Yep.  As Joel Mathis once observed, Aliens is arguably the greatest action movie of all time because the people mostly respond to situations in ways that seem to fit realistic portrayals of people in those situations.  In Alien, the Space truckers reacted in horror, and then grim determination when confronted by their predicament.  In Aliens, the Marines had an initial shock to what was happening, then reasserted control over themselves, and fell back on trained behavior.  The ONLY minor concession to style was the bipedal skid loader, but there also is no know reason (that I can think of) that a tracked skid loader would be more believable on a spaceship. 

As I said before hepcat, I CAN watch popcorn flicks as popcorn flicks, but their is a limit of stupidity (for the sake of 'that's kewL!!!') that's acceptable in an action film.  And I sat this, remember, after I just touted the merits of an action film in which you can hear a single piece of rebar bouncing across concrete in the midst of a spaceship smacking into a nuclear reactor.  icon_biggrin

Here's my rule of thumb, which just occurred to me: if your action scene HAS to 'CRANK THE MUSIC!!!!', the film sucks, the director sucks, and they should leave it to people WAAAAAAAAAAAY more qualified than them.  Ronin - no cranked rock music in either car chase scene.  Die Hard 3, Bruce in elevator with 4 bad guys.  Terminator, discoteque...Yep, pay attention, the music dims despite the fact the scene occurs in a freaking club.  Holy crap, I may have just discovered the Holy Grail of knowing good action flicks from bad ones!

(And Hepcat, sorry for ragging on a film you like.  I just hate how Michael Bay/Matrix influence has slowly strangled the life out of good action movies.)



so let me get this straight:  a 2 second segment where a hero puts on a pair of sunglasses and they play rock music over it (in a film with a predominantly rock/techno based soundtrack) is grounds for you to dismiss the other 118.58 minutes of the film? 

i gotta say, i actually feel a bit sorry for you. 

as for that scene, it was in blade 2, NOT hellboy.  i prefer hellboy, to be honest because I know that snipes added his own brand of "machismo" to blade 2 whenever he could...and being the star and a producer in that franchise, i'm sure he got final say.  oh, and hellboy received mostly positive reviews from a lot of critics...including Ebert (who gave huge kudos to Aliens).

by the way, i define what you describe as the "let's kick ass!" scene and, as i mentioned earlier, all action films have them.  i don't really see it as being the stuff of teenage homosexual fantasies, as you disturbingly do.  it's just a standard convention in ALL action films.  and Michael Bay (who i think is light years BEHIND del Toro in all things cinematic when it comes to action/horror films) didn't invent it. In your beloved Die Hard, is it realistic to believe our hero would be so brazen as to taunt the bad guys every chance he got?  that he'd take the time to write "Now I've got a machine gun" on a dead criminal's shirt?  those are all designed to get the audience's blood pumping.  yeah, they didn't play rock music over the scene, but it's still a pretty silly scene designed to get the audience riled up.  p.s. i liked die hard, so i'm not complaining.  die hard 3?  that one i might complain about.

and aliens' "Get away from her, you bitch!" line qualifies in my book as one of those scenes, as well.  or do you think ripley's expecting the queen alien to turn around and yell out, "Oh shit, i've been warned...feets don't fail me now!". 

now, with that said, i can see hating such films as Resident Evil 2 and 3 (1 was kind of fun in a goofy, over the top way) and Ultraviolet (a film that couldn't even get decent special effects).  not because they contain moments with "Swelling Music Action Scenes", but because they're just badly written and mostly derivative. 

ah well, in the end i really can't argue with you because you're the type of moviegoer who condemns a director's entire film library because of a 2 second scene you felt made you nephew want to have sex with men. 

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Here's my rule of thumb, which just occurred to me: if your action scene HAS to 'CRANK THE MUSIC!!!!', the film sucks, the director sucks, and they should leave it to people WAAAAAAAAAAAY more qualified than them.

so you've seen what?  7 films in your entire lifetime?  cause pal, that's been going on since Birth of a Nation, for god's sake.

here's a thought:  when watching one of these films that dares to play music during an action scene, grab the remote and turn down the sound.   icon_wink
8840  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Matrix making moves on girls with boyfriends on: April 27, 2008, 05:33:29 PM
hey, that was Sanchez from Garth Merenghi's Dark Place!  i need to find a copy of Snuff Box, the show this was taken from.
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