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1481  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Half Life 2 - the reviews are in on: November 15, 2004, 08:19:04 PM
I'm surprised...I expected slightly higher especially compared to some of the recent console titles that have come out and their scores.
1482  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Everquest 2 - first impressions on: November 15, 2004, 06:48:14 PM
Well, my character impressions after a long 4 day playing period:

Mage - my favorite by far.  I love the various spells and the robes stand out in the multitude of beginning armors.  The hallmark quest was very easy and I finished it in around an hour to become a sorcerer.  No groups required except for the optional orc chief quest in the beginning island.  Judging from the damage listing on eq2players there are some powerful spells (400+ damage in one hit).    

Priest - my primary backup and second favorite class.  I found it easy to solo except for 1 place...the hallmark quest.  The fairy part of the hallmark quest requires a group unless you want your ass handed to you.  I got through it grouped with another priest and a fighter with no problems.  Much in demand because of the healing and res. features.  Currently a shaman and getting some decent powers.

Fighter - getting ready to delete's boring to me and just not as much fun.  He's a real tank and does a lot of damage but it's just not for me.

Scout - also fun.  I like playing the scout (and hope to get to ranger) but I'm worried about the time investment.  I'm concentrating on the priest and mage for now.  There are rumors that the hallmark quest is bugged or much harder post patch.  Even at level 6 he can do some nice damage (sneak attach and then quick strike equals +10, +4, +7, +4 damage best so far for a total of 25 damage in two hits and much better than my fighter at the same level).  All at app 1 levels.

Other things:

Money is scarce and space to store items is very scarce.  These seem to be major complaints on the main forums and come up very often.  I like the money system since everything is actually valuable and you don't just carry bags of gold and ruin the economy.  Also money has weight...make sure to convert your copper to silver at the bank or face getting overloaded.

Learn the key commands and shortcuts...they save time and effort and make your life much easier.

I haven't had much lag even on full servers (Crushbone, Lucan, etc) but some people are really bad off.  One member of my group drowned because he was in water and lagged for a full minute before getting control back.  He also took 15 minutes to cross the harbor while I took 5.
1483  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Is there any way to run EQ II in 16bit color? on: November 15, 2004, 04:05:44 PM
No, one of the devs in the forum (and in the FAQ) stated that 32bit and Directx 9c are required to play.  In addition the desktop should also be set to 32bit before starting EQ2.  

For anyone else wondering (all two of you) Geforce MX cards are not supported in any way.  Also Geforce 6xxx series cards require the latest drivers to prevent tearing and graphic problems.
1484  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Does anybody else need to lose some weight? on: November 15, 2004, 01:43:15 AM
I'm also close to 6'2 and around 210 right now...was down to 200 before I went on vacation a couple weeks ago.  Right now I'm trying to maintain through the's just too hard to really cut back until New Years.
1485  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Zoo Tycoon 2 is out on: November 12, 2004, 09:43:12 PM
It was $34.99 and includes the National Geographic DVD and "limited" pen with it as well.  I just happened to buy both since EQ2 was also on sale.
1486  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Everquest 2 - first impressions on: November 12, 2004, 09:41:41 PM
I've been solo the past few days (except for one quest that was optional) and have had no problems.  I did have to group to kill the orc chief but everything else has been solo as a mage.  I haven't even had to wait for respawns to complete the beginning quests which is something I can not say for WoW.  It may be that I'm on a light server and not a medium or heavy load but it is possible at least early on.

I'd like to add that I'm loving it so far.  I appeciate the art and direction WoW took but really love the EQ world.  Given the choice between the two I picked EQ2 and I'm glad I did (hopefully I'll say the same thing 3 months from now).
1487  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Best Game of All Time Round 4 on: November 12, 2004, 04:22:34 PM

Ultima VII
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Planescape: Torment


Baldur's Gate 2
Diablo 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Deus Ex

I haven't voted in the previous 3 so I hope it's ok for this one.
1488  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / EQ2 Servers and Characters on: November 12, 2004, 03:22:36 PM
I'd love to meet up and group with some reliable people from here...especially on the beginning island.  I'll look up my name when I get home and edit my post above.  Hopefully I'll be playing some this afternoon and some more tonight.
1489  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Zoo Tycoon 2 is out on: November 12, 2004, 01:35:42 PM
I got this on sale at Target along with Everquest II yesterday and my wife played it for a few hours.  Basic impressions: It's not bad.  She didn't have any crashes or apparent memory drains and it appears to be true 3D.  Graphically it looks much better than the previous but it's going to take a much better computer and video card to run at the same level.
1490  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / EQ2 Servers and Characters on: November 12, 2004, 12:57:25 PM
Allyssa - Highkeep Lvl 11

