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161  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's for Lunch Today? on: July 10, 2014, 06:08:41 PM
Oh god, I love a good Reuben.   thumbsup
162  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Snowden on: July 10, 2014, 05:28:32 PM
With the latest revelation about U.S. spying, I think it's time we, as a country, finally admit the truth:

We are the real life Maxwell Smart of international espionage. 

The government should immediately issue shoe phones to all agents overseas.  A cone of silence needs to be installed in the White House.  And operatives need to be highly trained in the use of the "Would you believe?" method of getting out of scrapes.

That is all.
163  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sarah Palin demands...DEMANDS...impeachment. Can still see Russia from porch. on: July 10, 2014, 01:09:04 PM
I think Obama's made some mistakes (drone use, the NSA troubles to name two), but I also think he's been facing a GOP controlled house that has lost touch with its actual purpose and is now existing almost solely to bring down Obama instead of providing a measured and considered counterpoint to his presidency.

Boehner thinks our president is circumnavigating the normal avenues of politics through executive actions?

Reagan used executive orders 381 times during his presidency.  Bush Jr. issued 291.  Clinton 364.  Obama?

182

Boehner is performing a dog and pony show to save his seat.  Or at the very least, keep himself in the political arena when he does lose it.  If I didn't think Obama was actual better than Boehner, I would say Obama should countersue the House for the 52.4 million dollars of tax payer's money that was spent trying to repeal Obamacare 54 damn times.  But Obama understands that you go through the political process for crap like this, not through judicial means.
164  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: July 09, 2014, 07:57:23 PM
I bought this during the steam summer sale a few weeks back.  I really need to play it. 
165  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Sarah Palin demands...DEMANDS...impeachment. Can still see Russia from porch. on: July 09, 2014, 07:55:55 PM
I wonder if she has any significant supporters outside the tea party, or has she managed to alienate even that group to a large extent?  It certainly doesn't help your claims of political aspirations when you immediately quit your job as a governor in order to star on a tv show, for christ's sake.
166  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's for Lunch Today? on: July 09, 2014, 07:52:15 PM
That sucks.  You got dressed up AS Wendy for no reason then?
167  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's for Lunch Today? on: July 09, 2014, 06:11:33 PM
Probably whatever Gellar's having when he isn't looking.
168  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Sarah Palin demands...DEMANDS...impeachment. Can still see Russia from porch. on: July 09, 2014, 04:43:12 PM
And she's serious.

Well, as serious as you can be when you're simply trying to get another reality show.  At least Boehner understands that her political savvy is equal to her knowledge of rocket science.

I have to admit, her continued (albeit greatly reduced) clout in the GOP may turn out to be a godsend for the Dems come election time.  The only ones taking her seriously these days are those that the majority no longer take seriously.
169  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 09, 2014, 02:08:05 PM
That being said, I do hope that the site continues to consult with Issie and I on all membership approvals as they've done in the past.





<i keed, i keed>
170  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 09, 2014, 01:41:09 PM
Unfortunately, in his mind, this is just further proof that sites at which he gets kickback are just unfairly balanced towards liberals and/or Democrats.

That's the one charge I find annoying on any board.  It's not like the board moderators only allow admission to folks who are of one political belief.  If you feel that you're in the midst of people who don't share your beliefs and it's that frustrating, why not seek out a board that does mirror your beliefs?  It's not the site's responsibility to regulate its membership in order to agree with your belief system, for crying out loud.
171  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Is Carnivale worth watching? on: July 09, 2014, 01:32:30 PM
Ditto.  It was convoluted at times, and they often seemed unaware where the story was going, but it was also a fantastic piece of American Gothic horror nonetheless. 

Plus, you know, Clancy Brown!

