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3161  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Continuing Blu-Ray/PS3 value discussion to avoid derail from Motostorm threa on: December 18, 2006, 07:15:27 PM
Lets keep it calm and happy - it is the holiday season after all!
3162  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: If you don't fall in love with DQ9 after this new video, you have no heart on: December 16, 2006, 06:22:23 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on December 16, 2006, 03:54:44 PM

Except for MMOs and Oblivion I do not play RPGs anymore, so I am not going to argue with you.  I'll just say that I already knew almost exactly what that DQ9 video was going to look like before I watched it.  While the Mass Effect video totally blew me away when I watched it.  Yes Bioware sticks to the same basic formula too. I just think they camouflage it better.

To each their own.  I knew almost exactly what Oblivion was going to look like before I saw videos of it.  Same with Mass Effect.  I mean come on, they have Jedi powers in the game!  They are so tied to their KOTOR system then have force choke!  Yeah they call it something different but it plays the same.   While I will say that Bioware usually hides their formula better I don't think they did with ME.  You can travel to different planets, you have force powers, etc.  Heck I half expect a sarcastic robot talking about meatbags.
3163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: media connect with 360 on: December 15, 2006, 05:29:30 PM
MS does seem to be making this harder than it needs to be.  I got it working for pictures and mp3s but I haven't had much luck with video.

I will download tversity sometime and try it out to see if it is easier, but I doubt it will be.

3164  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / FF3 - I am at that point where I usually quit on: December 15, 2006, 01:49:59 PM
It always seems to happen in classic RPGs - the final long, long dungeon without saves, without any really neat new equipment, skills, or story development.  It just becomes a long slog for hours before a final boss fight. 

Anyone else just want to give up at this point?  All that is really left is a final cut scene which I bet I can find on Youtube or something.

3165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next batch of Wiis? on: December 14, 2006, 11:01:41 PM
Alright so what are this week's rumors?  Thousands at Kmart?  Hundreds at local grocery stores?

3166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Third Party component cables... yay or nay? Wii. on: December 14, 2006, 07:55:18 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 14, 2006, 07:16:39 PM

Do you have a Cube or another console hooked up via component? While the graphics themselves will obviously vary, you should see similar levels of color fidelity, contrast, sharpness, etc.  If the Wii looks excessively washed out or blurry compared to other consoles hooked up via component then the culprit is probably the 3rd party cables. 


I do, I do!  I have my 360 plugged in through component.  I will give it a look.
3167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Third Party component cables... yay or nay? Wii. on: December 14, 2006, 07:10:30 PM
How can I tell?  I am not a video-phile, I don't have HD TV but I bought the generic component cables at BB because that was all they had and I didn't want to get S-video (due to lack of inputs on the switcher box I have)

Without an HD tv is this going to be a huge issue?
3168  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Final Fantasy XII Impressions on: December 13, 2006, 08:09:56 PM
I played a bit last night...I am around 30 hours...I am losing the fire a bit.   I spent most of my time being annoyed last night at the gambit system.  It is a great leap forward but it has a ton of room for improvement.  Last night I had Vaan set to steal from enemy at 100%...and of course I got mobbed so I had to manually keep forcing him to focus on a single enemy until dead.  Finally I just had to shut off that gambit altogether.  I haven't found a good steal gambit and it is annoying because money is so hard to come by. 
3169  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: It's good to see our tax dollars at work. on: December 11, 2006, 10:01:12 PM
Sorry about seeming to spam the thread but I have lots of thoughts on the subject and just noticed the thread.



Today on NPR I heard a great story which illustrates why it doesn't matter if ice ages have happened before (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6607672).  Basically it pointed out that insurance companies are not willing to insure certain coastal regions because they believe that global warming will make those places more prone to storms, disasters, etc.

See the real world effect of GW isn't going to be the destruction of all life, it probably won't even mean the extinction of mankind but it will mean a vastly different economy, and lifestyle.  More of our energy will be spent on heating, more building materials will be used to repair from disasters - basically more of our economy will be sucked into dealing with things related to GW.   

