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2921  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 17, 2004, 01:55:52 AM
Quote from: "Mystic95Z"


When you installed it did you happen to deselect CS: Source?? If so there is a known problem in the retail non collectors edition install that causes an install error if CS: Source isn't selected.


-Tony


You are completly correct.  I was trying to install without the Counterstrike: source.  

Probably my fault for thinking I could install what I wanted.  I should simply have accepted whatever was thrown at me.


Is City 17 actually run by Valve?  They seem to have a similar attitude to giving people what they want. :roll:
2922  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [hl2]New complaint - why do I need the cd in the drive?! on: November 17, 2004, 01:45:38 AM
I am coping....I am also going to install a no-cd crack the momement it is released.
2923  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [hl2]New complaint - why do I need the cd in the drive?! on: November 17, 2004, 01:29:59 AM
Grrr that is really annoying.  Suposedly I have the same content on my HD as those who bought HL2 so why do I need to have the cd in the drive?

I hate that kind of crap.  I hate cd swaping etc.  

And before anyone tells me it is my own fault for buying the game - at no point did any thread or FAQ I saw mention that it was also using securom!  I knew I needed an interenet connection.  I knew I would have to unplug to play offline, etc.  I accept those things.

But why the hell did they also use securom!!!!!
2924  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / real simple: How do I play Half-life 2 w/o steam??? on: November 17, 2004, 01:25:56 AM
Check some other threads.  I believe you will find one that details how to play offline.  It is an annoying process.
2925  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 17, 2004, 01:24:07 AM
Quote from: "Rage"
Wow you guys deserve a whole wheel of cheese with that whine. The game worked fine for a huge number of people. For some it didn't, for some its taking a long time. The box says internet connection required to play. You knew what the activation scheme was. It is a shame some of you are still struggling, and for the future I am sure they will improve upon this, but this may well be the future of game distribution as we know it-I would like to give it a chance-but we knew from posts in the past few days that some of you were never prepared to give it a try.

Edited out my bad language-tired.


Well I for one was more than willing to give it a try.  I feel it sucked.  It took twice as long to get working as any normal game (even without my cd read errors) and I see no benefit.

For all the talk about how it will stop piates I will eat my keyboard if it isn't hacked by the weekend.

It is a money making scheme by Valve...fine but it seems to be hurting legitimate consumers just like the copy protection methods used by so many games.
2926  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half-Life 2 Impressions (Possible Spoilers) on: November 17, 2004, 01:18:34 AM
My biggest impression so far - how many freaking loads can they have per area?  Holy cow.  So far it seems a lot worse to me than any game I can think of in recent memory.  I am actually pretty shocked with the shear number of loads.  


I think I will enjoy the game but I am really starting to sense a "Black and White" type situation.  Early hype is "Oh it is the second coming!" then a few weeks later actual reviews come out and start pointing out the flaws.

Not to say the game isn't great but I see some flaws already.
2927  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 17, 2004, 01:11:33 AM
Well I finally got in.  It takes forever if you are lucky enough to get it to work.

What a stupid, stupid way to do this.
2928  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 11:51:08 PM
My anger is slowly dying.  I am getting there, but man is it slow.

I will decide soon how pissed to be.

I got a message that my cd-key couldn't be verified or some such because the servers are too busy, but that I could still play Half-Life 2 retail....now it is unlocking the files.  If that is true and I can still play I will be fine but if I can't play I think it goes back.
2929  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half-Life 2 Impressions (Possible Spoilers) on: November 16, 2004, 11:48:18 PM
Quote from: "Gryndyl"
Well, it seems that Steam's authentication stinks but that the game is very good.  Yes, they certainly should have been better prepared for this.  I'm glad I waited up last night and authenticated then-I never turn my computer off and always just leave steam up and going so I'm not going to have to deal with the log-in server when I get home


I think that is a fair assesment.

