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8321  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Company of Heroes Impressions on: September 27, 2006, 07:15:10 PM

Quote from: Thin_J on September 27, 2006, 05:47:15 PM

Quote from: gellar on September 27, 2006, 02:24:59 PM

Yeah last night was pretty funny.  We had so much of the map covered before we even saw your tanks that it was a bit unfair.  I gotta admit though, there was a scary moment when I saw a couple of Tigers knowing I only had 2 Shermans.

gellar

CSL's airdropped AT-Guns killed all three of them I think. Both of Calv's regular Tigers and my Ace along with them.

Cecil and I had the strategy of: Gellar's Shermans dance around and distract the tanks while Cecil blows them up with infantry.

My favorite moment of the night was when I managed to maneuver in such a way that Calvin had two tanks stacked up both firing at me... and one of the tanks shot his other tank RIGHT up the rear armor.  It was glorious (and totally accidental).

gellar
8322  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: No Rumble....No Problem? on: September 27, 2006, 04:56:05 PM
I don't care.  I find it useless, but sometimes entertaining.  More often than not, I wouldn't notice if it was missing.

Force feedback, on the other hand, is important.
8323  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Company of Heroes Impressions on: September 27, 2006, 02:24:59 PM
Yeah last night was pretty funny.  We had so much of the map covered before we even saw your tanks that it was a bit unfair.  I gotta admit though, there was a scary moment when I saw a couple of Tigers knowing I only had 2 Shermans.

gellar
8324  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 games to cost $75 to $85 bucks?? on: September 26, 2006, 04:51:27 PM

Quote from: Fellow on September 26, 2006, 04:09:28 PM

So Sonystyle has some PS3 games for pre-order at $59.99. Guess that wraps that, at least for now.

Oh sure, like we can trust Sonystyle for accurate information on what they charge for a game.

* gellar trusts NO ONE.
8325  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NBA 2K7 vs Live 07 on: September 26, 2006, 03:53:46 PM
I can't see myself getting either.  I just don't like the pro game enough to play it.  I may pick up NCAA 2k7 though.

gellar
8326  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Weekend Recap: What'd You Play? 25/Sep/06 on: September 25, 2006, 07:05:22 PM
Company of Heroes and NHL 2007.

Quality time was spent with each.

gellar
8327  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Company of Heroes retail name list on: September 25, 2006, 07:03:44 PM
gellar
8328  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Company of Heroes Impressions on: September 25, 2006, 07:03:10 PM
MNF tonight... so unless the game gets boring, I'm probably out.

gellar
8329  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Current Hall of Fame QBs on: September 25, 2006, 06:08:20 PM
Alex Smith is clearly a lock for the Hall of Fame.

Anyone who takes Brady or Manning over Teh Alex is insane.

gellar
8330  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Company of Heroes Impressions on: September 25, 2006, 06:05:56 PM
I may have to get in on some online games with you guys.

gellar
8331  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 25, 2006, 05:54:59 PM

Quote from: Roguetad on September 25, 2006, 05:33:11 PM

On the bad side, the dynasty and team management menus are terrible.  It is a major pain to edit lines, swap out players, and view global information without blumbering back and forth between several clunky menu screens.  Some of my players have been gaining Experience Points after each dynasty game, but the flimsy manual doesn't fully explain how I'm supposed to use them.  Because of the clunky menus, I can't for the life of me figure out what the experience points are for and when I get to use them.  I found the Progress Report menu that lists each players current stats, with a column for season improvements, and a total column.  The report lists the experience points for each player, but as far as I can tell, there's no way to use the experience points.  I wanted to switch the captaincies of my team, but it took me 15 minutes of menu navigating to finally figure out that I needed to go to the Jersey Number assignment menu to do that.

I really like the game play, it's the off the ice interface that stinks.

