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161  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: All sorts of awesome: The Ocean Marketing customer service debacle on: December 30, 2011, 12:33:48 AM

Quote from: Laner on December 30, 2011, 12:24:38 AM

I'm fully aware of who said what.  Grue is right.  Mike knows he has a huge megaphone.  And he knows that internet denizens can have sociopathic tendencies.  The fact that he thought hanging this guy out to dry (who was clearly in the wrong - don't misunderstand) and let the collective nerd rage loose on him was the wrong decision - a classic case of two wrongs not making a right.

So you're for self censorship because it might cause problem? We should not post complain about a bad behaviour because the internet denizens can have sociopahic tendencies? We should not report about bad people because people might send death threats?

Mike didn't do much more than post the e-mails on his site. I don't think it is wrong to do that.

162  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: All sorts of awesome: The Ocean Marketing customer service debacle on: December 30, 2011, 12:28:17 AM

Quote from: Laner on December 30, 2011, 12:13:55 AM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on December 29, 2011, 10:31:25 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 29, 2011, 10:11:46 PM

Quote from: TiLT on December 29, 2011, 09:40:44 PM


Save your sympathies. They are lost on him.

That's the thing...I'm not sympathizing with him.  I want everyone to play nice.

You don't want people to play nice. You want victim to take the abuse and keep quiet about it.


Way to put words in his mouth.  

No one's suggesting the guy should've just rolled over.  But does anyone honestly believe death threats are an appropriate response to poor customer service?

No, but he was not just complaining about the death threat part, he claimed that Dave should choose not to send it to internet news site and choose a more subtle (maybe more quiet?) way to do it.

Here is Grue's words:
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Dave probably should have taken it through the various avenues that are available to him that don't involve looking like you're trying to incite a lot of drama by going to various Internet news sites to try to get publicity.  There are more subtle ways to take care of bad business practices.

Here are list of possible way to deal with it:

1. Contact the company which was what Dave did.
2. Ask to speak to supervisor or manager which is impossible with this case because all e-maill to the company is managed by Paul.
3. Contact CEO. Probably also useless because any letter from customer to the CEO is probably going to this Paul again.
4. Report to Better Business Bureau. Pretty ineffective.
5. Report to media (which was what Dave did when he contacted Penny Arcade about it).

I think it is over the line to threaten the guy or his families, but Grue was totally wrong in blaming Dave the customer for reporting it to Penny Arcade. If you don't think he should report it to media to try to get publicity about the bad business practices then you're supporting the idea of take the abuse and keep quiet about it because there are no other effective way to deal with this guy.

By reporting to Mike, Dave got N-Control to finally respond with a deadline for delivery. Dave got N-Control to give people who preordered and got charged but didn't get the product as promised, the $10 discount that new customers can get if they now order the product.


163  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: All sorts of awesome: The Ocean Marketing customer service debacle on: December 29, 2011, 10:31:25 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 29, 2011, 10:11:46 PM

Quote from: TiLT on December 29, 2011, 09:40:44 PM


Save your sympathies. They are lost on him.

That's the thing...I'm not sympathizing with him.  I want everyone to play nice.

You don't want people to play nice. You want victim to take the abuse and keep quiet about it.
164  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: All sorts of awesome: smear campaign against Penny Arcade on: December 29, 2011, 10:25:08 PM

Quote from: The Grue on December 29, 2011, 08:57:52 PM

Dave probably should have taken it through the various avenues that are available to him that don't involve looking like you're trying to incite a lot of drama by going to various Internet news sites to try to get publicity.  There are more subtle ways to take care of bad business practices.

More subtle way like what? Writing to tell others about it is exactly the best way to deal with bad customer service like this.

Dave got what he want, a $10 discount for him and all other customers who preordered. If he chose to go through the company, it'll still go to this Paul guy. If he chose to go to better business bureau, it'll not result in anything. So that left him with complaining to the media.

165  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: All sorts of awesome: smear campaign against Penny Arcade on: December 29, 2011, 07:51:50 AM
A press release from N-Control:

http://gamerfront.net/2011/12/n-control-responds-to-ocean-marketing-fiasco/15260

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*** FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ***
AVENGER CONTROLLER DISMISSES MARKETING CONSULTANT,
TAKES BACK MARKETING AND SALES OPERATIONS

Miami, FL— Wednesday, December 28, 2011— N-Control, makers of the Avenger Controller accessory, have categorically dismissed third party contractor Paul Christoforo and his marketing operation, known alternately as Ocean Distribution or Ocean Marketing. This separation from Mr. Christoforo extends to all business interests of N-Control, its founders, and its officers. Mr. Christoforo does not and never did own, in whole or in part, a stake in N-Control LLC nor its affiliated companies (Kotkin Enterprises, iControl LLC).

