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2921  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Inglorious Bastards on: February 11, 2009, 09:55:06 PM
I think it looks like the stupidest film ever.  It seems like just a stupid, stupid story to allow Tarantino to do violent things but not have the audience care because those Nazi's deserve it.  Just a waste of film
2922  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: February 11, 2009, 06:23:13 PM
2923  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resident Evil 5 demo coming 26th on: February 11, 2009, 05:20:50 PM
Lets be honest.  The real real reason there is a stink over RE5 and not FC2 is that RE5 is a much bigger franchise.  It gets a lot more attention, a lot.


2924  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Resident Evil 5 demo coming 26th on: February 11, 2009, 02:26:53 PM
I think Bill Harris summed it up nicely awhile ago  His comments were about the trailer but I think the same stuff applies for the demo


Long quote -
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So there are two questions to consider, really: first, what about the people making these comments, and second, is the trailer really racist?

I want to tread lightly here, because this is such a sensitive topic, so let me come up with a descriptive (but not offensive) term to refer to the people who made those comments:
ignorant dickheads.

I'd be more worried about those people, but they'll all starve to death soon, because they're too stupid to find food.

Now that we've got that out of the way, let's move on to the trailer. What was N'Gai referring to when when he mentioned "classic racist imagery?"

He was talking about The Brute.

The Brute caricature was created in the U.S. in the post-slavery era, and it portrayed every black man as a dangerous animal--dangerous because he was no longer controlled by slavery. I'm going to warn you, the following passage is very painful to read, but it's important, so I'm quoting it at length:
The brute caricature portrays Black men as innately savage, animalistic, destructive, and criminal -- deserving punishment, maybe death. This brute is a fiend, a sociopath, an anti-social menace. Black brutes are depicted as hideous, terrifying predators who target helpless victims, especially White women. Charles H. Smith, a writer at the end of the 1890s, claimed, "A bad negro is the most horrible creature upon the earth, the most brutal and merciless."1 Clifton R. Breckinridge, a contemporary of Smith's, said of the Black race, "when it produces a brute, he is the worst and most insatiate brute that exists in human form."2 George T. Winston, another "Negrophobic" writer, claimed:
"When a knock is heard at the door [a White woman] shudders with nameless horror. The black brute is lurking in the dark, a monstrous beast, crazed with lust. His ferocity is almost demoniacal. A mad bull or tiger could scarcely be more brutal. A whole community is frenzied with horror, with the blind and furious rage for vengeance."

During slavery the dominant caricatures of Blacks -- Mammy, Coon, Tom, and picaninny-- portrayed them as childlike, ignorant, docile, groveling, and, in general, harmless. These portrayals were pragmatic and instrumental. Proponents of slavery created and promoted Black images that justified slavery and soothed White consciences. If slaves were childlike, for example, then a paternalistic institution where masters acted as quasi-parents to their slaves was humane, even morally right. More importantly, slaves were rarely depicted as brutes because that portrayal might have become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

During the Radical Reconstruction period (1867-1877), many White writers argued that without slavery -- which supposedly suppressed their animalistic tendencies -- Blacks were reverting to criminal savagery. The belief that the newly-emancipated Blacks were a "black peril" continued into the early 1900s. Writers like the novelist Thomas Nelson Page lamented that the slavery-era "good old darkies" had been replaced by the "new issue" (Blacks born after slavery) whom he described as "lazy, thriftless, intemperate, insolent, dishonest, and without the most rudimentary elements of morality." Page, who helped popularize the images of cheerful and devoted Mammies and Sambos in his early books, became one of the first writers to introduce a literary Black brute. In 1898 he published Red Rock, a Reconstruction novel, with the heinous figure of Moses, a loathsome and sinister Black politician. Moses tried to rape a White woman: "He gave a snarl of rage and sprang at her like a wild beast." He was later lynched for "a terrible crime."

The "terrible crime" most often mentioned in connection with the Black brute was rape, more specifically, the rape of a White woman. At the beginning of the twentieth century, much of the virulent, anti-Black propaganda that found its way into scientific journals, local newspapers, and best-selling novels focused on the stereotype of the Black rapist. The claim that Black brutes were, in epidemic numbers, raping White women became the public rationalization for the lynching of Blacks.

