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8601  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movies] Wanted impressions on: July 03, 2008, 06:13:17 PM

Quote from: kratz on July 03, 2008, 06:12:11 PM

You get so cranky.

me?  i suggested we shake and laugh. 
8602  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: American Hostages Rescued in Colombia on: July 03, 2008, 06:12:41 PM
Anyone interested in starting an Illinois chapter of FARC?

8603  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movies] Wanted impressions on: July 03, 2008, 05:50:23 PM
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You think that's how you show a backstory?  What made the backstory in SEU effective was the lack of the 'This happened, then this happened, then this happened' voiceover (preceded, I might add, by a 'This happened then this happened' prologue)... they just let the character establish himself, and then let slip a few key nuggets about his past as part of a conversation the bad guys are having about him... then they let you fill in the blanks yourself.  It's smarter, and it gives the audience credit for being smart enough to both figure some stuff out on their own and engage them in their individual perception of the character.  With Wanted, we were told absolutely everything about the character throughout the whole movie.  There wasn't any depth to *any* of the characters.


my example was "a way" not the "only way".  you're assigning the term "smart" because Shoot 'Em Up appealed to you more than Wanted apparently has.  However, let's not assume for one second that your opinion is fact.  i would go so far as to say that the off hand comment from the antagonist in Shoot 'Em Up was far dumber than the standard linear method used for the presentation of the backstory for the main character in Wanted. 

you also seem to work under the misconception that obfuscation equals clever.  simply put, no...it doesn't.  the minuscule amount of information given the audience in Shoot 'Em Up for Mr. Smith does not display even one iota of cleverness.  Nor does it give the audience the ability to go home feeling like they've been mentally challenged by the film.   icon_lol

Wanted, as I've stated from post 1, is an action film on par with Shoot 'Em Up.  Both are good at what they do:  giving the audience over the top action.  Neither aspire to anything higher.  if you believe Wanted was trying to do so, then I feel you misunderstood the intention of the film.  I felt that the story in Wanted (and I've already admitted it's full of holes) was a bit stronger than the nearly non-existent one presented in Shoot 'Em Up.  Neither are going to win an Oscar, however.  This is why I used Shoot 'Em Up for comparison purposes and not Lawrence of Arabia.

In the long run, the films we're using as examples of smart vs. dumb action films makes this discussion kind of goofy.  They're both ridiculously unbelievable action films.  I liked both, you liked one.  let's shake and come out laughing.    icon_wink
8604  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movies] Wanted impressions on: July 03, 2008, 05:05:11 PM

Quote from: kratz on July 03, 2008, 04:48:21 PM


So... you thought that the retarded premise was awesome? Alright.

no, i was simply hinting that if you were looking for an awesome story in a summer action film yet loved "Shoot 'Em Up" then your future as a movie critic is seriously in doubt.    icon_wink

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Shoot 'Em Up was much smarter, told a better story

To quote your earlier post:  "What the....?"

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(the Jolie 'origin' story... ugh, I think they got the idea for that one from a 4th grader). 

Jesus, what kind of 4th graders are you freakin' hanging out with?   icon_lol

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What passed for back story for the characters was either done in a crappy voice over (show, don't tell!)

yeah, you're right...remember that extended flashback scene explaining Mr. Smith's backstory...oh wait...there wasn't one!

apparently you and I both saw a film called "Shoot 'Em Up".  The only problem is that you're remembering it incorrectly.   icon_biggrin
8605  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: First review of 'The Dark Knight' on: July 03, 2008, 04:50:23 PM
The ONLY complaint I have about Nolan's take on the Batman franchise is his use of vehicles.  The complex psychological struggles Bruce Wayne deals with both in and out of costume tends to lose some of its gravity when he gets on that goofy bike in the commercials.  Personally, I would have preferred he placed the batmobile, batbike, batboat, batjet and the batsedgeway more in the background than he already has.

However, if that's my ONLY complaint about Nolan's direction...well, that should tell you how much of a genius I think he is.   icon_wink

I'm really looking forward to this one.  Ledger sounds like he's captured the Joker I've always wanted to see onscreen.
8606  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movies] Wanted impressions on: July 03, 2008, 04:03:40 PM

Quote from: kratz on July 03, 2008, 03:38:09 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 01, 2008, 06:50:25 PM

But Wanted is like Shoot 'em Up (another recent fave of mine) in that it's there to display great gun fights and over the top action.  However, unlike Shoot 'em Up, Wanted has a better story with a fully developed (albeit hard to swallow at times and containing more than a few little holes) story driving it.