Totally agree.  I hate the line change interface.  I can't view stats AT ALL during the line change area, so I have to either a) look at a player one at a time in alphabetical order, or b) back out a few windows, make notes, then go back into line changes.

That being said, the game still has me hooked.  I play for about an hour each day.

gellar
8332  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Over a GIG of videos hosted on: September 23, 2006, 10:28:09 PM
HOLY CRAP THAT F1 VIDEO IS AWESOME.  Definitely will have to have a PS3 to play that.

* gellar rarely types in caps, but that was worth it.
8333  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 23, 2006, 09:54:56 PM
It's just a timing thing... you have to recognize when the ref is going to drop it (on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd) and time it right.  I can get it if it's a 1st or 3rd thing, but tend to whiff if he drops it on the 2nd.

gellar
8334  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Neat Speed Test site. on: September 23, 2006, 09:42:40 PM
Comcast pwnz.

8335  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 23, 2006, 08:45:39 PM
I've gotten the faceoffs pretty well down now.  I won't win all of them, but I'll get my 50-60%.

gellar
8336  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I bought a bottle of sake...what's the best way to drink it? on: September 23, 2006, 01:02:23 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on September 22, 2006, 11:06:43 PM

Quote from: gellar on September 22, 2006, 10:35:50 PM

Cold.  Refridgerate it.

Warm sake is only served to hide bad sake.

actually chilling a beverage is how you hide poor quality, not heating.  This is why poor wines are better served chilled. 

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060615010040AAgleKw  there is one reference, you can find plenty more.  I watch too much food network and go to too many wine tastings. 

Most people I know prefer Sake chilled because it's such a harsh burn at room temp or higher.  It's especially rough if you aren't used to hard liquor. 

"Unlike many drinks, it is mild on the stomach and its aroma can be savored whether served hot or cold -- or even over ice"

Traditionally I believe it's served slightly warm like a mulled wine, lately the brands sold here advise chilling but I think that's due to most Americans having issues with the bite of the sake and chilling it tones that down and hides some of the flavors.



Wine != Sake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake

Quote
As heating serves to mask the undesirable flavors of lower-quality sake, it is said that the practice became popular during World War II to mask the rough flavor of low-quality sake resulting from scarcity of quality ingredients.

The most common way to serve sake in the United States is to heat it to body temperature (37°C/98.6°F), but professional sake tasters prefer room temperature (20°C/68°F), and chilled sake (10°C/50°F) is growing in popularity.

If there's one thing I know, it's alcohol.

gellar
8337  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I bought a bottle of sake...what's the best way to drink it? on: September 22, 2006, 10:35:50 PM
Cold.  Refridgerate it.

Warm sake is only served to hide bad sake.
8338  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Is it gay for a straight, white male to own a pink DS? on: September 22, 2006, 08:50:45 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on September 22, 2006, 07:36:44 PM

Quote from: gellar on September 22, 2006, 07:00:07 PM

I'd rock the pink.

* gellar is secure in his masculinity and also has a larger wang than most.
wangs aside, if you'll look at the thread title you'll see that for some reason this thread is only about whether or not pink DSs are gay for caucasian men.

I'm half caucasian sir.

* gellar will let you guess which half.
8339  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Is it gay for a straight, white male to own a pink DS? on: September 22, 2006, 07:00:07 PM
I'd rock the pink.

* gellar is secure in his masculinity and also has a larger wang than most.
8340  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Heading off on a cruise today... on: September 22, 2006, 04:54:30 PM
Sounds like good times... take plenty of pictures.
8341  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360]Official Madden League STARTED 9/3 on: September 21, 2006, 10:23:17 PM
Yeah I've shelved it a bit due to other things to play (namely: NHL).  I'll get my game in with Scott tonight though.
8342  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Anyone watch the CBS show "Jericho" last night? on: September 21, 2006, 06:16:26 PM

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on September 21, 2006, 05:23:07 PM

Quote from: Mattc0m on September 21, 2006, 03:07:40 PM

Damnit, I heard it was crummy so I skipped it. I'm looking foward to Shark... don't know why, really, but it seems interesting, although potentially very stupid.

