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2721  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Best/Worst Game Rental Service? on: February 14, 2007, 09:46:39 PM
I think it is time to join a game rental service.

I am a sucker for new games but I am a slow gamer so it takes me a long time to finish games.  Couple that with a short attention span and I hardly ever finish a game. So I get a game based on hype, reviews, etc. play for a bit lose interest, get another game based on hype, play a bit .....round and round. Since I don't have a lot of money I tend to finance those new game purchases by trading in games I haven't even finished! However I often want to go back to games months later when there is a dry spell and I end up purchasing games again! 

This is not a good situation.  It seems like a rental service would be perfect.  I get new games, play them a bit, send them back with the forum effect pulls me to a new game, then I can get them again later if I get the yen.  For example I am having an urge to finish Resident Evil 4, but I traded it a long time ago.  If I had a membership to a rental service I would be able to just get it!  I still have my saved games after all so I wouldn't even have to start from scratch.

So, long explanation for simple question - have you used a game rental service and do you like them?  What ones are good, which are bad?  Oh, and who is the cheapest?
2722  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Favorite All Time Games on: February 14, 2007, 07:35:50 PM
Too hard - but here are some favorites I didn't see listed yet.

Tex Murphy - All of 'em!
Legend of Zelda - Wind Waker
Twinsen's Odyssey: Little Big Adventure
Tron 2.0
Half Life 2
The Journeyman Project 3: Legacy of Time

2723  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New for Xbox Live Arcade this week! YOU GUESSED IT! on: February 14, 2007, 04:48:56 PM
I think others have summed it up well. 

Any release date on Catan or Worms?
2724  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Level 5s first DS game on: February 13, 2007, 09:33:11 PM
An adventure game called "Professor Layton"  I can't read Japanesse but I love the look and I love Level 5.

2725  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: NSFW: God of War 2 sex minigame on: February 13, 2007, 02:39:32 PM

Quote from: ATB on February 13, 2007, 02:12:50 PM

That sex mini game was pretty stupid, but it was so brief that it has hardly detracted from the amazing game that GoW is.

If you thought the one in GoW was stupid I think you will be even more impressed with this one. 

It is kinda funny.  I can usually ignore how juvenile these games are and just have fun, but this mini game just ruins my suspension of disbelief.  Not belief in the game world, but the belief that this is aimed at anything but teen boys.

I mean come on

Spoiler for Hiden:
A peeing statue that "squirts" funny when Kratos is coming?  That is just so 12 year olds snickering that I can barely stand it.
2726  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / FS/FT: LoZ: TP (wii version), Yggdra Union (gba), Final Fantasy 5 (gba) on: February 10, 2007, 06:59:04 PM
I am looking for Final Fantasy 6 and Hotel Dusk : Room 251.  Since those are rather new I am also willing to sell any of the games I have.

ToZ:TP - $35.00
FF5 - $25
YU - $20

Or PM me offers.  I will consider anything.

2727  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PS3] Virtua Fighter 5 Impressions on: February 09, 2007, 09:09:48 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on February 08, 2007, 03:13:45 PM

I'm not exactly a fighting game expert but everything I've heard about is that the mechanics are far more precise in VF4 (don't know about Tekken) to survive *any* latency or lag through online play.  As Destructor said above, you are making reactions literally on the timing of one frame of animation.  If they went to the trouble of coding it (which requires a lot of extra time and resources), they would likely just have everyone bitching about broken it was. 

How many frames does someone stay in your sights in Unreal Tournament? 
2728  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: GT HT/Gaming Setups [56k Warning] on: February 09, 2007, 02:52:51 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on February 09, 2007, 01:53:27 PM

Quote from: Laner on February 09, 2007, 01:36:30 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on February 09, 2007, 12:24:23 PM

Ahhh, somebody else who bought the Dragon edition of Ultima 9. 
Ha ha - you wasted your money on a lame collector's edition

(so did I slywink )

Rounds out my collection of Ultima titles.  I should ebay the damned things while they are still worth something.

Is Ultima 9 really worth something?  If so I am headed over to ebay!
2729  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / [sold] 2 gig USB thumb drive on: February 08, 2007, 08:50:58 PM
I bought this off newegg for $20 but don't need it.  Between the restocking fee and the shipping it seems like I would be better of just selling it myself.

