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8321  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: "Kudos for Gamestop" or "My God, Some People are Stupid" on: August 19, 2008, 04:59:19 PM
I think the clerk handled it quite well.  It's like R rated movies.  the cashier can't stop an adult from taking a child into the movie.  the responsibility is firmly on the parent or guardian at that point.

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Well, it reminds me a bit of a parent who will say, "Look, my high school kid is going to drink alcohol.  I would rather they did it in my home where I can at least keep an eye on them, than out somewhere, especially if they have to drive."  I actually think this is a good idea.  Better than a clueless parent who either assumes their kid doesn't drink or one who adopts a don't ask/don't tell policy.

i tried to use this excuse with my parents when i was about 12.  they didn't think that at that age I should have access to firearms, liquor and prostitutes though.   icon_cry
8322  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Preview] Hands-On with Fable II on: August 19, 2008, 02:48:07 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 19, 2008, 02:39:04 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 19, 2008, 02:02:15 PM

welp, that's it then...i'm firing up the original fable and playing it through before Fable II is released.  i've been meaning to do it for what seems like forever. 

i'll be back in a month...

 icon_biggrin

I'm thinking about grabbing it for the PC since the 360 BC for it seems to be unstable.

really?  crap, is that confirmed?  'cause i just picked up the "lost chapters" edition for the xbox a few months ago. 
8323  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movies you hate that everyone else loves on: August 19, 2008, 02:42:52 PM

Quote from: yossar on August 19, 2008, 02:27:54 AM

The Big Lebowski and The Evil Dead (Does everyone love that one?)

yes

Quote from: CeeKay on August 18, 2008, 11:59:36 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 18, 2008, 05:46:31 PM

sent my only star wars action figure ( a jawa) up into the lower earth's atmosphere in a model rocket when I was about 12. 

you only had 1 Star Wars action figure, and it was a Jawa?  you poor, poor man.

i was a micronaut's man, myself.
8324  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Too Human demo coming next week on: August 19, 2008, 02:31:16 PM
the part that really turned me off was the reference in the gamespot review to the "10 hour story".   icon_cry

i had a blast with the demo as well, but i think i'll hold off until it hits 30 bucks or less.  with reviews like this, it won't be THAT long.   icon_wink
8325  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Too Human demo coming next week on: August 19, 2008, 02:14:02 PM

Quote from: EddieA on August 19, 2008, 07:05:59 AM

IGN gave it 7.8/10, Gamespy a 2.5/5, and Gamespot scored it 5.5/10.

 icon_frown

that's too many bad reviews to justify a purchase when so many games are coming out in the next few months. 
8326  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Preview] Hands-On with Fable II on: August 19, 2008, 02:02:15 PM
welp, that's it then...i'm firing up the original fable and playing it through before Fable II is released.  i've been meaning to do it for what seems like forever. 

i'll be back in a month...

 icon_biggrin
8327  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Support Your Local USMC Kato on: August 19, 2008, 01:55:15 PM
Kato's certainly in my thoughts and prayers.  I refuse to believe that he will make anything but a complete recovery, though! 
8328  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movies you hate that everyone else loves on: August 18, 2008, 05:46:31 PM

Quote from: rickfc on August 16, 2008, 12:38:28 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 16, 2008, 05:42:08 AM

Quote from: rickfc on August 16, 2008, 02:09:43 AM

Oh please.  Go back and watch the movies while trying to turn off the fanboy switch and you'll see what I mean.  They're nothing more than poorly written and horribly acted science fiction movies.  They were ground breaking at the time of their original release because nothing like that had been done before.  But the movies haven't aged well.

so go back and watch movies that you love while hating them?  wouldn't that make any movie suck?


No, I didn't say to go back and watch them while hating them.  I said to go back and watch them as if you were watching them without gushing about how much you love them from the get go.