Now that isn't necessarily bad.  We can retool our economy to make money off that, we can move people from jobs making SUVs to making better building materials for at risk areas.  But there will be a period of adjustment - lost jobs, lost insurance, etc.

So, no I don't everything will die, etc. but I think it may become much harder to afford a 360 and HDTV with higher insurance costs, higher fuel costs, etc. 
3170  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: It's good to see our tax dollars at work. on: December 11, 2006, 09:47:34 PM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on December 09, 2006, 06:29:02 PM

One of the primary reasons I feel an urge to dissent about global warming is because of the way prominent global warming folks treat dissent on the issue.


And yet people say that "environmentalism has long since passed from the realm of science into some sort of pseudo-religion, where feelings and emotion take precedence over actual fact and logic."

It seems to me that arguing against global warming, despite the evidence it actually much more of an emotional issue.  And I will tell you why - because people are afraid they might have to give up something.  If they admit global warming is real, and that humans are increasing it then they might have to reconsider the SUV, and other lifestyle choices.  If GW is true then not doing stuff to prevent it is helping to destroy the lives of their kids, and their grandkids.  People want to have this comfy happy idea that they are making the world better, or at the very least not destroying it for the children they pretend to love.  If GW is true then they have to say do I love my kids more or my SUV....and they don't like the answer as they sit in their Armada (which is just a funny name!  Think about it, it is a single vehicle so freaking huge it is names for a group!) 
3171  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: It's good to see our tax dollars at work. on: December 11, 2006, 09:40:04 PM

Quote from: Laner on December 11, 2006, 06:35:14 PM


And there certainly is not a scientific consensus that global warming is a man-made, potentially disastrous occurrence. But of course,  anyone who dissents is automatically dismissed and broad-stroked with the "in the pocket of big oil" brush




And really figure out what "consensus" means.  From Websters "majority of opinion: The consensus of the group was that they should meet twice a month."

Posting one article doesn't show consensus.  But Farley - how many are needed?  Well how about 928

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In December 2004, Science published an essay [8] by geologist and science historian Naomi Oreskes [9] that summarized a study of the scientific literature on climate change. The essay concluded that there is a scientific consensus on the reality of anthropogenic climate change. The author analyzed 928 abstracts of papers from refereed scientific journals between 1993 and 2003, listed with the keywords "global climate change". The abstracts were divided into six categories: explicit endorsement of the consensus position, evaluation of impacts, mitigation proposals, methods, paleoclimate analysis, and rejection of the consensus position. 75% of the abstracts were placed in the first three categories, thus either explicitly or implicitly accepting the consensus view; 25% dealt with methods or paleoclimate, thus taking no position on current anthropogenic climate change; none of the abstracts disagreed with the consensus position, which the author found to be "remarkable". It was also pointed out, "authors evaluating impacts, developing methods, or studying paleoclimatic change might believe that current climate change is natural. However, none of these papers argued that point."



Check out The Wikipedia page for more information about the consensus about global warming.





3172  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: It's good to see our tax dollars at work. on: December 11, 2006, 09:28:24 PM

Quote from: Laner on December 11, 2006, 06:35:14 PM

But how do we know it's not cyclical?  We don't have hard weather data for 200/300/400 years ago.  Soil samples and such can only tell you so much. 

What about the various ice ages?  There was obviously some serious "global warming" going on long before the industrial revolution, otherwise we'd still be seeing glaciers in Kansas. 


But the thing is, I don't give a crap if the woolly mamoth went extinct.  I care if humans will be going extinct.  The fact that ice ages happened in the past is true....and almost completely unimportant to whether we should do things which worsen the problem. 




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[And there certainly is not a scientific consensus that global warming is a man-made, potentially disastrous occurrence. But of course,  anyone who dissents is automatically dismissed and broad-stroked with the "in the pocket of big oil" brush

Surely you can do better than an article written a decade ago!  (ok, 9 years)  No new research has been done? 




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I'm all for being environmentally conscious and taking care of our planet, but environmentalism has long since passed from the realm of science into some sort of pseudo-religion, where feelings and emotion take precedence over actual fact and logic.

