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8881  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 10, 2005, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: "coopasonic"
Quote from: "naednek"
so can someone explain to me how people are making those designs?  I've looked in the decal section, and I'm not seeing anything remotely similar to what people are making.


Like I said, very powerful, very primitive tools. I'd rather just slap on some vinyl's ala NFSU, hence my forza cars are all just one solid paint color.


Winnar.  Though I have been picking the most obnoxious colors I can find, and adding in a lot of their "carbon fiber look" paint on the hoods.

gellar
8882  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 09, 2005, 12:16:59 AM
Quote from: "wonderpug"
Quote from: "gellar"
Cone race?

Cone race = autocross
In the free race mode or whatever, (not career,) in the point to point section there are a bunch of autocross runs that you can do.


Found it smile.

Driver, your time has been defeated smile

gellar
8883  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 08, 2005, 11:09:24 PM
Quote from: "naednek"
Quote from: "gellar"
Quote from: "stiffler"
Being able to see the track times of people in your friends list is a little thing that goes a long way.  Not many friends play it, but I beat a couple of Driver's times.  w00t!


Completely agree.  Right now I think all I have are driver and naednek, but it is fun to see how much I pwn naednek slywink

gellar (xbox live tag: tehgellar)

i hardly call 2 seconds pwn.  Besides, yesterday you told me you beat me, I go back and checked, and I still see I'm up by 5 seconds.  I'll have to check again since I havne't checked since late last night after you telling me you so called shattered me Tongue


I think you're looking at something else, since I have you by nearly 10 seconds in RWD hill climb 1, and 8 seconds in RWD hill climb 2 (including a spin slywink).

gellar
8884  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 08, 2005, 10:59:58 PM
Quote from: "Driver"
Quote from: "gellar"
Quote from: "stiffler"
Being able to see the track times of people in your friends list is a little thing that goes a long way.  Not many friends play it, but I beat a couple of Driver's times.  w00t!


Completely agree.  Right now I think all I have are driver and naednek, but it is fun to see how much I pwn naednek slywink

gellar (xbox live tag: tehgellar)


Driver wasn't even trying. smile  When I looked yesterday, I was #8 on the leaderbaord for the first cone race (the airport course).  Beat that!  slywink


Cone race?

gellar
8885  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 08, 2005, 08:19:16 PM
Quote from: "stiffler"
Being able to see the track times of people in your friends list is a little thing that goes a long way.  Not many friends play it, but I beat a couple of Driver's times.  w00t!


Completely agree.  Right now I think all I have are driver and naednek, but it is fun to see how much I pwn naednek slywink

gellar (xbox live tag: tehgellar)
8886  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 07, 2005, 06:44:09 AM
Eh, I caved and bought it since I have nothing better to do tomorrow.

Impressions after about 30 mins of playing:
1)  The game is pretty good.
2)  The car models are definitely worse than GT4.  By a significant margin.
3)  The environments are way, way better than GT4.
4)  Lots of cool real world tracks, best as I can tell.  Neat.
5)  The tire breakaway model is seemingly a bit too dramatized.  Brakes lock up ridiculously quickly, and drifting through a turn is a common appearance in a RWD or AWD car.  Of course, none of the cars that I've driven in the game are cars I've driven in real life, so I can't judge on the actual 'realism'.  It does *feel* wonky though.
6)  Controls pretty well by controller.  You can tell the cars have quasi realistic physics.  It's better than GT4 by controller, but worse than GT4 with the force feedback wheel.
7)  The music BLOWS HARDCORE.
Cool  I really dislike the way they handle a manual transmission.  First, they penalize you for over-reving the engine even in the slightest.  In 99% of production cars today, you can bounce it off the rev limiter fairly frequently and never have any problems.  Apparently, NO cars in Forza have a rev limiter.  Also, they don't have an option to use the X/A button as Up/Downshift.  I don't like any of the configurable options.  These two have led me to drive with an automatic, and that just feels wrong.
9)  AI at medium difficulty is slow.  Even on a 2 lap race, I've won by as many as 8 seconds.
10)  For my driving style, the racing line doesn't work.  I drive faster with it off.  Seems like a cool idea for the newer drivers though.

