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121  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: June 27, 2014, 06:30:08 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 27, 2014, 12:00:42 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 26, 2014, 09:17:20 PM

should we have stayed out of World War II and NOT acted to prevent Germany from overrunning Europe?  

I'm not sure if there is a rolleyes big enough for this question.  

I was just teasing you and didn't really expect a paragraph in reply.   eek

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This should be something that makes you happy, no? Or because it's a Dem in the whitehouse it's okay to warmonger?

And remember, I'm an independent too.  It's the ONLY way to claim you're right no matter what happens.  I thank you for helping me realize that!
122  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: June 26, 2014, 09:17:20 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 26, 2014, 08:50:08 PM

How does helping in syria keep us alive?  

I wasn't being literal.

If I remember correctly, you believe we shouldn't involve ourselves in foreign affairs in any way whatsoever.  So you'll probably not understand the need for trying to keep regions stable in order to protect our interests (as Issie notes above).  But the need is very real nonetheless.

Very simple question that isn't meant to trivialize things, but is intended to find out a baseline where you're concerned:  should we have stayed out of World War II and NOT acted to prevent Germany from overrunning Europe?  
123  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama seeking 1/2 Billion for Syrian Opposition on: June 26, 2014, 08:43:24 PM
America (and almost every large nation) has provided support via weapons to countries they later end up fighting.  The problem is that sometimes you have to support the lesser evil to combat the much greater one.   We were buddies with Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war.  Then we weren't a few years later.

But not doing so can result in consequences far worse than looking hypocritical.

Diplomacy is a game that often just comes down to staying alive, not winning.
124  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: World Cup 2014 on: June 26, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
If they play like they did against Germany during the next game, the US doesn't have much of a chance.  They weren't horrible, but the certainly weren't aggressive enough.  It was like they were afraid to cross over to Germany's side of the field.  
125  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 26, 2014, 04:20:38 PM
You know that R will get replaced with a C in a ton of other places outside Cleveland...especially Pittsburgh.
126  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 26, 2014, 02:09:41 PM
One things for certain, from 1933 to 1938 marketing for the Cleveland Indians was handed over to someone's 9 year old nephew.
127  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 26, 2014, 01:07:52 PM
I think that would be a fair compromise.  Honor the people you've chosen as your trademark and all that.

I do wish they'd never changed Gund Arena to the Quicken Tax Shell Arena or whatever it is now.  I liked having a sports stadium that sounded like an STD.  icon_frown
128  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 10:41:35 PM
Man, I could go for some butter chicken right about now.
129  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 08:39:31 PM
Another group is planning a lawsuit against the Chief Wahoo logo for the Cleveland Indians.  Unlike Snyder though, Cleveland was already in the process of phasing out the logo in favor of a red block letter C.   I think they realize it was coming and they most likely won't be making as big a stink about it.  Fans, maybe a bit though.  But that's to be expected.
130  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [FILM] The Interview - Rogen and Franco kill Kim Jong-Un on: June 25, 2014, 06:10:29 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on June 25, 2014, 06:06:03 PM

UK Mirror
He added that there would be "merciless" retaliation saying: "If the US administration allows and defends the showing of the film, a merciless counter-measure will be taken."

Nic Cage has already sent his head shots to the NK film board.
131  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: June 25, 2014, 03:52:37 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 25, 2014, 03:40:24 PM

The supremes got one right!  

So now you can get stopped based on an anonymous call and they can swab your mouth for DNA, but they cannot search your phone! slywink

For you, it's cavity searches all the way.
132  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: June 25, 2014, 02:34:45 AM
Should I attempt to buy gunslinger a third time before steam reminds me I bought it years ago?
133  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 25, 2014, 01:43:19 AM
He's kind of just background noise wherever he goes.  If it helps his ego to think otherwise, then I say we all pretend he's doing so.
134  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 11:10:10 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 24, 2014, 10:05:59 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 24, 2014, 07:46:11 PM

Also, they don't have the power to make medicines (or anything) free.  Not sure where that concern even came from.   icon_confused
No but they do have the power to strip legally obtained TM's whenever they want apparently. So why not benefit mankind?

They didn't just do this out of the blue and of their own accord.  How many times does this need to be repeated?  

edit:  forgeforsaken beat me to it.

Quote from: ATB on June 24, 2014, 10:34:03 PM

I find the band name Niggas With Attitude offensive. Same with Black Entertainment Television...

Why?

You've never once been the target of either of those epithets.  You're just creating silly analogies.