Brenia - Highkeep Lvl 9 high elf sorcerer (good) Highkeep Circle Guild
Retalis - Crushbone Lvl 10 Shaman (good)
1491  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Everquest 2 - first impressions on: November 12, 2004, 12:28:55 PM
I'm in Highkeep right was one of the new servers they opened when the others went to medium and high status.  No lag at all...and not a lot of people on my server which is still nice.  I'm starting as a mage now and it seems like everybody I've seen is playing everything but a mage...something I don't know?  I played for hours and I was the only character casting spells (that I saw).
1492  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / EQ2 DVD Version for... on: November 12, 2004, 02:25:11 AM
It's also $39 at Best Buy and Target this week.
1493  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Hotmail finally upgraded on: November 11, 2004, 08:15:01 PM
Damn, now my account (which I've had for years) is wiped like a brand new one and I'm still at 2MB.  Thankfully I'm using gmail now so no big deal but it's still irritating.
1494  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Everquest 2 - first impressions on: November 11, 2004, 08:10:29 PM
Damn forum...I had no plans to get this.  Now it's installed and I'm getting ready to play for the first time.  Any CG guilds or preferred servers yet?
1495  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Everquest 2 - first impressions on: November 11, 2004, 11:47:28 AM
Olaf...the problem may be your ATI card.  Most new games seem to always have trouble with ATI cards when they come out especially if you're using the newest drivers.  I know some other people in the main forum have also complained (that have ATI) and it seems most people on here that have NVidia cards are loving it even with lower CPU/memory hardware.  Maybe some conflict or a ATI fix coming soon?
1496  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / [p] Ashcroft Resigns on: November 10, 2004, 09:07:57 PM
It would have to be Gonzales wouldn't it.  Could Bush make one important choice without fucking it up?  There has to be some other Texas friends he can pay off better suited than Gonzales.  Well I enjoyed my civil liberties while I had them...but I'm not counting on keeping them over the next 4 years.
1497  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Everquest 2 - first impressions on: November 10, 2004, 09:04:45 PM
Thanks for the posts Abaddon.  I've read through them so far but please use a few more paragraphs in there...those are some long paragraphs.  And keep away damn forum effect.  I feel my resolve weakening.
1498  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Last day for Blockbuster (gamerush) trade-in special on: November 10, 2004, 06:18:27 PM
This may be a YMMV unless it just started today.  I know certain parts of the country had a promotion to get $20 off if you traded 2 games in but it only applied to a list of "newer" games.  I was in mine in Charlotte yesterday when I bought the LE Halo 2 and they did not have this promotion running (I really wish they did).
1499  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Everquest 2 - first impressions on: November 10, 2004, 01:20:59 PM
I'm very tempted to get into this...but damn I don't think I have the time to make it worthwhile (or the money really).  I wish it was $10 a month or that the 90 day card was cheaper than buying 3 30 day cards.
1500  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Which hard drive to buy on: November 09, 2004, 05:27:22 PM
Most of the retail boxed hard drives have dropped to 1 year.  Many non retail WD drives have also dropped to 1 year.  After losing 2 Western Digital drives this year I'm avoiding them.  Maxtor just increased their non retail drives to 3 years and 5 years like Seagate.  All three are top names and seem to have about the same reliability...I've just had awful luck with WD myself.
1501  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Disneyland on the Cheap? on: November 09, 2004, 04:57:14 PM
I don't know about California but in Florida the Thanksgiving week is one of the busiest of the year.  In comparison it's almost deserted the week AFTER Thanksgiving.  I made the mistake of going Thanksgiving week last year to Orlando and everybody (it seems) was there...2 hour waits on every ride, horrible traffic, etc.  3 years ago I went the week after and it was so nice...walked on most rides with no wait, no crowds, much less traffic, etc.
1502  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / George RR Martins Latest Book on: November 07, 2004, 05:56:11 PM
Erikson is another great epic series...I could hardly get through the half of the first book.  By the time I finished it I had already ordered books 3 and 4 and started reading book 2 straight away.
1503  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Swapping my XBOX for Gamecube on: November 07, 2004, 05:50:07 PM
Why not get a used Gamecube and try it out.  If you shop around you could get Zelda used and a used gamecube for around $70 or even less...throw in another used game and a memory card and you're still under $100.
1504  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Issue at work on: November 06, 2004, 03:23:34 PM
I agree with Viggo.  You complained about the boss to the business manager who is probably friends with your boss.  Now your boss is pissed off and you are in the crosshairs.  Things like the presentation slipup....nothing except trouble they can document in your record when they try to get rid of you.  I would go to your HR dept (if you have one) immediately.  Show them the email, explain it was supposed to be confidential, throw an absolute fit it was told and then shown to your boss and explain what you're going through now.   As it is unless you're totally irreplacable you will probably be gone in a matter of months.
1505  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: October 28, 2004, 09:58:21 PM
Holy crap is that clown pic disturbing.
1506  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Longhorn on: October 28, 2004, 08:34:58 PM
I'll be trying it but not until it gets out of Alpha and into the Beta stage.  I am a little disappointed that the WinFS (Windows File System and replacement for Fat32 and NTFS) has been delayed and will not be released with Longhorn.  As usual the Microsoft site is the best for general information on it:
1507  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Nintendo files suit against fan...UPDATE apology issued. on: October 28, 2004, 08:31:22 PM
That site is very NSFW.  Not all of it is pay and there are a lot of pictures posted in the forums that aren't blocked (and many that are too).  

