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161  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
Did you perhaps all make your right testicles more attractive to Harmony Gold in such a way as to draw their attention during the nut purchasing process?  Glitter perhaps?  Or maybe some kind of velvet draping?
162  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 08:35:12 PM
Also, why the demand that it be specifically your left testicle?  Is the right nut less worthy for some reason?
163  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 07:31:18 PM
Rip, you've admitted in the past that you don't even freakin' pay taxes.  So it's not coming out of YOUR pocket anyway.  icon_lol

But on a more serious note, if you think kids weren't wasting food BEFORE the lunch changes than I have to wonder where the hell you've been your entire life.  

Also, if it's so horrible, why are parent associations  (who aren't politically motivated to fight against it because...OBAMA!) supporting it?

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Last week, the president of the National PTA, Otha Thornton, wrote a letter to members of Congress urging them to reject Mr. Aderholt’s effort to scale back the standards. “At a time when families are working hard to live healthy lives, school meals should be supporting families’ efforts, not working against them,” he wrote.

Edit:  this article pretty much debunks anecdotal claims about waste after the lunch program changes.

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Study details

For the study, the researchers tracked the food that students at four low-income elementary and middle schools in Boston selected — and threw away — during lunch. The researchers visited the schools twice before the new USDA standards were implemented (fall 2011) and twice afterward (fall 2012).

They found that the new standards did not cause an increase in food waste. About 60 percent to 75 percent of the vegetables and about 40 percent of the fruits ended up in lunchroom trash bins in 2012 — roughly the same amount as in 2011.

Still, that high level of waste is a problem and warrants serious attention, say the study’s authors.

Other key findings of the study include the following:

    After the new standards went into effect, the percentage of children selecting fruit rose significantly, from 53 percent to 76 percent. The percentage of the fruit eaten by these students dipped from 58 percent in 2011 to 55 percent in 2012, but that dip was not statistically significant, say the study’s authors.
    The number of children choosing a vegetable remained the same. But the amount of vegetables those students ate increased from 25 percent in 2011 to 41 percent 2012, as did the cups consumed (from 0.13 cups to 0.31 cups).
    Students also consumed more of their entrée after the standards were implemented — up from 72 percent in 2011 to 88 percent in 2012).

Admittedly, this was a small study, involving only 1,030 students. But it is the only study that has actually tracked how much food is being thrown away under the new USDA standards.

The study was run by the Harvard School of Public Health by the way.

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Some 32 million students eat school meals every day; for many low-income students, up to half their daily energy intake is from school meals. Under the previous dietary guidelines, school breakfasts and lunches were high in sodium and saturated fats and were low in whole grains and fiber. The new standards from the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) aimed to improve the nutritional quality of school meals by making whole grains, fruits, and vegetables more available, requiring the selection of a fruit or vegetable, increasing the portion sizes of fruits and vegetables, removing trans fats, and placing limits on total calories and sodium levels.

The researchers collected plate waste data among 1,030 students in four schools in an urban, low-income school district both before (fall 2011) and after (fall 2012) the new standards went into effect. Following the implementation of the new standards, fruit selection increased by 23.0%; average per person fruit consumption was unchanged, but because more students selected fruit, overall, more fruit was consumed post-implementation. In addition, consumption of vegetables per student increased by 16.2%. Entrée selection per student remained unchanged.  (Note: “Selection” means if a student took a food item, such as a fruit. “Consumption” refers to once a student selected the food, how much did they eat. The percentages refer to the average percent of the food that was consumed per person.)*

The new standards did not result in increased average food waste per person, contradicting anecdotal reports from food service directors, teachers, parents, and students that the regulations were causing an increase in waste due to both larger portion sizes and the requirement that students select a fruit or vegetable. In fact, there was a decrease in vegetable waste. However, the overall high levels of fruit and vegetable waste continued to be a problem—students discarded roughly 75% of vegetables before the USDA school meal standards went into effect and 60% of vegetables after the standards went into effect, and they threw out roughly 40% of fruits on their trays both before and after the implementation of the new standards. The authors say that schools must focus on improving food quality and palatability to reduce waste.*
164  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
Sooooo, in your world, punishing your kid by sending them to bed without supper if they don't eat their vegetables automatically equates to "we should totally abolish lunch and save money!"  

Come on, you can do better than that.   icon_lol

Rip logic:

Rip:  Kids will die if they miss a meal!
Hepcat:  Missing one meal won't kill a kid.
Rip:  Then why feed them lunch to begin with!

Anyway...