They're replaying the pilot on Saturday at 8:00 PM EST.

Cool... totally forgot this was on, so I'm pretty happy I get a 2nd chance to catch it.

8343  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gran Turismo HD: Classic to cost $426.50 to $975?! on: September 21, 2006, 04:45:34 PM
Yeah this can't possibly be true, can it?

* gellar cannot fathom who thought 'hey, this is a great idea!'
8344  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NHL Games - Verdict on: September 19, 2006, 04:49:05 PM
I can speak for NHL 2007, which I do think is one of the greatest hockey games ever made.

Presentation: Good looking cutscenes, nice replays, TOTAL AND UTTER LACK OF STAT OVERLAYS.  Seriously, there are none.

Graphics:  Quite good looking... but supposedly not as fluid as NHL2k7.

Audio:  Best I've heard in a hockey game... ever.  The crowd gets into it at appropriate moments, complete with chants and everything.  The commentary is above average as far as commentary goes, but it still gets repetitive.

Gameplay:  It's different for sure, but I honestly can't see how NHL2k7 (if is just a refined version of 2k6) can even come CLOSE to what EA has done with the gameplay.  The skillstick is such a gigantic leap forward it's insane.  The moves you can pull off are fantastically animated and incredibly satisfying since you're the one actually doing it.  The goals are incredibly varied due to this.  The lack of speed burts means you really have to get position in order to get a breakaway.  It just works.

Franchise:  While the interface is quite garbage, NHL 2007 is the only one that actually even attempts to have a Salary Cap (from what I've read).

gellar
8345  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: [update] New PC purchase? - Velocity Micro delivers early - gellar happy on: September 19, 2006, 02:51:09 AM

Quote from: Kobra on September 19, 2006, 02:18:54 AM

My PC case rox.


HAWT.
8346  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Suggest an upgrade for me on: September 18, 2006, 09:47:49 PM
You can upgrade the processor to whatever the fastest 939 chip is and you could gain up to maybe 20+ FPS (http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=484&model2=464&chart=165).  Not sure what your board will support, but those procs are quite cheap right now due to the price slash AMD did.  As far as video cards go, if you have PCI-E, you could certainly ugprade to a 7900 GT and see a gain.  I doubt your board supports SLI, so that's probably the best you can do on that end for now.
8347  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: [update] New PC purchase? - Velocity Micro delivers early - gellar happy on: September 18, 2006, 08:46:50 PM

Quote from: Kobra on September 18, 2006, 08:38:22 PM

Quote from: Mattc0m on September 18, 2006, 06:36:15 PM

That thing is a BEAST.  eek

Man, it's threads like these that make me feel really POOR.

They should make you feel RICH for not spending money on something like that!  I go into siezure mode anytime I see someone spend gobs of cash on marked up PC's, especially ones that cost more than my car.. LMAO.

You'd die if you saw my Amex bill this month then slywink.

* gellar can't be burried with cash, so he might as well spend it.
8348  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Did _anyone_ get Dawn of War as a bonus... on: September 18, 2006, 06:57:47 PM

Quote from: Kobra on September 18, 2006, 06:51:38 PM

Thats why I have the provision to charge back any company that pulls BS on me, and I will exercise this power as often as needed.

Yep.  Totally a good plan... a lot of people see using credit cards as a bad thing.  I love the things.  I get protection on my purchase, a 30 day (or so) interest free loan, and a lot of other extra benefits (extended warranties, rental car coverage, etc...) all for just carrying a few pieces of plastic in my wallet.  Of course, charging more than one can afford is obviously a bad thing, as is carrying a balance and paying interest, but if you are disciplined enough to avoid that trap... credit cards are wonderful.

