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2601  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Blu-ray aims to oust DVDs within three years on: March 16, 2007, 12:52:27 PM
Replace DVDs for storage in 3 years?  Good luck with that.  Until I can buy a Blu-Ray burner for $20 and media for under 50 cents apiece I will not be switching.
2602  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: February 2007 Hardware Sales on: March 16, 2007, 01:14:21 AM
All these numbers tell me is that Sony killed the PS2 before it was done - and it isn't going quietly.  With Guitar Hero 2 and some of the other games, plus the price point they could have easily been the dominant system over Christmas, and still into now.

They pushed out a console before the previous generation was slowing in sales so they could try to get a video format out the door. 

2603  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: God of War 2 Impressions on: March 15, 2007, 02:11:49 PM
Got it and played about a half hour last night.  My wife was sitting there reading and commented that she was going to get very, very sick of Kratos say "I am the God of War!" "I will make you suffer" or whatever lame comment he makes every time you use the spell at the beginning.  I have to agree.  It was just stupidly repetitious.  Why do they do that?  Why not set it so he only says that once every 3rd time or something? 

Other than that it is a great game. 
2604  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: It's no Montgomery Flea Market ... on: March 14, 2007, 06:01:27 PM
This topic has been moved to Off-Topic.

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2605  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: European Playstation 3 not so backwards compatible on: March 14, 2007, 02:10:17 PM

Quote from: Calvin on March 14, 2007, 01:39:21 PM

Quote from: farley2k on March 14, 2007, 01:30:14 PM

Quote from: Calvin on March 14, 2007, 01:02:57 PM

Quote from: Hetz on March 14, 2007, 12:53:40 PM

Quote from: farley2k on March 14, 2007, 12:52:49 PM

So the moral of the story is don't buy a PS3 if you don't have broadband. 

Or buy any games, since games will update the firmware for you....just like the PSP. smile

Yep. Obviously. Seriously people, you are just getting absurd with this stuff.


So people are absurd for being upset that a very expensive console which promised full backwards compatibility is not going to have it?  Yes we don't know yet how bad or good it will be with the 1.6 firmware but I don't think it is absurd for people to be worried.

Why not, you say?  Because of the complete fuck up regarding DVD upscaling at the US release for one.  Perhaps people look at how Sony has been treating its US customers and they are worried.  I don't find that the least bit absurd.

I am not sure this is absolutely correct so feel free to let me know, but I remember reading in several places Sony saying that they were taking out the emotion chips from the European release and that the BC was going to be firmware based updates, and it was going to take one major firware upgrade to get the 1200 or so they promised up to spec. Having said that, I think its a little silly to claim outrage when games aren't working yet with the 1.5 firmware when Sony said "1.6 is the number to get all that working the way we want it to". I am not sure which US dvd upscaling issue you are talking about, but upscaling is going to be added in a firmware patch in the very near future and I don't ever remember that being promsied out of the box. Are you talking about the problems with games downscaling to 480p when they didn't detect 720p compatible TVs? If so-yeah, that was freaking idiotic and we all agree with you.


"Are you talking about the problems with games downscaling to 480p when they didn't detect 720p compatible TVs? If so-yeah, that was freaking idiotic and we all agree with you."  Yeah, that is what I was talking about.  ooppss
2606  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: European Playstation 3 not so backwards compatible on: March 14, 2007, 01:30:14 PM

Quote from: Calvin on March 14, 2007, 01:02:57 PM

Quote from: Hetz on March 14, 2007, 12:53:40 PM

Quote from: farley2k on March 14, 2007, 12:52:49 PM

So the moral of the story is don't buy a PS3 if you don't have broadband. 

Or buy any games, since games will update the firmware for you....just like the PSP. smile

Yep. Obviously. Seriously people, you are just getting absurd with this stuff.


So people are absurd for being upset that a very expensive console which promised full backwards compatibility is not going to have it?  Yes we don't know yet how bad or good it will be with the 1.6 firmware but I don't think it is absurd for people to be worried.

Why not, you say?  Because of the complete fuck up regarding DVD upscaling at the US release for one.  Perhaps people look at how Sony has been treating its US customers and they are worried.  I don't find that the least bit absurd.



