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3161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PStwo on: October 20, 2004, 09:07:40 PM
Do they actually have a list of games they don't take or is it up to each store?
3162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Another HL2 question.....Sorry on: October 20, 2004, 08:21:59 PM
Quote from: "wankerjr"
Quote from: "Louis Cypher"
Will the HL2 retail come CD only? I want the DVD version, but I dont want to pay 70+ for it.  I hope thats not the case, anyone know about this?


If you want the DVD version you are going to have to buy the high priced Collector's Edition. Or you can import the European version since all they are getting is the DVD version (regular).

Really?  Since Gogamer has a great track record of getting imports for the same price when the imports are different I may be checking them out.
3163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Choice got tougher - Bloodlines now shipping the 16th too on: October 20, 2004, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: "Gryndyl"
You'd think Valve would have stipulated something in the Source contract to insure some sort of delay rather than let a same day kinda thing occur.

Regardless, is Troika insane? I know they want a November release at all but shipping the same day is like opening across from a Star Wars movie.

They have gotten a lot of good press and I think their is a good amount of interest in Bloodlines so it isn't a terrible idea.  

Yes they will not have as many sales but at this time of year I think it is "get the game out the door as soon as possible"  With the holiday shopping season upon us they really can't afford to wait until a week with less other releases.
3164  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Van Hamstrung is more like it on: October 20, 2004, 02:42:22 PM
It only goes downhill.  By the end it is so bad you are just praying it will end.
3165  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Top 5 Best New shows on TV on: October 20, 2004, 02:07:03 PM
The only one I have watched is Desperate Housewives.  It is quite good.  

I gave up on Joey after the first 3 episodes.  It really lacked the spark of Frieinds.
3166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Choice got tougher - Bloodlines now shipping the 16th too on: October 20, 2004, 01:30:37 PM
Well I think we all knew from interviews and stuff that Bloodlines was done but they had to wait until HL2 was released before they could release.

I figured it would be at least a week after HL2 but yesterday EBgames changed the release date from 11/8 (obviously wrong) to 11/16.  If their contract with Valve lets them release that close to HL2 then I see no reason they couldn't (game is done, etc.)

So now for those of us interested in single player games.....the choice is tough.  I think HL2 will have a pretty good story but Bloodlines looks so cool....

I may have to take a coin to toss with me to the store on 11/16
3167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Day of Defeat - worth the $10 extra bucks? on: October 20, 2004, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: "weeskwee"
i spent $8 for a chicken bowl and a large coke for lunch on monday. and it was gone in half an hour. i put $10 of gas in my car and it doesnt even fill 1/4 of the tank.

Don't put it in perspective!

3168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Day of Defeat - worth the $10 extra bucks? on: October 19, 2004, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: "wonderpug"
Well, to be fair, didn't DoD come out before the big huge deluge of WWII games?

True but that doesn't mean that DoD 2 (which is sort of what  DoD:Source is) is necessary.

As someone on the fence is just makes sense for me to buy the cheapest and then buy DoD if I want it later.  There doesn't seem to be a downside unless DoD costs more to buy separatley.
3169  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Pre-load. Crackable or No? on: October 19, 2004, 08:37:11 PM
Considering Valve's track record for security I am suprised it isn't leaked already!  Tongue

Stolen code, accidentally uploaded dialogue, etc.  

I bet their parking lot is full of unlocked cars.
3170  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half Life 2: Countdown to November 16 on: October 19, 2004, 08:30:10 PM
Wouldn't a calendar work just as well? smile
3171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Day of Defeat - worth the $10 extra bucks? on: October 19, 2004, 08:28:52 PM
I went out and dug around a bit and I don't see a huge draw for it.

How many WW2 on line games do we really need?

It also seems I could just add that later from Steam if I decided I wanted to play it.
3172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Day of Defeat - worth the $10 extra bucks? on: October 19, 2004, 05:16:53 PM
The 2 cheapest steam versions are Bronze  $49.99 with HL2 and Counter Strike or the Silver version for $59.99 with Day of Defeat ( PLUS: Valve's back catalog available on Steam! Like I am going to play Half-life 1?  Yeah right.)

