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1  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: March 01, 2014, 01:19:38 AM
Please, quoting actual things AA says is against his rules of debating with him.  
2  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Uganda president set to sign anti-gay bill into law on: February 27, 2014, 05:11:30 AM

Quote from: TiLT on February 25, 2014, 09:11:09 PM

I know that at least Denmark and Norway have already cut some economic aid to the country, and we are threatening to cut more, instead channeling the money to local Ugandan organizations working for democracy and human rights. No ruler can keep power without money, as this guy might soon discover.

I read somewhere that they have discovered oil deposits and will start shipping oil very soon, so money might not be as much of an issue for him anymore.
3  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 25, 2014, 10:11:58 PM

Quote from: hepcat on February 25, 2014, 03:19:20 PM

We're still struggling with basic rights for minorities in this country, so I'm not naive enough to think that gay rights are going to be universally accepted as the right thing.  I was just making an off the cuff remark that reflects where I'd love to see this country (and the world) go someday.

Edit:  This is my favorite defense of the bill:

Quote
"This bill has nothing to do with discrimination. It's protecting basic freedoms that belong to everyone," she said, explaining that it would protect a gay photographer's decision not to work for Westboro Baptist Church, or Muslims who don't want to sell "pork sandwiches on a Saturday."

I wasn't aware pork was a legally enforced mandatory item on menus in every restaurant in America.  I also wasn't aware that freelancers had to take every job offered to them. 

Kellie Fiedorek, the woman who uttered the above quote, claims to be an attorney.  A diploma written in crayon can't be legal though, right?

Just to give some basis behind one of the quotes, people have been sued for refusing to photograph or provide other services to a gay wedding.   I don't agree with people who do that, but there is at least some basis for that comment being made.
4  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: on: February 25, 2014, 04:05:25 AM

Quote from: Caine on February 25, 2014, 02:37:50 AM

Please tell me you guys aren't taking AA seriously.   He's writing in the Onion's style of snark and sarcasm.

He is 100% serious in what he writes.
5  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 25, 2014, 01:12:53 AM
Way to double down there AA.   Glad my impression of what you said was 100% correct.
6  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 24, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
Fireball you have called me evil and other such wonderful terms for being a conservative for many years over different boards.   So how you feel is clear to me.
7  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 24, 2014, 06:47:45 PM
I guess my point here is that AA, fireball and others here love to point out how evil all conservatives are and how every bad thing that ever happens in this country is the fault of all conservatives.   Its bullshit and needs to be called out when they do it.

There are many conservatives, myself included, who don't support this anti gay bullshit like this bill, and as I said have fought against such bills in other states (Kansas for example).
8  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Arizona passes controversial anti-gay bill on: February 24, 2014, 02:45:45 AM
Yes AA all conservatives are evil and want laws like this to pass, I guess that is why a similar bill in Kansas was defeated in large part because of two major conservative groups speaking out against it.    I know you wont be able to comprehend that but hopefully others won't get caught up in your conservative=evil agenda.
9  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ted Cruz: The Alienator on: February 18, 2014, 10:19:23 PM
I agree the debt ceiling vote should be something that is automatic, but the CRs?     Hell no, we need to cut spending at the federal level and the votes to actually spend the money is where those fights need to be made.
10  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ted Cruz: The Alienator on: February 17, 2014, 02:24:14 PM

Quote from: Mystic95Z on February 17, 2014, 12:13:37 PM

Edited and replaced with stupid, or is that to harsh for you guys too???

Nice job keeping it there for anyone to see and the passive aggressive 'apology' for using the word in the first place.
11  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ted Cruz: The Alienator on: February 16, 2014, 11:31:36 PM

Quote from: Lee on February 16, 2014, 06:51:51 PM

Meh, it's a word, it only has as much meaning as you let it.