Overall, it's a damn fine game.  I wish I had a wheel for it.  Forza with a controller >> GT4 with a controller, but it's definitely not better than GT4 with the Logitech wheel.  Still though, for the XBox, it's a great option.

gellar
8887  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 06, 2005, 05:46:21 PM
I may get this and re-up to Live just so I can school you mofoz in the ugliest car I can possibly create.

gellar
8888  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 06, 2005, 03:59:09 PM


NOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

gellar
8889  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 05, 2005, 01:01:00 AM
Quote from: "wonderpug"
Quote from: "gellar"
I'll Gamefly it sometime down the line, but I certainly don't feel compelled to buy it.

gellar

I just took my '99 Subaru 2.5 RS, swapped in a WRX STi engine, then took it into a Lancer vs. Impreza hill climb on a Japanese mountain road.  Come on now, you want this game.


Meh... stuff like that doesn't matter to me.  I modify my car cause it's... my car.  In games, all I want to do is drive.

The ideal racing game would be one where they took one single car, get the physics on it absolutely PERFECT, let me change realistic configuration options (really just suspension settings), and let me drive on real world tracks.  The closest there is to this is GTR right now.  Of course, I'm also a very small portion of the market, so I definitely understand the appeal of a Forza smile

gellar
8890  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 04, 2005, 07:24:34 PM
I'm referring to the two things I pulled out of the review, as they are really the two major pieces of the review I was concerned about.  I don't care about customization in the very least, actually.

And as far as your point 4, so in order to alleviate the apparently over aggressive AI, I have to dumb down the driving model?  No thanks.  I like difficult driving games.  Automobiles are my number 1 hobby.  I "competitively" drive on the weekends, from Auto-X, to Time Trials at local tracks, to Monte Carlo style rallies.  I just don't want a game that is frustrating because the AI drives unrealistically aggressively.  I get that enough with online NASCAR races.  At least then I have someone to yell at.

gellar
8891  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 04, 2005, 06:53:40 PM
They aren't factual errors.  They're opinions.

And actually, I prefer GTR smile

gellar
8892  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 04, 2005, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: "Fuzzballx"
Please read the teamxbox and 1up reviews.

The IGN review said a lot of stuff that's completely bunk, there's threads on almost every Forza forum flaming the IGN reviewer for being an idiot including the IGN forum.

If your deciding not to buy based on the ign review then the bad guys win this one...give it a rent to try it at least.


IGN still gave the game a 9.0, so I'd figure those two critiques are fairly accurate.  Even the Team XBox agrees regarding the graphics.  I won't read the 1up review, because I honestly don't trust any review that gives any game a perfect score.

The game seems very, very good.  The two issues above, however, seem very, very valid.  The gamespot review touched on overly aggressive AI.

I have no doubt that this is a 90-95% game.  It's just not one I personally need.  It won't get playtime away from GTR, on account that GTR is an actual sim.  It probably won't get playtime away from GT4, since it seems as though it's very, very similar and its major pluses are taken away by not having a wheel for the XBox.

I'll Gamefly it sometime down the line, but I certainly don't feel compelled to buy it.

gellar
8893  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 04, 2005, 06:24:17 PM
Ugh... two quotes from the IGN review have tossed me from "on the fence" to "completely out"

Quote
My conclusion on the AI? It's not as gentle or as soft as in GT4. It will hit you, mistakenly or not. It occasionally does a little rubber band catch-up, and it's certainly smart and interesting. It's definitively aggressive and sometimes it's just plain brutal -- for better or for worse. I personally liked the challenge of a fierce and unpredictable AI -- it makes the single-player game that much more realistic. But my warning is this: Be prepared for a challenge and frustration.


I experience enough challenge and frustration at work.  I do not want that out of a video game.

Quote
The in-game graphics are also good, but not great. Compared to a number of racers, specifically GT4, Forza holds up pretty well, but direct comparisons to that lowly PS2 game (how dare I!) prove a little disappointing. First, the car models aren't as good. They're just not. The car models are again of high quality, but they're not terribly refined, they're often blocky and lack detail, and in some cases, they just don't bring out the beauty of that particular model (whether it's an RX7 or a GT Challenger). Again, they're respectable, just not brilliant.


