Let's call Logan's future sentinel world consciousness LC2. His 1973 consciousness is LC1. In reality, they're both the same consciousness, just at different points on the timeline.
When LC2 goes back in time, it displaces LC1 temporarily. Logan stops the sentinels. Future is changed. LC2 is sent "back to the future." As soon as LC2 is sent back, LC1 resumes, this time in a different changed world. LC1 continues to exist up to the point that it turns into LC2 - ie, the instant LC2 snaps back into the future.
That is why Logan is aware of the sentinel future, but not the 50 years prior. He lived as LC1 up to the point LC2 snapped back in. That's my take on it anyway.
The key concept you have to accept is that changing the future changes everything in the universe EXCEPT the consciousness of the individual doing the time traveling. However, this was stated pretty clearly upfront, so I have no problem rolling with it.
1. What's with Charles being able to talk to his future/past self while reading Wolverine's mind? Made no sense.
Wolverine's consciousness was sent into the past. However, there is still some link between that consciousness and Wolverine's physical future self (we know this because when he gets agitated in the past his body gets agitated in the future.) His brain is essentially a bridge between the past and future - the conscious in the past, the unconscious in the future, but still one whole. Past Charles simply exploited this link to communicate to future Charles - they were both essentially reading the same "mind."
I'm a little scared about the review embargo, but it doesn't always mean bad things. I read an article where they took like 8 games with launch day embargoes and tallied whether they wound up good or bad. The end score was 3 bad, 5 good I think. Not definitive in and of itself, but sometimes the embargo is just to prevent spoilers. The big pre-order push combined with the embargo certainly has me on edge, however.
I also have no problem canceling my pre-order. I'm prepared to cancel it even if the game gets positive but not great reviews. I've got enough on my plate without paying $60 for mediocrity.
This is one instance I was glad I wasn't up on my X-Men comic book history. I went in cold (other than having seen the other X-Men movies), and absolutely loved it. I agree that it was probably the best X-Men film, and probably one of the best superhero films, in terms of story, since The Dark Knight.
Well, Microsoft sent me an email that my $10 credit was about to expire, so I pulled the trigger on Child of Light as well. Ouch! Didn't plan on buying two new games before Watch Dogs but the damage is done, I guess. At least I'll have something to play on all three systems.
I bit the bullet on Van Helsing II. It was between that and Transistor, but I went with Van Helsing since it's PC exclusive. I will pick up Transistor eventually, but probably on PS4.
Figured Van Helsing II would be the perfect Steam streaming game to play on the laptop. I've also been really jonesing for that Diablo 3 expansion, so this should take the edge off my action-RPG cravings.
I've tried to end it like four times now and you keep resurrecting it. It's almost comical at this point. You want it ended? Consider it ended (for the fourth or fifth time).
To everyone else, I've put TiLT on my ignore list since he seems to be unwilling to do the same for me. Hopefully this will eliminate the drama. Let's get back to the game discussion, and I apologize that the thread got derailed.
I will, however, state that from screenshots/videos I've seen across a wide variety of games, the PS titles (particularly the darker scenes) tend to look a little more muted and washed out. That's all I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to start a console war or push anyone's buttons. This perception is probably due to the crushed blacks or whatever, but again, it's just personal opinion. It doesn't stop me from buying PS games or enjoying PS games, and I understand that on a technical level that the PS color is more accurate.
I am no longer going to respond to trolls. I think anyone with an ounce of common sense can see who the true instigator in this thread was. Once again I tried to steer the conversation back to the game, and once again TiLT continues with the attacks. I've tried repeatedly to stop the argument, and he continues to prod and provoke. TiLT, if you wish to continue, then by all means take it to PM. Or better yet, just put me on ignore. Let's continue with the game discussion.
TiLT, if you have evidence to back up your claims, then please post it. Otherwise, stop trying to get me in trouble. I'm no longer interested in playing the game.
Any personal attacks I posted back then were a direct result of your constant baiting and pushing my buttons. It's unfortunate that I stooped to that level and let you get to me in that fashion, but be assured that they were not unprovoked. It's a mistake I don't plan on repeating, no matter how many times you wish to bring it back up. I've been around GT and OO a long time. I think most people know that I don't go around attacking people willy-nilly unprovoked.
Also, I didn't fire any shots whatsoever. If you perceived my opinion on the black levels of the PS4 as "firing a shot" against a console I own and enjoy, then that's your problem.