That can be said about any insulting word or description of any race, sexual orientation.....      So why even go down that path?
12  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Ted Cruz: The Alienator on: February 16, 2014, 03:08:45 PM

Quote from: Mystic95Z on February 16, 2014, 02:42:36 PM

Also gotta love the retards that voted that clown into office....  @#$(*&%

It would be nice if you did not use such a hateful and disgusting term in your response there.
13  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amazon Prime price hike coming? on: February 10, 2014, 07:21:38 PM

Quote from: Lee on February 10, 2014, 03:12:37 PM

I have been saying how Amazon has always been on time if not early for me and the rest of you are just unlucky. So of course this weekend Fedex didn't deliver something on Saturday because of a winter storm in the Pacific NW. There was no storm, and the package was coming from CA. I am not going to complain to Amazon though, they rarely use Fedex, thankfully, and maybe the weather was bad somewhere in the chain. I always have terrible luck with Fedex.

There was some type of bad weather in the area, I work for an airline that uses a lot of Alaska air flights in that area and a bunch of them cancelled due to weather issues and I got yelled at by a bunch of passengers stuck in Portland and other airports in the area.
14  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Marijuana. Just watched a documentary. on: February 05, 2014, 06:55:52 AM
http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/hsn/fatal-car-crashes-involving-pot-use-have-tripled-in-u-s-study-finds

But remember everyone, pot has never harmed anyone ever.

15  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Signing up for Obamacare on: January 27, 2014, 09:54:43 PM
I hope you are wrong with that, single payer government run health care would be an absolute disaster for most americans.   The insurance I have now is excellent insurance and costs far less then the massive taxes that would be needed to pay for single payer coverage.   It would be the same for a majority of americans.   And if you try to tell me that we will get pay increases from not having employers paying for coverage that will make up for that I will have to laugh for about 3 days at the absurdity of such a statement.   Companies will cut the coverage and keep the savings for profit, that is what companies do.
16  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Duck Dynasty on: December 23, 2013, 10:54:34 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on December 23, 2013, 12:30:34 PM

Quote from: The Atlantic
Tolerance is not the same thing as acceptance, and acceptance is not the same thing as an endorsement. The message A&Es decision sends is that there is zero tolerance on television for Christians who are conscientious objectors to homosexuality. More than that, it implicitly suggests that the campaign for tolerance has advanced to a campaign to pressure 45 percent of Americans to recant their beliefs and endorse a lifestyle to which they are opposed, conscience be damned.


A&E did a quick cost-benefit analysis and concluded that publicly distancing themselves from Robertson was less costly than catering to the ever-shrinking percentage of people who agree with him.  That's not zero-tolerance political correctness -- it's capitalism.

-Autistic Angel

So losing the show over this will somehow make them more money?  Interesting concept you have there.
17  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Bachmann Considers Suing Obama Over Canceled Plans Fix on: November 26, 2013, 06:04:11 AM

Quote from: Lee on November 25, 2013, 08:49:53 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 22, 2013, 07:49:12 PM

Quote from: raydude on November 22, 2013, 01:29:58 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 22, 2013, 12:35:05 AM

And we should just then forget his 'fix' was something completely against the law?

And yet another example of how 'you can't win for losing'. Is there any particular scenario where Obama can do something about Obamacare where you won't get outraged? Short of repealing the thing entirely?

Nice dodging there.   I am most outraged that he simply felt he could just ignore and violate the law with his 'fix'.    Its sad that his supporters like you just don't care about that.

As for what to do about Obamacare..... its a bad law in its entirety, there are some good ideas that could be kept but the whole individual mandate is what I have the biggest problem with.

Well you can thank your precious republicans for the way the bill turned out.

They sure as hell aren't my republicans, I haven't voted for a single one of them in any election.
18  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The "No Next-Gen Console" Support Group on: November 25, 2013, 06:45:03 AM
The last console I bought was a used PS2 so I will forever be in this group as I just don't think the damn things are worth it while I have a computer to play games on.
19  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Harry Reid Leaning Toward Filibuster Reform Vote This Week on: November 23, 2013, 04:24:12 AM
You don't need to wait that long, the Dems could lose the Senate in 2014.
20  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Harry Reid Leaning Toward Filibuster Reform Vote This Week on: November 22, 2013, 07:52:27 PM

Quote from: Scraper on November 22, 2013, 05:06:58 PM

That's great but what are the Dems going to do when Republicans hold the majority? I suspect they will be asking themselves WTF were we thinking?