My question is - will DoD be hugely popular?  I don't care to play on-line much except at the occassional lan party so I only need what people will be playing at those.   Is DoD big?
3173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [PR - XBOX] "Halo 2" Makes Entertainment History on: October 19, 2004, 05:05:13 PM
Quote from: "Destructor"
*rips the PR and posts it* biggrin

Still, it's amazing how well this game has presold, no? That's a LOT of Halo 2 games floating around.

Especially since people can already play the French version.  :wink:
3174  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / DVD Tuesday 10-19 on: October 19, 2004, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: "Lordnine"

What is the general concensus on Van Helsing?

I hated Van Helsing, one of the worst movies I’ve sat through in theater.  And this is coming from someone who really liked the first Mummy movie and thought the second was at least a fun diversion

That sums up my opinion.  It was terrible, really really, really, really terrible.

Or as Mr Cranky Says

Simply put, nothing is enough here, and it's like being force-fed rice cakes with a shovel. Van Helsing (Hugh Jackman) is no longer simply Dracula's nemesis: He's a fighter of all things evil in a story that reads like Sommers's dog chewed up a library of Evil Cliffs Notes and barfed up a script. Dracula (Richard Roxburgh) leads the chaos, but to recount the story in any way that makes sense would require about twenty more paragraphs and an abacus. Suffice it to say that if Van Helsing kills Dracula and a variety of minions including three female vampires, a werewolf, Count Chocula, and possibly Frankenstein's monster (Shuler Hensley), he will save Anna Valerious (Kate Beckinsale) from eternal purgatory and a role in "Underworld 2."
3175  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half Life 2 Gold on Monday? on: October 19, 2004, 01:18:40 PM
Now if they would just announce a version on DVD without the extra stuff.

I don't care to have the code, it just isn't my thing.  Heck I doubt I even play the game on-line but I hate the idea of having 5 cds!  It is just annoying!
3176  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / DVD Tuesday 10-19 on: October 19, 2004, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: "Thin_J"

I don't know if I'm going to grab the new DVD though, as that would be the third time this year I'd gotten double-dipped by the damned movie companies because I liked their movie enough to buy the first DVD they released.

I am starting to really hate the double dipping thing.  It is to the point where you need to check the internet with every release to see if there are rumors of a bigger/extra featured release in the future.

I just saw on Amazon that there will be a Pirates of the Carribeanan (sp) Special Edition before Christmass.  I bought that movie a year ago!  Grrr....
3177  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / DVD Tuesday 10-19 on: October 19, 2004, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: "Thin_J"

It's a comic book movie that sticks at least fairly closely to it's source material. Did you really expect it to be realistic and believable? I thought it was great fun to watch.

I expected a good comic book movie.  I loved the X-men movies, I loved the Spiderman movies, Blade - loved em (can't wait for the 3rd one!).  However there are a lot of bad comic book movies (the punisher, daredevil for example) and I think Hellboy falls right into that catagory.
3178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Paper Mario 2 Impressions on: October 19, 2004, 12:45:36 PM
Great game!  It actually got me to dust off my Cube and plug it back in.

Unfortunately Shadow Hearts: Covenant for the PS2 is really sinking its claws into me....

However the lighter tone of PM:TTYD makes it a good change once in awhile.
3179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / We need a HL2 pool on: October 18, 2004, 09:22:36 PM
Quote from: "AgtFox"
dangerballs wins, although he edited his post on Saturday, so I have no clue what it said before.

I thought that seemed suspicious too.  However since the only prize is knowing you were right it isn't like he is going to retire in the Bahamas.
3180  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / DVD Tuesday 10-19 on: October 18, 2004, 09:19:23 PM
Collectors Hellboy?  Does this include scenes that make it not suck?