As for the lawsuit it's total BS.  This is not only a case where the judge should toss it out right away but should penalize Nintendo for filing a frivilous (and stupid) lawsuit and wasting the court's time.
1508  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Paper Mario 2 Impressions on: October 28, 2004, 08:28:46 PM
Well I guess enough people are loving it for me to keep it to eventually play.  I have to take a week off from gaming and put some more time into SA but I will be opening and keeping PM2.  Of course I was 90% sold just after watching the demo anyway smile
1509  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / GTA: SA Impressions on: October 28, 2004, 08:26:37 PM
I was thinking this morning I wished it had a walkman since I'm spending so much time on foot.  

I think the biggest thing is: if you didn't like or get into GTA3 or Vice City then you aren't going to get into SA.  If you liked the previous games you will probably like SA.  If you loved the previous two and aren't dead set on the 80's theme then you will likely love SA even more.
1510  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / GTA: SA Impressions on: October 28, 2004, 03:56:47 PM
Well after 5 hours or so I'm still giving it an A- or a strong B+.  I'm having fun with it, have no problems with the graphics at all and I think the map is fine if a little small (I do have a 32" TV using SVideo though and apparently that helps a great deal).  No brightness problems and I'm tempted to get the HD Loader to get rid of the indoor/outdoor load times.

Things I like:
A much bigger selection of songs and radio stations than I was expecting.
I can swim now (but no one else can *heh*)
Much harder to get multiple stars (the wanted level)
Motorcycles are much easier to drive now
The damn huge variety...everything is huge and something is going on everywhere

Things I don't like:
No mission replay (I understand it's a constant world and you're supposed to continue on if you fail the mission but...)
Early missions are hard until you get the controls and mechanics down
The gang AI with you is stupid.  I failed more than one mission because I was the only one to get out of the burning car.

Things some people may hate but I don't:
The graphics...they are PS2 and I expected that (helps I never played the PC versions)
The extensive foul language
The majority of the songs

Basically I thought I would hate this game and had no interest in it.  Read some previews and watched the commercials.  Got a good deal on it.  Now I'm really into it.  My favorite of the three so far and it helps that I will have it finished 6 months before any other system gets it.
1511  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Bah a Pox on you AT&T on: October 27, 2004, 10:27:45 PM
Yeah, I switched from AT&T to Verizon and while there have been a few problems Verizon's customer service is far and above the level I had with AT&T.  I don't even want to go into the AT&T credit cards...they're part of the reason companies like Capital One are taking off (and taking their customers).
1512  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Buying an and controller recs wanted on: October 27, 2004, 03:55:56 PM
I have the older heavy logitech wireless and it's great...rock solid and have never noticed any problems with button response or loose buttons/thumbsticks.