Not as pretty as GT4?  No wheel?  Frustrating, bumping AI?

No thanks.

gellar
8894  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 03, 2005, 09:10:52 PM
The price is the biggest obstacle.  I got the Logitech wheel because it was USB and would work on my PC as well.  A $150 wheel with no FFB for one game is really rather silly when you think about it.

gellar
8895  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 03, 2005, 07:45:19 PM
Ok let me rephrase that:  No *good* wheel for the XBox slywink

gellar
8896  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Forza Motorsport impressions here! on: May 03, 2005, 07:05:01 PM
I'm taking the wait and see on this one... no wheel for the XBox, so I don't know how this would get in front of GT4 or GTR on my playlist.

Might get it this weekend if the impressions are overly favorable though.

gellar
8897  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Post your Ride! Car pics! [56k Warning] on: April 21, 2005, 08:45:50 PM
^^

SV650?  The first thing I'm doing if I ever get out of LA is buying one of those.

gellar
8898  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Post your Ride! Car pics! [56k Warning] on: April 21, 2005, 05:38:28 PM
LOVE the GTO.

gellar
8899  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Hybrid Cars? on: April 21, 2005, 06:18:03 AM
Quote from: "disarm"
Quote from: "gellar"
Quote from: "disarm"
thanks for the tips gellar...i'll keep all that in mind as the time gets a little closer.  i'm really hoping to work something out on the WRX, but the price difference of around $5K may be a big factor in the decision.  after driving the same car for the last nine years, i'm definitely ready for something new Cool


Price difference of $5k from the WRX to which car?

gellar

sorry if that wasn't clear...mentioned a WRX vs. Acura RSX in my earlier post.  from what i've seen both at the dealer and on Edmunds, it's about a $5K difference between a WRX and an Acura RSX (not a Type-S).  they're significantly different cars, but it's what i've narrowed my decision down to at this point...both nice cars, a lot of fun to drive, and fulfill my lifelong desire to own a car with a three-letter name ending in X Cool


When I bought my first Subaru, my final decision was between the RSX Type-S and the WRX.  I love both cars.  Ultimately, the Subaru won for me because 1) AWD, 2) 4 doors, 3) A bit faster, 4) was "different".  The RSX has a SPECTACULAR interior, better handling out of the box (IMHO), and a really damn nice 6 speed gearbox.  You can't really go wrong though smile

gellar
8900  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Post your Ride! Car pics! [56k Warning] on: April 20, 2005, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: "HankRaptor"
I see why GM is posting MAJOR losses. All the cars here are Japanese, except the mustang..



I'd love to buy an American made car, though not necessarily by an American manufacturer, since as ThinJ stated, they might be made in Mexico. Problem is, there wasn't a single American car in my price range that compared to mine.  When Ford or GM makes a FUN $30k car, I will buy it.  Until then, Mitubishi and Subaru seem to have a lock on that market.

gellar
8901  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Hybrid Cars? on: April 20, 2005, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: "disarm"
thanks for the tips gellar...i'll keep all that in mind as the time gets a little closer.  i'm really hoping to work something out on the WRX, but the price difference of around $5K may be a big factor in the decision.  after driving the same car for the last nine years, i'm definitely ready for something new Cool


Price difference of $5k from the WRX to which car?

gellar
8902  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Hybrid Cars? on: April 20, 2005, 05:47:37 PM
Quote from: "disarm"
Quote from: "Knightshade Dragon"
The wife chewed the dealer to 14998 down from 18998 and we took 1000 cash back on the deal.  At that point we pulled the ace as we had our own financing..guess you don't make it back on the kickback eh fellas?  (Wasn't like they stopped trying.  "We can give it a shot, maybe we can get you a lower rate...can't hurt right?")

All said and done I think we did pretty damned well.

i'm hoping to buy a new car in about a month or so and was thinking about doing the same thing...arranging for financing through my bank if they can give me a good deal, then not tell the dealer that until we've already settled on a good price.  it won't always make a difference, but it does work out once in a while...'

congrats on the new car!  as for the car choice...i haven't driven a Mazda3, but i did take a Mazda6 for a test drive and was pleasantly surprised.  i've decided it's not really the kind of car i want right now though...not as a single 26-year old guy.  i have my eye on either a Subaru WRX or an Acura RSX right now Cool


To be honest, most dealer's don't care all that much about financing.  There's certainly some money to be had there, but not enough for them to care a great deal.  They really just want to sell the car.