So new and unopen - $20 (includes shipping)

Here is the newegg link so you can see all the specs

PM me if interested.
2730  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wii going Mature... on: February 08, 2007, 08:20:12 PM

The fact that a game where you suffocate a person with a plastic bag on camera to improve ratings of a television show is considered "mature" may be a strong reason to actually see gaming as a very immature hobby.

Honestly when parents or co-workers ask about gaming do people say "Well it is really a mature hobby.  In Manhunter you stab people with jagged glass for a TV show!"

2731  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: awesome Stranglehold Podcast, and a free PS3 on: February 08, 2007, 07:39:14 PM
Welcome to the forums. 

2732  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / MOVED: CMT classwork help <--college help on: February 08, 2007, 07:04:34 PM
This topic has been moved to Hardware / Software Hell.
2733  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Tivo rolls out movie and TV show downloads! (woot?) on: February 07, 2007, 06:48:15 PM

Quote from: Kobra on February 07, 2007, 05:25:45 PM

Now this is what I am excited about!  Downloads on the PC are fine, but I want them on the TV.  $1.99 a rental?  Sign me up!

Sign me down! (or something clever)

I pay $10 a month for Netflix and I can get two a week if I time my shipping correctly, so it doesn't save me any money *and* they are using my bandwidth which I pay for to get the movies to me!  At least Netflix pays the shipping.
2734  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Zelda TP - not feeling the love (spoilers) on: February 07, 2007, 03:34:34 AM
Finally finished.  That ending was just....well dumb.  I think the silliest thing was that Minda becomes this busty baby...unlike all the other inhabitants of the twilight light realm. ??? Why? Doe the game really need sex appeal?

Anyway, unlike WW I am just happy to be done with TP. 

2735  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Liongames - buy/sell used/new games on: February 05, 2007, 05:39:08 PM
First of all let me say that I am not endorsing this site at all, I just have contact with the owner through GamersWithJobs and he seems honest.

Having said that I wanted to point people to Liongames as a place to buy/sell used games.  Places to buy new games are a dime a dozen but it is harder to find places to deal in used games on the Internet so I thought this might be a good resource for some people.

2736  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Mooninites 1, Boston 0 on: February 02, 2007, 01:53:39 PM
I just don't get this.  We are told time and time again that "we are at WAR!" The president is reelected on that platform, we invade other countries on that platform, we jail US citizens without trial or access to lawyers under that platform but if the city of Boston acts like we are at war they are laughing stocks? 

Tell me oh wise ones, when at "elevated" threat level what should a city government do when they get reports of several "devices" placed around the city with wires and batteries attached?  Seriously, what would you have them do? Ignore it? 

2737  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New DS system seller? on: February 01, 2007, 07:07:43 PM
I would love it - if they had a dummies version.  I have tried even the Monday puzzle and...well I am not up to the challenge.

2738  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Settlers of Catan (Live Arcade) screenshots on: January 31, 2007, 06:50:27 PM
So is this a Live game against others?  Will it have a ranking system so that those of us who suck won't get into a game with an experienced player?  Is there a SP version to learn the game?  Does it require Gold membership or only Silver? 
2739  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Vista Impressions/Gaming Issues on: January 30, 2007, 02:09:13 PM

Quote from: Hetz on January 30, 2007, 03:34:24 AM

For those of you with Vista Ultimate, there are now a couple "Ultimate Extras" now available from Windows Update. Texas Hold Em Poker and an enhancement to Bit Locker.

There are also a bunch of important and recomended updates up as well for all versions of Vista.

I am still not sure about Bit Locker.  According to one of MS's papers "BitLocker Drive Encryption is an integral new security feature in the Windows Vista operating system that provides considerable protection for the operating system on your computer and data stored on the operating system volume."   Well if it is integral why is it only in "Ultimate?" 

2740  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Zelda TP - not feeling the love (spoilers) on: January 30, 2007, 01:57:06 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on January 30, 2007, 01:34:22 PM

Quote from: Space Herpes on January 30, 2007, 05:40:11 AM

I've been enjoying the experience.  It's my first Zelda game, so it's all new to me. 