Sorry but it was a bad movie.  The final "boss" is a big blob thing?  It can be destroyed with a few granades?

How come her clothes don't burn?  How come when she fries the entire room of monster, the FBI agent lives?

etc., etc.  

A ton of plot holes and a generally boring villian added up to a very dull movie.
3181  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half Life 2 gold? You bet! (Nov. 16th release) on: October 18, 2004, 02:02:56 AM
One thought just occured to me.  Patches.  If Valve is feeling all pissed at VU will they be as quick to release patches for the store bought copy as they do for thier Steam version?  

Really it is an extra layer of work for them.  They can just push patches out through Steam but they will have to create installers, etc. for those peopel who buy a store version and are unwilling to let Steam do updating.  

Part of me says "of course they won't screw the customers that way" but I remember very clearly Derek Smart's issues with his game and how he refused to put out patches because he felt the publisher had put out a flawed game.  I doubt things have come to that point with Valve and VU but the precident is there for that type of fighting.
3182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / GBA questions of all sorts on: October 17, 2004, 08:11:24 PM
What kind of games do you like?  

Right now I have been having a great time with Mario Golf - Advance Tour.  This year I have also loved Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars 2, and Ultimate Card Games off the top of my head.

There seem to be games for every taste I can imagine so I hope you can find something.

Check out and look at what has been hightly rated in each catagory.
3183  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Should we light the watchfires? (all Gone Golders) on: October 17, 2004, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: "Kevin Grey"
At this stage I think "Where did GG go?" threads have appeared on just about every major board you could expect to be trafficked by former regulars.

Me too.  I can't think of a forum I go to which doesn't have talk about GG and where people are going.  I have posted in a few of those.

The problem is that what you really are saying is "don't stay here, come over to us!"  I know it isn't what you mean but that is how it seems especially to people paying for those sites you are trying to get people to leave.    Another interpretation is "your community sucks, GGers go to X site to find a good community."   Now of course that isn't what you mean either but it is easy to see how people would think that.
3184  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Anyone watching Desperate Housewives on ABC? on: October 15, 2004, 04:13:41 PM
I just watched the first episode...great show!  I hope they can keep this up.  I can't imagine how a show like this could go on for seasons and seasons but if it keeps up the quality of the pilot I am there!

I haven't watched the second episode yet either....TiVo has totally changed how I watch TV.  There is just no rush.  When I feel like it, it will be there.
3185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Trying too find a two deck version of freecell. on: October 15, 2004, 12:58:10 PM
I have never seen a two deck version.

There are "unsolvable" ones though.  Start the windows version, and go to select a game.  Then put in "-1" as the game number.  You get an unwinable game.

Now it could be argued that that game would never come up but statistically there is a tiny, tiny chance.
3186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Halo 2 has been leaked. on: October 14, 2004, 08:31:31 PM
Question -

Do you think reporting about this is a good thing?  I mean people who didn't know are being told by every news site.  It is obviously news but at the same time doesn't this just make the problem worse?
3187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 news - does this actuall make people feel better? on: October 14, 2004, 08:26:38 PM
Quote from: "raydude"
Quote from: "farley2k"

Of course the first thing we heard was "It will be out Sept. 30th 20031"  So from that standpoint it is an incredibly delayed game!  It has slipped past a "firm" release date by over a year.  

I dunno, but it seems they beat their release date by 18,027 years!  :shock:  Go Valve!  :wink:

3188  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 news - does this actuall make people feel better? on: October 14, 2004, 08:26:12 PM
Quote from: "warning"
If they hurried and shipped it before it is ready (TOEE anyone?) we'd complain.

If they take too long to ship it, we'll complain.

I don't understand the sheer amount of emotion involved in waiting for a game.  I don't recommend fluffing Gabe but I also don't think he's the Antichrist either.

I think for me personally it is more to do with...well I find bitching fun. smile  And there is no shortage of screw ups by Valves PR.
3189  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Halo 2 has been leaked. on: October 14, 2004, 02:49:40 PM
I saw one comment of Evil Avatar that was "First Doom 3 now this..."