* gellar loves Amex, Visa, and Discovercard (in that order).
8349  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Did _anyone_ get Dawn of War as a bonus... on: September 18, 2006, 05:48:59 PM

Quote from: Kobra on September 18, 2006, 03:29:02 PM

Quote from: Dante Rising on September 18, 2006, 06:15:59 AM

It really wasn't false advertising. It was confusion over the domestic CoH versus the UK import version.

So?  By law, they still have to honor it because it was sold on this premise, and many people purchased it under those conditions. It amounts to retail fraud "Bait and Switch" tactics, and is illegal.  They simply have to fess up to it, and make it right.   Confusion doesn't absolve them from the obligations of selling it under set conditions, then never issuing a correction and simply trying to "Hide" their mistake.  That my friends, is fraud.



Not necessarily.  There is provision legally that allows companies to make a mistake and rescind an offer if a) it was truly a mistake, and b) would cause the company significant financial hardship to honor the mistake.  A 50% off discount misprint, for example, would fall under this proviso.

8350  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: New PC purchase? - Ordered from Velocity Micro after Alienware asshattery on: September 18, 2006, 05:43:29 PM
PC has arrived, and it's pretty fuckin good.  I'll paste my post from HardOCP.  Overall, I'm stoked.

Quote from: gellar on HardOCP
I've poked in a few threads here and there about my VM experience as it happened, but since I received my system on Friday and was am so happy with the result, I figured I'd do VM the courtesy of praising them for my experience in it's own thread.

I should start from the beginning.  All the way back on July 31st, I ordered a full on Core Duo rig from Alienware.  I considered VM at the time, but Alienware had a few crazy "specials" going on that made them a few hundred dollars cheaper.  Despite the fact that I hated the Alienware case, I decided to be frugal and ordered from them.  The estimated ship date would be August 28th.

Weeks later, after a few emails back and forth from me to Alienware asking why my machine had not yet gone into production and whether or not it would make it's estimated ship date, Alienware finally fessed up to the fact that the case necessary to build my machine would NOT be arriving until Sept 15th at the earliest, and my system would likely be completed by Sept 30th.  This was unacceptable.  I cancelled the order.

I then looked at #2 and #3 on my list (Velocity Micro and ABS).  I'd actually chosen ABS over VM this time around due to a) they were more configurable, and b) they'd ship faster.  However, I could not order the config I wanted from ABS' website and had to do it over the phone.  I tried.  They said someone would call me back.  No one ever did.  3 hours later on August 25th, I ordered the following machine from Velocity Micro:

Gamer's Edge PCX
Case        LX Black - Velocity Micro Signature Case
Power Supply    600 Watt Enermax® NoiseTaker Quiet Power Supply, Dual Smart Fans, user adjustable speed control knob (+$120.00)
Motherboard    Asus® P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe - NVIDIA® nForce™ 4 SLI MCP, PCI Express Motherboard with DDR2     
Processor    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor E6600, dual 2.4GHz cores (+$120.00)    
CPU Cooling    Arctic Cooling® Freezer 7 Heatsink, Ultra Quiet Fan, Copper Heat Pipes, plus Arctic Silver™ 5 Thermal Compound     
DDR2 Memory    2048MB Corsair™ XMS2 DDR2-800 Low Latency CL4 Extreme Memory with Heat Spreader (2x1024) (+$185.00)
PCX Video     1024MB eVGA™ NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7950 GX2, PCI-Express, 2 x DVI (+$385.00)
Audio      SoundBlaster X-Fi XtremeMusic
Hard Drive 1     250GB Western Digital WD2500JD 7200rpm SATA/150, 8MB Cache
Optical Drive 1 16x Lite On® DVD+/-RW/CD-RW Dual Layer, Black Bezel

Total price was a bit under $2700, which was the same as the PC I had ordered from Alienware (which was identical, other than the E6700 CPU).  I actually called VM the next day to add on the X-Fi to the order, and the sales guy I spoke with on the phone was professional, courteous, and more than happy to answer any other questions I had (I asked about the memory).  My machine was due to ship on September 13th.  Overall, everything was good so far.

