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521  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [XB1/PS4/PS3/360/PC]Battlefield 4 on: October 29, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
I thought the clouds were missing at first too, but they are there, just hard to see

522  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 29, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
To be fair, I only "discredited" one of the sources.
523  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 29, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
Ugh, it's just that Reddit shill as the XB1 dev.  At least the journalist isn't Kevin Dent. 
524  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [XB1/PS4/PS3/360/PC]Battlefield 4 on: October 29, 2013, 11:20:47 AM
Here's the IGN comparison video with less of the contrast disparity.  Really what is up with that DF video?  Also has multiplayer of both.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lspjyu31Joo
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/battlefield-4-xbox-oneps4-graphics-comparison
525  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 29, 2013, 01:18:48 AM
Since there's a lot of NeoGAF talk in here, just thought I'd share this GIF.  They can be kind of humorous about themselves sometimes
526  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 28, 2013, 10:10:52 PM
It's so weird to me that trying to warn friends about potential issues is now an act of fanboyism and trolling...
527  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 28, 2013, 05:57:01 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 28, 2013, 05:51:59 PM

Quote from: Travis on October 28, 2013, 04:41:07 PM

I am also assuming though that to use the living room features of the One you will need to have a Gold account to Live which I am also assuming will cost a fee as it does.  If that's the case, that's a bit lame.


Living room features is vague. If you mean unified platform to control your tv, amp/receiver, recognize up to six people and be able to hand your controller off to the next person and have the system recognize it, as well as voice controls, multitasking and gesture controls? Don't think so.

I think video sharing requires it, and I think the online save games do too though I could be mistaken.

If you mean Skype, fantasy football, and services like Netflix, then yes. Netflix should not require it as all other platforms don't require a pay gate.

Both systems now require payment for MP, in case you weren't aware.

Not exactly true.  You can play some multiplayer games on PS4 without a PSN subscription.  MMOs and some F2P games will work without it, it's about not getting double billed, but it makes determining what requires it and what doesn't muddy.
528  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 28, 2013, 05:40:11 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 28, 2013, 05:37:59 PM

Quote from: TiLT on October 28, 2013, 05:33:20 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 28, 2013, 05:27:58 PM

Somehow, though, in this bizzaro console fanboi world -- a few extra ticks on the clock translates magically to CRUSHINGLY OMGZ MORE POWERFUL MWHA HA HA!!!!!!!   It's bullshit.   There's not much difference.

Says someone who, like the rest of us, has had no chance to see this in action and refuses to accept rumors on the Internet under any circumstance. Don't mix facts and speculation. While what you're saying is reasonable enough, your conclusion is overly confident and doesn't match current reports. You're typing this stuff as if you know with 100% certainty that there's next to no difference between the two consoles.

By all means it was not my intention to get my facts mixed in with your speculation.    Apologies.
Roll Eyes
529  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: October 28, 2013, 05:23:21 PM
And trailer of said co-op mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNm5CmnYBzU
530  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 28, 2013, 02:08:45 PM
If you're not reading that GAF thread you missed this amazing GIF.

Dammit Canuk, I knew you were gonna do that after you saw me post it at QT3!

531  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 28, 2013, 03:52:03 AM
Jeff Gerstmann had this to say in regards to this latest rumor about the XB1 OS.
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You may have noticed that they havenít exactly been out there showing it off in live environments.
http://blog.jeffgerstmann.net/post/65304165708/this-is-still-breaking-news-but-do-you-want-to
532  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 27, 2013, 02:41:40 PM

Quote from: msduncan on October 27, 2013, 02:03:32 PM



I love it when media outlets start reporting on a Reddit rumor thread.

Awesome integrity.
The best part is that it's a GAF rumor that Reddit picked up.
533  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: October 27, 2013, 01:49:58 PM
Game looks to have an "Extinction" mode in which you fight tyranid/zerg type aliens.
534  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 27, 2013, 12:50:59 PM
I think Sessler's issue may be more publisher related than Sony or Microsoft.  I agree it's sounding YouTube related but I'm thinking EA or Activision as opposed to the console makers.
535  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 27, 2013, 01:32:44 AM
Of course the dudebros will care.  If the narrative gets out that one console plays all their manshoots better they are going to get that console.  The question is whether they will know or not.
536  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: October 27, 2013, 12:38:49 AM
CheapyD "confirming" CoD 720
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Iím not reviewing any Xbox One games so I will tell you right now, Ghosts on XB1 is indeed 720p vs PS4′s 1080p. Could that change? Maybe?
https://twitter.com/CheapyD/status/394239958799511552
537  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 27, 2013, 12:38:18 AM
CheapyD "confirming" CoD 720
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Iím not reviewing any Xbox One games so I will tell you right now, Ghosts on XB1 is indeed 720p vs PS4′s 1080p. Could that change? Maybe?
https://twitter.com/CheapyD/status/394239958799511552