What confuses me is this isn't the first time their have been hints that Steam has problems.  I remember when it first was put out and people bitched.  The optimistic said "oh it is just beta! It will be so much better when it is fully released" etc.  That doesn't appear to have been the case.
2930  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half-Life 2 Impressions (Possible Spoilers) on: November 16, 2004, 11:43:46 PM
Quote from: "mikeg"
I have tried for the last 1/2 hour to create a steam account so that I can play this game and every time I try I get this 900 character message saying connection reset, winsock error xxxxxxxxx etc etc etc etc etc etc.  

Yeah, this game rocks.  : (


I got that as well the first couple times.

I thought maybe it was becuase the answer to my secret question was "fuck you valve"  (I really hope I get to call them sometime and answer that question)
2931  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 11:38:48 PM
Quote from: "farley2k"
Quote from: "Animus"
Farley, are you installing Counterstrike too?


On my 3rd attempt - yes I am.  If that works I will amazed.  It gives an error that "hl2.ico" couldn't be found in a cab file when it does crash so I don't think it has anything to do with what I have chosen to install but what the heck.  It is easier and faster than running to Target to return the game.




I don't know if it was letting it install Counterstrike or installing from the Alcohol images but I finally got it installed....now I just wait for Steam.
2932  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 11:37:42 PM
Quote from: "leo8877"
Hey guys, the work day is almost over here is California.  Are people still having trouble with authentication?  Is there a chance that I'll be able to play this game tonight?

Also, with 5 discs, how long is the damn install?


The install is actually fairly quick but I bet it depends on your CD-ROM speed because I think it is just basically copying the files from the CD to your HD.  


Now as for logging in....well it is still down as far as I can tell or at least really , really slow.
2933  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 11:26:40 PM
Quote from: "Interloper"
Haha.  Gotta love this little blurb from valves website concerning Steam:

Quote
Steam consumers enjoy the benefit of starting their favorite applications within minutes of confirming their purchase.


They forgot to put the little asterisk and the fine print explaining that it doesn't apply on the day of purchase due to their complete lack of foresight and ineptitude.

Someone should be fired over this mess.


I am sure it will be the same person fired over the botched "sept 30th 2003" release date, or the lack of security that allowed code to be stolen - meaning no one.
2934  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 11:25:11 PM
Quote from: "Animus"
Farley, are you installing Counterstrike too?


On my 3rd attempt - yes I am.  If that works I will amazed.  It gives an error that "hl2.ico" couldn't be found in a cab file when it does crash so I don't think it has anything to do with what I have chosen to install but what the heck.  It is easier and faster than running to Target to return the game.
2935  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 11:15:29 PM
Quote from: "Sparhawk"
I think the problem isn't with the technology but how many servers they have and the amount of bandwidth available to them. If they had more resources at launch I think it would have gone off more smoothly. As it is though, we're screwed until more people are done unlocking the game. I wonder how many dialup folks are using steam right now; those people need to be logging off.


So forcing legal owners who have dial up off is somehow a good solution?


This is purely and completly Valve's fault.  With the unlocking and the early release you might have been able to blame VU or Best Buy but  this is all Valve's baby.
2936  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 11:13:09 PM
Well I am currently making images with Alcohol 120% because the fucking install craps out on the 4th disk every time!  

I don't know if this will fix it but at least it will fail faster if I don't have to keep putting in the different disks!


Looks like I might get to run back to Target to return this POS!  I swear if they have Vampire out I won't be playing Valve's "masterpiece"



And this is before I even get to the joy of Steam!  Wonderful.  I have a whole night of joy to look forward to!
2937  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 10:55:23 PM
Since my copy crapped out on the 4th fucking disk just now I think I will keep posing my hate in this thread !

 :twisted:  :evil:  :twisted:  :evil:  :twisted:  :evil:  :twisted:  :evil:  :twisted:

POS.  

