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1761  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: [Warhammer] a few questions for the vets on: September 29, 2008, 07:59:45 PM
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I read a post somewhere on warhammer aliancxe from a dev saying to link items in chat would need a code rewrite so isn't likely.

Ugh. How could you even forget to put that in? It's been standard in MMOs forever now.
1762  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin opens mouth, useless comes out. on: September 29, 2008, 03:11:27 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty god damned absurd. But if anyone had bothered to read my mind they'd have understood why.

I think you guys misread my intent with that post. I was using "read" present tense, not "read" past tense. If you go and read my posts at OO, you'd understand why. It wasn't meant to be sarcastic or smarmy - I was just in a hurry and didn't have time to explain myself in further detail.

Since it's an issue, the reason I was referring to is that over at OO in the Palin thread I came out and denounced her, because I couldn't take any more of her absurdities. So I'm not trying to take focus off Palin, because I myself do not like Palin, and am heavily leaning towards voting Obama.

The bulk of my political posting has been over at OO, since it has a slightly more active forum, and I've gone into a lot greater detail about my current stances on things over there. If you just read this forum, you likely have an outdated view of my current mindset.
1763  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Jonas Brothers stole my man card! on: September 28, 2008, 12:58:49 PM
Meh, even Rolling Stone has embraced them now - they had one issue dedicated to them and gave their album a glowing review. The end of days are here.
1764  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin opens mouth, useless comes out. on: September 28, 2008, 12:57:47 PM
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Is it the phrase itself that's really bothering you, YK, or something else? I'm guessing you'd like to see the focus taken off of Palin. I won't do that, personally. I think it says a lot about McCain's judgment that he chose her.

No, it has nothing to do with Palin. Most of my political posting as of late has been over at OO, and if you read my posts over there you'd understand why it has absolutely nothing to do with her.
1765  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Palin opens mouth, useless comes out. on: September 27, 2008, 10:14:05 PM
God, the phrase "heartbeat away from the Presidency" has been so utterly run into the ground. It's the "winning hearts and minds" "boots on the ground" "hanging chad" and "Ground Zero" of 2008. Ugh. I seriously want to punch somebody in the face every time they use that phrase.
1766  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: No debate thread? on: September 27, 2008, 04:55:54 AM
As I posted at OO, I thought both candidates did very well. These are obviously experienced debaters and guys who know their politics.

I thought McCain's biggest strength was his articulation of his experience. While Obama talked about spots on the map, McCain made sure people knew he'd actually been there. I thought that was pretty effective. McCain's biggest weakness was his consistent misrepresentation of some of Obama's views - sometimes even after Obama had already corrected him. I thought it was a little underhanded.

Obama's biggest strength was what has always been his biggest strength - he's a very compelling speaker. I thought he did a better job of giving complete answers, remained very composed, and didn't resort to the same misrepresentations. Obama's biggest weakness, unsurprisingly, was his lack of experience. McCain's biggest points were scored when comparing his experience to Obama's.

Personally I give the overall slight edge to Obama for having a more substantive debate. McCain weaseled out of a few questions by either misrepresentative attacks or only defending isolated parts of the argument.  Public/media perception will probably call it a draw.
1767  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 26, 2008, 07:20:25 PM
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So the RvR stuff isn't the same as the scenario's?  I ask because I've done 2 of the scenarios which is more than I ever did in WoW as far as PvP goes, so what is RvR stuff like if it isn't the cap the point gameplay I've seen in the two T1 scenario's I played?

To expand on Fez's explanation, the open-world RvR typically involves capturing battle objectives and keeps. Each contested zone typically has two keeps and four battle objectives.

The keeps and battle objectives are staffed by AI, so a single person can't just run in and cap them uncontested. The AI is typically made up of several champions and one hero level mob, so it takes a minimum of a really good full group to capture any of them.

Once you capture (and hold for 3 minutes) a battle objective, the BO cannot be captured by the other side for 15 minutes. You get some nice renown XP for capturing BOs, and they contribute to your side's overall "control" over the zone (the amount of control your side has bestows various bonuses).