I couldn't help but laugh.  Do they really think Doom 3 was the first big release pirated before?  Hell there was leaked version of Bungie's "Oni" 6 months before the release!  And it was the complete version!  

Every game gets pirated these days.  The only thing that stops people is respect for the developers/publisher.
3190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 news - does this actuall make people feel better? on: October 14, 2004, 02:22:38 PM
Quote from: "BigRedCat"
I love that none of us had seen a single thing on Half-Life 2 before May 2003. Now a mere year and a half later tons of people are calling this a incredibly delayed game and whining everytime anything is said about it. Sure the release announcement was stupid, but who really cares? How many games are released within a year and a half of announcement?

I laugh that anyone here takes themselves seriously. Enjoy the game, drop the complaining, do something else with your life. When it comes out it will be good.

Of course the first thing we heard was "It will be out Sept. 30th 20031"  So from that standpoint it is an incredibly delayed game!  It has slipped past a "firm" release date by over a year.  

I laugh at anyone who come into threads knowing full well they are about complaining and then act like people shouldn't complain.  Why do you even come into the thread?
3191  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 news - does this actuall make people feel better? on: October 13, 2004, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: "CeeKay"
Shouldn't this be in Road to Gold slywink   <ducks>

It kind of makes you wonder what the reviewers were given if there are 'show stoppers' still in the game.

Yes it probably should.  I forgot it was open again!   Howver I can't move it so for now it will stay here.
3192  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 news - does this actuall make people feel better? on: October 13, 2004, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: "raydude"
Many times in my career as engineer who happens to write code have I experienced show stoppers. Often right after I give "releaseable" code to a test user.

Often times the said test user finds a couple of show stoppers. Does this make me a bad programmer?  I like to think not, and I challenge other coders to provide anecdotal experience to the contrary.

Now, the code I have written involves a simple window with simple text commands and/or looking for input files. Imagine how much harder it would be to find bugs in an FPS which includes multiplayer, AI, and all the rest.

And what is the rant about anyway? Is it about the fact that they aren't releasing the code because there are 3 show-stoppers?  Or is this from some pre-conceived managerial notion that they've had enough time to catch all the bugs? I've had managers who thought that way only to be shown the error of their thinking.

1. my rant it is about my gerenal annoyance that anything to do with HL2 is news.  Most specifically it has to do with my annoyance that somehow this little tidbit was suposed to make us feel better or at least show that HL2 is progressing.  All it makes me see is that Valve's PR is terrible.  

2. I am probably being to hard on them but when your game is this big I think people tend to be hard on it.
3193  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / We need a HL2 pool on: October 13, 2004, 02:14:09 PM
Quote from: "CeeKay"
November 26th.  The Biggest shopping day of the year, the day after Thanksgiving.  All of the PC gaming stores will go crazy biggrin

I thought about that but I picked a few days before so that it could be sure to have shipped to all places.  It is not just a big shopping week but also a big shipping week and if they have any brains they will try to ship it earlier in the week to make sure stores have it.
3194  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 news - does this actuall make people feel better? on: October 13, 2004, 02:09:01 PM
Many news sites are posting this blurb.

HL Fallout posted some information from an "anonymous industry insider" regarding the release of Half-Life 2 (they seem pretty reliable so what the hell). Here's the latest poop:
Vivendi is very eager to get the game out ASAP and Valve submitted RC5 late last week to Vivendi for testing. I think they were down to three show stoppers after RC4, nothing huge. They're being very careful about getting a stable release out the door and with all the big reviews hitting the net I'm not surprised. It's looking to be something very special. The delays are not Vivendi sitting on a finished game or Valve not playing fair.

Now does that make anyone feel better?

Only "3 show stoppers!"  is said like we should be excited that despite saying it would be done last year and spending a year getting it done that they only have 3 show stopping bugs!  Yippie!  They deserve a treat.