I am sure that if this problem becomes a known one Valve will nicely put out a message on their server saying that it was all VUs fault and that Valve didn't have anything to do with the production of the game.
2938  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / WHERE R TEH PIRAETD COPEIS OF HALF-LIEF 2?????!? OMG WTF on: November 16, 2004, 10:46:43 PM
Quote from: "SpaceLord"


Ah, right. What I *meant* was, the upcoming-hopefully-cool-mods-played-online-like-Team-Fortress-2-types-or-Day-of-Defeat will be hard to warez/hack.


Yes that is very true.  

I think most hard core pirates though know that on-line play is something they have to live without (much like dating smile )
2939  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 10:44:21 PM
Serioulsy rather than being a saving grace of PC gaming which some people have seen Steam as I see it as just another nail in the coffin of PC games.

Like the average gamer is going to put up with this shit?  LOL.  Just anotther way that PC gaming alienates gamers.  Make games buggier, make manuals smaller, make boxes smaller, and now to add to the list - make it not just harder but impossible to play the game!  

Yeah this industry is just about to take off!!!
2940  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 10:39:36 PM
Quote from: "Jeff Jones"
This is nothing more than the same "outrage" that takes place with virtually every MMORPG that's ever launched.  People bought the game, and OMFG THEY CAN"T PLAY IT BECAUSE THE SERVER WON"T WORK WTF OMG!

then 3 hours later, it does, and everyone plays.

*shrug*


Probably true.  But as someone who only plays single player games I am saddened by the fact that the same crap is now forced down my throat.
2941  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 10:36:11 PM
Quote from: "olaf"
Yeah I would be pissed, and you have every right to be.  But hey we already take plenty of shit from publishers and retailers, why not shit from developers too?

olaf


Oh no....this new model will make it so much better.  Those evil lying publishers will never be able to make customer suffer again...


Same shit, different people.
2942  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: "Ascendent"
Yes Steam has been around for a while but I can bet its never been hammered like this before. Besides the only games on steam were the CS games nothing as vast as HL2.

Ascendent


And of course this is our fault, just like it is our fault if Starforce doesn't work, or Safedisc, etc.


And people wonder why hackers are so common...
2943  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2 Offline Mode -* First Post Edit *- on: November 16, 2004, 08:39:08 PM
Quote from: "Ascendent"
I know its a pain in the ass. I'm sorry you aren't able to play right now. But this is brand new to them and I'm sure they didn't expect it to be that bad. They should of known? Maybe but this is new and with all things new there's going to be a few bumps. You will get to play your shiny copy of HL2 soon I'm sure just be patient.

Ascendent


Why should I be patient?  They created a system to make themselves more money (by not using VU for distribution) and now the consumer is getting screwed out of playing a game they legally bought.
2944  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / WHERE R TEH PIRAETD COPEIS OF HALF-LIEF 2?????!? OMG WTF on: November 16, 2004, 06:32:16 PM
Quote from: "SpaceLord"
Does it seem to everyone else that since Valve can pretty much change the game around any way they want, at any time, that hacked versions would quick working as fast as Valve decided?

(I'm not a coder, I am a "network guy") biggrin


No.  Remember HL2 has no MP it is single player only so pirates can have the hacked working version of HL2 and not worry about what Valve does.  

I will say that if my SP version of HL2 requires that I connect all the time because Valve decided to make some tweak I will be very, very pissed.
2945  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [Review Discussion] Vampire The Masquerade - Bloodlines on: November 16, 2004, 02:53:45 PM
Due to Troika's history with huge freaking bugs I think it is fair to ask....did you encounter any?  

I love their games but until someone specifically addresses this issue I will wait for user/player reviews.
2946  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2: Steam vs Retail on: November 15, 2004, 08:57:39 PM
Another reason at this point....how long does it take all 5 gigs to download?

Will it be done on my connection by tomorrow when I could buy it in the store and play it or will I be waiting days and days for it to finish downloading before I can play?
2947  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / HL2: Steam vs Retail on: November 15, 2004, 06:41:41 PM
Quote from: "Hetz"
Getting the reatil makes no sense to me at all. There is no manual and unless you really love boxes, it just seems like a huge waste of money.