On September 6th, I received an email from VM stating that my machine was Staged for Assembly.  On September 7th, I received an email stating it was in Assembly.  And on September 8th, I received an email stating my machine was complete and shipping.  Fantastic turnaround time.  I received my shipping notice that evening and, since I am all the way in California, my PC would arrive on September 15th.

Fast forward to Sept 15th, and UPS delivers my fancy new rig in a GIGANTIC box to my office.  I tried to fight the urge from opening it until I got home, but I couldn't.  I cracked it open and was quite pleased to see that UPS did not do to my system what they did to Scott's, and everything looked great and in place.  DWhite apparently was the technician in charge of my system, and he did a fine job.  After getting it home, I opened her up to take some pics and plugged everything in.  No problems upon first boot and everything seemed to be working fine and dandy... except the sound card.  The system did not report that an X-Fi even existed, and it seemed as though no drivers were installed.  However, I had a feeling that the card may have become unseated during shipping, so I opened the case back up and reseated the card... and all was well.  I don't think this could have been avoided, as these sort of things happen from time to time when shipping 3000+ miles.  It also could be why it seemed like there were no drivers installed for Scott's damaged system, since the drivers don't appear to be there unless the card is.  Another small niggle is that they put the Windows XP activation code BEHIND the machine.  This makes it annoyingly difficult to enter when you are trying to do so for the first time slywink.

However, those are the only two complaints.  Everything else was flawless and I am truly impressed with the build quality of the sytem.  It's certainly better than if I would have done it myself, as I really just lack the attention to detail to do it right.  The case itself is really quite nice, and the wiring is top notch.  The system fired up with all updated drivers and pulled an 8189 3dmark06 score out of the box with zero tweaking at all.  It has run every game I've thrown at it (Company of Heroes, World of Warcraft, Battlefield 2, and Oblivion) at 100% maxed graphics, AA or HDR on, 1600x1200, smooth as silk.  I love it.  It's also WAY more quiet than my previous machine.

I couldn't be happier.

And... as promised... pics:















8351  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 18, 2006, 05:32:41 PM

Quote from: Devil on September 18, 2006, 05:04:22 PM

I have a stupid question for my upcoming review: Is there a way to select your favorite team for the startup screen like in every other EA Sports game?

I know it's probably in the manual somewhere, but I don't have time to go through everything in those 6 pages!  icon_wink

I've been looking for this too... and can't find it.  It's annoying.
8352  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 18, 2006, 01:42:25 AM
Just to add... I'm not saying you're wrong if you like the turbo button.  It's been around forever.  I'm just saying the omission of it doesn't make things unrealistic.  It does the exact opposite.
8353  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 18, 2006, 01:40:25 AM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on September 18, 2006, 01:19:26 AM

But turbo adds realism to the game.  Maybe if "turbo" was renamed to something like "sprint" it would make more sense...

But without a true turbo button, it's like there's no sprinting.  There's no motivating a skater to push harder than usual for whatever reason - also, a turbo button helps bring more strategy and realism to the game in terms of fatigue.  Skate around with turbo all the time and your team is DEAD tired by the end of their shift; how is this handled in NHL '07?  The more you skate in a straight line, hence going "faster", means you get more tired?

I'm not sure how much hockey you've played... but since shifts are generally just a few minutes long, in reality, you are "sprinting" the entire time.  You get winded just by playing.  If the game wants to do a realistic impression of fatigue, your player is dog tired after about 1 minute and skating up and down the ice approximately 3 times.  Unless you're Chris Pronger.

The only way "sprint" is even remotely close to realistic in hockey is if it lasted for about 3 strides.  Some players do have a burst to get past a defender, but it's literally just to get by a guy.  That's it.