2607  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Crysis: Screenshots vs. Real world (56K warning) on: March 14, 2007, 12:54:45 PM
but are those screenshots from a "recommended" system?  I don't doubt the game will play but will it be incredible or just average looking?
2608  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: European Playstation 3 not so backwards compatible on: March 14, 2007, 12:52:49 PM
So the moral of the story is don't buy a PS3 if you don't have broadband. 
2609  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo responds to "Home" on: March 08, 2007, 09:28:51 PM
I am not sure why N felt the need to do this.  They have very clear chosen to go a different way with the Wii and they shouldn't feel the need to try to do this kind of thing.  Oh well, not all PR folks are perfect.
2610  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Fire Emblem - should just stay on the DS/GBA on: March 08, 2007, 07:46:44 PM
I also think with games like this they could be cranking them out a bit faster.  Once you have a bug free engine, all you need is a new story and new maps for a new game.  They don't have to do class balancing, weapon tweaks, etc. 

I know they do seem to change things each time - but I don't think they need to.  Strategy fans are willing to play the game with the same mechanics with new maps, and story.  Quite honestly I don't find any of the additions to PoR to be all that worthwhile (things like automatic leveling at level 21, skills being assigned, etc.).  Sure they are ok but I would have been just as soon have had two more games with the same system as SS.
2611  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Fire Emblem - should just stay on the DS/GBA on: March 08, 2007, 06:21:26 PM
I am playing though FE: The Path of Radiance and I have to say "Intelligent Systems, stick with the DS/GBA"  There is nothing which is improved by being on the Cube, and from the movies I have seen there is nothing about being on the Wii which makes uses the system in an important way.  If you are not going to use the systems differences from the handheld - then put it on the handheld!

How many Wiis are there world wide?  How many DSes?  Why would you put out a game on the Wii which works the same as it would on the DS when the install base is so much larger on the DS?  It is just dumb.  They will sell a fraction of the units and gain nothing.

Is there going to be a DS FE?  Has anyone heard rumors?

2612  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Secrets of the Ark: In Under my Radar on: March 07, 2007, 01:07:52 AM
Yes it is Angel of Death renamed.  I am pretty interested since I love the games and the reviews indicate it is better than the last one. 

Now if I could just find it at BB...
2613  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Re: Wanted: Fire Emblem on: March 06, 2007, 11:04:36 PM
I have seen two copies of the 1st FE game at Video Games Etc. here in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.  It was $25.  I would be happy to buy it and send it at cost to you (say $28 with priority mail shipping) if you would like.

PM me if you want to try that.

2614  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Just Accused Me of Being Anti-Competitive! on: March 06, 2007, 01:03:17 AM

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on March 05, 2007, 10:56:29 PM

And what makes this even worse is how slowly government moves compared to the business world. There won't be any tangible effect to this law next year, but ten years from now the de-facto standard for document formats used by business will have changed completely, but states will have their own byzantine requirements for documents based off the original standard. Then you'll get compliance checking, which will summarily reject documents if it is slightly out of conformance, followed by people with vested interests lobbying the state to prevent adopting new standards.

I mean this with all respect to you and Unbreakable - I don't think you know much about the formats being suggested.  I don't know a ton either but if you read the Wiki pages on it and if you read through this slashdot thread and you will learn a lot (I know it really helped me understand the situation.

One thing I will quote.

Quote
As I understand it, the big advantage of using XML in ODF (don't know about OOXML) is that you can extract the actual content of your document as XML, change it, resave it and it all renders properly (this assumes that your styles etc. are set up correctly).

For example, in theory I should be able to create an empty document that just contains all my style info, insert *all* the content with appropriate pointers to the styles I want to use, save it, and then someone else can come along, open my document and read my content in their program of choice.  If my raw content is XML (as is increasingly the case these days), I can fairly easily automate converting it to ODF format (just as I've been able to easily convert it to HTML, PDF and a bunch of other formats for a while now).  ODF then becomes a simple "container" that anyone anywhere can use without needing any proprietary tools to do so.

I can then save my content as strict XML, then render it in whatever format the user requires.  If they've got Acrobat, I'll give them a PDF file; if they've got OpenOffice or AbiWord, I'll give them an ODF doc; if they've got a Web browser, I'll give them HTML.  *This* is the big plus of open document formats in general; the actual format of the document essentially becomes unimportant, since anyone who wants to look at it can do so in their tool of choice.  If one tool is crappy, or becomes unavailable, or doesn't support e.g. Swahili, no problem - just find a different tool.