You get all the Steam backcatalog and the exclusive DoD: Source with the Steam package. You also get to stick it to their lame ass publisher and support Valve 100%...

It's a no brainer.



Well I have a brain and I am buying retail.  smile

Why?  I am a game seller.  After I finish the SP of HL2 I intend to sell it to some other lucky soul so I really can't buy the on-line version.
2948  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Vivendi blocks HL2 unlocks on: November 14, 2004, 10:41:11 PM
1. Alll you have is a quote by Valve about what VU won't do - and considering the crap these two have thrown at each other I wouldn't trust either of them


2. Lets say they are blocking it because that is what was legally agreed to....that is their right.  Why the hell would they want to allow it to be released early when all stores are not selling it yet?

Look at my situation for example - no stores around me have broken the date so if VU let it be released I still couldn't play...unless I bought through Steam!  Which doesn't make any money for VU....so why would they want that?




If people should be mad at anyone it should be Best Buy since they are the only ones who actually acted in violation of their contracts.  They were not suposed to sell until the 16th and the sold early - this is totally their fault.
2949  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / I have Half-Life 2 in my hand on: November 14, 2004, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: "Tony"
Quote from: "Ranulf"
Quote from: "Tony"


The box says, "Internet Connection Required."


Yeah, so? Thats pretty vague. Its not like it actually says on the outside of the box: "YOU CAN NOT PLAY THE GAME UNTIL 11/16/04 when we turn on the authorization servers".

Valve is worried about being sued further, I think they still have a lawsuit against sierra/VU going, if BB broke the date Valve/VU can sue them for breach of contract or Valve could sue VU for breach if it was stated that steam/retail sales' activiation doesn't start until 11/16.


Actually, if you look a little further down on the box, it says, "You Can Not Play the Game Until 11/16/04, and if you get this game before then, it's Vivendi's fault you bitches!"



LOL!  Now that would be a clearly written disclaimer.
2950  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: OK I GIVE! IM OVERLOADED on: November 13, 2004, 01:00:48 AM
Quote from: "HankRaptor"
Am I alone here? or has this been the best year for gaming EVER?

1. Burnout 3
2. Halo 2
3. GTA: SA
4. RandC UYA
5. JAK 3
6. MGS: SNAKE EATER
7. METROID PRIME 2
8. HALF LIFE 2
9. Katamari Damacy


All of these games will/have been released in the last quarter... quite a time to be a gamer.

When Im ignoring many releases... I know I have too much...
[/list]




I got overloaded this week with Halo 2.  I still have a ton of games waiting and now I just have more....and Half-Life 2 is waiting for me next week.

I am just hoping there is the typical winter lul in Feb, March, and April.  I can catch up then.
2951  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / LotR: The Third Age...anyone played it? on: November 12, 2004, 06:38:09 PM
You can check out this thread

or

this two page thread  about the game.
2952  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Microsoft to release three versions of Xbox 2 on: November 12, 2004, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: "HankRaptor"
Quote

Tebunker says.
 
I'm not so bothered by the 3 versions as I am by the Autumn 2005 lauch frame. 4 years is too short a lifespan for one generation of hardware. I know some of you PC die-hards will laugh at that, but I want 5 to 6 years out of my consoles.

I think that coming out first can have a very big Dreamcast-like effect on the XBox-next and having multiple versions would hurt even more.

 
 


SIX YEARS?????? Thats a bit extreme is it not? Technology has increased 10 fold in that time.

I buy a new PC JUST ABOUT every 3 years. I went from a p3 500- p4- 3 mhz.. that is an increase 6x if you wait 6 years its 12x.. do 10x is FAIR..

Ill give you 4 years and phased out by 5 but 6????




I think that is the reason people get into consoles (or one of them).  The cost of continual upgrades isn't worth it.  They like the idea of buying one piece of hardware and not having to think about upgrades.  Now MS seems to be shooting that down as a stratagy.
2953  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half Life 2 released in Savannah Georgia on: November 11, 2004, 09:49:25 PM
Quote from: "msduncan"



Also: someone over on OO forums are reporting that they've found reports of people getting the game early but can't play it due to the Steam lock.... so you must be right LordEbonstone!