The lynching of Blacks was relatively common between Reconstruction and World War II. According to Tuskegee Institute data, between the years 1882 and 1951, 4,730 people were lynched in the United States: 3,437 Black and 1,293 White.7 Many of the White lynching victims were foreigners or belonged to oppressed groups, for example, Mormons, Shakers, and Catholics. By the early 1900s lynching had a decidedly racial character, that is, White mobs lynched Blacks. Almost 90 percent of all the lynchings of Blacks occurred in Southern or border states.

Many of these victims were ritualistically tortured. In 1904, Luther Holbert and his wife were burned to death. They were "tied to trees and while the funeral pyres were being prepared, they were forced to hold out their hands while one finger at a time was chopped off. The fingers were distributed as souvenirs. The ears...were cut off. Holbert was beaten severely, his skull fractured and one of his eyes, knocked out with a stick, hung by a shred from the socket." Members of the mob then speared the victims with a large corkscrew, "the spirals tearing out big pieces of...flesh every time it was withdrawn."

A mob lynching was a brutal and savage event, and it necessitated that the lynching victim be seen as equally brutal and savage; as these lynchings became more common and more brutal, so did the assassination of the Black character. In 1900, Charles Carroll's The Negro A Beast claimed that Blacks were more akin to apes than to human beings, and theorized that Blacks had been the "tempters of Eve." Carroll said that mulatto brutes were the rapists and murderers of his time. Dr. William Howard, writing in the respectable journal Medicine in 1903, claimed that "the attacks on defenseless White women are evidence of racial instincts" (in Blacks), and the Black birthright was "sexual madness and excess." Thomas Dixon's, The Leopard's Spots, a 1902 novel, claimed that emancipation had transformed Blacks from "a chattel to be bought and sold into a beast to be feared and guarded."

In 1905 Dixon published his most popular novel, The Clansman. In this book he described Blacks as "half child, half animal, the sport of impulse, whim, and conceit...a being who, left to his will, roams at night and sleeps in the day, whose speech knows no word of love, whose passions, once aroused, are as the fury of the tiger."13 The Clansman includes a detailed and gory account of the rape of a young White virgin by a Black brute. "A single tiger springs, and the black claws of the beast sank into the soft white throat." After the rape, the girl and her mother both commit suicide, and the Black brute is lynched by the Ku Klux Klan. This book served as the basis for the movie The Birth of a Nation (which also portrayed some Blacks as rapist-beasts), justified the lynching of Blacks, and gloried the Ku Klux Klan. Carroll, Howard, and Dixon did not exceed the prevailing racism of the so-called Progressive Era.

Beasts. Brutes. The black peril. Black devils.

That's what N'Gai was talking about when he spoke of "classic racist imagery"--the notion that black people represent a lurking evil that lives just below the surface.




2925  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Any other interesting RPG:s on the horizon? on: February 09, 2009, 08:14:59 PM

Quote from: jersoc on February 09, 2009, 08:12:26 PM

it's the principle of the matter. why censor anything at all? it's rated M. It's not our fault the stores aren't doing their job and selling whatever ratings to anyone. We're adults, we shouldn't be subjected to teen rating crap because of that. You do know the average gaming age is like 30, right? That's why I got the UK version. If i'm going to pay full price I'm getting the whole game. Not some stupid by product of our over protective gov't stepping over the freedom of press and expression.

Blood doesn't make a game either, but I sure as bet more people bitch about that when it gets censored. It simply adds to the game and the world in the game.

I agree but it isn't these companies we need to be annoyed at but society.  The company only is out to make money.  Society places restrictions which makes it more profitable to censor the game. 


2926  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: FS: Prince of Persia and/or Fallout 3 (360) on: February 08, 2009, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Kagath on February 07, 2009, 04:29:30 AM

Is the guide the Collector's Edition or regular?

Collector's Edition.
2927  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / FS: Prince of Persia and/or Fallout 3 (360) on: February 06, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
$35 shipped for PoP

(SOLD) $45 shipped for Fallout 3 with the Prima strategy guide - $35 without.  The strategy guide is pretty incredible though.

