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161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: January 11, 2014, 06:41:32 PM

Quote from: Jumangi on January 11, 2014, 05:32:37 PM

Sony isn't hindering the future of games distribution. They have pushed it on the PS3 with their Day 1 Digital on PSN and with having all digital buying ability on the PS Vita. If you want to not ever buy a disc/cart with a PlayStation product you can.

Absolutely correct.
162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: January 10, 2014, 06:25:51 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on January 10, 2014, 05:14:13 PM

I think the biggest mistake with their initial required-online approach was going for it while we're still in a weird hybrid zone of disc and digital distribution.  If they wanted it to be online-only, they should have just gone full-bore and release a console with no disc drive.  People raised eyebrows at Apple when they started releasing laptops with no disc drive, but it didn't take much to realize that just about everything was available via digital distribution.

Having no disc drive would mean they'd be mocked for having no ability to play blu-ray movies compared to the PS4, but if they set up a good digital distribution model I think there'd be a good chance of being looked at as being more forward-thinking.  Unless it's just too early for digital-only, which maybe it is.  But I do think online-only and disc-free go hand in hand.  Nobody's going to bat an eye if Steam boxes are online-only with no disc drive, and so it could have been with the Xbone.  

I think the games are too large to really make that feasible for the majority of the market. If you went full bore no disk drive, you'd drastically lower your total addressable market to those who could download 30GB in a reasonable timeframe.

I'm all for digital distribution. The only physical next gen games I have are the games I got at launch with the PS4. The last three purchases have been downloaded and I'm quite happy to keep going that way.
163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC/PS4/XB1] The Division (Tom Clancy) on: January 08, 2014, 01:07:16 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on January 07, 2014, 10:22:10 PM


SONOFABITCH.
164  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2890 Days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: January 07, 2014, 06:55:40 PM
That seems to be a larger gap that I was expecting, no?
165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 12 things the Xbox One does well, 11 that it doesn't on: January 04, 2014, 03:59:49 PM

Quote from: Purge on January 04, 2014, 02:55:34 PM

Quote from: TiLT on January 04, 2014, 02:27:05 PM

At the very least, Microsoft can afford to "lose" one console generation. The same can't be said about Sony at this point.


I concur.

Ditto.

Quote from: Purge on January 04, 2014, 02:55:01 PM

JayDee, I use the connect every day. Xbox on, certain voice commends, controller recognition. It's not what's wrong with the platform IMO.

When devs start competing with each other on feature sets - that's when we're gonna see the Kinect 2 really get used to its advantages.

I use it every time I use the Xbone, but I don't find it crucial to the system yet. In fact I find it superfluous. You're correct though - IF devs start actually using it well, then I may change my tune.
166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 12 things the Xbox One does well, 11 that it doesn't on: January 04, 2014, 12:51:06 AM

Quote from: Purge on January 03, 2014, 08:30:56 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 03, 2014, 07:01:17 PM


Also is it just me or is the UI maddeningly slow?

Sometimes, yeah. I spoke around the point (IIRC) with the loading of different apps.

The cable box stuff I couldn't speak to, I'm in Canada, so the OneGuide is currently derelict. Hit X to bring it up automatically from the dashboard.

I like that hitting B takes you back into what you were just in (as if the dashboard is like the "360 button blades".

I played a bit last night (I'm coming down with a cold and have zero energy to focus on gaming). Halo:SA has some bugs in the first few levels including one crash and a bug where getting out of a turret starts firing your guns and your special ability: you have to tap fire to stop it. KD assures me his copy stopped pulling that crap later on, but I'll say this - they really need to fix system stability. The 'bone doesn't crash often, but it sometimes surprises you.

Hmmm I've not gotten any crashes at all other than occasionally on quick resume of a game (which I think they said is in Beta or something).
167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1]Forza 5 on: January 03, 2014, 07:08:35 PM
I'm really finding myself enjoying Forza 5 a lot more than I expected to. The game could definitely use more tracks and the AI is fucking awful at driving anything above A Class, but otherwise I'm way more engrossed than I have been in any Forza game since... maybe the first one actually. It's good.

Feel free to add me on XBL for hot lap chasing. I don't see myself racing online at all, but maybe my Dravatar can ram a few of you off the road slywink

XBL: TehGellar
168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 12 things the Xbox One does well, 11 that it doesn't on: January 03, 2014, 07:01:17 PM

Quote from: rittchard on January 03, 2014, 06:26:29 PM

Quote from: Purge on January 02, 2014, 10:44:14 PM

Smartglass does all of that.