So what is the point in having a "launch" day when stores can sell the game?  Just sell the game but don't let people play! smile  Bet that wouldn't piss off consumers very much.....
2954  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: No Movie for you! on: November 11, 2004, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: "whispa"
ABC pulls "Saving Private Ryan" to avoid complaints

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/11/movie.canceled.ap/index.html


Thanks Janet!


LOL!  I love it.  


This is the "moral values" kind of thing people want.  They voted for it and now they get it.
2955  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Microsoft to release three versions of Xbox 2 on: November 11, 2004, 06:49:33 PM
It seems dumb to me on the surface.

No new Xbox "Next" games will use the HD if it isn't standard on all Xboxes.  Why would you put extra development dollars into something that only a part of your users could use?  For example look at DVDs for game releases.  Companies don't bother because they see no value in doing so.  They put out a game on CD and people with cd drives - and DVD drives can use it.   Same with the HD on the Xbox 2.  If you make your game work without it then everyone can use it.

The whol 3rd option of a basic PC.....the reason people buy consoles is to get away from having to figure out a PC.  Have the web TV units done well?  People don't want a PC on their TV particularly.


All this does is create confusion and the best thing about consoles (well it used to be) was simlicity.  You plugged it in and worked with all games for that console.   Now you plug it in and....well if you have the Xbox HD it will work but not if you have the basic one, or you put in the game and it will work on your basic one but with lots of cool features disabled.
2956  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Edit: Make me want an Xbox - and tell me what I should know on: November 10, 2004, 03:31:46 AM
Ummmm.....its big.....

What I am looking forward to

Halo 2.  Yeah well what can I say?  It just is so great.

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 (yeah it will be out for the PC in a few months but I actually think it played better on the Xbox.  The controls were just...suited to the Xbox)

Jade Empire.  Don't know if it is coming fo the PC but who could wait?


Not an overwhelming number of them but they are each worth thier wait in gold to me.


I am sure there are fan boys who can list every game for the next year but that is my list
2957  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Gamestop - Wow on: November 10, 2004, 03:04:30 AM
And I thought I figured it out becuase Evil Avatar is reporting that TGamespot told the street date of the Nintendo DS


I guess I am not Sherlock Holmes
2958  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Gamestop - Wow on: November 10, 2004, 02:36:27 AM
I feel like I am looking at one of those stupid 3d images thing...where everyone looks at it and says "oh, a boat!" and I can't see squat...
2959  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines Hands-On Preview on: November 09, 2004, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: "Rage"
Hey Ron!!!

Is this still looking like an 11/15 release?


According to Bluesnews it will be released on the 16th as well as HL2

Quote
Santa Monica, CA – November 9, 2004 – The bloodletting begins on November 16, 2004 with the shipping of Activision, Inc.’s (Nasdaq: ATVI) Vampire®: The Masquerade – Bloodlines™ for the PC.

An all-new RPG adventure, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines is filled with rich character development, an intriguing storyline set in White Wolf’s World of Darkness®, and mind-blowing graphics powered by Source™ - Valve’s next generation engine technology. It will take a vicious array of vampire disciplines and a healthy penchant for blood, for players to survive the dark and gritty undying world of modern day L.A. Selecting from one of seven clans, gamers will interact with other characters, decide with whom to ally themselves, and watch as darkness takes over their soul while a mysterious plot unfolds.
2960  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Official Half-Life 2 Time of Release!!! on: November 08, 2004, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: "Valael"
I don't think releasing it 3 hours earlier is going to make any difference.  The people that actually line up for a midnight sale are the people that are so hardcore, they're going to get it anyways.



I guess I assume that marketing has some clue on how to generate more sales, they might actually be able to show that having these midnight sales works....

Unless you just assume that every store that does a midnight maddness sale is stupid.  They do it for music, games, and movies so I believe by now they would have data to show if it is profitable.
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