They will use the lame duck session before they actually lose control to put the rule back in.
21  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Bachmann Considers Suing Obama Over Canceled Plans Fix on: November 22, 2013, 07:49:12 PM

Quote from: raydude on November 22, 2013, 01:29:58 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on November 22, 2013, 12:35:05 AM

And we should just then forget his 'fix' was something completely against the law?

And yet another example of how 'you can't win for losing'. Is there any particular scenario where Obama can do something about Obamacare where you won't get outraged? Short of repealing the thing entirely?

Nice dodging there.   I am most outraged that he simply felt he could just ignore and violate the law with his 'fix'.    Its sad that his supporters like you just don't care about that.

As for what to do about Obamacare..... its a bad law in its entirety, there are some good ideas that could be kept but the whole individual mandate is what I have the biggest problem with.
22  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Bachmann Considers Suing Obama Over Canceled Plans Fix on: November 22, 2013, 12:35:05 AM
And we should just then forget his 'fix' was something completely against the law?
23  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Toronto Mayor Rob Ford - the Pure Embodiment of Political Nonsense! on: November 09, 2013, 04:00:59 AM

Quote from: Lee on November 08, 2013, 05:59:02 PM

How does a guy like this even get elected? His personality seems to be revolting from the interviews I have seen and he looks like someone I wouldn't even allow to pump gas into my car, let alone elect for any major office. Was he thin and charismatic at some point?

Why would his being thin at some point matter to anything here?
24  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: November 06, 2013, 05:01:51 PM

Quote from: Freezer-TPF- on November 06, 2013, 02:51:06 PM

Well put, AA.

Thank you for posting the funniest thing I have seen on this site in months.    I needed a good laugh.
25  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: What will Obama's Scandals Be? on: October 30, 2013, 03:42:16 PM

Quote from: raydude on October 30, 2013, 03:28:46 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 30, 2013, 01:17:08 PM

You are also going to lose your plan if it is too good, as it then is one of the 'cadillac' plans that is going to be taxed out of existence.     Obamacare is a complete disaster and people are finally waking up to that fact.

Whew! Thank goodness I don't make enough to afford one of those 'cadillac' plans. Must be nice to have all that dough though.

Actually most of those plans are things that employees negotiated for wanting better health coverage in exchange for smaller wage increases.   But I wish someone could explain to me why we should both punish people for not having insurance or for having what the government considers to be too good of insurance.
26  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: What will Obama's Scandals Be? on: October 30, 2013, 01:17:08 PM
You are also going to lose your plan if it is too good, as it then is one of the 'cadillac' plans that is going to be taxed out of existence.     Obamacare is a complete disaster and people are finally waking up to that fact.
27  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PC] Galactic Civilizations III on: October 21, 2013, 05:21:43 PM
Fallen enchantress legendary heroes came after elemental and is a very good game, so to me they have already redeemed themselves from what happened with Elemental.     Ill be getting this when it comes out without any reservations.
28  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 21, 2013, 03:46:16 PM
You are dreaming if you think employers who drop health coverage are going to give all the money they paid for insurance back to the employees to do the exact same job they were doing before.   It just isn't going to happen.    Also many very large companies like where I work are self insured, so there isn't some set price they pay to another company each month for our coverage.    They just pay for health care costs directly from company funds.
 
29  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 21, 2013, 04:58:26 AM

Yes that is exactly what I said, word for word, you must be taking lessons from AA on making things up.
30  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 21, 2013, 04:15:57 AM

Quote from: Lee on October 21, 2013, 04:03:13 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 21, 2013, 02:03:25 AM

Id like to know where you all live that the economy is so great that a person can just quit a job and have another one just sitting there for them to take.    

The economy has been bad for quite awhile, how many pay cuts have you had?

You should be happy that there is a choice now Brett, before if your company cut your healthcare, with your pre-existing condition you would have nothing since no insurance company would take you. Now if that happens, you will have something, it will just cost you more.