So, effectively, if you have a smartphone or tablet, you already have full control of audio. Sending numeric signals to, say, change channels is possible, but the Kinect doesn't (at this time) have that type of control.

When you open Smartglass (and it's set to connect to your console), there is a remote icon in the bottom right, as well as an icon for sound.

Not to belabor the point, but I tried Smartglass out last night and while it's got some decent features, obviously it's not capable of sending IR commands to a set top box (or DVR), which means you are still left swapping between your DVR remote and the Smartglass device if you want to access any recorded show (or VOD, etc) functionality.  That's an improvement over using the controller because of the navigation, keyboard and volume control, but not great since it still requires two devices. 

I did some more searching around and really the only viable single-remote solution at present is the Logitech Harmony series.  It took me a major effort to get mine working the way I wanted, and I still had to compromise, placing the Xbone's selection keys to some fairly random buttons that were left over.  Long story short, it means the solution is acceptable for me personally, but not for anyone else in the house.  Do you really want to explain to your significant other why they have to press the red circle button to get the List of recorded shows?  Or why they have to move the Xbox cursor around with the "-" key and then hit the soft Enter key to get the TV in full screen?  I realize it's not an easy proposition given the different types of DVRs and STBs out there, but this is the door Microsoft opened when they decided to promote the "one stop entertainment" hub concept.  Pretty much everyone I know uses some form of DVR, even those who are getting TV over the air; it's something that needs to be addressed if they really want to own this space.  This should all be really obvious stuff for a company that is going to advertise integration with TV/cable/satellite. 

Agreed. It's a mess. I'm specifically not running my DirecTV line through the Xbone because it adds a minimal amount of value while making the entire process actually more cumbersome. I have hopes they'll figure this out in the long run, but they are also a LOOOONG ways off from making it usable right now. Also, try telling your significant other 'so instead of using the TV remote like you've always done, I need you to talk to the Xbox for some things, use the iPad for others, and then also use the TV remote for the stuff that that stuff can't do. Oh yeah and sometimes (half of the time) the Xbox won't understand you.' NOPE.

First off, get the goddamn box to turn on consistently when I say 'Xbox, on.' That's step one. Then unfuck everything else.

In regards to the article, I agree with it largely. It's a nice box of potential but just about all of that potential is falling short right now. The quick resume feature is the one thing it really does a ton better than the PS4, but everything else is sort of a miss from a gaming perspective.

Also is it just me or is the UI maddeningly slow?
169  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 10 hours until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 09:44:57 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 09:02:17 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 08:59:03 PM

It just feels worse because now you're finally on the receiving end.

 thumbsup


Jesus fucking Christ. Grow up, children.
170  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 21, 2013, 06:11:42 AM

Quote from: ATB on November 21, 2013, 02:03:20 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 21, 2013, 01:27:55 AM

Look, here's the deal.

Ever since E3 we've heard nothing but shit against the Xbox.


Who cares? 

Winnar.
171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 21, 2013, 03:50:56 AM

Quote from: msduncan on November 21, 2013, 12:01:05 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 20, 2013, 11:11:35 PM

I also find it odd that (not necessarily on this forum, but on the internets in general) fans of xbox have gone from "yeah I have a PS3-i mean Netflix machine-but it's all about the games man. GAMES GAMES GAMES! If I want to watch a movie I'll turn on my PS3" to "It's all about the media capabilities man. All the PS4 can do is play games. It's basically a PS 3.5."
The reversal of opinion is intriguing.

Ironic considering the PS3 turned out to be the better console last generation primarily because of the way it pushed the boundaries of media with Bluray.

Funny - I used that as a reason to buy the PS3 but haven't played a BRD in probably over three years.

The PS3 turned out to be the better console (subjectively) because it had better games (subjectively). Also it didn't light on fire as much.
172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 10:43:37 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 20, 2013, 09:05:36 PM

Both Albert Penello and Marc Whitten have confirmed (via Twitter) that 5.1 is available as an option, just needs to be enabled. Currently labeled beta due to some issues on certain set top boxes (assuming this may change with Day One patch or shortly thereafter). Marc Whitten stated the support FAQ is incorrect and will be corrected to reflect this option.

Ah the time old tradition of saying "Beta/Experimental" when a feature doesn't fully work or isn't fully tested.