In terms of whether XML is the optimal format for this type of data in the first place, it's probably a good fit for almost all cases, as distinct from being a really great fit for only a few cases.  Depending on how you define "better", it's not hard to come up with a better format for a book than:
<title>My document</title>
<subtitle>Written by me</subtitle>
<chapter>First chapter</chapter>
<chaptertext>The quick brown fox...</chaptertext>




So 100 years from now all that has to happen is that someone submitting a document to the government uses this open standard and the government will be able to open it with whatever software they have.


As someone who has already been bitten by citizens having Office2007 and sending them to us which we can't open with Office 2003 (yes, unless we install a convert by MS.  I know we can do it, but should we have to?), I can say that I really, really would love an open standards law. 
2615  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Just Accused Me of Being Anti-Competitive! on: March 05, 2007, 05:06:32 PM

Quote from: unbreakable on March 05, 2007, 04:21:36 PM

My main beef is having legislation decide what document formats a product should use.  Because we all know what a great job the government is doing legislating everything else, especially stuff they have complete control over (like air traffic control, law enforcement, etc).

I see it more as the government deciding that household voltage should be 110.  How would you like it if when you moved to a new apartment you had to buy all new appliances because that complex uses different voltages?

The government is forcing what voltage should be used in all appliances but they are not forcing you to buy a JVC tv.   
2616  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Microsoft Just Accused Me of Being Anti-Competitive! on: March 05, 2007, 02:07:50 PM
As a lowly city employee I am in favor of this kind of legislation. 

It in no way shape or form hurts MS because MS could simply make Word open/edit/save in that format.  It can already do .txt, .rft, and about 10 other ones from the drop down list. 

If Word is so great then offices will continue to use it to make their ODF files.   However by using an open format if someone wants to use something else they can. 

In the ODF scenario everybody wins.  Word lovers continue to use it because they enjoy the rich features, those that don't have the money can get a free program, and those that just hate the whole standards thing can just ignore it smile 

2617  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Steampunk Starwars? on: March 03, 2007, 08:35:51 PM

Quote from: Doopri on March 03, 2007, 08:20:09 PM

okay im a pretty humongous star wars geek but this one has always gone over my head - whats the deal with "han shot first"?  ive never "read up" on it, i know it refers to the exchange with greedo in the cantina - someone please fill in the details

In the original cut of SW Han shot Greedo before Greedo could shoot him.  In the SE cut they CGed a laster blast coming from Greedo's gun before Han shoots.  I can only assume that Lucas thought shooting first made Han look like a killer rather than a lovable rouge.  It drives fans nuts because it does change a viewers perception of Han.  It drives me nuts because it is so badly done.  Greedo is aiming right at Han's chest but the shot goes over his shoulder.  Well lasers don't just angle off!  It would go straight.  However they really couldn't CG Greedo's gun to be angled so it just looks stupid. 

2618  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Worms out 3/7/07 on: March 02, 2007, 04:29:24 PM
Now with Live games like this do I need a "Gold" membership to play on line or will "Silver" do? 

2619  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I am now officially done with Gamestop on: March 02, 2007, 04:21:28 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 02, 2007, 03:52:33 PM

Quote from: farley2k on March 02, 2007, 03:35:29 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 02, 2007, 03:44:57 AM

While it's ultimately their perogative in the end, good business practice says you take care of the customer that is handing you $50 over the one that might remember to come in and pick it up from their year old pre-order.  Especially the one that tells you there's a problem and they might not come back.

This particular statement I couldn't disagree with more.  Good business practice is not to screw over any customer not right there and that is what you are saying they should do.  Since the person who pre-ordered wasn't there and you were they should screw the pre-order.  That is just bad business. 

If they just got the demo in yesterday, sure.  But they've had these demos in-store for 2-3 weeks.  I would think there comes a point when you assume the pre-order people won't be coming to get them and make them available to other people.