Right now is a great time for cheap games at Toys R Us...especially the newer ones still at $50 you have on your list.   The Blockbuster Gamerush stores also have a good selection of used XBox games and they're running a buy 1 get 1 50% off sale on all preowned as well...quick and easy way to pick up the ones not quite new (like Project Gotham Racing 2 and Crimson Skies for a total of $27.)
1513  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Serial Mouse on: October 27, 2004, 12:21:32 PM
I have a whole box of them but I couldn't send one until Nov 9 or so.  If you don't find one before then let me know and I'll get one to you.
1514  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Paper Mario 2 Impressions on: October 27, 2004, 12:18:40 PM
Ok, what happened?  Did anyone finish the game?  Did it stay as good or get better towards the end or did it fall flat?  Is it still anyone's RPG GOTY?  I bought it at the Toys R Us sale but haven't opened it yet.
1515  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / GTA: SA Impressions on: October 26, 2004, 08:21:28 PM
Yes, I got it today Toys R Us.  So now $50 for me...more like $33 (with 2 other $33 games as well) but still well worth it.

The only bad thing is I can't play it until tomorrow night frown  But I do have Thursday off smile
1516  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Need comp advice: urgent on: October 26, 2004, 01:52:19 PM
I've used Sparkle (SPI) and Antec and have had no problems with either.  They are both rock solid and dependable and the Antec is highly rated for home gaming use.  The Sparkle is used in a lot of server cases so it's long lived and also very stable.  If you get an Antec them make sure it's a "TRUE" model and not the cheaper model.   If you're getting a 6800 later on then I would go with a 430-500 watt at a minimum so you don't have to upgrade later...I have a TRUE430 and a 6800 GT and have no problems or voltage dips.
1517  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / DVD burning questions on: October 26, 2004, 12:14:12 PM
I had an Apex with the region free firmware and it worked much better after than it ever did right out of the box.  One problem may be the RW disc...I had problems in many commercial DVD players with DVDRW discs...either they don't play or don't play correctly.  Have you tried using a regular +R or -R disc and trying it?  Since it's already encoded you should just have to burn it again.  

BTW, more ram and a faster processor will speed up every part of authoring and encoding video and check for new software....there are many free alternatives that blow the doors off of Nero.
1518  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Onboard LAN question on: October 26, 2004, 12:04:17 PM
Have you tried using a different port on the linksys (if you have one of the broadband routers with the 4 port switches built in).  Have you tried a different ethernet cable to connect your computer to the linksys?  I've had problems where the plug on one end just wasn't making a good connection even though it looked like it was plugged in tight.  Have you checked on updated drivers for the NIC?  I know nvidia recently released new nforce unified drivers.  Also check the linksys firmware revision and update it if necessary.
1519  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Massive Thief 3 tweak and fix list on: October 26, 2004, 12:00:12 PM
This is from the main Eidos thread and it's very "comprehensive".  Could be very helpful for those of us still playing or anyone who is going to start back if/when they release the editor tools.


This thread for FIXES Only

Here is a link to ION that has solutions for some bugs. I will post others as they appear.

Link to TTLG Tweaks and fixes:
Please! No questions here.


Make a backup of the original file. The easy way is to:
Rename the original to XXX.OLD.
Open the renamed file in NOTEPAD.
SAVE THE EDITED FILE WITH SAVEAS, Use the original file name (XXX.INI) for example.
You will now have XXX.INI and XXX.OLD in the folder. If your change does not work or causes additional problems just bring the OLD file back into NOTEPAD, then SAVE it with SAVEAS (original name) and it will overwrite your edited file back to normal.

You might also "FORCE" a restore point. Open Control Panel>Performance and Maintenance Upper left of screen RESTORE.

If you manually make a RESTORE POINT before you make major changes, you can call this point back to reset your system
Drivers and Software Updates

You may find help with hardware or device driver problems on one of the websites maintained by the supplier, some of which are listed below:

3D Labs
ATI Technologies
Creative Labs
Microsoft DirectX

More information is available from Eidos' technical support web sites:

United Kingdom:
United States
and North America:

Further technical information and drivers for Windows computers can be found at
Use Task Manager to stop any app listed.

Use Disc Cleaner from the Accessories menu and clean your system. Kill screensavers and any active Virus program before starting installation.

UNPLUG ALL GAMEPADS AND JOYSTICKS Do not reconnect while playing game.
Info so far:

Possible 98/ME fix

This is a problem with the t3main.exe. The fix will only take away the Icon from the executable (Gameplay is not effected at all).