What the ...?

Shoot 'Em Up was on a *completely* different level, and, very importantly, never took itself seriously... Wanted never laughs at itself even for a second.  It actually expects us to think that this retarded premise is awesome.

I never said that it was passing itself off as a retelling of Henry the VIII, for christ's sake.  I said that it at least contained a story.  I love Wanted, but it was purely a vehicle for the gunfights.  The story was so full of holes that when i saw it at a cinema it actually allowed the film being played in the theater next door to pass through it at times.  Wanted, while also full of holes, at least tried to establish some backstory for its characters, enabling viewers to understand the protagonist's actions. 

I honestly thought Wanted didn't take itself as seriously as it could given the plot that evolves throughout the film.  If you didn't understand that some of the film's subplots were basically laughing nods to The Secret Life of Walter Mitty and the Matrix...well...I don't know how to respond to that diplomatically.   icon_biggrin

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  It actually expects us to think that this retarded premise is awesome.
 

No, I think that's more a fault on your part.    slywink
8607  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: So any interest in doing a Forum weight loss challenge? on: July 02, 2008, 08:07:12 PM
Weighed myself last night:  219.2

Weighed myself this morning after waking up:  211.8

Weighed myself after showering:  215.6

...returning scale after work.
8608  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] The Mutant Chronicles on: July 02, 2008, 07:12:38 PM
Yep, I was at Origins.  Unlike Ceekay I did not go just for the chance to dress up in a sailor moon costume and wave around a plastic sword that I named "Sir Knocker".

and i'm not sure about what came first:  the game or a comic book.  i'm thinkin' it's a game first, though.

and mcnutt:  the video didn't look that dark on my system.  those images you posted are almost unviewable.   icon_confused
8609  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] The Mutant Chronicles on: July 02, 2008, 07:01:40 PM

Quote from: McNutt on July 02, 2008, 06:21:17 PM

Shooting everything in the dark is a pet peeve of mine.  Mostly it's done at night to create "atmosphere" (see most horror movies), but sometimes it's done because that's the director's style (see David Fincher).  This movie makes even the daylight scenes very dark so that you can't make out much detail at all.  The shot probably was illuminated, but during postproduction it appears they darkened everything up significantly. 

hmmm...i still don't think it's that dark.  at least to the point of distraction that it appears to be for you.
8610  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] The Mutant Chronicles on: July 02, 2008, 06:14:15 PM

Quote from: McNutt on July 02, 2008, 06:12:33 PM

Do they not want us to be able to see anything?  Why was everything shot in such complete darkness?  I couldn't even make out a most of the faces.

really?  i didn't think it was too dark.  it seemed to have a sepia tone to everything, but not to the point of obstruction.   icon_confused
8611  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [movie] The Mutant Chronicles on: July 02, 2008, 05:55:15 PM
Looks like it might be fun .  I like the look of it.  It's like the director is trying to channel a WWI film.

I just wish the damn game had been released at Origins.   Tongue
8612  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movies] Wanted impressions on: July 02, 2008, 05:40:59 PM
I have to laugh when I read some of the vehement diatribes against films and then go back and check out some of their previous posts.

day 5:  Wanted sucks!  It's mindless!

day 3: I thought Resident Evil 2 was great!

day 1:  The Sex and the City movie isn't that bad!

  icon_lol
8613  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: So any interest in doing a Forum weight loss challenge? on: July 01, 2008, 07:34:51 PM
So I shave off my beard yesterday just for a change of pace.  I've had the bloody thing now for the last 6 or 7 years without a break.  Unfortunately, during that time, I've really let myself go to pot in the area of exercise and eating habits.

After I'm done shaving, I suddenly recognize the results of that lack of oversight.  I look like a giant friggin' smiley face.  My double chin has a double chin.  This is the single biggest incentive I've had in the last 10 years to lose weight!   eek

I'll pick up a scale on my way home from work tonight and put in my current weight.  I'm thinking I'll just reduce my daily calories and see if that helps (trust me, what I usually shove down my gullet is a crime against god and nature...it's not like i was even making a half hearted attempt at eating right), as well as ramp up the exercise a bit. 