Anyway, it doesn't matter.  The thread is about the movies I hate that everyone else loves.  I hate the Star Wars series now.  I liked them when I was a kid, but I watched them again after I saw Episode 3 in the theater and didn't find any redeeming qualities about them outside of the things I listed in my OP.  I understand why people love them and we can leave it at that.

while this thread is about movies we hate as individuals and you're certainly entitled to your opinion, i do have to pipe up and say that i recently rewatched the original star wars movies after getting the "non-lucasfied" original box set and i was impressed by how well it aged...both in story and acting.  i actually enjoyed them quite a bit...especially the empire strikes back.  i absolutely love that one.   icon_wink 

p.s. and i wouldn't consider myself a fanboy as i've never once had a serious discussion about star wars, never dressed as a character, and sent my only star wars action figure ( a jawa) up into the lower earth's atmosphere in a model rocket when I was about 12. 
8329  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (8/18) on: August 18, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
ouch on the Too Human review.  I think I may just hold off until a few more come rolling in.   icon_cry
8330  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tropic Thunder on: August 18, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
I thought it was one of Stiller's best.  Downey just stole the film. 

I'm rapidly reaching my maximum jack black capacity but he toned it down enough in this one to actually show he can do more than just mug for the camera constantly.

danny mcbride is rapidly becoming one of my favorite character comics. 

the only thing i disliked was the little kid.  that just annoyed me.
8331  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movies you hate that everyone else loves on: August 15, 2008, 01:21:53 AM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 15, 2008, 01:17:17 AM

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My gripe is with the twisted, odd storyline.  It was awful.
This is just a weird gripe to me. You like a movie where the storyline is that a big ass magical cube in space comes to earth and big ass living good and evil robots who can change into an alternate, inferior mechanical shape come to earth to fight for it, but you hate a movie where a guy who is designated as the leader of Halloween Town wants to be something more and experience Christmas?

You oversimplify.  The weird sock monster, the abusive scientist with his frankenstien geisha, etc.  It was too twisted and "off" for me to gain any enjoyment out of it.

that was kind of the point.  they lived in HALLOWEEN Town, not Mayberry.   icon_lol

p.s. you still waking up in a cold sweat at nights while screaming, "BUT YOU CAN'T BE A DENTIST, YOU DUMB ASS ELF!"?   Tongue

8332  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The year is 1987 on: August 15, 2008, 01:18:50 AM
back in those days the only thing i feared were hats...
8333  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / The year is 1987 on: August 14, 2008, 08:12:24 PM
And a young hepcat, fresh off his triumphant "My God, it almost reaches the ceiling!" tour brings his mighty coif back to the Akron, Ohio area. 



Many is the man who tried to duplicate the devil may care stylings of this late '80's icon (not to mention such celebrities as Paul Young, the lead singer from Ah Ha, Howard Jones and a drunken lead singer of Flock of Seagulls - who used WAY too much mousse during the final stages of the process and subsequently tried to hide his mistake behind a host of "I meant to do that!" excuses), but all fell short of the layered, ready to go look that defined this fashion trendsetter.

Metrosexuals of today owe a great deal of their existence to such pioneers (as well as quite a few Transexuals...such as Ellen Degeneres and John Travolta) for it was these brave men who first dared to stand up and say, "Gender be damned, I'm going to look like Phyllis Diller after a street fight no matter what my friends say!".

Sadly, hepcat was found almost beaten to death in 1993 after being mistaken for a member of the band Poison by Local 413 of the greater Cleveland area.  Living just long enough for someone to get him some conditioner, his dying words at the hospital now adorn the arches above the main foyer of the Vidal Sassoon Research Center: 

"I died from beauty...and severe head trauma...well...mostly the severe head trauma".

(sorry, dug this old photo up while cleaning out my email and couldn't resist making fun of myself  Tongue)




8334  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movies you love that everyone else hates... on: August 14, 2008, 06:13:38 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 14, 2008, 05:57:24 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 14, 2008, 05:46:28 PM

The first time you hear Swayze utter the line, "It's my way or the highway" in Roadhouse, you just know that quality has walked in the door....