For a relatively popular car such as a WRX or RSX, the very best stratagery (I love misspelling that word) to get the best price is to email a bunch of deals in your area what it is you're looking for, as well as the price you want to pay.  Start at below invoice (can be found on edmunds.com).  The Internet Fleet Sales people are well aware of the informationa available on the internet, and don't try to even get you close to MSRP.  They make up their sales in volume and effort (or lack thereof, since Internet people generally don't require a lot of selling).  So long as you start at a fair price, you can get the price you want.

For example, the last 3 cars I've purchased using this method:
2003 Subaru WRX (Purchased December 2003) - MSRP: $25,000 - Invoice: $23,000 - I paid: $22,000
2005 Honda Accord EX (Purchased May 2004) - MSRP: $23,000 - Invoice: $20,000 - I paid: $19,000
2005 Subaru WRX STi (Purchased September 2004) - MSRP: $32,295 - Invoice: $30,000 - I paid: $30,000

In each purchase, I spent no more than 2 hours at the dealer (From Step in to step out, including: test drive, finance, paperwork, etc..).  I also financed each one through my bank, prior to going into the dealer.

Also, the Mazda 3 is a damn fine automobile smile

gellar
8903  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Post your Ride! Car pics! [56k Warning] on: April 20, 2005, 05:34:19 PM
Love the new mustang.  Not really what I'd look for performance wise in a vehicle, but she sure is perdy.

gellar
8904  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Post your Ride! Car pics! [56k Warning] on: April 20, 2005, 05:19:31 AM
My baby:






8905  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: EA unveils a bit of Madden 2006/NCAA 2006 on: April 14, 2005, 11:35:30 PM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
EA unveiled some stuff on Madden 2006 yesterday.  They've turned their focus to the offensive side of the field and are including a quarterback's field of view (outlined by a flashlight-like cone) for more narrow passing.  This means if you aren't looking at the receiver you want to throw to you probably aren't going to have an accurate throw to them.  For instance, Peyton Manning, since he has such a high awareness rating will have a larger cone than a 3rd string quarterback.  The cone is supposed to help tone down the amount of passes thrown in a game and put the ball in the running back's hands more often.

NCAA 2006 has a "Race to the Heisman" mode where you play as a high-school graduate and take them through to the Heisman and into Madden 2006.

Obviously more will be unveiled at E3, but since these are the only two football games in town it will be interesting to see if EA sits on its laurels for the most part or goes that extra mile to bring something good to the table.


That Madden feature sounds pretty damn awesome.  Not sure about the NCAA one, but hell... could be cool too.

gellar
8906  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Just cant justify buying a PSP. on: April 12, 2005, 03:59:58 AM
Quote from: "-Lord Ebonstone-"
Quote from: "angrycoder"
Quote from: "-Lord Ebonstone-"
 The ONLY instance that the console/handheld shared library has occurred is with the Sega NOMAD, except then you didn't need a Genesis since the NOMAD could be plugged into a wall and could be connected to a TV as well as played with batteries on the go.


Minor nitpick, you forgot about the Turbo Express. That was a handheld system that would play TG-16 games.
Indeed I did!  IIRC, that was even less popular than the NOMAD, though...  :?


Jesus... I don't even remember the NOMAD at all.  What a cool toy... wonder why I never got one.

gellar
8907  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Do you post at the Octopus Overlords too ? on: April 12, 2005, 03:47:02 AM
Quote from: "unbreakable"
Quote from: "gellar"
Quote from: "mytocles"
Quote
And Unbreakable.


Quote
Unbreakable, I'd absolutely punch him in the face if I ever met him.
 

oh, duh, i get it - it's a joke, right? Tongue  i often don't remember who posts what, so i thought... geese, i don't remember unbreakable being bad:?... i finally figured it out... sorry, un-b!


No joke.  Nothing he posted on these forums, or on OO, or even GG.  A #gonegold IRC thing.