Keeps are *much* tougher to capture. These are castles, so you have to actually break down the door to get inside. Once inside you have to fight off a bunch of champion level mobs and one tough-as-nails hero mob. Beating the hero mob captures the keep, and also initiates a public quest roll for loot (just as if you had participated in a public quest).

Now - keep in mind that even though all these things are staffed by AI, enemy players aren't just going to let you take them. So what typically ends up happening is really fierce battles between players over the keeps (one side attacking, one side defending). The faction which "owns" each keep or BO is easily viewable on the in-game map, as well as the status (whether they are under attack or not).

Think of open-world RvR as a game of "Battlefield" on a really large scale. Often groups will move from zone to zone to capture - or defend - contested keeps and BOs across the game world. 
 
1768  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 26, 2008, 06:11:47 PM
You can't underestimate the power of guild teamwork, particularly when using Ventrilo. It's pretty amazing the odds you can overcome with that level of communication.

What I've found about this game is that it is so team-focused that stragglers can get picked off very easily. Even tanks can go down really quick if they're caught by themselves. So moving together as a unit is crucial.

Perfect example: last night in Stonetroll, when Kub grabbed the flag he'd say, "Northeast, northwest, south" - whatever direction he was headed. By the time he got to the objective he had people waiting at the objective to protect him, he had people running behind him to protect him, etc. It made things ridiculously easy because all of us were moving as a unit towards the flag bearer most of the time.

The other side was scattered, so I'd keep running into 1 or 2 of them running around out in the open and lay waste to them. Or 2-3 would move to attack Kub, while the rest of their team was off God-knows-where in complete disarray.

1769  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 46 hours since my last cigarette on: September 26, 2008, 04:07:27 PM
Good luck, Kratz. I've never smoked but my brother is a smoker and it worries me sick. My grandfather died of lung cancer; he started smoking at the same age my brother did. All I can think about sometimes is the idea that one day I'll have to watch my brother die in the same way.
1770  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Warhammer Online hits 500,000 subscribers on: September 26, 2008, 03:29:33 PM
I thought I read that AoC had 800,000 in sales. That may have been total though, not just first week.
1771  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 26, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
Until you play a lot of RvR, it's easy to come off with an inordinately good impression or an inordinately bad impression based on the luck of the draw of the people you end up playing with.

Case in point - last night I joined solo to a Phoenix Throne scenario. This is basic capture the flag. I zone in, and about 12 players are standing around our flag "guarding" it. This is all well and good, but we are *behind* in the score count. Which means unless we start doing something the timer's going to run out and we're going to lose. At this point all Destruction has to do is sit there!

So me and one other guy are shouting, "Let's all charge, let's go!" Nothing. I go down to the bridge separating the two sides, and their side is afraid to attack us, and we're afraid to attack them. So everybody is just standing there looking at each other while the time ticks away. I was furious! I mean there's no penalty for death in an RvR scenario other than a little lost time. There's absolutely no reason not to get into the battle. And the kicker was we had enough people, that had they all charged at once, we probably would have steamrolled the enemy. I wound up playing out the scenario like Rambo, charging in by myself, killing who I could, dying, repeating. While the rest of my team just sat there. We lost. Badly. It's pathetic when your tanks are scared to lead on the front lines.

The flip side of that? Got into a group with Kublai and other Wanderers last night for T2 scenarios. Stonetroll crossing, in which a "flag" has to be captured and taken to three capture points. It was a total blast. Everybody was working together to protect the flag carrier. I was killing, or seriously wounding, people left and right (I think my final kill count was in the high 50s). We ended up destroying them. It was a total blast.

My point is that once you've played a lot of RvR, you'll start realizing that there are good nights and bad nights, and that overall things are pretty nicely balanced. You just never know what you're going to get, so try not to draw too many conclusions from a handful of scenarios. I'd encourage folks who have only dabbled a tiny bit in RvR to give it a chance - queue up every time you get a chance, and save your PvE for the downtime waiting in the queues.