Spoiler for Hiden:
I am having troubles with the Sky Dragon.  I can knock it's armor off easily.  I can swing up to the sky. As I'm swinging from propeller things, it always knocks me off with fire.  I figured I'm supposed to get behind it to get the eye (like on the big fish), but I just can't get behind the thing.  Any advice?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Just make sure you are swinging from one platform to another continuously.  You should outrun his breath attack.  Once he's out of breath he'll pause for a few moments which will be enough time for you to get behind him and latch onto him.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Use Z lock to make targeting the next flying thing easy.  Also keep the z lock pushed down.  Releasing and hitting it again causes the lock to switch sides.  So climb to the first one, hit Z and Link will target the next one, hit B (keep Z down!) and Link will go to the next one, hit B again, and Link will go to the next one...  You don't have to get behind the dragon really, just wait until he stops breathing fire, then target his back and you will clawshot over to him.  Per usual you do that 2 times and he will modify his attack slightly (but I bet by that point you can figure out what to do) and then one more time and he is done!
2741  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: God of War 2 Trailer on: January 30, 2007, 12:29:45 AM
Stuff like this makes me think Sony could have "won" this holiday season by just keeping the PS2 as the star. God of War, Rogue Galaxy, Guitar Hero 2, Okami, Final Fantasy 12 - many of the best games of the last year have been on the PS2.  Had they really pushed the PS2 I think they would have cleaned up on holiday sales.  Then they could have put out the PS3 next year and had an extra year to lower the costs.

2742  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Zelda TP - not feeling the love (spoilers) on: January 29, 2007, 08:04:22 PM
I am 45 hours into it and it is becoming really dull.  I just finished the sky dungeon so I think I am almost done but it is hard to work up the desire to play. 

I think I have come up with a couple things which are sucking the fun out of it for me.

1. The game is easy, way way easy.  I am not a great gamer.  I start games on 'easy', I use walkthroughs, and sometimes I will use cheat codes (although not often)  However even for me, TP is easy.  Since the game is so easy it has lead to a few things.

a. I don't care about upgrading my skills.  I have never needed more that the 'A' button to win a fight yet so why should I wander around looking for that stupid wolf?  I have never 'put away my sword' to lure an enemy close, nor anything else.

b. I don't care about finding heart pieces.  I have never dropped below half during a boss fight anyway so why explore every nook and cranny? 

c. I could not care less about keeping stocked with arrows, bombs, etc. because the appear all the time in the dungeons.  I don't care about upgrading my bomb bag or quiver because I know that anywhere that a bomb is needed nearby will be a jar with some or a chest.  Also I never need to shop - which leads to point #2

2. There is nothing worth buying. 

a. This kills the desire to explore.  I know of at least 3 locations with orange rupees but I don't care because there is nothing worth buying.   

b. This also kills the desire to do bug hunts because I read (see I do use walkthroughs) that all I get is a larger wallet.  Well if there is nothing to buy why do I need a bigger wallet?

c. I never turn into a wolf unless required (like for tight rope walking).  Wolf form sees buried treasure but I don't need any of that so there is no point. 

Wind Waker was easy too, but I love, love, love cell shaded graphics.  I put over 60 hours into DQ8 which was really basic mostly because I loved walking around looking at things.  Same with WW.  I just would walk around for the beauty of it.

TP is good looking but it isn't beautiful to me.  I never go to a new area and think "wow!"  I did that all the time in WW. 

How is the game holding up for others?  Are you still excited to fire it up when you get home?  Still anticipating the next dungeon?  Do you care if Agatha gets a few more bugs for her weird ball?

2743  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: final fantasy 7 on the psp. on: January 28, 2007, 07:01:20 PM

Quote from: warning on January 28, 2007, 03:54:25 PM

It's pretty damn sweet.  I'm playing Suikoden right now and I just finished Spyro the Dragon.  Kinda solves the problem of the PSP not having enough good games to play.

Of course it doesn't take any advantage of any of the strong hardware of the PSP...
2744  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: Duke Nukem Forever Screenshot?! on: January 26, 2007, 09:37:35 PM
This topic has been moved to PC Gaming.