Still, glad to hear it'll be fixed if/when I get one of these things.
173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 08:41:11 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on November 20, 2013, 08:30:35 PM

Quote from: Purge on November 20, 2013, 07:56:40 PM

Honestly, even though "Digital TV" is popular, the vast majority of TV programs aren't recorded in 5.1 - so it's not as big a deal for most people - also, home theaters are a drop in the bucket compared to sound bars and TV speaker use (sad but true).

Is that true? Unless it was just being upscaled by my receiver and I didn't realize it, I think most of the big networks broadcast at least their primetime shows in 5.1 as do the movie channels (HBO at least). As gellar points out, setting it up the way you advise would mean any movie/show watched on HBO wouldn't have surround sound.

It's absolutely not true. The vast majority of the primetime network shows and movies are 5.1. All of the premium channels are 5.1. All major sports are 5.1.

It's not a sacrifice I'd be willing to make.
174  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 08:09:22 PM

Quote from: Purge on November 20, 2013, 07:56:40 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 20, 2013, 07:24:30 PM

Man, Purge, my eyes are glazing over.

Here's my current setup:

Cable box out --> Receiver Cable in
WD Live out --> Receiver Aux in
Receiver out HDMI to the TV

These are currently the only two inputs I switch between. What's my optimum config for the Xbox One, in layman's terms.  icon_biggrin

All HDMI?

Honestly, even though "Digital TV" is popular, the vast majority of TV programs aren't recorded in 5.1 - so it's not as big a deal for most people - also, home theaters are a drop in the bucket compared to sound bars and TV speaker use (sad but true).

So, the optimal setup would be:

Cable Box --HDMI--> XBONE --HDMI--> RECEIVER(1) --HDMI--> TV
WDLive ---- HDMI--------------------> RECEIVER(2)

There are other ways to skin this - you could have a second output for sound to go to the receiver, but it's going to complicate things and if this "BETA" thing works, good for them, good for you.

As to the "day one update" - the one released a week ago != (necessarily) mean it's the one coming out tomorrow night.

To avoid hardware problems like disk ejects, I think I'm going software-only. slywink

Just to point out in case it's not obvious, by doing this you will not have any 5.1 sound for your Cable programming unless that Beta thing works.
175  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 07:52:19 PM

Quote from: Purge on November 20, 2013, 07:47:57 PM

If the Xbone IR blasted the input on the receiver then it would be fine (other than the input switch sound on your receiver) but it doesn't sound like it works like that. If they had a harmony-like logic to inputs it could easily bounce between inputs.

The problem with that solution is that you'd still want the video input of the xbox but an audio input of something else... unless there are newer receivers that could have HDMI input + Optical Input on the same source and switch between the two.

In any case, yeah it's a miss. They need to fix this.
176  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 07:27:01 PM

Quote from: Purge on November 20, 2013, 07:18:26 PM

The last example you put is the right one. I never suggested everything get routed through the XB1 - unless they had more inputs and allowed you to swap between other services/systems (which it does not).

I'll admit I'm not surprised at the (current) limitation.

Yeah the problem with that is that if you do it, it currently kills your 5.1 sound. It's an amazing oversight/limitation... its so bad that like YK, I have to assume it absolutely must be fixed ASAP. Until then though, it's DOA.

You can't run audio through the receiver first... You'd have Audio from Source A [DirecTV] and Video from Source B [XBox One]. Not sure how the receiver would make heads or tails of that.

It's a mistake, and a really big one for at least some portion of their customers.
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 07:08:55 PM

Quote from: Purge on November 20, 2013, 07:02:07 PM

I will answer this, and perhaps slowly - HDMI as default is a single segment negotiation. The XB1 should be the "last stop" on its way to the TV via HDMI - anyone passing HDMI to the TV hoping it will output past it back into their receiver are misled regardless.

The audio should have been run through a receiver on HDMI FIRST or split out from the optical out.

Doing it any other way is retard

Uh, absolutely not. I am not running ALL of my inputs through the XBone as that is an unnecessary use of power. It adds zero value to my PS3, AppleTV, or XBox360 so there is no reason I'd pass those through at all. It may even add negative value by virtue of sound or input delay.

Not to mention this loop is nonsensical and might not even work [All Sources] -> [Receiver] -> [XBox One] -> [Receiver] -> [TV]

The receiver has to be the last stop before the TV since it's the one processing the sound.

This is the way it needs to be: [DirecTV] -> [XBox One] -> [Receiver] -> [TV]
178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 Days until Xbone. Which system are you getting? on: November 20, 2013, 05:53:33 PM

Quote from: The Grue on November 20, 2013, 05:07:28 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 20, 2013, 04:50:40 PM


Bottom line is, speaking from someone that has a PS4 and have been playing it all week, Xbone is pushing the envelope.   PS4 is essentially PS3 2.0.