...i find my thought processes somewhat alarming if the threat of looking like Burl Ives has trumped high cholesterol and the potential development of diabetes.

edit:  weight as of today (july 1st, 2008): 220 lbs.
8614  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Movies] Wanted impressions on: July 01, 2008, 06:50:25 PM
Saw it yesterday afternoon.  It's a perfect matinee, popcorn film.  It doesn't try to insert a preachy subplot and feels comfortable in its role as simply an action film...something that seems to be a problem for many big name action films.  I don't mind political or social relevance in my action films, but it's oftentimes forced in like an afterthought by annoying actors who seem to think they know better than anyone else what's good for the country and the world at large.

But Wanted is like Shoot 'em Up (another recent fave of mine) in that it's there to display great gun fights and over the top action.  However, unlike Shoot 'em Up, Wanted has a better story with a fully developed (albeit hard to swallow at times and containing more than a few little holes) story driving it.

I highly recommend it!
8615  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Origins 2008 on: July 01, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Yeah, Columbus had a "Com Festival" (which I was informed was short for "Community Festival"...which I then immediately translated into "Corn Fest" for anyone who asked what all the hub-bub was about.  I even added that this year they were paying tribute to Sweet Corn:  The most succulent of corns).

As for the disorganized feel, I got that same vibe.  One of my games simply said the location was "Customer Service" which resulted in a friend and I walking all over the place asking everyone we saw what the hell THAT meant.  Thankfully we eventually stumbled upon the right location by accident.
8616  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Origins 2008 on: July 01, 2008, 02:50:58 PM
I'm not buyin' that excuse.  The Saturday night car wars game was in the tabletop room.  Since there were only two large rooms (the tabletop game room and the miniatures room), you basically had a 50/50 chance in finding us.  Considering that the car wars set up was roughly the size of michigan AND you had my personal contact info, it's safe to assume that zarathud and I mean nothing to you.  You hate us, you really hate us.  You make baby jesus cry.
8617  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Origins 2008 on: June 25, 2008, 02:22:21 PM
sheesh, the past 2 years I was given enough swag to choke a horse.   icon_cry
8618  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Need 360 game suggestions on: June 24, 2008, 08:08:24 PM

Quote from: Purge on June 24, 2008, 07:32:13 PM

Despite the fact that no one recommended it yet, go through the Halo series. All can be had for cheap, and coop play is excellent. (only 3 offers online coop).

psst...halo 3 is on my list.   icon_wink

the music alone is worth playing those games. 
8619  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Starship Troopers 3 Trailer! on: June 24, 2008, 07:52:56 PM
Watching bits and pieces of the first one when it came out, I hated it.  Sitting down and watching the whole film to get the context, i actually understood what the intent of it was.  Verhoeven is a subversive son of a bitch (watch Robocop for further evidence).  If the first film had come out post 9/11 it would've received far more notice.
8620  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: And there goes another one. on: June 24, 2008, 06:55:31 PM
I'm on my third one now.  It's an elite and it was purchased back in February.  I believe that makes it one of the Falcon models.  I'm really hoping this one holds up until they release a new version of the xbox, however I realize that the failure rate on the 360 is just too friggin' high to realistically expect that.   icon_cry

That being said, I try to unplug mine at least once a month now and use canned air on all the vents to keep it as dust free as possible.  Hopefully that will extend its life by a bit. 
8621  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tales from the Crypt on: June 24, 2008, 02:42:23 PM

Quote from: PR_GMR on June 23, 2008, 03:03:00 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on June 14, 2008, 11:04:51 PM

They've just started a new anthology called "Fear Itself" Thursdays on NBC (10pm EST). Two episodes so far. I haven't been overly impressed with it yet, but it's a horror anthology on primetime network TV so I've been supporting it.