Quote from: "warning"

And I call dibs on the next Weekly OO vs. CG thread.  I'll start it on 4-18 at 6:00 p.m. sharp.  Be there or be square!


At the bike racks, foo.

It's broughten.

gellar


Pffff... wow, you still have your panties in a bunch over me saying I wasnt tony72?  Talk about being a sissy; it isnt like I dissed you (or anybody) in #GG, much less did anything to provoke physical violence.  Having said that, you are welcome to try, but you had best make your first punch count, because you wont get more than one attempt.  I'll even offer you my address, in the off chance you are man enough to back up your threats.

Anyhow, the #GG experience was a pretty good... experiment, I guess you could call it.  I was trying to see what this 'team' thing was all about, and I learned a valuable lesson, which is that seeking the approval of any group of people, no matter how intelligent they are, is ultimately a stupid thing.  People, in large groups, are influenced more by emotion and illogic than they are by intelligence and morality, a fact political and religious leaders have been exploiting for fun and profit since the dawn of mankind.


And the lies begin again... but... totally not worth it.  Here's where I exit the thread.

gellar
8908  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Do you post at the Octopus Overlords too ? on: April 11, 2005, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: "mytocles"
Quote
And Unbreakable.


Quote
Unbreakable, I'd absolutely punch him in the face if I ever met him.
 

oh, duh, i get it - it's a joke, right? Tongue  i often don't remember who posts what, so i thought... geese, i don't remember unbreakable being bad:?... i finally figured it out... sorry, un-b!


No joke.  Nothing he posted on these forums, or on OO, or even GG.  A #gonegold IRC thing.

Quote from: "warning"

And I call dibs on the next Weekly OO vs. CG thread.  I'll start it on 4-18 at 6:00 p.m. sharp.  Be there or be square!


At the bike racks, foo.

It's broughten.

gellar
8909  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Do you post at the Octopus Overlords too ? on: April 11, 2005, 10:16:57 PM
I'm the opposite.  I rarely post in the gaming areas, so I spend the majority of the time over at OO.  I find the Off-Topic area to be a lot more mentally stimulating, and there are a LOT more topics in it.  I don't venture into R&P much, though.

When I do post games, I post PC over there and Console over here.  Seems to work out ok.

Apart from that, I actually prefer the way this site is ran over the way OO is ran (less unnecessary pomp and circumstance over here, much more straight forward).  There are just more of the posters I enjoy over there.

And then there are Unbreakable and LE over here.  LE isn't so bad, but he can go totally nuts every now and then.  Unbreakable, I'd absolutely punch him in the face if I ever met him.

gellar
8910  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Do you post at the Octopus Overlords too ? on: April 11, 2005, 09:17:19 PM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
Quote from: "Rage"
I think the poll is funny, as I am sure that jpinard knows the only person that fits into the latter category is Crowley.

 


Ebonstone too, I think.


And Unbreakable.

gellar
8911  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Can anyone do a reverse lookup on gone gold? on: April 10, 2005, 10:13:51 PM
Just did a lookup.  Rich will own the domain until mid 2006.

gellar
8912  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Hybrid Cars? on: April 06, 2005, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: "Knightshade Dragon"
I priced a new one (2005 Prius) at $24k which is WAY out of my price range.  I priced a used one (2004 Prius) with ~14k miles on it for about $16k  which seems more reasonable.  The gas mileage alone should save me about 600 bucks a year or more.


Think of what comperable cars you can get and how much they cost though... If the $600 you save per year doesn't recoup your losses within 4 years or so, the hybrid is totally not worth it.

gellar
8913  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Dell LCD Monitor Questions on: April 05, 2005, 07:42:06 PM
Quote from: "Rage"
Ok so playing UT2k4 means you are at least a casual shooter gamer-was there any noticeable ghosting, or at least enough to annoy? Do yoyu have any backlight bleed?