I agree but what I was disagreeing with is the idea that it is good business to ignore the customer who pre-ordered but isn't there.  The comment seemed to say that if the customer isn't in the store - tough crap.  However the whole point of pre-orders is so customers feel secure and believe the don't have to be there right at release day. 
2620  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I am now officially done with Gamestop on: March 02, 2007, 03:38:25 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 02, 2007, 03:44:57 AM

And herein lies the entire problem.  This store used to care.  They used to give a shit.  And they used to take care of their customers to make sure they come back.  If I don't care about anything more than employees just being civil, then I'll go somewhere more convenient.  I always made it a point to hit this Gamestop, however, because they were better than the faceless Best Buy or Circuit City.  They're not anymore, so I won't make any effort to give them my money.


You are by far the exception.


The American consumer has spoken quite clearly by making Wal-Mart and other "big box" stores the stores they go to.  Gamestop isn't doing this in a vacuum.  They have seen very clearly where people take their dollars. 

2621  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I am now officially done with Gamestop on: March 02, 2007, 03:35:29 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 02, 2007, 03:44:57 AM

While it's ultimately their perogative in the end, good business practice says you take care of the customer that is handing you $50 over the one that might remember to come in and pick it up from their year old pre-order.  Especially the one that tells you there's a problem and they might not come back.

This particular statement I couldn't disagree with more.  Good business practice is not to screw over any customer not right there and that is what you are saying they should do.  Since the person who pre-ordered wasn't there and you were they should screw the pre-order.  That is just bad business. 



2622  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How do people come up with this stuff? (NSFW) on: March 02, 2007, 03:31:18 AM
That is hilarious! 
2623  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: I am now officially done with Gamestop on: March 02, 2007, 03:28:59 AM
 I don't know, he wasn't rude or insulting.  While he didn't do what you wanted perhaps he had been told not to and felt it was important to follow instructions.

Perhaps my standards are just too low but at those stores if they are just civil my expectations have been met.  It sounds like he was civil.

2624  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Indie Game Sites? on: February 27, 2007, 02:07:19 PM
Indygamer Blog has the top 20 adventure games of 2006 here.

Some of them look interesting.  Has anyone tried any of them?
2625  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Phil Harrison the next Krazy Ken? [Negative PS3 post] on: February 26, 2007, 08:55:15 PM

Quote from: Destructor on February 26, 2007, 08:48:17 PM

I mean, I know that this guy has to keep a positive spin on things, but it seems that every time Phil opens his mouth, silly pours out.

I think you hit the nail on the head.  It is his job.  Sure it sounds silly but there is not a good way to spin the current situation.  The truth doesn't sound good "It is a great console but really lacks games right now, and it is very expensive."  He would be fired in a minute for saying that.

2626  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / MOVED: Name! This! Movie! on: February 23, 2007, 05:53:34 PM
This topic has been moved to Off-Topic.

http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php?topic=18402.0
2627  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I am not being an ass, can i post this? on: February 22, 2007, 07:05:27 PM

Quote from: Graham on February 22, 2007, 03:54:16 AM

However, I think you missed Laner's point.  A lot of people go to the doctor when they get the slightest sniffle or get a case of the runs for a day.  There are a lot of people that go to the doctor and think that they should get some drug to solve all of their aches and pains when all they need to do is get some cough syrup and a couple days rest.  There is a big difference your situation and someone who goes to the doctor every time they have to blow their nose. 

Again, this doesn't match up with anything I have seen or read or heard about so could you point me to where you are getting that information?


Quote
A large part of the reason that health care is expensive are the uninsured who don't pay for their health care bills (including illegal aliens) and those who abuse the system.  There's more to it than the "big bad drug companies."

Now this is something I have actually heard before! smile  The problem is what do we do about it?  If the uninsured don't go to the doctor they A. spread their illness, B. end up costing more for emergency room visits.  Unless your idea is that we just don't treat them at all.  An idea which I think has its own drawbacks.




2628  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I am not being an ass, can i post this? on: February 22, 2007, 07:00:19 PM

Quote from: Destructor on February 22, 2007, 03:18:00 PM

The problem is that those with free insurance (for the poor), go to the doctor a lot more than the rest of the working population does (as, well, they're working all the time). They're the ones putting a nice strain on the rest of the medical care industry, as everything is paid for by the taxpayers in the end.

That and AHCSS (or whatever the insurance is called in your state for the ones who have no money) pays for WAY too much stuff, IMHO. There should be a drastic difference between basic health care (the cheap stuff) verses the health care we working people have via insurance. Unfortunately, from what I've seen, the insurance for the poor tends to pay for more different types of medications (and without insane $60-80 and up copay costs) than everyone else gets.