And the level of complexity and depth of the dialogue only continues to impress with later quotes such as, "Pain don't hurt," and "Calling me sir is like putting an elevator in an outhouse.  It don't belong."  But the high point of the film has to be, "Nobody ever wins a fight."  Rarely does a film include such poignant and deep philosophy. 

I actually would like to see someone teach a college course on philosophy using Roadhouse as the main source material.  I feel that such "edutainment" would eventually produce a class of "warrior/philosophers" that could eventually wrest control of this great country and lead us to a Nietzschen future much like the one Khan Noonian Singh envisioned in Star Trek 2:  The Wrath of the Hair Plug.
8335  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movies you love that everyone else hates... on: August 14, 2008, 05:46:28 PM
The first time you hear Swayze utter the line, "It's my way or the highway" in Roadhouse, you just know that quality has walked in the door....


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While we are it, David Lynch's Dune wasn't half bad

lynch's sets, costumes, casting and overall vision of Dune is head and shoulders above every attempt ever made to put this series on film (I'd go so far as to say that the sci fi channel's adaption basically took the look from the first one and used it for their adaptation almost completely).  the only downfall was the way the story got chewed up and spit out for general consumption.  if lynch had been even a bit more faithful to the source, i predict that his version of Dune would've become the definitive version.
8336  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movies you love that everyone else hates... on: August 14, 2008, 05:03:02 PM

Quote from: rickfc on August 14, 2008, 04:53:42 PM

Quote from: Purge on August 14, 2008, 04:52:48 PM

Quote from: Gratch on August 14, 2008, 04:52:02 PM

Quote from: Moliere on August 14, 2008, 04:36:48 PM

Big Trouble in Little China

I challenge you to find a single person that doesn't like this movie.  It's simply unpossible.

It was decidedly "Meh".



You take that back!

anyone who hates jack burton should turn in their man card, move to Wimplevania and take up sewing!   Tongue
8337  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movies you hate that everyone else loves on: August 14, 2008, 04:47:34 PM

Quote from: Moliere on August 14, 2008, 04:39:32 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 14, 2008, 02:49:51 PM

<raises hand> i...uh...i love nightmare before christmas 

Sounds like you're in the wrong thread.

i've been in the wrong thread since 1989
8338  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Movies you hate that everyone else loves on: August 14, 2008, 02:49:51 PM
<raises hand> i...uh...i love nightmare before christmas 
8339  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] Fable II: Pub Games Impressions on: August 14, 2008, 01:44:24 PM

Quote from: Purge on August 14, 2008, 01:33:34 PM

I know you get the pub games free if you preorder fable 2.

ah crap, i should have looked up that little tidbit before spending my cash.   crybaby
8340  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [360] Fable II: Pub Games Impressions on: August 14, 2008, 01:22:41 PM
Picked this up last night and quickly got hooked on the tower's gate card game.  What a brilliant little time waster!  I honestly think it's mostly a luck game, so very minimal strategy involved from my viewpoint. 

I tried the other 3 or 4 games included but kept going back to the card game.  The other games (especially the keystone game) are a bit more complex and I was short on time and patience last night.   icon_wink

I like the fact that you unlock the ability to bet more as you gain "gambler's ranks", which is just thresholds of money won that you have to surpass during your game time.

Anyone know if buying the pub games gets you a discount for the purchase amount on the retail version of Fable II, by the way?
8341  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 09:19:39 PM
plus, let's face it:  george isn't a very good screenwriter.  i'd go so far as to say he's really pretty awful.  the 1st star wars was his best effort.  the two sequels immediately following that had the advantage of Lawrence Kasdan (as did the first Indy film).  his script for the empire strikes back, for example, was stellar and that's why it's my favorite in the series.
8342  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 08:59:13 PM
From what I hear, towards the end of the movie Lucas tries to tie in another promotional character in the form of "Pizza the Hut"....
8343  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 08:53:31 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 13, 2008, 08:51:42 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 13, 2008, 08:43:57 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 13, 2008, 08:39:51 PM

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By the way, I have no issues with a baby or gay Jabba, or even a gay baby Jabba.