I think this is still PC only - thankfully.
2745  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Where do you Fall? on: January 25, 2007, 09:03:59 PM

Interesting that none of the questions dealt with sports games.  RPGs, FPS, and on-line games.
2746  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Do these things happen to other people too? on: January 25, 2007, 02:43:57 PM
Do these things happen to other people too?


2747  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-Ray, we have a problem on: January 24, 2007, 05:12:37 PM

Quote from: warning on January 12, 2007, 12:52:09 PM

I don't want to see porn in HD.  Pores, acne, stubble, warts... no thanks.

I think you are missing a lot of the potential to HD.  They could allow you to pick different angles, to move the camera how you want, see what you want...they could have much more interactive content with the HD format.  It isn't all about image quality.
2748  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Turok (360) Screenshots... on: January 23, 2007, 04:14:50 PM
I am amazed Turok has enough brand recognition to get this green lighted. 
2749  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Oh Noos...Blu-Ray cracked too on: January 22, 2007, 09:40:46 PM

Quote from: gellar on January 22, 2007, 09:32:52 PM

Quote from: jblank on January 22, 2007, 09:29:19 PM

Quote from: Hetz on January 22, 2007, 08:50:37 PM

Since HD-DVD was cracked and it used the same system, I'm not surprised at all.

All this means though, is that Blu-Ray will now switch to BD+, which was why Fox and Disney went with Blu-Ray in the first place....HD-DVD has no such fall back measure in place.

This is very bad news though for both formats, cause it gives justification now for the companies to throw on even more DRM to combat this kind of stuff and of course it's the customers that will lose.

To the 'hackers' that did this....thanks alot, morons.

Actually you should thank them. It proves that DRM is ridiculous and that the best way to combat piracy is to price media lower, rather than charging $25-35 for BR/HD DVD media. If they REALLY wanted to end piracy, then price movies at $10-$12 or something, be more proactive about this, rather than trying to build yet another castle wall, that is easily knocked down.

Do you REALLY think that lowering the price would cause pirating to cease?


It is just as "pie in the sky" as believing DRM will cause pirating to cease.

2750  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Growing a forum on: January 22, 2007, 02:03:41 PM
Here is list of 10 tips to grow a forum.  What do you think we do well?  What can we do more of? 

   1. No doubt that most people are aware that first impressions count, and forums are no exception. Undoubtedly the biggest problem facing forum owners is how to make their community stand out and make a good first impression that will encourage visitors to sign up to the forum. Unfortunately, far too many forums look unattractive, with default forum skins, poorly coordinated colour schemes or confusing forum titles. Though a bespoke skin customised to your specific forum is preferred, there are plenty of excellent free skins available, and by simply tweaking the colour scheme to suit your forum, you can have something that costs nothing, yet is much more visually appealing. Combine this with a logical ordering of forum categories and detailed descriptions, and you have immediately improved the appeal of your forum dramatically.

   2. Following on from the above point, the next job is to look at the structure of your forum. Though ultimately you need to advertise to increase your member count, the starting point is to get your forum looking as inviting as possible in order to get maximum return on your investment. Look at your forum categories and descriptions and decide whether or not you really need all the forums, or whether certain topics could be combined. Empty forums do not look appealing, so aim to have a handful of relevant forums to start off with and gradually expand as required.

   3. Next on the list is to add an incentive to your forum. Unfortunately, long gone are the days when people would sign up to a forum just because the topic took their interest. Now, there is a wide range of forums for almost every subject imaginable, so it is vital that you have something that sets yourself apart from the competition. Whether you offer loyalty reward points that can be exchanged for goods or vouchers, or simply have membership ranks to encourage active participation, you almost certainly need something in order to attract the visitors and turn them into actively participating members. Be creative, though at the same time be realistic – do not offer anything that you are not prepared to fulfil, particularly if your advertising proves to be particularly successful.

   4. Population of your forum is important, and although it is difficult early on when the member count may be a little low, there are ways and means of getting information and people on your boards. The ideal solution is to enrol the services of friends, family or colleagues that may be able to make a handful of posts on your forum to get things started. Alternatively, it is fairly easy to trade posts with other forum owners in order to get things moving. You can purchase posts from paid posting companies, whereby people are paid to make a set number of posts on your forum. Though not suited for niche topics, mainstream forums may be able to use these services effectively as a means of getting the ball rolling.