But if you want to lash out effectively, then simply take your case to the uspto and claim that you find it offensive and want the trademark protections afforded them pulled.  Anyone can do it.  If we couldn't we'd be living in the government you oftentimes accuse us of having.

Quote from: ATB on June 24, 2014, 10:34:03 PM

Oh and perhaps the point that Zeke is trying to make is that why are people sitting around fretting about a team name even if if it is offensive to them?

Congratulations on coming to the conclusion that everyone who fought for civil rights or marriage equality that weren't a minority or gay were just busybodies.
135  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 07:46:11 PM
...or maybe to address a minority's decades long grievance that an offensive name is being used as a federally sanctioned trademark?

And just because they helped a minority, that doesn't mean they've used up all their power and can now no longer address other issues.  

Also, they don't have the power to make medicines (or anything) free.  Not sure where that concern even came from.   icon_confused

Would you rather have it that all rulings they make can never be altered by a plea from the people?

p.s. Snyder is FAR from being some poor schlep fighting for his rights in this matter.  He's "the man" you seem to distrust in most of your posts.  One minute you're upset because successful business people are getting their way, now you're upset when a successful businessman DOESN'T get his way?  Make up your mind, my man.    

Oh, and if Snyder loved the name so much, why did he ditch it when FedEx offered him a boatload of cash to change their stadium's name?  
136  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 06:50:56 PM
Time for Wonder to do some shopping first though...

137  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: June 24, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
I was tempted by Arma III but decided to hold off until a deeper discount is offered...which will probably be the Christmas season sale.  I did bite on Blackguards though.  I do love me some turn based combat gaming.
138  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
You must not be a fan of Tandori chicken then. 

The problem I've encountered at two different Pakistani places is the amount of spices they use.  It's about two to three times more than I've ever had at an Indian restaurant. 

Have you ever had southern Indian vegetarian food?  Especially a crepe like dish called a Dosa?  Good lord, you'll think you died and went to heaven.
139  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 06:26:20 PM
I live about a mile from Devon Avenue in Chicago, which is a huge Indian/Pakistani area.  Indian food is one of my favorite things.  However, I made the mistake of ordering essentially the same dishes I always order from Indian restaurants (Butter Chicken being the primary food of the gods that I order) at a Pakistani place once.  Two bites in I started to wish I had a medical alert bracelet.
140  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 06:14:57 PM

Quote from: Caine on June 24, 2014, 06:12:54 PM

Indian Tacos, if we are talking East Indian, would surely cause my bowels to simply give up and leave the body in search of a less hostile environment.

If we're talking Pakistani, yes.  Northern Indian might be okay.  

But man, Pakistani food uses spices that could cause a corpse to spontaneously come alive and say, "No thanks!".
141  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 06:09:08 PM

Quote from: Rip on June 24, 2014, 06:05:19 PM

Quote from: ATB on June 24, 2014, 04:18:21 PM

The problem I have with this is that government stepped in and voided a legally granted trademark because it was 'offensive.'



This.

This...

....proves some folks still aren't paying attention.

Do you believe any government based ruling should never be open to debate and/or change?

If so, why do you hate freedom?
142  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 05:26:34 PM
What'ya talkin' about?  The Zeke loves me, man!  Underneath all that froth is a friendship that has stood the test of time.
143  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
I have trouble understanding why someone who constantly rails against a government he feels shows undue favoritism to the rich and powerful would be up in arms over a minority successfully pleading their case in front of that same government...and winning their case.   icon_confused
144  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 04:23:21 PM
Yup.  They didn't tell them they couldn't use it, they simply said we're not going to protect your right to make money off it.  

Now they can appeal and if enough people find merit in that appeal, they'll reinstate it.  I hope they don't, but the matter isn't being decided entirely by one person or entity in a room who is dictating what's right and what's wrong, which is what you're essentially trying to infer.

Government sometimes works the way it should.  This is a prime example of that.
145  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 02:34:25 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 02:24:01 PM

And you're the only one here that actually considered that turnaround would be fair play  thumbsup to that.

Fascinating.  He took that portion of Wonder's reply as tacit support for his beliefs. 
146  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 02:22:44 PM
Ssshhhh....Zeke's waiting to spring his "I gotcha!" moment on us.  Don't tempt him to post until the NFL creates the Cincinnati Crackers.
147  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 02:11:31 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 02:04:18 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 24, 2014, 01:53:10 PM

You can rejoin the debate with a valid argument as soon as we have professional sport's teams called The Washington Whiteys or the Pittsburgh Palefaces then.

While I would not have cared about those names before, I sure will now.

Backlash, bitch.