You don't take shifts off in hockey.  You don't skate slower.  You do that, and you get benched.

gellar
8354  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 18, 2006, 12:39:27 AM
I actually think the lack of turbo is by far the best design decision (other than the skill stick) the series made.  I always found turbo annoying.

* gellar is still loving NHL.
8355  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The RealID act, what's your feeling? on: September 15, 2006, 08:42:00 PM
Don't care.  I'm relatively certain that if the gubment wanted to track me, they'd have zero problems doing so with or without this ID.

* gellar is all for the FUTUAR.
8356  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL 2k7 Impressions on: September 15, 2006, 07:38:53 PM
Er... wrong game.

* gellar is retarded.
8357  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL 2k7 Impressions on: September 15, 2006, 07:31:28 PM

Quote from: Devil on September 15, 2006, 07:23:00 PM

Thanks!

Can you score on shots other than one-timers?

One timers are the one thing I can't score on.

I'm awful with them.
8358  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 15, 2006, 05:39:27 PM

Quote from: Roguetad on September 15, 2006, 04:29:49 PM

Quote from: jament on September 15, 2006, 04:24:01 PM

But  - let's say I'm on D, I want to poke check a guy at the blue line and then hip check him if the poke doesn't dislodge the puck.  You're saying I don't use buttons to do that?  How does it work?  Huh?  Eh? What?

The right shoulder button poke checks (in the direction of the right stick), or default directly in front if you don't use the right stick. 

You hit someone by simply pushing the right stick in the direction of the victim. 

The left shoulder button can be used to hook or tie up someone.  I hooked someone on a break away and definitely got called for it.  You can use the left SB to keep guys pinned against the boards too. 

Pressing both shoulder buttons at the same time makes your guy block. 

That's pretty much it!  You can clear pucks by doing a slap shot or pulling the right trigger for a pass.

There's a bit more than that.  Holding left trigger causes you to skate backwards.  Left trigger skating backwards + left stick moving towards opposing player + well timed flick of the right stick towards opposing player = flattened Paul Kariya.  You do have a good chance of completely whiffing that though, so I really only try to pull it off if I have support from my forwards (just like real hockey!).

The Y button allows you to slash and try and start a fight.  In my last game, I was dicking around and slashed some Avalanche player with Tim Gleason.  The game called a 5 min major on me AND a game misconduct.  I don't think I've ever seen that in a video game before.

Defense is a combination of having good body positioning and poke checking.  You can use the poke check to try and intercept a pass too (I've done it twice) and set forth on a break of your own.  There are only a few players on each team that can actually lay the lumber well enough to knock an opposing player down, but every player can try to bump the opposition off the puck.  Sometimes that works better than others... if I am Mike Cammaleri, I'm better off trying to poke check Chris Pronger than run into him and just bounce off.

8359  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 15, 2006, 04:06:38 PM

Quote from: Devil on September 15, 2006, 01:57:08 PM

Here:

LB+RB=Block Shot

Now go get it!

Yep... I've done it a few times.

The defensive game is pretty good actually.  I love being able to time a hip check at the blueline and laying out a guy like Paul Kariya with Rob Blake.  The fact that hard hits are so few and far between this year makes the ones you do land ever so satisfying.

* gellar can't wait to go home and play more.
8360  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360] NHL '07 Impressions on: September 15, 2006, 04:49:56 AM
Holy hell am I enjoying this game.  I've played 11 games today alone and absolutely am amazed by it.  It plays a nice game of hockey out of the box (slightly fast), and with a few slider tweaks plays a great game of hockey.  The variety of goals is miles beyond what we've seen in any title so far, and the game is just fun fun fun.

There are definitely a few shortfallings, such as presentation (utter lack of stat overlays), a bit of a discrepency in the hits stats during a game, and a relatively steep learning curve with the dual analog sticks, but these are minor nicks on a damn fine game so far.

* gellar goes to play more.
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