I played most of T1 purely PvE, but decided that when I hit T2 I'd make a concentrated effort to RvR as much as possible. And now I look at PvE as a silly little time filler between RvR battles. I'm absolutely hooked.

1772  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Heroes Season 3 (spoilers for our less fortunate European friends) on: September 26, 2008, 02:12:39 PM
I should have rewatched the Season 2 finale, because I was completely confused the entire episode.

Aside from that, I was pretty disappointed. It felt like they decided Season 2 was such a mess, they would scrap it and just start over with all this contrived stuff that would satisfy the comic book geeks.

Let's make Mohinder suddenly want to be Superman, and let's make Claire immortal, and we'll give Hiro a new destiny, and we'll make evil Claire and evil Peter, and let's make Nathan come back to life, and maybe Linderman, and let's give Sylar a bunch of Superman 2 villains to hang out with, and let's make Ali Larter not Ali Larter, and...

I felt like they over-corrected. Instead of steering the series gradually away from the Season 2 mess, they went full throttle in the other direction and just made it a confusing, contrived mess.

I'll keep watching, but yeah, I agree with others who felt it was a let-down.
1773  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Someone Explain Mopping to Me on: September 26, 2008, 02:28:24 AM
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and to all you with swiffers - ahhhh!!! my sister got one for my parents - i HATE them.  they generate so much unnecessary waste.  seriously think of all the plastic, packaging, paper, transport etc etc etc (i know you could do this for everything but with that stupid "mop" its extreme)

Screw the environment. My floors are sparkling!  icon_twisted
1774  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: When Did Upturned Collars on Polos Come (back?) Into Style? on: September 25, 2008, 08:07:55 PM
Have never done it, and don't think I've ever seen it in the wild.

However, I tend to stay on the more formal side of the spectrum. If it were up to me, I'd bring back the days when all gentlemen wore suit, tie, and some type of stylish hat. I abhor seeing young punk kids with their pants drooping around their ankles. My wife says I'm a 75 year old trapped in a 33-year old body.
1775  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Fringe Premiere on: September 25, 2008, 05:55:30 PM
I agree, Angel. I thought this show would be right up my alley, but it's starting to make the X-Files look like a documentary. I can suspend my disbelief to a point, but it's getting almost comical. I actually said a similar thing you mentioned to my wife last night - "I think they are intentionally trying to come up with the most far-fetched plotlines they can possibly imagine just to see if they can get away with it."

I was pretty let down with Episode 3, because you're right - the formula is starting to become really noticeable. There are some formula shows I don't mind (House, for instance), because the characters are so great. But the characters in this show don't have the strength to override it for me.

I still plan on giving it some time, but my expectations have been steadily dwinding.
1776  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Someone Explain Mopping to Me on: September 25, 2008, 05:51:17 PM
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I got that for my parents not long ago and wasn't sure how good it'd be.  They love it and now knowing it has the PeteRock stamp of approval I definitely feel I made a good choice.

Yep, we use this as well. It's awesome. Fuck wringing out an actual mop.
1777  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: [Warhammer] a few questions for the vets on: September 24, 2008, 08:00:15 PM
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Here's a question for you - what guild benefits do you get exactly? I know that The Wanderers are taking a 10% tax off of all money you pick up (jerks Tongue), so I'm wondering what does that 'do'?

- Free access to crafting items and other donations in the bank.
- Free access to guild auctions where you can get some really good items for really low prices (blue equipment for < 20 silver? Yes, please!)
- Awesome guild events and the satisfaction of knowing that you have enough numbers to crush your enemies.

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1778  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: [Warhammer] a few questions for the vets on: September 24, 2008, 05:11:26 PM
One fair warning about talisman making. Try to get your crafting skill up to 25 before you leave T1. Once you get into T2 areas, most items are going to yield fragments and essences that can only be used with a crafting skill of 25 or higher.