We've been reviewing the 'Feat Itself' episodes every week at Horror-101. So far, they've been pretty good. Thursdays at 10pm. Check it out, folks.

you guys liked 'em?  I've been disappointed, actually.  Maybe that's due to the involvement of the Masters of Mediocrity (sorry, Masters of Horror) makers, though.  i just feel like we've seen all these stories done to death.  What they need to do (in my opinion) is grab some classic short stories from talented genre writers like Bloch and Matheson that haven't made it to the screen.  The material they're working with now just strikes me as tired.
8622  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Need 360 game suggestions on: June 24, 2008, 02:24:49 PM

Quote from: Gratch on June 24, 2008, 02:20:58 PM

Outside of Rock Band, I'd second (third?) Bioshock, Mass Effect, Oblivion, and give a tentative recommendation for Lost Odyssey.  There's some excellent XBL titles as well.  I'm partial to Puzzle Quest, Rez, and Settlers of Cataan.

yeah, i forgot about some of the excellent live games.  i second the puzzle quest and catan suggestion, while adding carcassone.
8623  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Need 360 game suggestions on: June 24, 2008, 02:04:49 PM
My favorites (some games I've actually finished, even):

Crackdown
Dead Rising
Rainbow Six: Vegas 1 & 2
Ghost Recon: AW 1 & 2
Oblivion
GTA IV
Call of Duty 4
Bully: Scholarship Edition
The Godfather
Halo 3
Assassin's Creed
Mass Effect
Bioshock
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
8624  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone else playing the BF:BC (Now not the demo) on: June 24, 2008, 01:35:33 PM
Don't you get all "forum effect" on me, dagnabit!   icon_biggrin

reviews for the game so far are pretty good.  i don't really know a lot about it, though.  are there classes in the game? 
8625  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: With Friends Like This... on: June 23, 2008, 08:24:27 PM

Quote from: Pyperkub on June 23, 2008, 08:17:11 PM

TTIWWOP



it's the NUMBER of hearts he drew by hand that disturbs most folks.   Tongue
8626  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: With Friends Like This... on: June 23, 2008, 07:38:17 PM

Quote from: Moliere on June 23, 2008, 07:30:47 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 23, 2008, 07:26:44 PM

PR_GMR was just sending me a thank you gift for some stuff I did on horror101.com.  he just felt that it was necessary that I get picked on by coworkers in the process.   icon_wink

Good cover story. Did your co-workers buy it?

unfortunately no, i think parading around the office singing It's Raining Men and wearing a bridal gow.....HEY, I SAID STOP TRYING TO TRICK ME, DANG IT!
8627  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: With Friends Like This... on: June 23, 2008, 07:26:44 PM
not yet...but fingers are crosse....HEY, WAIT A MINUTE!

PR_GMR was just sending me a thank you gift for some stuff I did on horror101.com.  he just felt that it was necessary that I get picked on by coworkers in the process.   icon_wink
8628  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Vicious thunderstorms here... anyone have a "whole house surge protector?" on: June 23, 2008, 07:23:12 PM
Here in Chicago we had the worst hail storm I've ever had the misfortune of seeing yesterday afternoon.  I was seriously worried my car was going to get destroyed.
8629  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / With Friends Like This... on: June 23, 2008, 07:21:29 PM
So I get this oversized box today at my office address.  Unfortunately it's covered in giant, hand drawn hearts, looks like a belated Valentine's Day gift from a secret admirer and has a return address with a man's name.  I open it up and find a 12" plastic Elvis Presley as portrayed in the movie Bubba Ho Tep...giant sunglasses and jumpsuit included.

...so now everyone in the office wants to know when my life partner and myself are heading to California.

All I can say is...thanks PR_GMR...you bastich.   Tongue
8630  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC Patch Notes June 23 on: June 23, 2008, 04:05:44 PM
Anyone else have issues yesterday with the temple of mitra in the noble district?  the clipping was turned off or so badly broken that people were being "trapped" in the temple after falling through the floor when entering.  Some were able to get out by using the fountains to launch themselves upwards, but most were just using the asura skill to teleport out.
8631  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: AoC Patch Notes June 23 on: June 23, 2008, 03:34:03 PM
They should nerf ToS even further by having one arm tied behind their backs at all time.   Tongue
8632  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: African-Canadians? on: June 20, 2008, 08:26:12 PM

Quote from: Moliere on June 20, 2008, 08:16:30 PM


Wouldn't "Native American" be anyone born in the U.S.?


if you're white it means you call yourself "Cherokee".   icon_wink
8633  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: African-Canadians? on: June 20, 2008, 06:34:10 PM
I used to work with a guy named Caesar whose parents were from Guatemala.  When they came to this country they vowed to raise their children as Americans, however.  They tried to only use English around the house, although they did teach them to be proud of their heritage.  They just wanted them to assimilate as well as they could since they themselves felt the pressures of being immigrants. 