What envelope is this thing pushing, exactly?  TV integration?  Oh, well not if you want more than stereo sound.  Kinect?  Well, only if you launch things by having great annunciation and with the proper marketing branding (XBox, launch Redbox Instant by Verizon).  Content management?  Sure, if you want them to decide for you which content stays and which goes.  They had some cool ideas and I was willing to give this a shot and maybe buy one at launch, but from what I have read in reviews (I wish they wouldn't score these stupid things), I am definitely waiting.

Meanwhile, I am playing games on my PS3 2.0 and loving it.  I wish MS had done the same and put the time and money into making the XBO perform better in that regard.  They wasted it trying to do this other stuff and then did it half-assed.

Agreed - I really want the TV stuff to work and work well but right now it's DOA. No PVR controls + no Surround Sound + no actual direct integration = Are you fucking kidding me?

It's a box of promises... and like I've probably said dozens of times in this thread, as a product guy, I know buying based on promise is a poor decision. I'll wait for delivery.
179  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 11 on: November 20, 2013, 05:42:24 PM
Brooks fined $16K for the hit. Ray Lewis offers to pay half.

If Ray Lewis is on your side, you are on the wrong side.
180  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Xbox One Discussion on: November 20, 2013, 04:29:09 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on November 20, 2013, 02:53:55 PM

So this came up in the "other" thread but I think this is relevant for future XB1 owners.  The XB1 does not support Surround Sound for the cable/satellite.  http://support.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-one/live-tv/digital-sound-not-working

So if you have a home theater setup you'll want to weigh using that pass-through or not as, as of right now, there are tradeoffs.

You've got to be fucking kidding me.
181  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 11 on: November 19, 2013, 10:42:44 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 19, 2013, 10:35:20 PM

Quote from: gellar on November 19, 2013, 10:14:56 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 19, 2013, 08:46:48 PM

From Peter King a la MMQB:

Quote
Iím working on a story now that will be out in a couple of weeks that I believe will explain things a little bit better. But in this case, what I saw was a defensive player who contacted a quarterback in the upper sternum/shoulder area, but in the process of finishing the play, Ahmad Brooksí forearm made contact with Drew Breesí neck. That play is going to be called as a personal foul by the officials. If they donít call it, no matter who the quarterback is, the officials will get marked down by league officiating supervisors.

He sees the same contact zone and just like I said it's as he falls backward that the neck contact comes into play.  I still think it's a bad call.

Any guy who gives a hard tackle gets fined this season.

Did you not read the line after that?

That play is going to be called as a personal foul by the officials. If they donít call it, no matter who the quarterback is, the officials will get marked down by league officiating supervisors.

Yep.  It's a judgement call by the officials that he's saying they have to make because otherwise they'll get marked down.

I give up.
182  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 11 on: November 19, 2013, 10:14:56 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 19, 2013, 08:46:48 PM

From Peter King a la MMQB:

Quote
Iím working on a story now that will be out in a couple of weeks that I believe will explain things a little bit better. But in this case, what I saw was a defensive player who contacted a quarterback in the upper sternum/shoulder area, but in the process of finishing the play, Ahmad Brooksí forearm made contact with Drew Breesí neck. That play is going to be called as a personal foul by the officials. If they donít call it, no matter who the quarterback is, the officials will get marked down by league officiating supervisors.

He sees the same contact zone and just like I said it's as he falls backward that the neck contact comes into play.  I still think it's a bad call.

Any guy who gives a hard tackle gets fined this season.

Did you not read the line after that?

That play is going to be called as a personal foul by the officials. If they donít call it, no matter who the quarterback is, the officials will get marked down by league officiating supervisors.
183  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 11 on: November 19, 2013, 08:20:47 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10001244/nfl-reviewing-hit-ahmad-brooks-san-francisco-49ers-drew-brees-new-orleans-saints

Quote
The NFL is reviewing San Francisco 49ers linebacker Ahmad Brooks for possible discipline for his illegal hit on New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees, a blow that seemed a textbook example of the league rule prohibiting defensive players from hitting the quarterback in the head and neck, a league source said Tuesday.