I was out of work for almost 2 years, I would call that a pretty drastic pay cut.

As for the last part I wouldn't have a choice to make as I would be getting fined for not having insurance as there was not a single plan I saw on the exchange I could afford.
31  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 21, 2013, 03:28:50 AM

Quote from: Ironrod on October 21, 2013, 02:45:51 AM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on October 21, 2013, 12:30:33 AM

But why would the employees put up with that?

My employer just flirted with no longer providing insurance premium support for staff, and it was clear the result would have been a mass exodus of older and more experienced employees.

If I were the CEO of a big company, I'd drop the health plan, give my employees 80-90% of the money I was spending on their insurance, and pocket the rest to cover the ACA's fines for not providing health insurance. I'd be very happy to get out of the insurance business and I doubt that very many employees would jump ship when they saw their paychecks go up -- especially if the practice becomes widespread and eventually normal.

Once upon a time, not so long ago, we scoffed at the idea that companies would end their pension plans. I can see health insurance going the same way.

Then we all get to wait months for 'non essential' surgury like happens in countries with single payer goverment provided health care.   Not a system I would care to be a part of.
32  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 21, 2013, 02:03:25 AM
Id like to know where you all live that the economy is so great that a person can just quit a job and have another one just sitting there for them to take.   
33  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 21, 2013, 12:26:34 AM
Nope they don't have to give an extra cent to any employee if they no longer supply health insurance.
34  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 20, 2013, 05:19:09 PM

Quote from: TiLT on October 20, 2013, 05:03:43 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 20, 2013, 04:17:54 PM

Am I wrong to think that this program is for people who don't have employers that compensate health insurance? You should have a better program through work, it's a perk they give in order to keep their employees happy and to lure new hires.

Getting rid of that "benefit" that employers use to keep actual salaries down is one of the many steps the USA needs to take to have a health system that makes sense. If companies start dropping health insurance benefits without compensating with an increased salary, they're going to lose their best people. It's a self-correcting process.

There are occasional high-end jobs over here too where you get health care benefits, but they take a different form and are much smaller in impact. I've got a pretty good one (one that took me by surprise when I was employed at my current job since I had never encountered such benefits before) where I can get special deals on eye examinations and a guarantee that I'll never have to wait more than 2 months for an operation, and so on. It's a very minor part of the total package I was offered to work there, yet still an unusually good one for Norwegian workplaces. We have free health care over here anyway, so there's not much actual value that can be offered above and beyond that.

To me it seems not having to wait forever to get treated is a damn big benefit.  
35  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 20, 2013, 05:17:52 PM
And many many more people will be entering those ranks as companies discontinue their health insurance.    If that was to happen to me I would be completely screwed.   I don't have the extra money to pay more for crappier insurance.
36  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Healthcare Exchanges Are Live. How's it Looking For You? on: October 20, 2013, 03:59:02 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on October 20, 2013, 01:27:46 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 06, 2013, 07:45:41 PM

One of my Tea Party friends posted this morning on FB that the ACA will cost her family $14,400 more per year than what they are currently paying.  Bookended with a "Thanks Obama", of course.

I'm sorely tempted to throw the bullshit flag...


Were you ever able to extract any more details about this claim? 


Fox News' Sean Hannity did a segment about a week ago "exposing" the terrible costs ObamaCare piles onto the helpless citizenry.  The problem?  It turns out the three all-American couples Hannity chose to share their stories were either lying or being pridefully ignorant of the law, and Fox assumed no one would conduct follow up interviews to fact check their claims.

OOPS!

Quote from: Salon.com
First I spoke with Paul Cox of Leicester, N.C.  He and his wife Michelle had lamented to Hannity that because of Obamacare, they cant grow their construction business and they have kept their employees below a certain number of hours, so that they are part-timers.