Great games hope someone else can enjoy them as much as I did.

PM me if your interested.
2928  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Escapist: Zero Punctuation on: February 05, 2009, 09:28:32 PM
One of the least funny ones I have seen him do.


2929  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: New Watchmen Trailer on: February 05, 2009, 07:22:56 PM
I can't wait for this to come out!  So that people can shut up about it!  Jesus, every time the director farts there are news stories on blogs, posts in forums, etc.  Is this the only comic book movie coming out this decade?  Why is every detail about any part of it news?
2930  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Age is looking good! on: February 04, 2009, 06:12:02 PM

Quote from: morlac on February 04, 2009, 05:08:16 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on February 04, 2009, 12:51:57 AM

As disappointing as the move is, it does make a lot of sense from the marketing angle- better to focus in the advertising in one two-three month period for all platforms instead of doing it now then turning around and doing it again at the end of the year.

But, yeah, I can't help but think this pretty much nixes any chance of ME2 hitting this holiday season.

Ok but if the shoe was reversed would they hold the console version while they finished up the pc one? 

No, of course not. 

Unfortunately this is the real world and consoles sell more.  That is just a fact.  EA wants to, heck needs to make money so they have to do what is going to make them the most money. 
2931  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Age is looking good! on: February 03, 2009, 10:25:51 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on February 03, 2009, 09:45:47 PM

Delayed until the second half of the year:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/090203/20090203006283.html?.v=1

Gee a holiday timeframe release.  Go figure. 
2932  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Should I buy Carcassonne on XBL or the real board game for home play on: February 02, 2009, 10:16:46 PM

Quote from: Chaz on February 02, 2009, 10:13:43 PM

Both Carc and Lost Cities are very girlfriend/wife friendly.  Easy to pick up on, and quick to play. 
What are good hooker/blowup doll friendly games? smile





2933  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Should I buy Carcassonne on XBL or the real board game for home play on: February 02, 2009, 10:00:43 PM

Quote from: coopasonic on February 02, 2009, 09:57:13 PM

Find a board game geek in your area.

I shall start my search of the sanitariums,  seedy bars, brothels, and free wi-fi hotspots today! smile 

Just kidding, we all know board game geeks don't leave their mom's basement except to get Mt. Dew.  I should just put a post-it on the Mt. Dew display at WalMart.
2934  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Should I buy Carcassonne on XBL or the real board game for home play on: February 02, 2009, 09:43:32 PM
I may have to go with the board version.  She often talks about how we should do more together and I bet she wouldn't count sitting in front of the TV, no matter what we were playing together.

Anyone selling their physical copy now that they are hooked on the the Xbox version?
2935  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Should I buy Carcassonne on XBL or the real board game for home play on: February 02, 2009, 09:40:51 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on February 02, 2009, 09:31:42 PM

Quote from: farley2k on February 02, 2009, 09:11:10 PM

I would like to play this with the wife so I was thinking of getting the board game but I noticed that the XBL version allowed for " Local Multiplayer 1-4" and it is only 800 points which is cheaper than the actual board game.  However my wife is not much of a video gamer.  I think it might be hard to get her interested in staring at the TV screen.

How is the local multiplayer?  Is it worth getting the real board game for the tactile feel of the board, cards, etc.?


If you're primarily going to be playing local multiplayer with someone who's not particularly into console gaming, definitely get the real version of the game unless the $10 difference will be rough on your budget.  Of course, if the hard times are hitting you that bad you're probably better off making the edible version so that it'll provide more nutrition:


Anyway, the real version is really nice.  There's no board, since you build the map by placing tiles, but the tiles are nice thick cardstock and the follower pieces are made of wood.

That would be great!  I get her hooked on the game, she balloons up and then blames me for making her fat!  I have been married long enough to see that trap coming.  smile
2936  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Should I buy Carcassonne on XBL or the real board game for home play on: February 02, 2009, 09:23:33 PM
Yeah we have the board version of Ticket to Ride and I can't imagine it working with two or more people sharing the TV. 
2937  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Should I buy Carcassonne on XBL or the real board game for home play on: February 02, 2009, 09:11:10 PM
I would like to play this with the wife so I was thinking of getting the board game but I noticed that the XBL version allowed for " Local Multiplayer 1-4" and it is only 800 points which is cheaper than the actual board game.  However my wife is not much of a video gamer.  I think it might be hard to get her interested in staring at the TV screen.