Any data to back up those claims?  They don't match up with anything I have heard or read about the health care crisis in the US so I would love to see where you are getting this from. 

2629  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Current gen power consumption on: February 22, 2007, 02:02:49 PM
Nice article showing power consumption of current gen consoles

Save money - buy a Wii!



2630  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: I am not being an ass, can i post this? on: February 22, 2007, 01:40:16 AM

Quote from: Laner on February 21, 2007, 06:08:05 PM

Again, it comes down to taking responsibility for your own health care, doing your own research, and not taking the doctor/insurance's word as law.  But I guess it's easier for some to just whine that the government should take care of all your problems, so you don't have to actually, you know, *think*.

As someone who had a child with a life threatening illness - I think you are simplifying the situation almost to absurdity.  Actually it was a bit more than that - at my son's last follow-up the doctor joked he had seen my son before he was alive.  He came out in a state of cardiac arrest and was (again in the doctor's words) not just blue but almost black.

This "personal responsibility" mantra is great for a lot of health care decisions but is not really useful for an equal amount..  There is no way I could be expect to have the medical knowledge needed to make any kind of "responsible" decision about my son's condition.  There is no way an elderly person should be expected to research all their possible treatment options, or family members when they are deciding the fate of a person whose life is at risk.

It is just absurd. 

Trying to turn this into an individuals fault for not knowing enough is just stupid.
2631  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / GoW 2 already on warez sites on: February 21, 2007, 05:35:27 PM
I usually don't post stuff like this because we have been over the piracy thing a lot but I just wanted to bitch.

I had no idea what the release date for GoW (God of War - not that acronym stealing Gears of Whoopie smile) 2 but since reviews were popping up like flies I figured it must be this week.  I was puzzled by the lack of it in lists of this week's releases here and at EvilAvatar but I figured it must be next week....but no it isn't until 3/13! 

Since I was curious I did a quick check of some sites which list what is available from warez and sure enough the game is there!  So again pirates can get the game weeks before legit users.  That is just annoying. 

Even more annoying is the fact that they released it to reviewers.  Part of me thinks they deserve the lost sales.  Even if the game is done it shouldn't be released to reviewers weeks before it hits the shelves.  It reduces launch day hype because they reviews have been out there for weeks, and it (obviously) gives pirates more time to get the game.  Why would they do that?

Just another way honest users/consumers get screwed.

2632  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Why no internet radio on the 360? on: February 20, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
It sounds like I will be downloading Tversity tonight. smile

2633  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Why no internet radio on the 360? on: February 20, 2007, 07:55:42 PM
I have a modded Xbox that lets me do internet radio, so why haven't they built that into the 360?  It is on-line, so all they have to do is make an app (or part of the media "blade") which lets you put in URLs and plays them.  Is there something difficult about this that I don't get?
2634  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Live Arcade Title for 2/21 is..... on: February 20, 2007, 07:50:55 PM
Since there are no releases this week and this thread is clearly not about Live Arcade anymore I am locking this thread.  This can be brought up again in Everything but Gaming if anyone still wants to continue the discussion.


BTW I appreciate everyone keeping it civil and having a discussion rather than a fight.  It just isn't a discussion for Console Gaming.
2635  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Comic books are WAY too expensive on: February 16, 2007, 08:53:35 PM
Trade Paperbacks that is the term! 

I have no doubt this will be put out in TP and sold for cheaper than I could get each one individually.

It was a pretty great comic though.  I think I will try to find it in a few months when it comes out in TP.
2636  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Comic books are WAY too expensive on: February 16, 2007, 08:16:48 PM
Talk about sticker shock.  I read this review on Evil Avatar and thought about picking up Shazam.  I liked the art style and the story seemed neat but $6 for a comic book?  I must be out of touch because that seems way, way too high.  Especially since it is a 1 of 4 run which means I bet it comes out in a book with all 4 (can't remember what they are called).

I feel sort of bad but I stopped by the local comic book store and was able to read the whole thing in like 3 minutes  (lots of art style but not a lot of dialogue).  I do think I will buy it when the whole collection is out but I cannot imagine paying that much per book.