MESA SO HAPPY YOUSA SAYING THAT!

I had no problem with him, either.

Although I did like him better when he was trying to get br'er rabbit to attack the tar baby....

Yes, George Lucas hates black people.

whoa, let's not get crazy!  George DID create Lando Calrissian and cast Billy Dee Williams (who I will refer to as "Mr. Suave" from this point forward) in the role.  I suspect George might actually have a little soul in his bloodline that enabled him to understand just how goddamn cool Mr. Suave really is...

Yes, but notice Lando was a criminal.

damn!  

lucas you racist son of a ...

I always wandered why the stormtroopers looked like klan members of the future!

8344  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 08:50:37 PM

Quote from: kadnod on August 13, 2008, 08:49:06 PM


And now that I think about it, why would a giant wormanoid get his rocks off by putting human chicks in gold bikinis?


the same reason old women put their poodles in sweaters?
8345  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 08:43:57 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 13, 2008, 08:39:51 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 13, 2008, 08:30:59 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 13, 2008, 08:28:30 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 13, 2008, 08:18:53 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 13, 2008, 08:00:07 PM


By the way, I have no issues with a baby or gay Jabba, or even a gay baby Jabba.

MESA SO HAPPY YOUSA SAYING THAT!

I had no problem with him, either.

Although I did like him better when he was trying to get br'er rabbit to attack the tar baby....

Yes, George Lucas hates black people.

whoa, let's not get crazy!  George DID create Lando Calrissian and cast Billy Dee Williams (who I will refer to as "Mr. Suave" from this point forward) in the role.  I suspect George might actually have a little soul in his bloodline that enabled him to understand just how goddamn cool Mr. Suave really is...
8346  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 08:30:59 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 13, 2008, 08:28:30 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 13, 2008, 08:18:53 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 13, 2008, 08:00:07 PM


By the way, I have no issues with a baby or gay Jabba, or even a gay baby Jabba.

MESA SO HAPPY YOUSA SAYING THAT!

I had no problem with him, either.

Although I did like him better when he was trying to get br'er rabbit to attack the tar baby....
8347  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 08:18:53 PM

Quote from: The Grue on August 13, 2008, 08:00:07 PM


By the way, I have no issues with a baby or gay Jabba, or even a gay baby Jabba.

MESA SO HAPPY YOUSA SAYING THAT!
8348  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 07:20:21 PM

Quote from: Sarkus on August 13, 2008, 07:16:15 PM

People keep forgetting that this movie is kicking off a syndicated TV series that will continue the story, characters, and art style.  As of last September they had already produced 39 of 100 planned episodes. 

There's a lot more riding on this film than how it does in theatres. 

i would actually say that the television show has a great deal riding on how well this does in the theaters. 
8349  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 06:03:27 PM

Quote from: Zero on August 13, 2008, 05:57:43 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 13, 2008, 05:35:11 PM

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Baby Jabba Hutt and Jabba the Hutt's Gay Uncle

 icon_eek

that pretty much gave me all I needed for my decision making process...

...that your going to see the movie no matter what. 


depends really.  if i can get my baby jabba hutt outfit together in time for the premiere, I might.
8350  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: LucasArts Embargoes "Clone Wars" Reviews on: August 13, 2008, 05:35:11 PM
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Baby Jabba Hutt and Jabba the Hutt's Gay Uncle

 icon_eek

that pretty much gave me all I needed for my decision making process...
8351  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Jake G. as Prince of Persia on: August 13, 2008, 04:00:03 PM

Quote from: Purge on August 13, 2008, 03:48:55 PM



wait...which one is jake?
8352  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Olympics] China's doing a bang up job... on: August 13, 2008, 03:59:03 PM

Quote from: Zero on August 13, 2008, 03:50:57 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on August 13, 2008, 11:57:23 AM

While we're on the subject of Chinese scumbags, how about the fact that the US found proof before the games that at least two of their female gymnasts are 14, 2 years below the minimum Olympic age?