Why don't you hang tight and avoid posting on this matter until that happens?  It will make your revenge all that more sweet.
148  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 01:53:10 PM
You can rejoin the debate with a valid argument as soon as we have professional sport's teams called The Washington Whiteys or the Pittsburgh Palefaces then.
149  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 01:50:34 PM
Every group has their own preference for a name.  As long as you're not grouping them together by skin color, they won't take insult.
150  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: June 24, 2014, 01:41:05 PM
Sorry, wasn't yellin' at you guys.  Was just surprised when they didn't show up on time on the steam sites.  They must have had a glitch in the system.  Took them almost 30 minutes to get them posted last night.  All's good though.  
151  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 01:32:49 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 01:31:33 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 24, 2014, 01:27:36 PM

Have I mentioned how much I enjoy everything that Zeke writes?   icon_lol

Nice response.

Continuing to debate this is foolish. There are a handful here that think like I do

There's Rip and...well...Rip.  Did I mention Rip?

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Just because we are the minority on this forum does not mean that we are wrong on the issue.

But it doesn't mean you're right either, as you try to erroneously claim at times.
152  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 01:27:36 PM
Have I mentioned how much I enjoy everything that Zeke writes?   icon_lol

It's like having our own private cautionary tale right here on GT.  We really need to get his words out there so that we can start showing the right what's happening.
153  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 01:23:44 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 01:21:30 PM

If you would just let the word go, is that not giving up control?

And that's exactly what the government did.  They gave up control of the word.  You still really don't understand what happened, do you?

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If Native Americans don't like the name of the team why not just band together and over-run the stadium, force fan entry, kick the crap out of the owner,

Because they're smarter than you and understand the basic concepts of how one works within a democracy to get what they want?
154  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 01:15:50 PM

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 12:15:55 PM

and hepcat.....who is the more racist? the one who goes through life enjoying a football game, regardless of their names? or seeing racism in everything?

The guy who knows it has been viewed as a racist sobriquet by a number of Native Americans for decades and yet doesn't want to believe that it's racist because it doesn't impact him in any way?

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 12:15:55 PM

some of you do realize that thousands of non-Indian people have gone years never once thinking of the Washington Redskins as insulting or Native Indians as less-than, but instead just rooting for their team.

Yes...but are you aware that the American population is measured in the hundreds of millions?   icon_lol

Here's a question for you, Zekeroni.  Are you still under the impression that this ruling prevents the team from using Redskin as a name, or on its logos?

Quote from: Zekester on June 24, 2014, 12:15:55 PM

of course i'm taking the issue to the extremes, to show the total absurdity of it. some of you look at the world through PC glasses, and some of us don't.

And then there's you...who really should see an optometrist.

Quote from: wonderpug on June 24, 2014, 12:24:07 PM

So if I understand you right,

Strap in, boys!  Next stop:  Zeke's mind.  Make sure you keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle at all times.  We've lost a few tourists to madness recently and I don't want a repeat of the All Muslims Should Be Killed riot of '12!
155  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Daily, Weekly, Midweek, Weekend and all other sales! on: June 24, 2014, 01:09:50 AM
Hey, where's the updated flash and community sales?  Their web site is missing 'em too.
156  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 24, 2014, 01:08:30 AM
You have to admit though, it's interesting to see what he'll write next.  The moment you think he can't possibly go further down the rabbit hole, he grabs a shovel and gleefully leaps in and begins searching for a new bottom.
157  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Summer Sale Haul 2014 on: June 23, 2014, 07:59:20 PM
I have no idea why I added Planetary Annihilation to my haul, but I did.  By many accounts, it's not all that great.  However, the chance to buy a game that's normally 60 bucks (or higher, as the initial buy in was) for 17 bucks was just too tempting.
158  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Redskins Lose Trademark on: June 23, 2014, 07:55:31 PM
When I wrote it earlier, it was meant as an example of how offensive the name Redskin could be to some. 

Try to guess how Rip meant it...
159  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: June 23, 2014, 04:27:12 PM
I guess I just feel that way because the highest seat seems to be either occupied or potentially occupied by someone in the immediate family of either the Bush clan or the Clinton clan over the last few elections/upcoming election.
160  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: SCOTUS Screws Us Again: Welcome to the Police State! on: June 23, 2014, 01:18:57 PM
My issue right now is politics is becoming more and more of a dynasty.  I know the Adams family did it first, but with the Bush clan putting the same combo on the throne, and then Hillary Clinton trying to wrest control of the country while another Bush sits down in Florida plotting from his Iron Throne, it's becoming more like a bad fantasy movie every year.
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