2637  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Thinking about getting a MAC on: February 16, 2007, 01:54:32 PM
I would be a MAC user if I didn't play games.  I think the OS is great.  It is easy to use, clean, fast and crashes less.  Of course the downsides are that everything is more expensive for the MAC.  Since there are not the free range of hardware vendors Apple charges more for everything. 

To be fair though, from what you say you use the PC for they would probably both be equally good and you can get a PC for a lot less.  I helped my mother in law buy one from Dell a few months ago and it came to around $400 for the PC, monitor and a free printer!  You can't get a MAC for that much.  Sure it wasn't top of the line fast but you don't need that to do office apps, Internet and email. 

2638  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: US Military tells Jack Bauer: Cut out the torture.. or else! on: February 15, 2007, 09:57:24 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on February 15, 2007, 05:30:20 PM

Despite the article's title including the "...or else!" part, I can't find any indication that he threatened or pressured anyone in that article.  What I see here is career military man, charged with teaching the rules of warfare at West Point, voicing his concern about how he sees the glorification of torture affecting the attitudes of the recruits.  He is not only an American citizen, but one who is in a unique position to see what's looming on the minds of our young servicemen.  I'm having trouble thinking of any reason why he shouldn't be allowed to speak his piece.

For the sake of conversation, let's assume for a moment that he is acting inappropriately by "speaking out" against 24 ("speaking out" being defined as "having a private meeting with the creators of the show").  How is that different from the news commentators and political pundits who frequently laud the series on a national level?  I have not seen anyone on these forums getting upset when a nationally syndicated columnist cites the series as "what could be our prophetic and imminent future, with a nuclear device exploding in major cities," or a radio personality refers to it as "a national referendum" on whether or not torture is okay, yet now we're all outraged because a military general is troubled by those same themes? 

If Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, and Cal Thomas are allowed to hold up Jack Bauer as the embodiment of how things should be done -- and they certainly are allowed to share their opinions -- then clearly Brigadier General Patrick Finnegan is permitted to share his personal experiences with how those ideas are starting color the attitudes our military recruits.  And frankly, if he's even a little bit correct, he has a rather urgent responsibility to let us all know about it.

-Autistic Angel


+1
2639  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: US Military tells Jack Bauer: Cut out the torture.. or else! on: February 15, 2007, 09:54:41 PM

Quote from: Brendan on February 15, 2007, 05:38:41 PM

Quote from: ScubaV on February 15, 2007, 05:34:54 PM

Unbreakable, you're assuming I condone torture.  When you said "it's promoting the illusion of it being an effective method of getting information." it just made me curious as to what would make you arrive at such a conclusion, hence my post.

Leaving aside the moral and ethical issues of committing torture (which is a repugnant act), yes, there is evidence that it is not effective.  Researchers - both civilian and military - believe it be an ineffective way to gain intelligence.

Given recent events in American history, there is a large body of recent press on the subject.  For example:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14924664/site/newsweek/

and

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=820467



Dang you beat me to it. 


Just a quick google search on "does torture work" gives more that enough information to conclude it doesn't.


Of course the real way to get intel is boring analysis and spending a long time getting into the groups.  Both of which make very, very dull shows - especially when Jack only has one day to get it done!
2640  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Best/Worst Game Rental Service? on: February 14, 2007, 09:46:39 PM
I think it is time to join a game rental service.

I am a sucker for new games but I am a slow gamer so it takes me a long time to finish games.  Couple that with a short attention span and I hardly ever finish a game. So I get a game based on hype, reviews, etc. play for a bit lose interest, get another game based on hype, play a bit .....round and round. Since I don't have a lot of money I tend to finance those new game purchases by trading in games I haven't even finished! However I often want to go back to games months later when there is a dry spell and I end up purchasing games again! 

This is not a good situation.  It seems like a rental service would be perfect.  I get new games, play them a bit, send them back with the forum effect pulls me to a new game, then I can get them again later if I get the yen.  For example I am having an urge to finish Resident Evil 4, but I traded it a long time ago.  If I had a membership to a rental service I would be able to just get it!  I still have my saved games after all so I wouldn't even have to start from scratch.


So, long explanation for simple question - have you used a game rental service and do you like them?  What ones are good, which are bad?  Oh, and who is the cheapest?
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