172  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 09, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
NPR had one of the interviews (through a translator) with Scolari this morning.  He just kept saying how everything was going right for Germany and nothing was going right for Brazil.  It was kind of sad, really.  I suspect he's a pariah at home today.  I doubt he'll be coaching soccer at this level much longer.
173  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 09, 2014, 12:58:53 PM
I logged in this morning to see what was up and got the "you've been banned" message that everyone else was probably getting.  I immediately thought this thread was the reason.   icon_lol

Anyway, this thread has been off topic for a little while, unfortunately.  I'm probably to blame I suppose as I tried to reach out to Zeke in an effort to determine just how much of his posts he truly understands and/or believes.  I broke a rule I myself have cited numerous times in that regards.  Sorry.   icon_cry
174  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 09, 2014, 01:48:21 AM
You went a little too far with the homophobic slur.  So, like a child, you needed to be taught that what you did was wrong.  I feel I've made my point so I'm not angry with you.  I just hope that in spite of your need to be petulant when someone calls you on your behavior, you've actually learned something.
175  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 09, 2014, 01:10:22 AM
Can you provide the requested proof or not?
176  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 09, 2014, 01:06:46 AM

Quote from: Zekester on July 09, 2014, 01:03:43 AM

Quote from: hepcat on July 09, 2014, 12:51:19 AM

Quote from: Zekester on July 09, 2014, 12:38:42 AM

The world is so black and white to you, hepcat.

The word fag has been used with a broad meaning for decades. Try looking it up, and/or getting out more.

How did YOU mean it?  And give us a link to support your claim that it wasn't meant as a pejorative against homosexuals and that you used it correctly in that context.  It should be simple enough if your claim has any merit.

Why, is Lee a homsexual? I didn't make that assumption, why did you?

Can you or can you not provide the proof that backs up your earlier claim that "fag" has a broader meaning than just as an insult that relies on implying someone's gay, and that you used it correctly in that aspect?
177  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 09, 2014, 12:51:19 AM

Quote from: Zekester on July 09, 2014, 12:38:42 AM

The world is so black and white to you, hepcat.

The word fag has been used with a broad meaning for decades. Try looking it up, and/or getting out more.

How did YOU mean it?  And give us a link to support your claim that it wasn't meant as a pejorative against homosexuals and that you used it correctly in that context.  It should be simple enough if your claim has any merit.
178  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 09, 2014, 12:28:25 AM

Quote from: Zekester on July 08, 2014, 11:53:22 PM

In all seriousness do you think gays have exclusivity on the word? It doesn't occur to you that there are multiple meanings?

What other meaning does it have when you use it as you just did?

I assume you're okay with calling people you don't like the n word too?  I'm assuming it just means "stupid" to you.
179  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 08, 2014, 11:33:25 PM
I know you think it's funny in the same way an infant crapping in its diaper think's that's funny to everyone around him, but I'm going to actually take a few seconds to speak to you in a serious manner.  

We have folks here who are gay (and yes, I know that's leaving me open to yet another "you're gay!" line from you), and I have a brother who is gay.  To hear that word used as an insult is hurtful to them, I'm sure.  

So I ask you, in all seriousness, are you truly homophobic and hate gay people?  Or are you simply trying to be funny and don't really know any better?
180  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: July 08, 2014, 10:32:39 PM
Wow...that was...unexpected.   icon_eek
181  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 08, 2014, 10:31:04 PM
Zeke, calling someone a "fag" paints a picture of you as an uneducated hick who is married to and/or sleeping with an immediate family member.  

That or you're English and you just asked that he pay attention to your cigarette.

...that last one you'll get if you ask someone outside your peer group.

182  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 08, 2014, 06:31:52 PM
He did, just not in person.
183  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 08, 2014, 01:21:30 PM
Shouting as loud as you can and screaming that everyone is wrong while insulting them because they don't agree with you is not how you "balance" things.