BF4 rumor pretty strong, but the there's this undercurrent that the XB1 has bigger problems right now than running games at 720p while PS4 is 1080p. 
538  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 26, 2013, 09:14:49 PM
GAF mod
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BF4 720p on XB1 is definitely real.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87583465&postcount=289

PS4 res still unknown.
539  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 26, 2013, 09:10:31 PM
If CoD and BF4 are both 720 on the XB1 and 1080 on the PS4, oh boy.  If that's not the case MS really needs to get out in front of this, the narrative is building and just starting to snowball.
540  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Lots of PS4 game reviews in the next two weeks....no XB1 game reviews on: October 26, 2013, 03:03:46 PM
Well something sure has Adam Sessler surly

https://twitter.com/adamsessler/status/393945548186611712
541  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 25, 2013, 10:50:56 PM
Who knows what surprising means without knowing context of who he thinks his audience is for that quote.  Old school 360 folks who all saw Xbox outshine PS3, PS4 would be surprising.  Folks following the CoD 720p rumors, XB1 being better would be surprising, some other nonsense, who knows.
542  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: October 25, 2013, 03:54:13 PM
Plus the innate fear that the update servers are going to be overloaded.
543  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Orbis. aka PlayStation 4? The rumors are put to rest. on: October 25, 2013, 03:50:52 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on October 25, 2013, 03:47:44 PM

I think a day one patch is to be expected .. not sure i understand some of the teeth gnashing I'm seeing on the web
Yeah XB1 has one as well.  I think the gnashing is people just want to turn it on and play, heck that's why I got the BluRay version of Killzone, as I don't want to wait for that 50gb to download after hooking the PS4 up to my TV.
544  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: October 24, 2013, 11:58:13 PM
So, at the Sony Brazil conference Adam Boyes stated that CoD is native 1080p on the PS4.   Still no word out of the XB1 camp, and some of the rumormongers are doubling down on it not being 1080p on the XB1.
545  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4] Killzone Shadow Fall on: October 24, 2013, 10:10:02 PM
Three different approaches to the same scenario.  I'm disappointed with the lack of melee take downs in the stealth run though.

Stealth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMA2_tFbgEo

BadAss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uLqniziDw

Fall of Keyser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAWTVWGM9BM
546  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 24, 2013, 03:38:54 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 24, 2013, 03:38:16 PM

Has anything been said about how noisy the fans and disc trays are for each system?
They are supposedly both whisper quiet.
547  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4] Killzone Shadow Fall on: October 24, 2013, 02:48:34 PM
Speaking of multiplayer, big preview video here, lots of footage and info.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaSsjCBxArE
548  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS4] Killzone Shadow Fall on: October 24, 2013, 12:35:48 PM
Lots of previews today, pretty much everywhere.

http://www.gamespot.com/videos/a-gutsy-story-changes-your-perspective-of-killzone/2300-6415717/
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/24/killzone-shadow-fall-is-beautiful-and-challenging






549  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 24, 2013, 01:01:30 AM
That was confirmed for both Xb1 and PS4.  Note only the PC and PS4 version were at the press event though.

And I really want to see gameplay because that replay style trailer looked great.
550  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 23, 2013, 05:58:00 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 23, 2013, 05:28:15 PM

Quote from: Hetz on October 23, 2013, 05:15:06 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on October 23, 2013, 04:17:15 PM

Their GPU is a bit weaker than the PS4 GPU as well, but the eSRAM does seem to be an issue.


Yeah, the eSRAM seems to be the major issue so far. True, the GPU may be a small issue now....but I think it will be a more major issue down the road, than right now....which obviously is not good.

I'm not at all knowledgeable about the implications of the eSRAM choice.  In the early days of the PS3, there was all that hoopla about how the anti-aliasing ability of the system was just about nonfunctional, but as the years went on it became less and less of an issue.  What makes the eSRAM limitations more dire?

They'll probably sort out some of their issues with eSRAM over time.  The GPU will always be weaker though.