Once again I'm going to try to steer the thread back to Watch Dogs. My biggest problem with the game right now is trying to avoid buying something else to fill the three day wait!
Number one, my original comments about the PS3 were in no way, shape, or form, "drama." I simply stated an opinion. It was your choice to confront it.
Number two, the comments I deleted were not derogatory towards you or anyone else. I was simply defending my opinion.
Please don't try to insinuate that I was making personal attacks and then deleting them, because it's not true. My comments were up for at least a couple of hours. I'm sure many folks read them and can attest that they were not personal attacks against you in any way.
The common pattern here is that you choose to argue points or make mountains out of molehills, then play the victim when someone calls you out on it. All I did was state an opinion. Forge chose to call my comments "insane," and you chose to pile on by trying to demonstrate how smart you are. Either of you could have just let it go, or debated my comments in a respectful manner.
Yes, I did post some personal attacks against you in the heat of the console wars. That's history. I've apologized for it. I've extended the olive branch to you numerous times and you've always found a way to ignore it. I have posted no personal attacks since then, and I don't plan on ever doing it again. Why you choose to make this some kind of personal vendetta is beyond me, but I just want to talk about games.
[Edit] I deleted all my comments because I don't want to contribute anymore to the drama. Just suffice it to say that often HOW you say something is more important than WHAT you say.
As far as Watch Dogs goes, I'd say my excitement level would be considered "moderate." I was SUPER hyped for it back when I thought it would be a launch title, but cooled on it as the months went by. Watching videos didn't do much to raise my excitement because it looked basically like GTA with hacking. That's not a bad thing per se - I enjoy GTA-like open world games. However, my hype level for them tends to ebb and flow. Right now I think I'm on a downswing with open world stuff which is why I'm probably a little apathetic.
I wasn't trying to start a console war discussion. I was just stating why I went with PS4 over XB1. Some people are just overly sensitive of even the slightest criticism, even if that criticism is just a personal preference.
At any rate, I'm confident that after owning and playing both consoles regularly, I'm probably in a better position to make statements about both than someone who doesn't.
Every time I see side by side comparisons of PS4 vs XB1, XB1 looks darker. I know that this is because of crushed blacks or whatever blah blah blah. I don't really care. I like my blacks black, not grey. Even in the PS3 generation the PS3 always looked slightly washed out.
If it's a problem with recording equipment, then EVERY Watch Dogs graphics comparison I've seen so far is having the same "recording problems."
12 hours (to me) is plenty long for a shooter. I tend to take a little longer than the average bear to get through any game just because I tend to be both thorough and stealthy where possible. I think shooters tend to get tedious when they drag on too long. Save the 15+ stuff for RPGs and open world games.
I went with PS4. Once again the XB1 lower resolution swung it over to the PS4. While I'm not that hung up on minor resolution differences, all things being equal I'm going to choose the higher one. From the video comparisons I've seen I think the XB1 looks slightly better (the PS4 looks more washed out to me, they never do good blacks). It's not enough of a difference to swing me over though.
For me it's going to allow me to play PC games while downstairs watching TV with my wife. My wife has zero problems with me multi-tasking while watching our shows together, she just wants the company. I figure this will be awesome for letting me get in some casual gaming in of my Steam backlog while we're catching up on reruns. I tested it out with Arkham Origins today on my wife's laptop and it worked flawlessly.
As an avid media consumer, I'm disappointed the XB1 "failed" as a multimedia all-in-one media box. Unfortunately it's the hardcore gamers that are going to set the tone for how your console does in the marketplace, and the majority of those people don't care about such things. I use my XB1 every single day as a media device, something I can't say for it as a gaming machine.
We really do need an all-in-one that brings everything together in the living room, instead of all these disparate little pieces that do one part of the whole pie. I think the XB1 was just a little too forward thinking and ahead of its time. There will be a day in the near future where talking to our electronics will be commonplace, media will be obsolete, and we'll put up with DRM because it means incredible convenience and value.
However, I'm still a gamer at heart and anything that brings the XB1 back into relevance with gamers is something I can live with.
My boss showed us an awesome TED talk about "The Golden Circle" concept. Imagine three circles, one inside the other. The inner circle is WHY? The middle circle is HOW? The outer circle is WHAT? Companies that succeed tend to market from inside out. They sell the why, then the how, then the what. Companies who fail tend to market from the outside in. They sell the what, then the how, then the why. This is very apt in this current console generation. Sony sold their vision of a console for gamers - that's the WHY. HOW are they doing that? No DRM, reduced price. WHAT is it they're selling? The PS4. Microsoft, by contrast, started from the outside in. They marketed the WHAT and not the WHY, which was the vision. This is why we need DRM, this is why we need Kinect? That message never came through.