???  That makes no sense.  It doesn't refute any data, it doesn't offer any scientific analysis it just tries to discredit environmentalism with name calling.
3173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii: Well you can't say they didn't warn us on: December 07, 2006, 04:27:01 PM

Quote from: kathode on December 07, 2006, 03:54:52 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on December 06, 2006, 10:52:34 PM

I do feel that way about all the improvements you've mentioned.  Everytime a new technology comes out there is a rush of games that focus so much on 'that next new thing' that they suffer in other categories.  I'm hoping they don't do it with this.

Sweet!  We can finally halt all technical progress.  This will make my job so much easier, thank you! :slywink:
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Are you honestly saying that it wouldn't be nice sometimes to not have to worry about using new hardware?  I look at Final Fantasy 12 and I have to say that I think a "closed" system does offer some advantages. 
3174  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / LF: Final Fantasy Advance: V on: December 07, 2006, 02:58:57 AM
Anyone finished with it yet? 
3175  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii: Well you can't say they didn't warn us on: December 06, 2006, 02:21:36 PM

Quote from: Kobra on December 06, 2006, 05:39:41 AM

Man, I just had a bad feeling about that remote from day one.

Biggest fear:  Developers going "Hey, lets see what we can do with the remote!", moreso than "Lets make a great game!"..  Lens flare, etc.


I don't see it really.  Do you say that same thing when you read about DirectX 10?  Or higher broadband speeds?  Faster CPUs?   I don't think a new controller is what prevents developers from making great games.  I think it is actually small improvements in current technology (like faster video cards, etc.) and a mentality of follow the proven games (i.e. new Madden every year, Call of Duty 84 - nursing home offensive) which stops great games. 

3176  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: FF3: Levels and Job Levels on: December 05, 2006, 06:38:03 PM
It would be nice if learning things in on job either opened other jobs or improved your skills in them.  Say to be a Magus you had to be a certain level of Black mage first etc.  Of course this happens in later games so that is just part of playing old, old games. 

Makes you notice the improvements in later games though.
3177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: FF3: Levels and Job Levels on: December 05, 2006, 05:08:15 PM
I am kinda done trying to worry about the jobs.  I am just taking fun ones I think.  I kept using a thief since I know that some of the best equipment can only be stolen but the job is dull.  All he ever did was steal, and 99% of the time it was just a Hi-potion, or something else not worth crap.  I am sure if I got him up to level 99 I could steal cool stuff but it is just too dull!  Not to mention there is just a chance of stealing an item so even if he was level 99 I might have to redo the same fight again and again to get the good item.

Now I am just doing fun jobs and having a much better time.


3178  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: wii,knocks up 600,000 in 8 days on: December 04, 2006, 05:10:02 PM

Quote from: Laner on December 04, 2006, 01:41:18 PM

I've said it before - the DC sold half a million units in the US during it's first two weeks.  Initial sales don't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Initial sales mean a huge, huge amount in a 24 hour, global news world.  Initial sales and positive buzz are much more important these days than they used to be.  A large part of the success of new system is the launch. 
3179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Got my Wii on: December 04, 2006, 01:59:24 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on December 04, 2006, 01:14:48 AM

Quote from: Calvin on December 03, 2006, 11:26:52 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 03, 2006, 11:25:18 PM

Heh...what's the point of waiting until Christmas when you bought it yourself and know what it is?

Im also not understanding this


In my case it's my big Christmas gift from my wife.  I managed to cut a deal to play my 360 early last year under similar conditions but I could tell my wife really wasn't happy witih it and it did make Christmas feel a bit anticlimactic.  So this year I'm sticking to it and leaving the Wii under the tree. 



Similar for me.  It is a gift from my wife and my mother in law.  To our family $300 is a huge present so I am willing to wait till Christmas out of respect for their generosity.
3180  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Got my Wii on: December 03, 2006, 09:51:04 PM

Quote from: DarkEL on December 03, 2006, 05:26:39 PM

So went to my local Target at 6am this morning and stood outside in the freezing cold for 2 hours. (I was 8th in line) and was able to leave successfully with a brand new Wii in hand.