However, it is what makes you funny (to me...I know some folks are irritated by you and worry you might be representative of more than just a fringe group of extremists).
184  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: July 08, 2014, 01:00:36 PM
...or in the middle.
185  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 08, 2014, 02:31:55 AM
 crybaby

No Zeke means fewer laughs.  This thread became tragic.
186  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: July 08, 2014, 02:15:46 AM
Anyone have any 1st hand opinions on meridian?  It sure does look pretty enough.
187  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 08, 2014, 01:12:44 AM
Now?
188  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 11:45:53 PM
I think zeke truly believes there's a study being held back by this administration that proves fruits and vegetables are bad for you while pizza sticks are healthy.

Edit:  on second thought I'm hoping that's true.
189  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 09:54:23 PM
I guess because making it bold wasn't enough I'll just have to quote it again:

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The new standards did not result in increased average food waste per person, contradicting anecdotal reports from food service directors, teachers, parents, and students that the regulations were causing an increase in waste due to both larger portion sizes and the requirement that students select a fruit or vegetable

Also

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In fact, there was a decrease in vegetable waste.

So no, nothing is being ignored.  Unless like a fool you just ignore words and stuff.   slywink
190  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
Did you perhaps all make your right testicles more attractive to Harmony Gold in such a way as to draw their attention during the nut purchasing process?  Glitter perhaps?  Or maybe some kind of velvet draping?
191  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 08:35:12 PM
Also, why the demand that it be specifically your left testicle?  Is the right nut less worthy for some reason?
192  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 07:31:18 PM
Rip, you've admitted in the past that you don't even freakin' pay taxes.  So it's not coming out of YOUR pocket anyway.  icon_lol

But on a more serious note, if you think kids weren't wasting food BEFORE the lunch changes than I have to wonder where the hell you've been your entire life.  

Also, if it's so horrible, why are parent associations  (who aren't politically motivated to fight against it because...OBAMA!) supporting it?

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Last week, the president of the National PTA, Otha Thornton, wrote a letter to members of Congress urging them to reject Mr. Aderholt’s effort to scale back the standards. “At a time when families are working hard to live healthy lives, school meals should be supporting families’ efforts, not working against them,” he wrote.

Edit:  this article pretty much debunks anecdotal claims about waste after the lunch program changes.

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Study details

For the study, the researchers tracked the food that students at four low-income elementary and middle schools in Boston selected — and threw away — during lunch. The researchers visited the schools twice before the new USDA standards were implemented (fall 2011) and twice afterward (fall 2012).

They found that the new standards did not cause an increase in food waste. About 60 percent to 75 percent of the vegetables and about 40 percent of the fruits ended up in lunchroom trash bins in 2012 — roughly the same amount as in 2011.

Still, that high level of waste is a problem and warrants serious attention, say the study’s authors.

Other key findings of the study include the following:

    After the new standards went into effect, the percentage of children selecting fruit rose significantly, from 53 percent to 76 percent. The percentage of the fruit eaten by these students dipped from 58 percent in 2011 to 55 percent in 2012, but that dip was not statistically significant, say the study’s authors.
    The number of children choosing a vegetable remained the same. But the amount of vegetables those students ate increased from 25 percent in 2011 to 41 percent 2012, as did the cups consumed (from 0.13 cups to 0.31 cups).
    Students also consumed more of their entrée after the standards were implemented — up from 72 percent in 2011 to 88 percent in 2012).

Admittedly, this was a small study, involving only 1,030 students. But it is the only study that has actually tracked how much food is being thrown away under the new USDA standards.

The study was run by the Harvard School of Public Health by the way.

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Some 32 million students eat school meals every day; for many low-income students, up to half their daily energy intake is from school meals. Under the previous dietary guidelines, school breakfasts and lunches were high in sodium and saturated fats and were low in whole grains and fiber. The new standards from the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) aimed to improve the nutritional quality of school meals by making whole grains, fruits, and vegetables more available, requiring the selection of a fruit or vegetable, increasing the portion sizes of fruits and vegetables, removing trans fats, and placing limits on total calories and sodium levels.