I ended up having to buy cheap green items off the auction house to melt down just to get my skill up to the point my T2 drops were usable.
1779  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: [Warhammer] a few questions for the vets on: September 24, 2008, 02:43:42 PM
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My questions is how the hell do you make Talismans?  I have the skill trained, I have all the components except for the fragments (the 2nd ingredient).  What the hell are fragments, and where do you get them?  I have 7 characters (I'm an alt-aholic, and am still trying to figure out which class I would prefer to level up with) all with the scavenging skill, so I have a ton of green/blue/purple Talisman ingredients floating in the mail system ready to go.  I just don't know what a fragment is; I don't think I've ever looted one or seen one in the PQ goody bags.

Fragments come from salvaging green or better items. Every time you salvage an item you typically get essences and a chance at a fragment.


1780  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Where do I turn in my man card? on: September 24, 2008, 02:14:07 PM
I love romantic comedies and musicals. I thought "The Notebook" was an awesome movie. I get a little teary-eyed watching The Biggest Loser.  paranoid
1781  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Ensemble was making a Halo MMO? images on: September 24, 2008, 01:48:51 PM
I think it could have worked as a "Planetside" type MMO. I mean Planetside basically *was* Halo - space "Marines," vehicles, drop ships, etc.
1782  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 24, 2008, 12:12:51 PM
My confidence is steadily growing. I killed a number of people 1 on 1 last night, and with careful use of potions I can sometimes hold my own with the tanks (they usually get me in the end, but I give them a tremendous hurtin'). I can't wait to actually get some decent gear and see what happens.

I love the way you can just PvE while waiting for the scenario queues, or hop to a war camp and engage in RvR within minutes. I've never lacked for anything to do the whole time I've been playing, and I always feel like I'm making progress - be it XP, RP, or influence. I looked back on all the MMOs I've quit within a 3 month window, and every one has been because I got bored with not having anything to do or nobody to group with. This game pretty much eliminates both of those problems, so I'm hoping it will be a keeper.
1783  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Were you ever playing a video game when you heard really terrible news? on: September 23, 2008, 08:23:35 PM
I was playing Nintendo when my mom told me my grandfather passed away. It was a weird situation because I had never been very close to him, but at the same time it was the first person I knew that died. I remember that awkward few moments where I'm trying to decide if I should go back to my game since there's nothing I can do about the situation, or if that would be horribly callous of me.
1784  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 23, 2008, 08:19:13 PM
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One thing to keep in mind - be mobile. If you're fighting a tank for whatever reason, and you see a far squishier target nearby (especially a healer) - GO FOR THEM. Don't fight the tank because it's the first target you saw. Your average tank does nowhere near as much damage as your mage or healer can do (or prevent).

+1. As a White Lion (DPS), I play just like a lion in the jungle. I seek out the weak players and those separated from the rest of the herd and I pounce on them. I tend to avoid tanks when possible - even with the damage I do it's extremely difficult for me to take one down without a lot of help. Wizards and Healers and the like, however, I'm not afraid to go toe to toe with.

What's particularly fun about the White Lion is that I can sic my pet on someone without even being close. I've gotten used to fighting one guy, see a weak player run by out of the corner of my eye, and sic the lion on him without skipping a beat. By the time I've finished up my guy the lion has done some damage and I can run in to help finish him off.

What's also fun is that for some reason I'd say a good 75% of players who get attacked by the lion start running. Well guess what? You're not going to outrun him. He's like a pit bull. Once he latches on he's not going anywhere until either he's dead or you're dead. It just throws people in a tizzy when he latches on and starts dishing out damage. They utterly freak out. A lot of times that distraction is all I need to be able to come in and finish them off without getting hurt in the process.

There is nothing funnier than just saying, "Get him boy" and watching that lion tear off across a field and pounce on someone, and watch as they just run around in terror as the lion claws them to pieces. It just never gets old.  icon_biggrin

1785  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 23, 2008, 05:40:05 PM
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How's the RVR? Is it with a group of guildies? Random group? How long does it take?