Windows 98/ME can only use resource IDs that are 32556 or lower (few exceptions). This executable has a Group Icon ID of 46022. The Icon isn't needed. This is how to fix it (it works on patch 1.1 as well):

1. make a copy of T3Main.exe.
2. Get and install PE Explorer from the internet (Search on the internet for it).
3. Open the T3Main.exe in PE Explorer.
4. Go to Resources in the View menu.
5. (You'll notice in the Group Icon folder a number 46022) you can't delete it from there. Delete the "Icon Entry" folder to do that.
6. Save.

This will remove the Icon from the file. You don't need an Icon to play the game.

If the game CTDs while loading after the intro movies then use the install fix by copying the CDs to your hard drive and installing from there.

This should get you into the game, after that you are on your own.

Installation problems? Try this:
Here is the solution for the installation problems (This most likely works on the Windows XP installation failures too).

Go ahead and install from the cds or hard drive (I used the copy the cd to your hard drive technique on my test beds).

Once you are done go to the game folder (whatever you named it or "Thief - Deadly Shadows" if you left it at the default installation)

In that exists a file called "user.ini" when you open the file it should have nothing in it and a size of 0 kb.

cut and paste this into it and save, then run the game and see what happens

[Source Control]

By the way be sure to use the patch 1.1 which is just a new t3main.exe and you can just remove the icon and it works too.

This problem may not only be a windows 98/ME problem, but this fixes mine every time I load the game and it CTDs at the "Loading" screen.

works. Good luck.

Additional W98 info

Okay new update: Those lines in the user.ini file all appear in the default.ini file located in the Thief - Deadly Shadows\System folder, except that the line "LoadFromResourceBlockFiles=True"
(as shown by TBIRDMANN in his post) was by default set to False in the default.ini, so just change it to true like TBIRDMANN has shown. Now it won't crash after the intros anymore.

Thanks for your help TBIRDMANN and I hope this works for other people as well.

Can't change controls

possible solution
Unplug gamepads and Joysticks.

There is no Mouse sensitivity setting in the Options menu. The only work around I can think of is to browse to the Thief – Deadly Shadows install folder (C:\program files\Thief – Deadly Shadows\System) and open up the DEFAULT.INI file. Press Ctrl + F and search for “sensitivity.” The following line will appear:


The value can be changed to add or decrease sensitivity options as needed. I find 75 to be very good. On a side note, be sure to back up your DEFAULT.INI in case of any problems that arise from changes.

Wrong disc or drive error

Map change cancels Multi-Sampling
from default.ini

set to False
Corrupt EXE file Error

If you are running W98/me/2000 and installed T3 and get this error.
"The C:\program files\thief-deadly shadows\system\T3.exe file appears to be corrupt.
Reinstall the file, and try again" and then tried to install XP. And got the same error: Re-install after you install XP.

Choppy Movies

More Choppy Movie

Search in the default.ini for: [PCStartup]


Set to false to kill them all.

List of movies for individual editing


Before installing:
Use DISK CLEANER to empty all TEMP and other unnecessary files.

Kill VIRUS apps that are running.


Use TASK MANAGER to stop all unnecessary background tasks.

Possible install solution
NOTE: This has been said to work with LAPTOPS also

First, go into my computer, C drive, and then right click a empty spot and select new (making a new folder) name it what you want.. such as theif3.

Then, insert disc 1 and cancel anything that pop's up, then go into My computer, and right click on the drive theif3 is in. Select open then drag a box around all the files in there and select "Copy" then go back to that new folder you made for theif3 open it up and right click and select "paste" wait a short time while those are being copied to that new folder.

Then when that finishes, take out disc 1 and put in disc 2, then do the same thing here, right click on data3 or what ever that's there i forget then go back to youre theif 3 folder you made, right click a empty area, select paste, wait a bit, then when that's done, take out disc2 then put in disc 3, copy the data4 file, and paste it in that theif folder you made.

After everything is copied to that folder... double click the theif3.exe and that will start the installation.. which should! finish this time. If a panel shows with "no disc inserted" put in disc1 and enjoy.

Number 2 possible install fix
Install asks for the "thief3_1" disc after switch to disc 2.
When switching discs, use the "my computer" window to eject the disc (not the button on the cd drive), and then hold down the left shift key so it does not try to autorun as you put in the next disc.