The researchers collected plate waste data among 1,030 students in four schools in an urban, low-income school district both before (fall 2011) and after (fall 2012) the new standards went into effect. Following the implementation of the new standards, fruit selection increased by 23.0%; average per person fruit consumption was unchanged, but because more students selected fruit, overall, more fruit was consumed post-implementation. In addition, consumption of vegetables per student increased by 16.2%. Entrée selection per student remained unchanged.  (Note: “Selection” means if a student took a food item, such as a fruit. “Consumption” refers to once a student selected the food, how much did they eat. The percentages refer to the average percent of the food that was consumed per person.)*

The new standards did not result in increased average food waste per person, contradicting anecdotal reports from food service directors, teachers, parents, and students that the regulations were causing an increase in waste due to both larger portion sizes and the requirement that students select a fruit or vegetable. In fact, there was a decrease in vegetable waste. However, the overall high levels of fruit and vegetable waste continued to be a problem—students discarded roughly 75% of vegetables before the USDA school meal standards went into effect and 60% of vegetables after the standards went into effect, and they threw out roughly 40% of fruits on their trays both before and after the implementation of the new standards. The authors say that schools must focus on improving food quality and palatability to reduce waste.*
193  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
Sooooo, in your world, punishing your kid by sending them to bed without supper if they don't eat their vegetables automatically equates to "we should totally abolish lunch and save money!"  

Come on, you can do better than that.   icon_lol

Rip logic:

Rip:  Kids will die if they miss a meal!
Hepcat:  Missing one meal won't kill a kid.
Rip:  Then why feed them lunch to begin with!

Anyway...

I found this slideshow of school lunches from around the world kind of neat (scroll down the page to see the presentation).
194  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 06:59:09 PM

Quote from: Rip on July 07, 2014, 06:57:00 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 07, 2014, 05:21:31 PM

Stuff totally unrelated to Rip's reply, but let's see where he tries to go!

So you are all for ending free lunch?

No, why?
195  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
When's Minmei going to sing?  I would like to be absent for that.
196  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
Wow, that turned sour rather quickly.   icon_cry

Wait...I know what's wrong...



We had a serious lack of Micronauts.
197  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 06:16:22 PM
This thread delivers in such a delightful way.   thumbsup
198  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 05:55:24 PM
I've always wanted a Wonder Twins/Breaking Bad hybrid series.
199  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 05:45:26 PM
News flash:  If I offer a kid a Snicker's bar instead of a salad, 9 out of 10 times they're going to lunge for the chocolate. That's why parents don't normally have a snicker's bar on their kid's plates at supper time.

ATB, CBS put up an example of common change to the menus.

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Monday:

Before:michelle obama, school lunch, usda, guidelines

    Bean and cheese burrito (5.3 oz) with mozzarella cheese (1 oz)
    Applesauce (1/4 cup)
    Orange juice (4 oz)
    2 percent milk (8 oz)


After:

    Turkey (1 oz) and low-fat cheese (0.5 oz) sandwich on whole wheat bread
    Refried beans (1/2 cup)
    Jicama (1/4 cup)
    Green pepper strips (1/4 cup)
    Cantaloupe wedges (1/2 cup)
    Skim milk (8 oz)
    Mustard (9 grams)
    Reduced fat mayonnaise (1 oz)
    Low-fat ranch drip (1 oz)

Michelle Obama is a monster!!   Roll Eyes
200  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 05:21:31 PM
So you'd rather have them get early onset diabetes than go hungry for one meal?  It's more harmful for them to eat that shit than it is to miss one damn meal.

Parents have been sending their kids to bed without supper for friggin' ever.  I don't see them dropping like flies over missing one meal, for christ's sake.

This wussy attitude of "waaahhh....my kid can't eat twizzlers for lunch instead of a healthy meal so we shouldn't rock the boat" is such a nanny state example of lax parenting that I'm surprised you endorse it.  Kids often need to be told what's good for them.  Period.

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