So maybe not so much a clean hit, 49er fans.
184  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 11 on: November 19, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
In pocket as a QB vs out of pocket as a runner. Different rules.
185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/XB1/PS3/PS4/Wii U/PC]Assassin's Creed IV:Black Flag on: November 19, 2013, 08:08:33 PM
I definitely noticed the difference pre-patch vs post-patch yesterday.
186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 19, 2013, 05:43:17 PM
Oh - Sony issued a statement on the failure rates: http://allthingsd.com/20131119/sony-updates-faulty-playstation-4-estimate-saying-number-is-still-very-small/?mod=atdtweet

Basically saying less than 1% with no singular cause, so 'nothing to see here.'
187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 19, 2013, 05:42:50 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 19, 2013, 05:38:49 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on November 19, 2013, 05:18:24 PM

Quote from: The Grue on November 19, 2013, 05:01:38 PM

Quote from: Harpua3 on November 18, 2013, 08:12:26 PM

I almost scored a copy of that. GameStop had one left... But it was the gutted copy. Against my principles for numerous reasons. Best buys around here have them but like 20 miles away. Ill wait.

You gotta pick and choose your battles, dude.  I know people hate that Gamestop does this, but they have a reason (not like they just do it to be dicks) and in the end, the copy is no different than if it was in shrink wrap.  In fact, you could spin this that they are providing you a service by pre-opening it...FOR FREE!  slywink

Really the only crappy part is the sticker they always put on the box.  I can usually get the sticker off just fine, though.   

I'm with Harpua on this principle, and it's made even worse by the occasional instance of people finding that a store employee did indeed play with one of the opened new copies of a game.

Yeah, there's no excuses for this shit in this day and age.

I'll side with Grue on this one. The amount of fucks I give about an open video game package is less than zero.
188  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 19, 2013, 05:37:44 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on November 19, 2013, 04:42:40 PM

I remember mine being cross shipped, too.  But I think I also paid for expedited shipping of some sort.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they cross shipped if you paid for it.
189  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL 2013 -- Week 11 on: November 19, 2013, 04:24:29 AM
It was a good call per the rule. Nothing Brooks could do about it, but you can't make contact with the QBs neck.

190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: November 18, 2013, 07:48:28 AM

Quote from: Purge on November 18, 2013, 05:11:15 AM

No, but if this was happening (which it may still) on a console of a different make, the deluge of animated gifs having to do with red rings would bury the server IO. My guess is that people with the console experiencing problems have three things against them:

A) They just paid $400 and a day-one-ish console with months of buildup and partisan opinion built up.
B) It ain't cool to slam Sony
C) See B.

My pointing that out isn't an act of Schadenfreude - it really sucks to have a console die on you, and when I went into EB Games and gave up my pre-order* (IIRC there are at least 5 PS4 owners on staff so I don't need one for reviews) they had a few people already call to find out how to get replacements.

Let's hope Sony gets this one cleaned up ASAP - this Christmas, everyone should be having fun on their next-gen consoles.

Agreed. It's obviously difficult to get a failure rate right now, but it's not at all promising that the failure rate after 72 hours or so is not near zero.
191  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: It's November 14, 2013. What's your Franchise/Game of the Generation? on: November 14, 2013, 03:04:05 PM
Yeah I can't think of anything that comes close to Uncharted. Rock Band is in second place.
192  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 2 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 13, 2013, 04:27:14 PM

Quote from: TiLT on November 13, 2013, 04:16:06 PM

Quote from: Purge on November 13, 2013, 04:00:57 PM

Sony definitely holds the cards on the cross-platform games (save COD, which I hear is chuggy).

There was word about CoD being 720p in single player (and 1080p in multi) even on PS4 an hour or two ago, but I didn't catch the final verdict there. At least there's been some pretty convincing evidence that the sites that have been posting comparison vids between CoD on the two platforms these last two days have mostly been using 720p for both platforms. Whether that is because their recording equipment was set up wrong or if the game is built that way was harder to tell, but some people started claiming that they could confirm the reduced resolution.

It's really inexcusable. CoD: Ghosts is one of the (if not the) absolutely worst looking games on the new consoles, Xbox One and PS4 both, yet it still has both performance and resolution problems. People really should boycott that franchise. They aren't even hiding the fact that they're regurgitating the same game every year, with minimal effort, any more.

Yeah but the multiplayer is SO FUN.
193  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 3 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 13, 2013, 02:10:04 AM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 13, 2013, 01:35:14 AM

The snap feature is one major reason I think MS's philosophy for the Xbone is sound, and will be borne out in the long run. The fact is, none of us use our electronics for just one function these days. Everybody's a multi-tasker. They've positioned the Xbox to capitalize on all the major technology trends - cloud sync across devices, multitasking, media streaming, digital distribution, social integration, etc. I think people are going to really buy into that experience - particularly as time goes on and these features become more and more commonplace across all of our devices.