RvR is a blast. Everything about the game was designed to make RvR as easy and as quick as possible.

For some quick RvR, scenarios are your best bet. You can join one from anywhere in the world just by hitting a button on your UI. You wait in a queue, and when it's ready you'll be warped into the scenario. When the scenario is over, you'll be warped right back to your original position. No need to travel anywhere, no need to be in a party because you can join solo if you want and be auto-assigned to a group. Scenarios give great XP, and take very little time.

For more in-depth RvR, the open world stuff is where it's at. Capturing keeps and battle objectives. This I find far more fun in a good guild or group of friends. While you can obviously run into RvR zones and participate solo or join a random group/warband, the number of players clashing on both sides means it's easy to get lost in the shuffle as a solo player. It's much more fun when you have friends watching your back, and also helps with organization (Ex: you guys go defend, you guys head downstairs and stop any strays).

Some of the battles in open world RvR can get pretty epic. When you have 25 Destruction players and 25 Order players clashing over a single location, things can get INSANE! It truly does feel like a real battle - everyone running around, spells going off everywhere, trying to stay alive while also trying to kill whoever you can. It's a huge adrenaline rush. You can also get some great loot in RvR, as enemy players are "lootable" (i.e. they drop loot, but the dead player doesn't actually lose any items).

The Wanderers are one of the largest guilds on our server, and we often end up running RvR with members of Call of Fate, which is another huge Order guild. It's really fun going out to take back a keep from Destruction and knowing you have the numbers to actually pull it off. What's great about the Wanderers right now is that they're really focused on RvR and are running some great guild events, so it's not too difficult to get in on some action any night of the week.
1786  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 22, 2008, 10:15:43 PM
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So, if John McCain is elected President and cannot fulfill his term in office, do you think Sarah Palin would be qualified to serve as President, or would you be concerned about her?

Of course I would, but I'm casting my vote for President and not Vice President. And I'm basing that vote on current reality, not conjecture on what may or may not happen. I'm just as concerned with Obama's experience, or lack thereof.
1787  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 22, 2008, 08:56:30 PM
I'm a little confused why I'm being painted as some big Palin fan, to the point I should have to defend her. I went back and read every post I've posted in this thread. I expressed my enthusiasm of the pick *from a strategic standpoint*, and I have pointed out the hypocrisy of the "no experience" argument, but nowhere have I denied that she is inexperienced.

Here's a quote from one of my posts:

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I am OK with Palin more because she is the bottom of the ticket. I don't place a lot of stock in VP picks, other than as ticket balancers to win elections. The VP choice has never played any role in my voting decisions. Palin is not my ideal choice; I would have actually preferred Lieberman. However, I think the attacks against Palin are a bit hypocritical, and that's why I have been defending her. It's not out of any great love for her, because like most Americans I know very little about her at this point.

So if you're asking me to give reasons why she's an acceptable candidate, then I don't really know what to say. I've explicitly said she's not my ideal candidate. I've also explicitly said she doesn't have any impact on my vote as the bottom of the ticket.
1788  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 22, 2008, 08:33:02 PM
The lack of activity in some areas worries me a bit. I don't know if it's due to server populations being spread too thin, or people are just advancing through tiers very quickly and focusing on RvR or what. But I've run into far more PQs than not that just have absolutely nobody in them. It's almost like you have to make a guild event out of completing them, because otherwise they're ghost towns.

I've also heard the complaint on our server that the T1 areas are pretty barren now. I just find that odd this early in the game's launch. It definitely doesn't jibe with how seemingly popular this game is, and how many people are playing.
1789  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: NFL Week 3 on: September 22, 2008, 03:17:18 PM
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The Vikings held on for the win. The defence came up big even though I though Steve Smith would burn them like he did the last time the two teams met.