I don't think MS is evil. I think they've just done a terrible job at conveying the WHY to consumers. And it's probably because they don't really have a cohesive vision themselves.
At least it's showing that MS is listening to its customers. I don't happen to completely agree with their customers, but at least they're making an effort. If that positive reception extends to games then win-win.
I'm digging the Frank Miller vibe, though it doesn't really mesh well with my vision of Affleck playing the role. He just doesn't seem mature or buff enough to pull off that kind of grit (and yes, I know Affleck is in his 40s but he still looks like he just stepped out of a frat house).
The PS4 is powerful, but it has its limitations. There has been this perception due to its performance compared to the XB1 that it is some kind of miracle machine that gives developers unlimited ability to let their imaginations run wild.
For me that perception was shattered the first time I played Infamous: Second Son and ran into frame rate drops.
That's not to take anything away from it - the games look awesome. But in the end it's just a really optimized mid-range PC.
We're also trying to compare launch consoles to mature, 9 year old consoles. It's very easy to forget what good games were available for 360 in 2005 (hint - not many). In terms of launch lineups, I think you could argue this has been one of the strongest generations ever.
I must be in the minority because I love the Kinect - not for games or motion stuff, but for the voice integration. The only time I pick up a controller is to play a game - other than that it's all voice navigation. My wife loves it because she could never figure out how to use my universal remote or switch inputs on the receiver. With the XB1, she doesn't have to. She just tells it what she wants to do and it does it.
The thing that really irritates me about people being so vehemently against the Kinect is that I feel like they're intentionally hindering technological progress. So the voice integration may not be perfect, but it's a stepping stone to voice recognition in our devices that is close to perfect. And if you kill the Kinect, you scare companies away from improving that technology or innovating in other areas. Those people may be happy playing the same console they played in 1995 just with better graphics. I'm not.
It seriously sickens me that we've become so jaded and cynical as a society that we can't even be wowed by being able to speak to our game console or have our heartrate read through a motion sensor. Stuff that as a kid I would have seen as magical and wondrous. Now it's just FUCK THIS SHIT BEING FORCED DOWN MY THROAT! I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PIONEER DAYS AND CHURN MY OWN BUTTER! WAAAAAHHHHHHH! Ironically these are the same people who get mad because Call of Duty 14 is the same thing as Call of Duty 13 with slightly better graphics.
But you know what? The people have spoken. They just want an incremental graphical upgrade to their previous console of TEN YEARS AGO. At least Microsoft can stop innovating now and we can all be mindless drones who just buy the same product over and over again as long as the model number is incremented by one.
I've never understood the logic of someone buying a $500 console and paying $40/month for broadband and $60 a pop for games, then bitching about paying $5 a month for the online component.
I agree it shouldn't be part of the Gold requirement, especially since you can practically get Netflix on your vacuum cleaner these days, but I've never understood the total outrage it caused. It seemed so disproportionate to the actual "sin" they were committing.
I'm in the middle of Thief, Dark Souls 2, and Arkham Origins but I'm not really feeling the urge to play any of them. I think with the great weather we're having I'm starting to slide into another gaming slump, so I may just take this weekend off.
Take this with a huge grain of salt but there has been an "insider" leak on NeoGAF of what MS has in store for XB1 in the coming months. The insider was given a slight bump in credibility due to correctly describing some plot points of Sunset Overdrive before they were public knowledge. Here's what he had to say (I only included the more interesting rumors):
- Forza Horizon coming out this fall - MS will release a white XB1 - Halo 2 Anniversary Edition - Quantum Break will be out Holiday 2014 - Sunset Overdrive Fall 2014 - Fable Legends Summer 2015 - Halo 2 will include beta for Halo 5 - New Gears of War still probably 2.5 years out - Titanfall DLC will be 45 days from launch, next DLC pack will be 120 days from launch - Crackdown 3 likely 2016 title - Possible $399 XB1 this year with no optical drive - Halo 2, 3, and 4 ports and Halo 5 will be out in the span of a year -
Well, there are titles NOT on that list I'm interested in. The Last of Us port will be a definite purchase, and I'm highly interested in The Order: 1886. And of course, a GTA V port which I'll most likely pick up on PS4 rather than XB1. If you really want to make me happy, though, just start popping out JRPGs.