Enjoy your gold medal, cheaters.

Help me understand why its cheating?  I heard that on the news last night as well - but if they performed with the same grace, difficulties, and performance that rated them as Gold medal winners - why is that cheating?  If they allowed 14 year olds - its not the 14 year olds fault that they can out perform everyone else and beat out all the competition (including the US, which IMO wasn't that great, especially their floor exercises). 

I was actually curious about that as well.  One article explained that kids that age don't understand the pressure and are therefore less likely to screw up due to the associated mental anguish of performing for such a large audience when such high stakes are at risk.  Seemed a bit shaky as far as excuses go, to be honest.  however, rules are rules and they were put into play for a reason and should be followed.  if these accusations had been leveled against a non-host nation, it probably would have been investigated by the IOC.
8353  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Funny eBay Feedback on: August 13, 2008, 03:13:47 PM
I love these.  Years ago someone (I think Fed) posted something similar on OO.  I almost wet myself laughing at them.  My favorite from that one was a simple feedback that read, "Sun goes down, pants go down.  Sun comes up, pants come up".   icon_lol

the one that made me almost spit out of coffee from this guy's feedbacks was

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WADDA GYP!—These PAPAL INDULGENCES you sold me are only good for CLOWN heaven!
8354  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Jake G. as Prince of Persia on: August 13, 2008, 03:05:56 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 13, 2008, 02:31:31 PM

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Jake is one of his generation's best actors.  I have faith he'll be able to pull it off.

And I think he's a dud of an actor, personally.

I think his work in October Sky, Donnie Darko and Brokeback Mountain displayed a fairly wide range of acting ability.  I'm sticking with my original assessment.   icon_wink

don't forget the awesomeness that was 'The Day After Tomorrow'!  nod

hey, we all gotta pay the bills.   icon_smile
8355  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Jake G. as Prince of Persia on: August 13, 2008, 02:04:28 PM

Quote from: whiteboyskim on August 13, 2008, 02:32:34 AM

Quote from: hepcat on August 12, 2008, 03:44:33 PM

Jake is one of his generation's best actors.  I have faith he'll be able to pull it off.

And I think he's a dud of an actor, personally.

I think his work in October Sky, Donnie Darko and Brokeback Mountain displayed a fairly wide range of acting ability.  I'm sticking with my original assessment.   icon_wink
8356  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Has Art regressed? on: August 13, 2008, 12:24:03 PM

Quote from: LordMortis on August 13, 2008, 11:47:08 AM

To the isolation, the street is empty, the diner is mostly empty, void not only people but of stuff, and within it you have a couple and what looks like soda jerk or short order cook talking to the couple and then another man off sitting by himself.  The jerk and couple are in the light and the man by himself, even though he is the center of painting is in shadow there is illumination in the night all around him.

My preference, though is for the first issue of The Tick's interpretation.  "I got a straw!"

 icon_lol  i always loved that they took the diner from that painting and used it in The Tick. 

I guess personal interpretation of Nighthawks boils down to "who do you identify most with in that painting". 

...and that makes me realize I need to get out and socialize more!   icon_eek
8357  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Olympics] China's doing a bang up job... on: August 13, 2008, 12:21:32 PM

Quote from: scubabbl on August 13, 2008, 03:29:01 AM

Quote from: hepcat on August 13, 2008, 02:46:23 AM

I just felt that coming into this thread with both guns blazing, basically bitching that we were ugly americans for getting upset over a little girl being told by a figure of authority that she wasn't fit to be seen when there were wars going on was insulting.