I knew the Panthers' first two games were a fluke. We went back to typical Carolina football - build a lead then blow it on some boneheaded play. Hey Jake, use some goddamn peripheral vision once in awhile (people wonder why I hate Jake - that sack and fumble just before the half sums up my feelings about him).

At lease Steve Smith looked good. If Jake "Bojangles" Delhomme can hold on to the fucking ball next time we may have a shot at winning another game.
1790  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 22, 2008, 12:19:23 AM
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I don't think that treating other people as individuals and weighing their thoughts and opinions appropriately is a matter of taking the forum seriously.  That seems to me like a matter of common courtesy.

Edit - I had a response to this but I'm going to be the good guy and stop this conversation here. Back on topic, please.
1791  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 21, 2008, 01:06:10 PM
T1 is levels 1-11, T2 is levels 12-whatever.., etc

There are four tiers. It's basically just an easy way to denote the level range of content, and it helps them control RvR (T4 players can't kill players in T1 areas, for example).

The chapters are sort of like LOTRO, with each chapter denoting a major quest hub and a new rally master with new influence rewards.
1792  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 21, 2008, 03:05:45 AM
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I suspect you wouldn't like it much if I quoted one of your posts and then wrote, "Wow, you guys will stoop to any level of personal attacks just to avoid talking about real issues!" in reference to something cheeba said.  You and msduncan may be ideologically similar to cheeba and brettmcd, but you're operating on a completely different level of discourse and it wouldn't be fair for me to conflate their behavior with yours.

No, not really. Obviously I take this forum a lot less seriously than you do.
1793  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 20, 2008, 04:54:03 AM
Tonight I participated in my first large-scale PvP effort with the guild, heading into T2 country where we proceeded to take 4 Battle Objectives and 2 Keeps. The final Keep was a heck of a fight, and gave me a nice taste of what WAR is really all about. It was a total blast, and I can't wait to do it again. We did run into some unfortunate exploits (one in our enemy's favor, and one that ended up being in ours), but I expect those to be patched pretty quickly. I can't reiterate enough that even those who don't particularly like PvP, you may like it in this game. The PvP is so group-focused that there's really not that sense of intimidation of being on your own against people more skilled than you. And it's really nice with a big guild like The Wanderers, as you feel like you're rolling in with a freaking army at your back.  icon_biggrin Thanks to all in the guild who organized the event; it made for a really fun evening.
1794  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 19, 2008, 11:57:23 PM
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No one's been in "hysterics"

I read plenty of articles - in mainstream newspapers, no less, that Democrats on the hill and elsewhere were getting increasingly nervous about Palin and the post-convention surge McCain enjoyed in large part due to her. Rather that nervousness - which led to worried calls for Obama to do more to stop the Palin freight train - is classified as "hysterics" to you is a case of splitting hairs. My definition may not meet your definition, but my general point is that trying to spin the post-convention Palin reaction as a calm, cool, collected gathering of facts by the Democrats is utterly ridiculous. Again, I'm not making this up - there were plenty of articles out at the time. If you absolutely need proof I'll be happy to seek them out and link them.
1795  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Make your VEEP predictions! on: September 19, 2008, 08:40:16 PM
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That was on September 5th.  I'm still waiting for an answer.

If you think it'll help out your argument or bolster your image, YellowKing, you're free to post as many insults about me as you like.  I do think it's fair to reserve the right to know exactly which of my posts you're dismissing as "hysterics," though.

Sorry, I was not ignoring the question. I honestly haven't done anything but skim through this particular thread, and I totally missed the whole cheeba/YK/AA controversy.

To answer your question, I said, "you guys." I was not referring to you specifically, Autistic Angel, but to the Dems in general on this board and other boards across the net. It was evident that the Obama camp was in disarray after the announcement of Palin, and there was all sorts of frantic behavior to try to discredit her as quickly as possible - this is what I referred to as "hysterics."