   5. A moderation team is also an essential part of any successful forum. Early on there will be very little for these members of staff to do, though as time progresses you will no doubt encounter spammers and unsavoury characters that do little for the reputation of your forum. The added bonus of having a moderation team is that discussion can be started between them which will give visitors something to read and hopefully feel strongly enough to post their own thoughts on the subject. Moderators give visitors a sense of organisation, and whilst you do not want too many early on dominating the forum, two or three regular moderators and/or administrators will give your forum the impression of an active, organised community.

   6. Advertising is an essential step in growing any website, and again forums are no exception. Once you have the look and structure of your forum in place and some recent material for visitors to see, it is now time to look at potential advertising avenues. Search engine submission is a good starting point, and whilst the majority of good search engines may already have you in their listings, this process is free and relatively quick, and so the opportunity of customising your listing shouldn’t be missed out on. Directory submission is becoming a more popular way of generating back links, though it shouldn’t be relied upon too heavily as the number of sites entering these directories now means that it is very difficult to get seen unless you cover a niche subject. Better ways of advertising your forum include article submission, whereby you write an article on a relevant subject and submit it to free article directories along with a link back to your forum. Again, the results are unlikely to be spectacular, but the added back links will add value to your site. More targeted advertising may include banner or text adverts on related sites, though bear in mind that very popular, traffic-heavy websites will be charging a premium for their advertising space. Look around the web and see what is on offer, though remember that you do get what you pay for, and often cheap advertising will result in very little return.

   7. Word of mouth is a much more powerful advertising tool, though it can be difficult getting people to take notice unless you run a large, popular community. However, all publicity is good publicity, so display your link everywhere, including on your website, in profiles and in signatures. If you are an active member on a large forum, just imagine how many people will be seeing the link to your forum. If you happen to have a moderating team, ask them to do the same, or even consider purchasing “signature space”, which is where you can have a link in an active member’s signature for a set period of time for a small fee.

   8. Sponsor or run a competition. If you are a relative newcomer, then it may be a better idea to sponsor a competition on a related website or forum that already has a significant user base or at least steady traffic. Most sponsorship deals entail purchasing a prize or offering a service in return for having links to your forum and/or website listed within the competition details. This can be particularly effective if the site in question is popular and is on the same topic as your own forum. Alternatively, you can run your own competition as an incentive for visitors to sign up for your forum and participate. Make sure that it is accessible to as many people as possible to encourage the maximum number of entries. Be aware that this may not be a good idea unless you have a significant prize, a reasonably sized existing user base or a moderate advertising budget – the last thing you want is a flop of a competition with few or no entries at all.

   9. Purchasing material can be an excellent way to improve your forum and instantly turn it into a valuable information resource. If you are a design-based forum, for example, then giving registered users access to free forum skins or web templates will give you community an added incentive and yet another reason for visitors to sign up. If your community is based around information, such as travel, then purchasing a set of guides and releasing them as a weekly feature will give visitors a good reason to return. Alternatively, you could post these to a separate blog and use that as a means to drive traffic to the forum through links and advertising. Remember that content is king, and by giving your forum a real boost in this department, you are drastically increasing its appeal and potential.

  10. Search engine optimisation is something that isn’t always associated with forums as much as it perhaps should be. All too often, META tags, keyword density and URL’s are largely ignored by forum owners, which can have a detrimental effect on how your board is seen by search engines and in turn potential members. Take advantage of the tools available and make use of keyword rich text and forum descriptions on your main page. It is also worth investigating the possibility of a mod rewrite or similar function, whereby the ugly, unintelligible URLs of threads are rewritten using the thread title, leading far more friendly links. The majority of major forum platforms such as vBulletin now support this, so it is worth checking the documentation before looking for a third party solution.
2751  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: PASTE! on: January 19, 2007, 09:27:46 PM,,id=96406,00.html

Earned Income Tax Credit...exciting stuff!
2752  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics screenshots on: January 19, 2007, 05:44:30 PM
I don't remember the blow job scene in the first screen shot - but I am more interested in the game now!   icon_eek