Obamacare has no effect on businesses with 49 employees or less. But in our brief conversation on the phone, Paul revealed that he has only four employees. Why the cutback on his workforce? Well, he said, I havent been forced to do so, its just that Ive chosen to do so. I have to deal with increased costs. What costs? And how, I asked him, is any of it due to Obamacare? There was a long pause, after which he said hed call me back. He never did.




Read the whole article.  The second story is particularly striking: a brettmcd-esque tale of a family that loves their existing health insurance plan even though it won't cover their daughter due to a preexisting condition, and is really angry about being forced into a plan that will cover everyone.  The catch?  They don't know the new plan will be a lot *less* expensive because they haven't bothered to look.

Fox sets out to highlight how badly ObamaCare is hurting average Americans and goes 0-3 on finding anyone in the country to help make that case.  They earnestly *believe* they're being hurt though, so that's practically the same thing.

-Autistic Angel

Wow AA there you go again.   Comparing me to something I have never said and what is exactly the opposite of my situation.   Again, I currently have a plan that will cost me much less then anything Obamacare offers AND covers me with the preexisting condition I have.   But keep making stuff up you think I have said and shoving my name into situations that have no bearing to ANYTHING I have said.
37  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHUTDOWN!!!!!! Sequel is in the works, slated for Q1 2014 release on: October 19, 2013, 04:26:59 AM

Quote from: Lee on October 19, 2013, 01:40:36 AM

Quote from: Purge on October 19, 2013, 01:37:09 AM

I think Brettmcd just agreed with you guys on the methods being wrong. What else were you looking for?

The part where he dogged on Obama for no reason. Thought it was out of place with his other comments.

No not for no reason, a recurring theme with Obama is that he thinks the opposition should just shut up and do what he wants.   Also on this specific issue he is a massive hypocrite, as when he was a senator and Bush was president he said this.

Quote
The fact that we're here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means 'The buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit.

But now that he is president things are of course different and people who opposed raising the debt ceiling are terrorists and all that.
38  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 18, 2013, 11:10:05 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 18, 2013, 11:01:53 PM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 18, 2013, 02:23:27 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 18, 2013, 03:10:41 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 18, 2013, 12:45:57 AM

Well in our system of government they HAVE won enough elections to control part of government.

So that means it is no longer majority rules? I understand what you are saying, but winning the House doesn't mean they can just do as they wish. Anyway, the House seemed to be frozen by inaction after a few members that the majority did not support  went nuts because they didn't want to go against their own party. In the end the House decided not to vote because the vote wouldn't go the way of the vocal few.

No it means if Obama wants his policies to be passed with no questioning and no opposition his side needs to win more elections.   Until that happens he can't just get whatever he wants 100% of the time.

I don't understand why you think he does. Healthcare reform was already compromised on and voted into law. What happened in the last 2 weeks is not how things should be done just because they couldn't get their way. But we have gone over this over and over in this thread. If tables were reversed and the dems did this you would scream foul. I have yet to see the Dems go that far though.

You obviously haven't read any of this thread then I have said over and over the tactics being used by the republicans are wrong and they should never have been playing chicken with the world economy like they did.    The overall goal, to repeal Obamacare, is a good one as it is in most parts a horrible plan, but there are legitimate ways to try and reach that goal, the ways they tried this time are not ones that should ever be used.
39  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 18, 2013, 02:23:27 PM

Quote from: Lee on October 18, 2013, 03:10:41 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on October 18, 2013, 12:45:57 AM

Well in our system of government they HAVE won enough elections to control part of government.

So that means it is no longer majority rules? I understand what you are saying, but winning the House doesn't mean they can just do as they wish. Anyway, the House seemed to be frozen by inaction after a few members that the majority did not support  went nuts because they didn't want to go against their own party. In the end the House decided not to vote because the vote wouldn't go the way of the vocal few.

No it means if Obama wants his policies to be passed with no questioning and no opposition his side needs to win more elections.   Until that happens he can't just get whatever he wants 100% of the time.
40  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: [USA] SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN!!!!!! Exclusive DLC 'The Ceiling' coming soon! on: October 18, 2013, 12:45:57 AM
Well in our system of government they HAVE won enough elections to control part of government.
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