How is the local multiplayer?  Is it worth getting the real board game for the tactile feel of the board, cards, etc.?
2938  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: February 02, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
Somewhere a dial up user is beating their keyboard, cursing your names! 
2939  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: February 02, 2009, 03:39:57 PM
Why is the name of all that is good can't you people reply without including the image 3 times?! 
2940  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone play Eschalon: Book 1 ? on: February 02, 2009, 03:21:27 PM

Quote from: Arkon on February 02, 2009, 02:54:51 PM

Yeah I dug up my old receipt and sent an email to support about 2 hours ago and have not heard back.

Not sure what coast they are on so I wouldn't worry.

It shows you posting at 7:54:51 AM.  I imagine in if you sent me a request at 6AM I wouldn't respond very quickly either. smile


2941  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Anyone play Eschalon: Book 1 ? on: February 02, 2009, 02:54:09 PM

Quote from: Arkon on February 02, 2009, 02:01:50 PM

I need to replay this, I never was able to finish before.  Sadly my download link no longer works and my old hard drive that had this died.

Never fear!  If you email them they will send you a new download link.  I got mine about 10 minutes after I emailed them.  It was very easy.


2942  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: OO off line for a short time on: January 30, 2009, 03:38:41 PM
You adventurous types can ad the an entry for OO into your hosts file.  On WinXP it is located in c:\windows\system32\driver\etc  It is just called "hosts" no extension.  Edit it and add the line

Code:
98.175.67.242   www.octopusoverlords.com

Save file, exit and your bookmark should work. 
2943  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: I'm all for gov't agencies saving money, but this is ridiculous. on: January 30, 2009, 02:11:58 PM
So salaries remain the same and savings are from not running trucks, sorting machines, lights,  etc.? Or are they planning on forcing a pay cut on all postal employees? 
2944  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Patrick Swayze stops treatments on: January 29, 2009, 10:23:45 PM
I am so glad you didn't say the Roadhouse groaner "Pain don't hurt"

2945  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Name that movie on: January 29, 2009, 05:02:28 PM

Quote from: Simon on January 29, 2009, 04:53:17 PM

I think Pong's might be The Wackness.

I am 90% sure you are right but I don't have one to post so I am glad you will have to find one.
2946  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Patrick Swayze stops treatments on: January 29, 2009, 02:37:30 PM
He seems like a good person.  It is sad he got cancer.



2947  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Happy Holidays - I have a present for you... on: January 29, 2009, 02:34:26 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on January 29, 2009, 02:32:48 PM

Sadly, in recent news it's been announced that February 13th will be delayed indefinitely.  "Soon," is all we know at this point.

Cool!  Now I don't have to get a Valentine's Day present!
2948  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Windows 7 Beta on: January 29, 2009, 02:31:17 PM

Quote from: LoneStarSpur on January 29, 2009, 02:19:03 PM

I'm really thinking about doing this, but I loathe installing stuff...after 30 years of working on pc's I've had enough.

Quote
The Windows 7 Beta will stop working on August 1, 2009. To continue using your PC, please be prepared to reinstall a prior version of Windows or a subsequent release of Windows 7 before the expiration date. We recommend doing a custom (clean) installation.

So I would do it once, but not if I have to go back to Vista in August. What's the likelihood of there being a "subsequent release of Windows 7 before the expiration date"? Anyone have any ideas? I will buy W7 when it's released.

I would guess there is a 60-70% chance of a subsequent release.  There are a lot of people using Win7 beta so there will be more pressure than normal on MS to let people keep using it. 

I went ahead and did replaced my Vista install with Win7 and I love it.  Reinstalling the OS every six months doesn't bother me that much anyway.  I have finally given in to the MS way and store all my files in "My Documents" so I just need to move that folder over to a second HD, reinstall and move files back.  Sure I have to reinstall programs but that is pretty painless as long as I have my files.