2753  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [Wii] Fire Emblem Screens on: January 19, 2007, 12:55:20 AM
Yeah when is this due.  It never appeared on lists of anticipated Wii games for this year so does that mean next year or that no one really cares?
2754  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Anyone See Crank? Also, what about Smokin Aces? on: January 17, 2007, 10:41:35 PM

Quote from: TK-421 on January 17, 2007, 04:54:59 PM

Quote from: Nth Power on January 17, 2007, 03:17:31 AM

Just saw Crank last night and I didn't really care for it.  The story is probably the best part of it.  It's ludicrous and stupid, but it makes it kind of funny.  I thought the action was unspired and borderline boring.  At least the Transporter flicks had some decent stunts with the mindless action.  I'd say if you liked the Transporter flicks, Crank is about half as good.

What about somebody who enjoyed the first Transporter movie but then spent almost the entire time watching the second Transporter movie rolling his eyes and going, "Oh come ON!"?

That was me!  While the Transporter had some pretty over the top stunts at least they looked like stunts.  You could see that they planned his jump, swing, punch etc.  so it wasn't real but it was at least done with real people.  T2 was just stupid.  The whole flipping the car to catch the bomb on a hook thing was just so dumb it hurt.

Anyway, Crank was one of the stupidest, most pointless, lackluster, dull films I have seen in years.  There were no fight scenes, but some gun fights.  However the gunfights were cut in a way that made them boring.  The direction was often like that with odd cuts that actually made the film more dull instead of more intense. 

I would move it farther down your queue.
2755  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How would we react to Al-Qaeda detonating a nuke in an American city? on: January 16, 2007, 09:14:29 PM
I would get duct tape and plastic...I hear that makes you safe.
2756  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Phoenix Wright 2 Impressions on: January 16, 2007, 08:54:22 PM

Quote from: ATB on January 15, 2007, 02:10:29 PM

Huzzah. It arrives this week.  Mine will probably show up by next monday  retard

I've heard both good and bad about it.

Good: More Phoenix Wright goodness.

Bad: Straight GBA port with no extra DS specific case

Make with the impressions, or Damon Gant will get you!

Will it have the DS specific features even with no extra cases?  Stuff like the use of the stylus, the blowing, etc.
2757  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Playoff Predictions (AFC/NFC Championship Edition) on: January 16, 2007, 05:28:06 PM
Tempers seem a bit high for what is a pretty calm thread overall.  Lets move back to more talk about football and less about posters.

So how about them Chiefs?!  (are they even a team anymore...are they just schedule filler for teams?)

2758  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Poor PS3 Sales in North America. on: January 16, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
They just marketed it wrong.  They marketed it as the next in the PS line of gaming consoles where as they built it and priced it as the a Blu-Ray/home entertainment system

Seriously in Sony had called it a Blu-Ray player put some silly model number on it like the XJ-2750 it would have flown off the shelve.  Why?  Because it is half the cost of all the other Blu-Ray players out there.  It makes Blu-Ray competitive to HD-DVD players.

However they marketed it as the next in their line of gaming consoles.  I think they saw a huge overlap between gamers and HD movie buffs.  MS sees that as well but they offered the HD as an add-on which reduced the cost of their gaming machine but still allowed them to get the people who simply must have HD movies. 

All in all Sony screwed up.  What matters now is seeing if they can pull something out of the mess.

2759  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Girl dies trying to get a Wii. on: January 15, 2007, 01:26:32 PM

Quote from: Eduardo X on January 15, 2007, 05:42:18 AM

Quote from: Dafones on January 15, 2007, 03:45:07 AM

I'd heard of water intoxication before this thread.
Me too.
What if the contest was "eat rat poison for a Wii"? Would we be asking if the station made a mistake then, or if they were liable?

What if it was "run a mile" and some fat ass dropped over from a heart attack would the station then have made a mistake?
2760  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Xbox 360 model confirmed by Paul Thurott on: January 14, 2007, 07:03:10 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on January 14, 2007, 06:33:15 PM

Quote from: farley2k on January 14, 2007, 06:08:53 PM

Heck a lot of PS2 games I have look better than 360 games - so does that mean the PS2 is more powerful? 

Care to name them? 

Dragon Quest 8 vs. Enchanted Arms.    Final Fantasty 12 vs. well about anything.

Of course since "looks better" is subjective I wll bet many might disagree. 
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