You took it *way* too personally. My comments were not meant as insults, and they were certainly not meant as insults directed specifically at you. It was a simple comment borne out of amusement on my part at what I felt was chaotic behavior by the Democrats to negate Palin's influence on the election. After all, I highly doubt had Obama been leading comfortably in the polls and Palin had given the Republicans no worthy post-convention bounce, that the Dems would be nearly as forceful and frenetic in attacking her and her record. Am I wrong?

To be quite honest, I pay little heed to who posts what. I tend to respond to posts for their content, not their poster, and am certainly not interested in getting personal with any members on this board. R&P is a diversion for me during the day, and a way to talk about politics with people in a way that I don't get to do in real life (my family/friends have zero interest in politics - don't keep up with them, don't discuss them, could care less). So even though I may vigorously defend a candidate, or engage in partisan talk, it's from a standpoint of chatting with a bunch of buddies at a bar. I'm never going to come in here with personal vendettas against anyone, or looking to pick a fight.

Hope that explains my side of it.
1796  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 19, 2008, 06:29:38 PM
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The stuff about the quests being plain concerns me, though, as quests are one of the interesting things to me about LOTRO.

While the quests are a little plainer than LOTRO's so far mechanics-wise, I think you'll enjoy the lore. The quest descriptions are full of backstory, and unlocking Tome of Knowledge entries (such as the Chapter entries you unlock whenever you reach a new quest hub) will fill you in on even more of the game's setting. Like LOTRO, I think they did a pretty good job with trying to make the quests meaningful in terms of the overall story.

One of my favorite things about WAR at the moment is learning about the Warhammer universe through the Tome and quest descriptions, since I wasn't familiar with it at all before the game.

1797  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Fringe Premiere on: September 19, 2008, 06:01:56 PM
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I think I mentioned it before, but I can't decide whether she's an ugly cate blanchette or a hot tilda swinson....

My only problem with her is that she suffers from Renee Zellweger Syndrome, a condition characterized by her face appearing to constantly be smelling something slightly repugnant.
1798  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: How has the economic downturn affected you? on: September 19, 2008, 02:32:12 PM
Hasn't affected us that much, other than the fact that I know we should be farther ahead in paying off our debt, but are instead moving along at the same steady clip. Both my wife and I got raises late last year, but gas prices wiped those out so we pretty much stayed even.

On the other hand, we have cut back on a lot of things almost subconsciously, so that has helped soften the blow as well. We don't eat out much, we don't do a lot of riding around on the weekends burning gas unnecessarily.

If I can manage to land a new job I'm going after next month, then we'll be back on top again, rather than treading water.
1799  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Why are there no Warhammer Online Impressions thread? on: September 19, 2008, 01:22:40 PM
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- IMO, pet pathfinding & animation is atrocious.  And for some reason, I find the War Lion to be worse than the squigs  (although I see no logical reason why that is so).  Which is a real shame, as the White Lion class would easily be one of my favorites if that weren't the case.

I actually picked this class hoping that because of the pathfinding a lot of people wouldn't play it, and when the pathfinding was fixed I'd be uber because I toughed it out. I don't know if that plan will actually work, but that's what I'm going with.  icon_biggrin

I'll echo what everyone else has said. There is plenty of PvE, but it's all geared towards the PvP game. However, even if you don't typically like PvP you may very well enjoy it in this game. Mythic has made it so easy, so effortless to get involved with PvP that it simply doesn't have the intimidation factor that it does in a lot of other games.

And what's even better is that PvP is not an end-game feature. You can PvP at Level 1 if you want to. So unlike other MMOs where you play for a couple of months until you max, and are then thrown into PvP you're unfamiliar with, in this game PvP is part of your character's development from the beginning. Even as you level in PvE, you are learning PvP skills, gaining PvP abilities and equipment, etc. It's really a great system.

1800  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: WAR - smooth like a baby's bottom on: September 18, 2008, 08:25:38 PM
There must be an element of randomness to it then. I tend to get my pick of the same items over and over, though I'm usually stuck with lesser loot bags. The one time I did win a white bag it had a really nice set of boots though.
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