2949  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fallout 3 -- DL content on: January 27, 2009, 06:33:29 PM
It also sends a message really.  It tells people that the PS3 version isn't as important/good/profitable.  Maybe it was MS money (although that wouldn't explain the PC update) maybe not but the message is pretty strong - if you don't have to, don't play it on the PS3. 


2950  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBox 360 Conundrum... on: January 26, 2009, 10:21:45 PM
Keep it.  Your unit will probably run for years.  MS also has been fixing the RRoD for free so what is the real risk, except being without the console for a few weeks?
2951  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What is it about KOTOR that I'm missing? on: January 23, 2009, 09:19:11 PM

Quote from: Eel Snave on January 23, 2009, 07:00:28 PM

In the "Favorite Games" thread, I see Knights Of The Old Republic an awful lot.  I'll be honest, I couldn't get into it at all.  I played for about four hours, expecting something to click, and nothing ever did.  What am I missing?

Some games just don't click for some people.  I thought the game was great fun to play.  I found the combat great fun, the story compelling, the graphics good, and the voice acting great. 

I don't think there is anything you are missing, it just doesn't click for you. 


2952  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Is this the final nail in the coffin for the 4th Ammendment? on: January 22, 2009, 07:11:24 PM
I don't have a huge problem with this.  Keep in mind all this says is that evidence is admissible in court, no one is saying people will be found guilty.

2953  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: [Steam] - Dawn of War Soulstorm $7.50 on: January 22, 2009, 07:08:48 PM
I don't think Steam runs on any consoles so off to PC land!


This topic has been moved to PC Gaming.

http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php?topic=31353.0


2954  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: The Escapist: Zero Punctuation on: January 21, 2009, 07:34:53 PM
Today he picks at Far Cry 2.  Not as funny as some reviews nor as mean so I think he must have liked the game. 

2955  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / MOVED: Mr. Pres First day in the office. on: January 21, 2009, 06:23:02 PM
This topic has been moved to Political / Religious Nonsense.

http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php?topic=31335.0
2956  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama Inauguration, please explain something to me. on: January 20, 2009, 06:15:10 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on January 20, 2009, 04:16:57 PM

And I will enjoy my day today, which will include not one minute of watching the inauguration.

Good for you!  I am sure you can proudly tell your kids and grandkids how you ignored everything about the day.  Perhaps you can describe some paperwork you did, or the dump you took on your afternoon break. 

Like him or not, like it or not, this is historic for the US.  No matter what he does as president he is the first African American president and that is something which will be remembered - except by you of course but be I am happy your are proud of your disregard for history.


2957  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [psp] yggdra union (just the facts) on: January 19, 2009, 02:23:55 PM
To each their own. 

I hated the GBA game.  It was complicated just for the sake of being complicated.  Many people like that challenge but I am not one of those.  I found the complexity of the game not so much overwhelming as unimportant.  It very much felt tacked on to make the game more complicated. 

I was also one of those people who hated all the leveling up inside items with the crazy geo thingies in Disgea too though.


2958  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Khan is Dead on: January 15, 2009, 03:17:50 AM

Quote from: Jeff on January 15, 2009, 02:29:49 AM

"de plane boss, de plane!"

"yes Tattoo, we have visitors"

I loved that show as a kid and watched it religiously.



I remember it was on after Love Boat!
2959  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tomb Raider Anniversary downloads for 360 on: January 15, 2009, 03:16:06 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on January 14, 2009, 09:19:21 PM

Legend is probably the closest to Uncharted and PoP. 

I'm assuming that you are referring to the latest PoP?  Did you play the three PoP games from last generation?  All are worth playing if you like this kind of gameplay (though SoT is the only one that is backwards compatible for the 360). 

I played them a bit but I tend to suck at these types of games and got frustrated easily. 


2960  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Tomb Raider Anniversary downloads for 360 on: January 14, 2009, 09:11:23 PM
I will see what I like.  I don't always like these types of games but I loved Uncharted and am loving Prince of Persia so I hope one of these three will satisfy my itch for more of that type of gameplay.  I just need to finish Prince of Persia!
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