I believe these are the GPU specs

Quote from: from NeoGAF
Xbone: 1.18 TF GPU (12 CUs) for games
Xbone: 768 Shaders
Xbone: 48 Texture units
Xbone: 16 ROPS
Xbone: 2 ACE/ 16 queues

PS4: 1.84TF GPU ( 18 CUs) for games + 56%
PS4: 1152 Shaders +50%
PS4: 72 Texture units +50%
PS4: 32 ROPS + 100%
PS4: 8 ACE/64 queues +400%
551  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 23, 2013, 04:17:15 PM
Their GPU is a bit weaker than the PS4 GPU as well, but the eSRAM does seem to be an issue.
552  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 23, 2013, 03:37:42 PM
George Brousard posted this today
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/393012014798229504
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Developers tell me that working on PS4 is much easier than Xbox One. A flipped situation from 360 vs PS3. Sounds like MS dropped the ball.
553  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 23, 2013, 03:21:32 PM
GAF thread finally locked, but with no comments from moderators.  Can't tell if they are locking it for size (they routinely do this) or for some other reason at this point.

Oops missed the post since it wasn't from a mod but modbot

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I think everyone here has a had a chance to express their opinion and the thread has run its logical course. If there is more news on this particular issue feel free to create a new thread.
554  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 23, 2013, 02:47:13 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 23, 2013, 02:29:07 PM

I know a few years back there were all those charts showing some ungodly percentage of HDTV owners thought HD looked great even though they hadn't even properly set up any actual HD content on the TV.  Has there been any more recent survey of that sort?  

I have a feeling that even if the 720/1080 rumors turn out to be true, the vast majority of consumers won't be able to tell the difference first hand.  It'll all just be about how much the angry hype train actually manages to filter from  review sites and our demographic down to the general masses.  

I think there's some truth to this but the hard core will know, and if they know there's a good chance the narrative will spread that the PS4 version is the best version and that narrative will be what reaches the mainstream gamer.
555  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: October 23, 2013, 02:30:06 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 23, 2013, 02:20:54 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on October 23, 2013, 02:04:56 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 23, 2013, 01:56:55 PM

If this ends up being true, the biggest shame to me will be that MS will take the fall and Activision will likely be mostly ignored.  Look at current gen COD, it looks like ass and runs at horrible resolutions and is then upscaled horribly. 

If it's 720p on both sure, but if it's only 720p on the XB1 and 1080p on the PS4 it's hard to blame Activision.

it would still fall on Activision, because if other developers (like Turn 10) can do 1080p, then at some level it's a fail on the dev as well as the hardware.  Maybe it's harder to develop on, but if they half ass it because they can and just shrug it off with a 'well, if the shit hits the fan, MS will take the hit' that's pretty shitty.

Not saying it would be all Activisions fault, but it's still their product.  If nobody was able to get 1080p working reliably then sure, it's 100% on MS. 



Right now it's only Turn 10 that is confirmed to hitting 1080p on the XB1.  Ryse is 900p, Killer Instinct is 720p, and Dead Rising 3 is some kind of variable resolution thing that changes on the fly.   
556  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 23, 2013, 02:05:45 PM
I haven't read it but surely it will be about Gaikai.
557  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: October 23, 2013, 02:04:56 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 23, 2013, 01:56:55 PM

If this ends up being true, the biggest shame to me will be that MS will take the fall and Activision will likely be mostly ignored.  Look at current gen COD, it looks like ass and runs at horrible resolutions and is then upscaled horribly. 

If it's 720p on both sure, but if it's only 720p on the XB1 and 1080p on the PS4 it's hard to blame Activision.
558  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: October 23, 2013, 03:16:08 AM
So the only real update from the trenches so far is that Albert Penello has come out and said the game looks great on XB1, but hasn't sited any resolution numbers, so make of that what you will. 
559  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: 30 days until launch. Which system are you getting? on: October 23, 2013, 02:05:35 AM

Quote from: msduncan on October 23, 2013, 01:29:51 AM


OK the story that was posted 25-30 minutes ago on the front page about COD running on Xbone at 720p whilst running at 1080p on PS4 has me freaking out.     If Xbone can't handle a cross generation title at 1080 how in the devil are they going to promise me that this thing will last even 3 years, much less 7 or 8?




I'd still wait for more confirmation before going into full panic mode.
560  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [360/PS3/PC/Wii U/PS4/XB1]Call of Duty:Ghosts on: October 23, 2013, 02:03:27 AM

Quote from: msduncan on October 23, 2013, 01:24:59 AM



Holy Crap

If this is true, then my confidence in Xbox One is finally shaken.    A cross-generational title having trouble running at 1080p?
Haha, I'd been waiting for more confirmation before posting that here, but I see it's on the front page.
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