Alright alright. I have to confess I've been trolling you up a bit, laying it on a bit thick, but I came across too serious. I do think it's pretty messed up what the did to the girl, especially considering what the spirit of the games are about. China is spending far to much time painting a glossy picture when everyone already knows it's fake. I do think they are not used to all the media coverage, especially since most of it is not under their control. I hope china takes a lot of these criticisms to heart and steers their country in a more positive direction, but I think like all governments, they have short memories and will go back to the same old same old once the games are over.

And I probably overreacted a bit.  Let's shake and agree to disagree on some things, but agree that a little girl shouldn't be treated in such a way.   slywink


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I do think they are not used to all the media coverage, especially since most of it is not under their control.

that's actually a pretty good assessment of what's going on with China right now, imho.

Quote from: Eduardo X on August 13, 2008, 02:48:11 AM

I'm not trying to say "forget about this little girl!" I'm just saying, this whole thing is on top of some other, much more shady shit on China's part.
I don't mean to hell with a little girl's feelings, but imagine the pain of the thousands of little girl's who's parents are in prison for political activism, etc.

One thing that IS totally outrageous is my spelling. Wtf?

i was just taken aback at the callous nature of that statement, especially given your usual sympathetic and humanist nature.  the moment we start trivializing even the smallest crimes against another human by focusing on the "larger picture" is the moment we've started that dangerous slide down the slippery slope towards that which we rail against.  i know the needs of the many should outweigh the needs of the few, but i also fear the consequences of ignoring the needs of the few when they can be addressed with simple acknowledgment.

as for the spelling, i was just all fired up.   icon_wink  god knows my love of not capitalizing and an unnatural love of ellipses makes me the biggest hypocrite when it comes to complaining about another person's grammar. 
8358  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Olympics] China's doing a bang up job... on: August 13, 2008, 02:46:23 AM
I just felt that coming into this thread with both guns blazing, basically bitching that we were ugly americans for getting upset over a little girl being told by a figure of authority that she wasn't fit to be seen when there were wars going on was insulting.
8359  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Has Art regressed? on: August 13, 2008, 01:49:57 AM

Quote from: Semaj on August 13, 2008, 01:33:33 AM

Quote from: hepcat on August 11, 2008, 08:41:15 PM

Valid argument made...

Ok, hepcat, you dont see how arguing on forums go.  There will be no logic used, no common sense, no facts or numbers or links that back your claim, unless they are made fo whole cloth.  No competent arguing please... smile

Ok, I can accept you like a painting that makes you lonely and depressed it brings about an emotion in you and you feel the painting has touched you in ways that are not "bad touch". 

But, on the other end of the spectrum, putting shit on a stick would make me feel repulsed/grossed out/highly irritated.  Should I congratulate the artist who brought out these emotions or point out it really just is shit on a stick?

 icon_biggrin to the first part

as for the second, obviously there are going to be extremes that can't have their existence justified by anyone who you'd actually want to spend more than 3 minutes alone with (the aforementioned german porn and snuff films, for example).  but this thread seemed to be saying at times that all modern art was crap because it either didn't look photo realistic, didn't make the viewer happy or didn't fit into one of the other boxes that a viewer felt comfortable with.  all those feelings are fine, by the way.  art is subjective to the whims of the individual audience.  i'm just trying to say that i enjoy quite a bit of modern art and that i actually do feel that the stuff i like is, in fact, art.

p.s. just out of curiosity, how does Nighthawks make you feel?  actually, i'd love to hear what others think of when they see that painting. i love hopper's work but almost all of it gives me a sense of sadness.  i've always wondered why, though.
8360  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Olympics] China's doing a bang up job... on: August 13, 2008, 01:40:08 AM

Quote from: Moliere on August 13, 2008, 01:33:02 AM

Quote from: hepcat on August 13, 2008, 12:58:57 AM

you mean like posting self-righteous diatribes on an internet forum dedicated to console games?

 icon_lol


ahem

sorry...sorry...

dedicated to console AND pc gaming?
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