I found this slideshow of school lunches from around the world kind of neat (scroll down the page to see the presentation).
165  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 06:59:09 PM

Quote from: Rip on July 07, 2014, 06:57:00 PM

Quote from: hepcat on July 07, 2014, 05:21:31 PM

Stuff totally unrelated to Rip's reply, but let's see where he tries to go!

So you are all for ending free lunch?

No, why?
166  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
When's Minmei going to sing?  I would like to be absent for that.
167  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
Wow, that turned sour rather quickly.   icon_cry

Wait...I know what's wrong...



We had a serious lack of Micronauts.
168  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 06:16:22 PM
This thread delivers in such a delightful way.   thumbsup
169  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 05:55:24 PM
I've always wanted a Wonder Twins/Breaking Bad hybrid series.
170  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 05:45:26 PM
News flash:  If I offer a kid a Snicker's bar instead of a salad, 9 out of 10 times they're going to lunge for the chocolate. That's why parents don't normally have a snicker's bar on their kid's plates at supper time.

ATB, CBS put up an example of common change to the menus.

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Monday:

Before:michelle obama, school lunch, usda, guidelines

    Bean and cheese burrito (5.3 oz) with mozzarella cheese (1 oz)
    Applesauce (1/4 cup)
    Orange juice (4 oz)
    2 percent milk (8 oz)


After:

    Turkey (1 oz) and low-fat cheese (0.5 oz) sandwich on whole wheat bread
    Refried beans (1/2 cup)
    Jicama (1/4 cup)
    Green pepper strips (1/4 cup)
    Cantaloupe wedges (1/2 cup)
    Skim milk (8 oz)
    Mustard (9 grams)
    Reduced fat mayonnaise (1 oz)
    Low-fat ranch drip (1 oz)

Michelle Obama is a monster!!   Roll Eyes
171  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 05:21:31 PM
So you'd rather have them get early onset diabetes than go hungry for one meal?  It's more harmful for them to eat that shit than it is to miss one damn meal.

Parents have been sending their kids to bed without supper for friggin' ever.  I don't see them dropping like flies over missing one meal, for christ's sake.

This wussy attitude of "waaahhh....my kid can't eat twizzlers for lunch instead of a healthy meal so we shouldn't rock the boat" is such a nanny state example of lax parenting that I'm surprised you endorse it.  Kids often need to be told what's good for them.  Period.

172  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 04:41:42 PM
You gotta be kidding me.  I thought you were a parent?  Do you routinely tell your children to eat their veggies...but only if they want to!

Of course kids don't want to eat healthy.  That's been true for...well...ever.   Name me one kid that doesn't want to go straight to desert at dinner and skip the broccoli? 

The answer isn't to say "Oh well, better you eat huge chunks of lard than nothing at all!".  It's to say "This is what you're getting.  Eat it or go hungry until you get home." 



173  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Kickstarter]Robotech Academy on: July 07, 2014, 02:07:00 PM
But didn't Harmony Gold mess with the original story to the point where it was considerably worse than the Japanese version?  I'm not sure continuing his vision is what a fan would want.
174  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tomorrow is July 1, will we have ATB's GOTY? on: July 07, 2014, 01:24:29 AM
It's way too soon to say for sure, but Divinity Original Sin is a strong contender in my book.  In spite of all its warts, it comes closest to capturing the feel of an old bioware game from the golden days of crpg's for me.  The combat is just sublime.
175  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 07, 2014, 01:02:31 AM
Even during a time of such divisive politics, getting upset with the First Lady for trying to introduce healthier meals into our school system just baffles me with its idiocy.  People are really angry that she wants kids to eat better when child obesity has become an epidemic in this country?  Amazing.  You have to be a special kind of nut job to find that upsetting.
176  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I had a pretty sad encounter today at Rite Aid on: July 04, 2014, 12:45:50 PM
Was there any doubt they could be?  Is there any doubt racism can exist within the heart of any person on earth?  If you're trying to insinuate that the media only covers examples of racism when it's directed towards whites, I would counter that that's mostly because they've grown tired of covering stories of racism by whites toward minorities after, you know, the entire life of this country.