Largely depends on the tasks. I don't watch a movie while reading a book for example. In fact watching movies, playing games, and reading are generally very single threaded tasks for me. I do check twitter during downtime during games, but I don't need that on the screen all the time.

Basically I can see the snap feature being interesting for a lot of the other activity beyond gaming, but when I game I just want the game on the screen. I literally cannot think of a single thing I want on there blocking any part of the game UI.
194  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: November 12, 2013, 11:46:08 PM

Quote from: ATB on November 12, 2013, 11:08:34 PM

One of the key things he does is not reload after every kill.

It's a very important technique and I've had a hard time breaking the habit.

Some times I'll kill guy with an lmg and reload on instinct even though I have 90 rounds or whatever left in the drum.

It's embarrassing.

I had that issue as well. First, you should be able to cancel the reload by sprinting or pressing Y, I think. This was the case in previous CODs.

Second, using guns with larger clips and/or extended mags helped me in realizing that I did not have to reload after every kill.
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1]Forza 5 on: November 12, 2013, 09:29:13 PM

Quote from: TiLT on November 12, 2013, 09:25:19 PM

The point is that there is no way to measure whether or not you're using 100% of a console's potential. It's a worthless measurement because there is no defined upper limit. To use Purge's truck example, he can easily say that he's using 100% of his truck's actual power, which would be correct. But when he cuts it up and stacks it, how much of the truck's maximum potential to carry wood is he using? Is it 50%? 60%? 70%? Something else? There's no way to know, thus making claims about it nothing but a fantasy. It gets even worse when you start to consider that you have to measure the maximum potential against technology and development methods that may not even have been invented yet at the time.

Yeah I don't disgree, but I would think that most devs (certainly all AAA titles) are going to be running at their 100% at that particular point in time.

Using the truck analogy on it's side a bit:
The first time I drive Purge's truck around the track, I'm not sure of its cornering limits, proper gear for turn exits, etc... The next lap, I'll be better. The 50th lap, better still. 100th lap... I might be running into significant diminishing returns, but if Fernando Alonso (the equivalent of a much, much better developer) were to come in and drive, he'd certainly do better than I would lap one.

I do agree that we can't possibly know the upper bound of any system at this point in its life cycle.
196  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1]Forza 5 on: November 12, 2013, 09:21:03 PM
Anyone who thinks these consoles are running at 100% of their optimal capability is insane. It's a brand new platform. The developers may be engaging it to 100% of *their* ability right now, but with time/experience/luck/OS enhancements, things will undoubtedly get better.

Unless of course you think the 360/PS3 didn't improve over time. In which case you are either blind and/or stupid.

The flip side is that of course devs are maxing it out to the best of their ability and to suggest that they aren't is also stupid. They just aren't that good at it yet and one of these boxes has proven to be easier to learn than the other.

197  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 3 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 12, 2013, 09:18:03 PM

Quote from: msduncan on November 12, 2013, 09:15:58 PM

Poor choice in emoticons.  I should have used  saywhat instead.

Still completely unnecessary and does not at all add to the discussion.

As the appointed arbiter of logic and reason, I have made my ruling. It still stands.

198  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 3 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 12, 2013, 09:11:21 PM

Quote from: YellowKing on November 12, 2013, 08:54:19 PM

Quote from: TiLT
Yet a few people have managed to turn the tone of the thread in such a direction that any critical piece of news about the Xbox One is considered an attack, or gleeful shit-smearing, or any number of other negative descriptors.....blah blah blah



Unnecessary.

Quote from: TiLT on November 12, 2013, 08:58:48 PM

I will not respond to trolling. Case closed.

Samesies.

Quote from: msduncan on November 12, 2013, 09:04:16 PM

Quote from: TiLT on November 12, 2013, 08:58:48 PM

I will not respond to trolling. Case closed.

 icon_lol

Doubly so.

199  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 3 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 12, 2013, 06:59:27 PM
COD is the one game where I honestly do not care about SP framerate since it's unlikely I'll play very much SP at all. If they keep 60FPS in MP, then I'm good.
200  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 3 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: November 12, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
I care a whole lot more about 60FPS than I do about what resolution the game is. 60FPS must be the standard (at least for any FPS, racing, and/or competitive MP game). If it takes going to 720p or 900p or whatever the fuck, just do it. I need 60FPS.
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