I know I am being hard on them but come on.  To still have show stopping bugs in release candidate 3?  I thought that when Valve gave release candidate 1 they were saying they felt the game was well...releaseable.  Then VU looks it over and catches any minor other bugs.  However I must have been totally wrong.  Apparently what it means to give a RC to the publisher is "we know it is screwed up and broken but we are sick of dealing with it.  Just tell us what has to be fixed for you to push it on to consumers."

That certainly didn't make me feel better.
3195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / We need a HL2 pool on: October 13, 2004, 02:45:16 AM
I was thinking that we need a pool as to when HL2 comes out.  Kind of like they do for what day a baby will be born or such.  The only draw back is that I don't have squat for a prize.

I am willing to keep track of who pick which day but without a prize...well it is just bragging rights.  Is that enough?

Anyway, anyone interested pick a day (and no picking a day someone already has)  If anyone wants to donate a prize let me know.

To start it off I am picking....

November 22nd
3196  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / The Skinny on Rich (and Gonegold somewhat) SEE 1ST POST EDIT on: October 13, 2004, 02:34:08 AM
Quote from: "Darrell999"

Where will everyone go?  I'm not really into consoles, so I can't see myself checking this site that often.  My main hobby is computer gaming, and I would guess that's true of most of you guys, too.  So where else will we go?  Avault forums?  Quarter to Three?  I wonder if we could try to see where most of the Gone Gold Refugees will hang out, and who knows, maybe it will almost be like the Good Ol' Days again...

Edit: Looking around these forums, I see that it's not just console stuff...and hey, the PC forum looks promising!  Maybe I've just found a new home here...

But I'm still curious as to where most GG Refugees will be heading.

I hope they head here.  It is nice to have that sense of community and I think that is found where all the people meet.

I think if people keep hopping around looking for the community instead of staying somewhere and letting the community grow back they will never find it again....does that make sense?
3197  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Joe Pesci hasn't made a movie in six years. on: October 13, 2004, 02:30:05 AM
Best news I have heard all day.  Thanks.  biggrin
3198  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Paper Mario review up at Gamespot on: October 12, 2004, 09:37:25 PM
Quote from: "EddieA"
This probably isn't uncommon.  The last time I read PC Gamer, they even stated in their score explanation that "niche" games wouldn't score over 90% no matter how good they were.  This is very stupid, though.  Even a cursory glance at a game like Paper Mario is enough to tell you that it's not going to be some sort of dark, adult-oriented game.  It should be easy to tell from the review if it's a kind of game you would be personally interested in.  There's no need for that to be reflected in the score.

It also seems to me that it ignores a games merits in favor what's popular.   So only the Brittney Spears of games is great....but as we all know great music isn't defined by being popular....nor are great games.  

It also seems like they then must just sway in the wind.  Back when Fallout came out the RPG genre on PCs was in a big slump.  So GI would have had to say the game wasn't great....however now RPGs are quite popular so GI would have to say it is great....same game but the reviews would have to change based on when they came out.

I don't think I like that kind of reviewing.  I guess the folks at GI can go buy Christina Agularia's new album, and curl up to play whatever game is selling best right now but I want a bit more from my reviews.
3199  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Rate X-Men Legends for single player on: October 12, 2004, 05:29:06 PM
Yes.  It is fun and cool for single player.  

I have mostly played in single player and am still finding it very interesting/exciting.  The story is good and the action is quite fun for single player.
3200  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS2 RPG suggestions on: October 12, 2004, 04:16:18 PM
Quote from: "Hamlet3145"
Thanks for all the suggestions!  Another random question:  is there any particular reason that the PS2 has so many more RPS than other consoles?  Things seem kind of skewed.  :wink:

Yes, it is a better console. smile

Seriously it probably has to do with the fact that Sony has a much deeper market in Japan than MS and many/most of the RPGs listed are from Japaness companies.  So naturally they want to program on a system which will sell well in their own country.
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