Resolution too high and freezes

If your Resolution is set too high in the game, and you can't change it back because the game got EXTREMELY fuzzy then follow these directions:

You can change it by first finding this folder, should be here - C:\Documents and Settings\PC\My Documents\Thief - Deadly Shadows\SaveGames\User Options -, open the options file (should be the only file you see) like the 12th line down will be "RESOLUTION=4" change it to "RESOLUTION=2" Save the file and start up your game. Should be all good.
Running on Server 2003

Right-click the Thief 3 shortcut on your desktop (or, alternately, the t3.exe file in the system folder), choose Properties. Click the Compatibility tab, then enable "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" and choose Windows XP.

Control Menu
IN the menu interfaces, using the mouse on the little up and down arrows should not go to the end or the beginning of the scrolled content instantly, (the equivalent of CTRL-Home and CTRL-End). Rather this action should scroll up or down screen by screen.

Workaround: Use mouse wheel on these screens, or grab the scroll indicator and drag it s l o w l y.

More on Control screen

If you start just below the up arrow and click the first slash mark it will page down once, then click the next one and it will page down again. You can page one page at a time through the whole options selection window. You can page backwards and forwards using those slash marks.

Walk/Run mod
annoyed at having to hold shift to walk, there are two current work arounds. The first is to edit the options.ini:

In options.ini (located in the Thief sub folder within My Documents):

1) Replace current key bindings with:
W=MoveForwardBackward 0.500000 (this changes the Run movement forward rate to half)
S=MoveForwardBackward -0.500000 (Same for going backward)
2) Adjust the strafe rates if desired the same way

Save options.ini

Now open default.ini in the main Thief 3 folder
Change WalkMultiplyer from 0.5 to 2.0.

Now save default.ini- you should be good to go!

OR: stay in a permanent crouch. This slows the speed down.

Binding keys to walk forward / run forward / etc
Contributed by NoCoolAlias

Here's how to make "S" bind to "Walk forward" and "W" to "Run forward" (plus change "X" to "Walk backwards" and "F" to "Crouch") :

Open "C:My Documents\Thief - Deadly Shadows\SaveGames\User Options\options.ini"

The key is the "MoveForwardBackward" command.
By default, the keys are set as follows:

S=MoveForwardBackward -1.000000
W=MoveForwardBackward 1.000000

To match the original Thief bindings, do

S=MoveForwardBackward 0.500000
W=MoveForwardBackward 1.000000
X=MoveForwardBackward -1.000000

And since "X" was the default "Crouch" key, you'll probably need to change F to

The animations do work correctly. However, the "Creep" and "Walk" keys ("Ctrl" and "Shift" by default) are a little odd: they do not multiply the speed by a fraction, they directly change it to a new one.
So with the new bindings, "S" and "Shift+S" are exactly the same speed (1/2 speed), and "Ctrl+S" and "Ctrl+W" are both the same speed (1/3 speed).

Frame Rate tweak
Vsync should be turned off in this game. Doing so will give you a huge boost in frame rate.

This is because frame rate in this game, with vsync on, is limited to a fraction of your refresh rate. If your monitor's refresh rate is set to 85hz, then your frame rate will either be 85, 42, 28, 21, etc. So if you would have gotten a frame rate of 60, it will only be 42. If you would have gotten 41, it will only be 28.

Collection Of Tweaks/tips For Better Playability

Stolen from KOMAGb


* for perfect zoom vision

* for finer (less crappy) zoom "noise": (must leave the above "true")
NoiseMin_X=14.0 (or 21)
NoiseMin_Y=14.0 (or 21)
NoiseMax_X=28.0 (or 42)
NoiseMax_Y=28.0 (or 42)

*for shorting time you have to push on large objects to move them:


In T3PlayerAnims.ini

* for no more view bob:
find "-- NORMAL GROUND MOVEMENT --" section
change all [Forward1] through [Forward6]

* for faster leaning:
change all [LeanLeftStart] through [LeanRightEndCrouching]

* for faster picking up/dumping bodies
find "-- BODY CARRY --" section
change in [BodyCarryBend] section
Speed=1.5 (or 2.0)
also, change in [BodyCarryRelease] section
Speed=2.0 (or 2.5)

Change font size
Contributed by Mentalepsy
If you think the font size for your objectives and the "Tips" on the loading screens are grotesquely huge, you can change them. Open DEFAULT.INI and change this line under the [FontMappings] header:

'Papyrus14__tp=Papyrus_21,0.81,0.80' to

Changing 0.81 to 0.61 (or any other decimal value) will scale down the font size. This will affect load screen tips, your notes and objectives, the help screen you get from right-clicking on your equipment, and confirmation dialogue boxes ("Are you sure you want to quit?").