It's now nestled snugly under the christmas tree waiting until Christmas Eve to be opened.

Woot!


LOL!  Me too.  Well I only got to my Target at 6:30 but still, got the Wii and now I can stare at the wrapped box for 20 days! 

3181  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next batch of Wiis? on: December 03, 2006, 03:57:31 PM
I lucked out.  Went to Target at 6:30 and there were only 6 people in line.  They ended up having 30 units and I think people who showed up as late as 7:30 got one which is pretty good considering the store opened at 8. 

Of course now it is being wrapped and put under the tree until Christmas.  frown
3182  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Senior Editor of CNET and his Family go Missing on: December 01, 2006, 03:32:13 PM
I hope he is alright.


I did find it funny that I clicked on the link and was first taken to an ad.  "Please read this sad news, but first a word from our sponsers!"  Yeah I know it is automatic but I found it darkly funny.
3183  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next batch of Wiis? on: November 30, 2006, 09:52:19 PM

Quote from: Tebunker on November 30, 2006, 09:46:27 PM

Well, Farley I think the idea is that getting more people in the store causes more of a buzz. As well, they do expect and do get a lot of side sales because of doing this. Think of the guys and gals who bring significant others with them. My wife almost always gets a CD or something small when we're at Bestbuy, that adds up over the amount of people going into the store. It's advertised as well and that has an impact. Normally they make agreements with Nintendo on stuff like this, as well, they promise a minimum number of systems.

If your wife almost always buys something then wouldn't Target want you in there everyday looking for a Wii?  Then she would buy 7 cds instead of just one.  I guess that is my thinking. 


In the end I think I am just bitter because I don't have a Wii yet. smile
3184  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Retail Adventure. on: November 30, 2006, 09:19:59 PM
Locked at request of OP
3185  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next batch of Wiis? on: November 30, 2006, 07:26:26 PM

Quote from: farley2k on November 30, 2006, 02:07:18 PM

As the weekend approaches has anyone heard any rumors on the Internet or from people working in stores about sales this weekend?  Is Best Buy doing the same thing again with a guaranteed number per store or that kind of thing?


As if to answer my question this thread on digg caught my eye.  Seems that stores are again waiting for Sunday. 

I wonder if it works...I mean they know they will sell out so the waiting till Sunday must be on the assumption that getting a bunch of people in the store will cause some of them to buy other stuff.  If they only expected to sell the Wii they could put them out whenever during the week.  So does forcing people into lines like this actually make more sales on other stuff, or just it just keep people out of the store all week?  If I want a Wii and I didn't know what day they would have some I might go into Target every day to check.  While I am there I might pick up some toilet paper, or a few gifts for other family members.  However, if I know that Sunday is the only day they will have any I will only go on Sunday and if there is a big line I will just head home because it would be stupid to wait around. 


3186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next batch of Wiis? on: November 30, 2006, 02:07:18 PM
As the weekend approaches has anyone heard any rumors on the Internet or from people working in stores about sales this weekend?  Is Best Buy doing the same thing again with a guaranteed number per store or that kind of thing?
3187  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bill Harris, WE GET IT - you hate Sony (Dubious Quality) on: November 29, 2006, 09:56:05 PM
Just to be fair, I don't always agree with Bill.  This may be one of his worst thought out and illogical posts ever.

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Oh, so THIS study didn't show any connection, but "other" studies have? Funny, to the best of my knowledge there's no consensus on that. Some studies do show a connection, but others don't.

He sounds like someone trying to say Global Warming doesn't exist.  You can find contrary studies about every subject.  Hell you can still find studies saying smoking isn't bad for you. 


Quote
44 people? What, were 666 not available?
 

What is this?  I don't even get this.  Is he trying to say that the study authors already thought games were evil so they should have just used the number of the beast? 

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So this was a big deal in 2002, and it took him four years to perform another study with 44 subjects? And the study consisted of playing a game for half an hour, then having a one-hour MRI? That took four years?

Again this has nothing to do with the validity of the study.  It is just an attempt to make the reader (us) question the study because it took to long.