That doesn't excuse any act of racism, but let's not trivialize such things by trying to claim it's fashionable to ignore it when the majority experiences it.
177  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 04, 2014, 12:39:18 PM
Well, I would say redneck hip, but yeah, I agree with you.
178  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I had a pretty sad encounter today at Rite Aid on: July 04, 2014, 02:26:24 AM
You owe me a new monitor.
179  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 04, 2014, 01:52:11 AM
All those guns and  not one person was able save a guy from getting beat to death right outside?  So much for the "Waaah, we need 'em to defend ourselves" excuse.   icon_twisted
180  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 03, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
I'm all for keeping Zeke posting, god knows I am.  But expending more than one sentence at a time on him is just a waste.  More than that and it's like trying to explain a combustible engine to a sofa cushion.
181  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 03, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
Again:   The Weghted Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you.
182  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 03, 2014, 05:00:47 PM
I like how you worked "straight" into that reply to keep him from panicking.
183  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 03, 2014, 03:44:17 PM
"World According to Zeke" I'd imagine.  That or "Who Am Zeke?" which would imply an existential crisis in his life.
184  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I had a pretty sad encounter today at Rite Aid on: July 03, 2014, 03:16:50 PM
There is no God if we don't get a Zeke reply soon.
185  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 03, 2014, 02:24:32 PM
Topics from past WAZ posts:

Why do we allow the choice of "white meat" when talking about chicken in restaurants or grocery stores?  White people are NOT chicken!  We're a brave lot!

What's with all this talk of a "Castle Doctrine"?  What kind of liberal plot is this?  Only castles can have doctors now?!?!

Who invented IQ tests and why don't they include a section on NASCAR?!?!

Fucking Magnets, How Do They Work???
186  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: WAZ 7/3/14 on: July 03, 2014, 01:57:39 PM
You see what I have to put up with at home?  Zeke is a self loathing homosexual who still refuses to admit we're legally allowed to get married now.   crybaby
187  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 02, 2014, 05:02:01 PM
but aren't ALL chaps ass-less by definition?
188  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 02, 2014, 04:38:40 PM
The independent thing is an ongoing joke with ATB.  But you're right on the money with everything else!  The Zeke and I were married in a civil union years ago.  Thankfully this country has opened its mind since then and we're planning a Fall wedding!
189  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 02, 2014, 03:47:31 PM
If ONLY there was a newsletter for all things Zeke!!!
190  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 02, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
I wish he had a newsletter.  I would create multiple gmail accounts just so I could be assured of not missing even one of them.   The Weghted Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you.
191  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [TV] Falling Skies onwards to Season 4! on: July 02, 2014, 01:24:55 AM
When you introduce nazis to your story in a sci if show, you've hit the bottom of the barrel when it comes to ideas.  See Defiance for another example.
192  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 02, 2014, 01:14:18 AM
My god, is there ANYTHING better than a Zeke post?  Especially when he's not quite sure what's going on?  I love the internet!  This almost makes up for the US loss against Belgium earlier.
193  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 01, 2014, 01:11:09 PM
You're just now figuring out that American politics has issues with bias?  You DO realize this has been the case for every single political system on earth since the invention of the words, "I don't agree!"?

I know you like to come across as someone who's above it all.  Someone who's capable of observing us earthlings with a fair and unbiased view, but let's cut the schtick:  you're just as biased as any of us to a particular world view.  Read the title of this thread, for cryin' out loud.

Now, how about trying to post with an objective bent for a while and drop the inflammatory rhetoric.  Then we can reevaluate your pleas for an unbiased discussion with serious intent.
194  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 01, 2014, 12:38:29 PM
You got that right, ATB.  Good thing we're independents!  We can laugh at everyone no matter what happens!   icon_razz
195  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 01, 2014, 11:27:44 AM
Sure.  Let's go with that.
196  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: July 01, 2014, 12:30:45 AM
Rip got his ass handed to him again in R&P over at OO.  He pops up here whenever that happens.  icon_lol
197  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: June 30, 2014, 04:41:24 PM
Next stop:  4th of July sale!
198  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Transformers 4: Age of Extinction on: June 30, 2014, 04:30:19 PM
Wait...you thought that was part of the show?  

Listen, I've got a bridge out in San Francisco I've been trying to sell cheap...
199  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: June 30, 2014, 01:59:01 PM

Quote from: Razgon on June 30, 2014, 10:19:52 AM

*taps mike*

*Mike gets a restraining order*
200  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Pacific Rim 2 Catch All - Because it is coming in 2017! on: June 29, 2014, 11:17:58 PM
I'm not sure what film you were watching, but Hellboy (and Hellboy 2) had fantastic pacing for an action film.  As did Blade II (the only decent film in the franchise, if you ask me).  

Pacific Rim was slow for me, yes.  But that was only because Guillermo tried too hard to flesh out his 2 dimensional characters.   It wasn't because he couldn't plot out a fight scene.  Quite the contrary. 
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