I have the 2001FP and honestly, it hasn't shown any issues with any game I've thrown at it.  FPS or otherwise.  Looks great.

gellar
8914  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / What WoW Mods do you run? on: April 04, 2005, 11:53:54 PM
Quote from: "naednek"


Weren't you the guy in #gg saying that this was unnecessary? slywink

gellar
8915  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PSP Cases? on: March 28, 2005, 06:16:01 AM
Yeah so... the one Sony shipped with the thing is awful.  Anyone buy a decent carrying case they like?  Preferably small, but sturdy and able to carry a UMD or two?

gellar
8916  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Yet another PSP topic - What one (maybe 2) game(s)? on: March 27, 2005, 11:09:23 PM
I lied... picked one up last night while I was at Target for some random reason.

Got Tiger Woods with it.  Pretty fun game.  Will probably get Lumines or Wipeout this week... but Tiger's got me happy so far.

Neat system.

gellar
8917  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Yet another PSP topic - What one (maybe 2) game(s)? on: March 25, 2005, 04:58:59 AM
Meh... they were sold out at Best Buy.  I think the first day urge just got to me.  My shiny new LCD comes tomorrow, so who knows when I'll have the urge to blow the cash on a PSP again. smile

gellar
8918  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Yet another PSP topic - What one (maybe 2) game(s)? on: March 24, 2005, 10:50:28 PM
So I'm going to succumb to the temptation and pick up a PSP... but I have no idea which game to get?  Any thoughts on what the best overall launch title to get?

gellar
8919  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / A world without gone gold. Six month mark on: March 21, 2005, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: "Rage"
Quote from: "gellar"
Quote from: "TC Weidner"
Ah the irony is delicous. Rage, all high and mighty about being left high and dry, of course it was this same guy who did the EXACT same thing to a guild he helped found and lead. Of course you weren't crippled and close to death a dozen times though.

 Those in glass houses...


Rich created, paid for and when possible updated and maintained GG and we all should be grateful he did for all those years.  We have no idea what has happened to Rich but I do believe he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 My personal guess is that Rich probably had another very bad turn health wise and Mary Joe most probably was sick of all the GG stuff and just shut it down , I know my wife would do that very same thing to all my sites if god forbid we were in their shoes.

 To Rich, Thanks for the memories and here's hoping if you are still with us, that things are better today than they were yesterday.


A hearty "werd" to you sir.  Couldn't have said it better myself.

gellar


So, you are comparing somethign that happened now....5 years ago to a guild of maybe 30-40 to a guy who ran a website that serviced a forums of ...thousands? Not to mention that I have talked this particular issue out and apologized for it...what, maybe dozens of times since then? So, bringing it up is to troll, makes you look like you have absolutely no capacity to move on or accept an apology, and makes you come of as a real dick. Fuck off. I've made my apologies. I meant them. I didn't hurt your mother or your dog. It was a game. It was 5 goddamn years ago. I fucked up. Im sorry. Either move on or just avoid anything I say, because I dont want to have to keep having this fight with, literally, the three of you that have to be assholes everytime I post anything.

Gellar, you I am suprised about. After all this time and all these posts you come back with this?


Hey Rage... I have no ill will towards you about what you did.  I understand it.  I'm just agreeing with the irony of your stance on Rich/GG when you yourself should likely understand more than most what Rich probably went through/is going through.

I "werded" that and the rest of TC's post as well.  It's based on absolutely nothing against what you did then, just the irony of your attack on Rich now.  That and I do definitely think Rich deserves the benefit of the doubt.

gellar
8920  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / A world without gone gold. Six month mark on: March 21, 2005, 06:52:10 PM
Quote from: "TC Weidner"
Ah the irony is delicous. Rage, all high and mighty about being left high and dry, of course it was this same guy who did the EXACT same thing to a guild he helped found and lead. Of course you weren't crippled and close to death a dozen times though.

 Those in glass houses...


Rich created, paid for and when possible updated and maintained GG and we all should be grateful he did for all those years.  We have no idea what has happened to Rich but I do believe he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 My personal guess is that Rich probably had another very bad turn health wise and Mary Joe most probably was sick of all the GG stuff and just shut it down , I know my wife would do that very same thing to all my sites if god forbid we were in their shoes.

 To Rich, Thanks for the memories and here's hoping if you are still with us, that things are better today than they were yesterday.


A hearty "werd" to you sir.  Couldn't have said it better myself.

gellar
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