Well Vista must suck because it took a hell of a long time to come out. 



And finally his completely illogical conclusion

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Look, this appears for all the world to be another guy who wants some headlines and wants some "research" funded to reach a pre-determined conclusion.

Sorry, Bill but you very clearly disagree with the conclusion and you are using illogical, cheap tactics (maybe 666 of them!) to try to cast doubt on the study. 






One of his weakest posts ever.
3188  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Have we reached a phase where personal responsibility ends? on: November 29, 2006, 05:20:33 PM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 29, 2006, 04:43:15 PM

If anyone is interested in a thoughtful legal analysis (under U.S. law) of this sort of thing, as opposed to a public policy/philosophical/ranty analysis, Eugene Volokh has a good law review article on crime-facilitating speech.


1. the article is 108 pages long!

2. the citations often take up more of the page than the article.


I am happy I didn't become a lawyer.
3189  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Have we reached a phase where personal responsibility ends? on: November 29, 2006, 04:27:45 PM

Quote from: Kobra on November 29, 2006, 04:15:47 PM

On a similar note, why not ban videos of people shooting guns, because someone might learn how to shoot one?  How about a video of someone crashing their car, because someone else might get the idea to crash their own car?  Where does it end?  Where do we draw the line?


Make a video showing how to make a nuclear bomb or Anthrax and I bet you find out where we draw the line. 

Or more realistically try making a video showing how to unlock an ATM or even a Coke machine...see what happens. 


In the DMCA world - make a video showing how to rip a DVD (for personal use of course).   




We already have a ton of stuff you can't make instructions for so I don't get how this is the phase where personal responsibility ends.

3190  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bill Harris, WE GET IT - you hate Sony (Dubious Quality) on: November 29, 2006, 04:05:52 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on November 29, 2006, 02:44:10 PM

Quote from: farley2k on November 29, 2006, 02:18:29 PM

I don't think he is obsessing any more than the rest of the folks who report/talk about current game trends.

Again, to me, it's the selective nature of his reporting.  There is just no denying the huge clusterfuck that is the PS3 launch.  But the 360 launch was a clusterfuck, too, albeit not as bad as the PS3.  But check out these comments he made about how great it was that the 360 was in short supply last year:


The 360 was alone as a next-gen machine last year.  This year Sony has to compete with a 360 which has a year of games - and is readily available, and a Wii which is getting a ton of great press. 

I would say the situation was almost completely different for the two launches.  And I think this opinion is backed up by the prices on Ebay.  The PS3 has tanked on Ebay in a way that the 360 did not. 
3191  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bill Harris, WE GET IT - you hate Sony (Dubious Quality) on: November 29, 2006, 02:18:29 PM
I guess, to me, as a Sony fanboy the screw-up, train wreck, crapfest which is the PS3 launch deserves even more ranting and bitching.  I love my PS2, I loved my PS1, many of my best gaming memories are on those systems and to see the companies lose of focus to push Blu-ray, embrace DRM, and the other crap just makes me sad. 

Today I was listening to this week's "This Week in Tech" and they were talking about the miserable Sony situation..and as I recall it was on TWiT some other times, and on Buzz out Loud, The Evil Avatar podcast, and on the Gamer's With Jobs podcat.

I don't think he is obsessing any more than the rest of the folks who report/talk about current game trends.

3192  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next batch of Wiis? on: November 29, 2006, 02:09:22 PM
In light of the thread about Nintento saying they had sold 600,000 Wiis so far I thought I would do a quick calculation on how many they will need to be shipping to reach that 4 million mark mentioned in an earlier thread.

They need to ship then 3,500,000 by the end of the year...now my calculator tells me that means they need to ship 100,000 units a day to make 4 million by the end of December!  (I used 31 days for Dec and gave them 4 extra days since it wasn't the end of the month when they made the announcement...but even 1 or 2 days extra is still a staggering number)


Does anyone seriously believe they are shipping 100,000 units a day?  I said only time will tell if they meet that but I feel pretty sure they will not. 
3193  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Search... on: November 29, 2006, 02:08:27 PM
In light of the thread about Nintento saying they had sold 600,000 Wiis so far I thought I would do a quick calculation on how many they will need to be shipping to reach that 4 million mark mentioned.