We both were assigned to a long term job in El Paso, Texas a few years ago.  We'd heard about the cheap tequila that could be purchased in Juarez across the border, so we crossed over one night to stock up.  On the way back, the border guards stopped us to check out our purchases.   They quickly passed by me and fixated on Caesar.  For some reason, they had trouble believing he was American.  The conversation lasted about 5 minutes and went like this:

Guard:  (says something in Spanish)
Caesar:  Huh?
Guard: (repeats the same thing in Spanish)
Caesar:  Dude, seriously, English.
Guard:  Where are you from?
Caesar:  Jersey
Guard:  Jersey, huh?
Caesar: It's in the U.S..
Guard:  I know where it's at!  How come you don't speak Spanish.
Caesar:  Cause i'm from Jersey?
Guard:  Don't be smart!
Caesar:  Alright.
Guard:  You sure you're not from here?
Caesar:  Pretty sure I'm from Jersey.
Guard:  Alright, go ahead.

The guard seemed genuinely upset at the time that Caesar wasn't fluent in Spanish.  He later told me that he knew SOME Spanish but that he really only had one rule:  if he heard the word "muerte" he'd run.

8634  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Space Rangers 2: Reloaded on: June 20, 2008, 06:19:55 PM
man, i'd love to get this off impulse, but 40 bucks is cutting into my already assigned gaming dollars for the next two months.   icon_frown
8635  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: RPG - Good News and Deals on: June 20, 2008, 06:13:25 PM

Quote from: StevenPeeler on June 20, 2008, 12:37:09 AM

Quote from: hepcat on June 19, 2008, 03:37:18 PM

Hmmm....just installed the demo for Depths of Peril and, while it seems to have installed successfully, it gave me a "Can't find network resource" error towards the end of the installation process.

Did you install the demo directly from us (Soldak)?  If you did, I don't know why on earth it would give you that error.  There shouldn't be any resources required outside of the installer and it doesn't try to access the internet or anything.

i was installing it directly from the demo link in impulse.  i wonder if that was what caused the problem?  in any case, it works so it obviously didn't cause the install to fail, just made it look like it did.  played about an hour and i was mighty impressed.  good game!
8636  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's with all the Coldplay hate? on: June 20, 2008, 06:08:05 PM
continuing the derail:

anyone can have a bad photo taken

8637  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's with all the Coldplay hate? on: June 20, 2008, 05:21:08 PM
I just can't get into Radiohead.  I don't know why.  I like similar sounding bands from time to time, but for some reason I just find them grating.  Tom Waits I can listen to all day, though.  His gravel voice just makes me feel inexplicably good.

Coldplay suffers from the same unjustified dislike as Radiohead on my part.  The only thing I can think of is that I've inextricably associated the personal lives of the band members with their music and that causes me to be biased against them as I often find their antics disingenuous or outright obnoxious.  However, I understand that musically they're very talented and that my dislike, as mentioned, is a very personal and subjective issue.  

8638  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Ego Post] The Dirty 30 on: June 20, 2008, 03:50:06 PM
Happy Birthday!
8639  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Early word on "Iron Man" on: June 20, 2008, 03:43:06 PM

Quote from: McNutt on June 20, 2008, 03:33:41 PM

Quote from: JCAnejo on June 20, 2008, 03:27:31 PM

How can you take a Super Hero that has been around for ages and make him a new creation just baffles me.

I don't understand this statement.  Are you saying the movie should be in the 60s?

i think that's what he's saying.  however, the comics themselves constantly update characters for new generations (john byrne's superman, for example) so why should movies not be able to do the same thing? 
8640  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Too funny not to share! (pc game becomes all movies) on: June 19, 2008, 06:07:41 PM

Quote from: Butterknife on June 19, 2008, 05:59:16 PM

I thought it was clever enough.

he just wants you kids to stay out of his dang yard!
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