Modifying Papyrus12 affects the size of dialogue subtitles and the size of the text that appears below your item or weapon icon when you select it:

'Papyrus12__tp=Papyrus_21,0.61,0.80' to
'Papyrus12__tp=Papyrus_21,0.50,0.80', for example.
Disable loadscreen tips
Contributed by Mentalepsy

"Stealth tip: Your opponents will search for you if they get suspicious. Avoid them, and they might not catch you."

The "Safe Way"
If you want to turn off those oh-so-helpful "tips" that show up on the loading screens, go to Thief 3 -> CONTENT -> T3 -> Books -> English -> HelpText.sch. Open this file in Notepad, and simply change all the English strings from "Tip: don't let guards see you!" to "", an empty string (two consecutive quote marks). Voila, no more loadscreen tips.

The "Easy Way"
Just erase the entire file. Don't delete the file, but delete all the text inside it. I'm pretty sure this is safe, as I haven't encountered any problems, but make sure you have the original HelpText.sch file just in case. This is much, much faster than the "Safe Way."

NOTE: Deleting the strings from HelpText.sch only disables the tips, such as "Put out torches with water arrows" or "Guards will hear you if you run across metal." The flavor text- quotes from Hammerite chants and so forth- is NOT affected by this tweak. They will still show up, but they will appear partway through the loading process, then disappear. See the "Loadscreen displays ONLY flavor text" tweak to fix this.

Alternately, you can replace these tips with your own, or with flavor text from the first two games.

Disable loadscreen FLAVOR text
Contributed by Mentalepsy

"There is nothing as promising as the opening of a book. There is nothing as final as its shutting. - Keeper Scribe Lessons, Part 4"

If you want to remove the flavor text that appears on the load screens, repeat the above process with Thief 3 -> CONTENT -> T3 -> Books -> English -> String_Tags -> Quotes.sch. However, you'll have to replace each quote with a " " (a space) instead of an empty string, or you'll get a message about having no messages to display. NOTE: Removing these quotes may cause you to miss out on certain details of the story, so keep this in mind.

Loadscreen displays ONLY flavor text
Contributed by Mentalepsy
For those who like the flavor text, you can set it so that the load screen displays ONLY flavor text, displays only one per load screen, and displays it the entire time the load screen is up. This is a good option for people who want the flavor text, but not the tips.

Go to DEFAULT.INI and scroll down to the very bottom where it says [HelpText]. Make the following changes:


Now whenever the load screen appears, you'll just see one of the quotes from Quotes.sch. Note that unless you clear the HelpText.sch file as mentioned above, you'll still see a tip pop up at the very beginning of the load screen- when the screen has appeared, but the load bar hasn't yet started moving. If you don't like the help text, I recommend clearing HelpText.sch manually. Again, flavor text is contained in Quotes.sch, hints and tips are contained in HelpText.sch.
Slight perfomance boost.
CacheSizeMegs= X

Change CacheSizeMegs= X TO 80% of your ram

Mine is CacheSizeMegs= 350 (from 512 mb ram)

Works on all UT engine based games.

One person noticed a performance boost by just entering 16. The default is set to 1.

Fix for the Save/Level Bug

Definitive Temporary Solution For The "bug"!
Crash on start of game with a QS

If you start a game and try to load a QS and get a CTD or lockup, then restart the game, select a regular save. Start the mission, ESC to menu, select LOAD and then load your QS.

This seems to bypass the bug that is causing an immediate crash on the start of play where you select a QS as your beginning point.
1520  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Thief 3 'out of range' on my resoultion. How do I fix it? on: October 26, 2004, 11:57:34 AM
Resolution too high and freezes fix:

If your Resolution is set too high in the game, and you can't change it back because the game got EXTREMELY fuzzy then follow these directions:

You can change it by first finding this folder, should be here - C:\Documents and Settings\PC\My Documents\Thief - Deadly Shadows\SaveGames\User Options -, open the options file (should be the only file you see) like the 12th line down will be "RESOLUTION=4" change it to "RESOLUTION=2" Save the file and start up your game. Should be all good.
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