They need to ship then 3,500,000 by the end of the year...now my calculator tells me that means they need to ship 100,000 units a day to make 4 million by the end of December!  (I used 31 days for Dec and gave them 4 extra days since it wasn't the end of the month when they made the announcement...but even 1 or 2 days extra is still a staggering number)


Does anyone seriously believe they are shipping 100,000 units a day?  I said only time will tell if they meet that but I feel pretty sure they will not. 
3194  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bill Harris, WE GET IT - you hate Sony (Dubious Quality) on: November 29, 2006, 03:43:28 AM
Ok, seriously


1.  Some of you seem to misunderstand.  Dubious Quality is a personal blog, which often talks about gaming - not a gaming blog.  The stories about his family, the links to news he finds interesting, etc. are just as important as the gaming stuff. 

2. If you wrote a blog which often talked about gaming, what else would you be writing about this holiday season?  The PS3 and the Wii are the big stories of this holiday season.   Seriously how many stories have you read/seen in the media about other stuff?  Lots of stories on www.evilavatar.com about Viva Pinata?  Even Gears of War faded quite quickly in the press.  Yes Bill talks a lot about the PS3 and Wii but that is what is important right now...gee damm him for being topical!

3.  He loves Guitar Hero which as I believe is a PS2 game.  He doesn't hate Sony.  He hates how they have royal screwed up a very important launch.


3195  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bill Harris, WE GET IT - you hate Sony (Dubious Quality) on: November 29, 2006, 03:33:57 AM

Quote from: Kobra on November 28, 2006, 01:21:42 PM

Indeed, at least some people can ADMIT something they hyped turned out to be shit.  Other people, just try to sweep it aside and hope people will forget they aren't Sylvia Brown.


You are a person of strong opinions and since may sites have blogs for free I look forward to seeing a link to your better blog.  I would try www.blog.com or you could use Blogger.com so you can be on the same site as Bill. 

3196  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next batch of Wiis? on: November 28, 2006, 06:54:23 PM
I hate you.   icon_wink

3197  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Bill O'Really says "Gamers are morons and doomed to a life of poverty". on: November 27, 2006, 11:48:32 PM
Lets stop this before it gets ugly...uglier. 
3198  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Search... on: November 26, 2006, 06:59:15 PM

Quote from: Misguided on November 26, 2006, 05:23:09 PM

Quote from: farley2k on November 26, 2006, 04:54:42 PM

I would say it was a fluke but all the console releases (except the game cube) have been this way since the PS2.  I think companies saw the big lines for the PS2 and decided that it was a good business model to create artificial scarcity. 

They are supposedly on track to ship 4 million worldwide by the end of December. How is that creating artficial scarcity?


If they ship 4 million it isn't.  Only time will tell if they meet that.


I do know that there were 50+ people lined up outside Best Buy at 4AM this morning.  I don't consider that meeting demand.
3199  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii Search... on: November 26, 2006, 04:54:42 PM
I put this on my Christmas list so unless a mother in law can find one I won't be getting one this holiday season - that means no camping out, no hounding employees to find out when the next shipment is in, etc. 

Why is it so hard for companies to make enough to satisfy demand?


I would say it was a fluke but all the console releases (except the game cube) have been this way since the PS2.  I think companies saw the big lines for the PS2 and decided that it was a good business model to create artificial scarcity. 
3200  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: FF3: Levels and Job Levels on: November 24, 2006, 08:44:56 PM
So I read that...and I still don't have a clue what is going on!


My question is - are certain jobs opened up only after I reach certain job levels in other jobs?  Of example does "ninja" only open up after so many monk and thief job levels?  Or does "summoner" only open up after a certain number of white, red, and black mage job levels.

And do certain abilities only open up after certain job levels?  It seems like a jobs profession has all the abilities right at the start but I thought maybe some stuff only opens up after you get enough job levels.

I am not terribly concerned about how jp works on calculations for damage...I just want to play around with the jobs.


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