Following the publication of an email chain between Mr. Christoforo and one of N-Control’s customers, punctuated by Mr. Christoforo’s acknowledgement of his conduct, N-Control immediately proceeded to extricate Mr. Christoforo’s access to their email and social media accounts, a process that is still ongoing. In the interim, a Gmail address and Twitter account ([email protected] and @AvengerDefender, respectively) have been set up for press inquiries and customer service needs.

David Kotkin, the inventor and founder of the Avenger Controller, created the product to help one of his students who had a physical disability. The student wanted to play games the way that everyone else could. The Avenger evolved from a homemade solution for a deserving child into an even more sophisticated controller accessory, capable of enhancing even the most skilled gamer’s performance.

“Everyone deserves the opportunity to be a part of the gaming community in a fun, positive way.” said David Kotkin, Avenger founder. “I created the Avenger to make people happy. I deeply regret that so many people have any negative feelings toward it as a result of what has happened, especially since I’ve seen first-hand what an impact it can have on gameplay.”

Kotkin continued, “What I’m most concerned about is doing right by our customers. We have dropped the ball by giving them delivery estimates that did not come through as expected. We didn’t expect that the demand would be so great, and we should have done a better job communicating that. Our new team is taking all necessary action to correct that going forward. I hope that people will give us a chance to earn back the faith they may have lost.”

All existing orders will be honored, and PS3 Avenger pre-order customers will all be extended the same $10 discount that some have already received. To clarify, customers who have already received $10 off their pre-order are not eligible for an additional discount. N-Control agrees with “Customer Dave” that all of our PS3 early adopters deserve to be rewarded for their trust in the Avenger.

N-Control would like to publicly apologize to existing and potential customers, as well as the gaming community at large, for allowing Mr. Christoforo to abuse his power so unforgivably. The Avenger was invented to provide greater accessibility to disabled gamers, and bullying tactics are the last thing that should be associated with this product.

In the effort to dispel various misconceptions that have been forwarded via news reports and social media, N-Control is offering the following clarifications on a variety of subjects:

N-Control has hired an independent consultant, Austin, Texas-based Moisés Chiullan (@moiseschiu), to field press inquiries and oversee sales and marketing operations going forward. They ask that customers and the press alike bear with them as they field the tens of thousands of emails and other messages that N-Control has received. It is his intent that N-Control should respond personally to everyone who has emailed the [email protected] address regarding this situation.

“We have to move forward and take care of Avenger’s customers,” Chiullan said. “I can’t worry about the fact that there isn’t a bus big enough for me to throw Paul Christoforo under. The internet did that for me. I think they set him on fire too.” He continued, “I just hope that people will have the common decency to leave his wife and child out of all this. They didn’t send those emails, Paul did.”

All PS3 Avenger pre-orders are currently slated to ship by January 15th at the latest. Some orders will ship in advance of January 15th. In consideration of the events of the past two days, N-Control ask their customers to bear with them as they sort out updating individual order estimates. General updates regarding shipping will be regularly delivered to customers starting next week.

At no time during his tenure with N-Control did Mr. Christoforo have direct access to customer credit card information. N-Control does not retain any customer credit card data for online orders, which are all processed via Google Checkout or Paypal.

Ocean Marketing aka Paul Christoforo owns no stake in the Avenger Controller nor N-Control, and does not stand to profit from further sales of the device either through N-Control or authorized resellers.

Contrary to how Mr. Christoforo may have presented events (in public or private), N-Control never directly endorsed nor had knowledge of his communication with customers in the manner found in his correspondence with “Customer Dave”, who still wants his Avengers, despite everything that has transpired.

Steps have been taken to ensure that all future customer communication is transparently visible to management at N-Control. N-Control regrets sincerely that the trust they placed in Mr. Christoforo was so abused and betrayed and, as a result, may have tainted their reputation with existing and potential customers and partners.

Regarding “Afternoon Artists”, a company registered with the Florida Division of Corporations that lists Paul Christoforo as Treasurer, N-Control has the following statement: “This secondary business has never so much as opened a bank account, much less operated in any form outside of paperwork being filed. It was originally intended that Mr. Christoforo would serve as an investor in this company, which, again, has never operated in any capacity, nor will it in the future.”

N-Control employs Eli Schwartz as a part-time Social Media Consultant. He is an enthusiastic high school student who became one of the Avenger’s earliest super fans, meeting the founder at a trade show. Mr. Kotkin is proud to encourage the development of a bright, enthusiastic young person like Eli.

Eli Schwartz is not, however, in charge of Marketing or PR for N-Control. Previous news reports have credited him as Marketing Manager, a title Mr. Schwartz gave himself without the consent or advance knowledge or N-Control management. This occurred during the period of greatest upheaval following Mr. Christoforo’s dismissal, and N-Control regrets that this mixed messaging reached the public. All press inquiries and media requests should instead be directed to Moisés Chiullan at the [email protected] address.

Contrary to rumors and speculation, Eli Schwartz’s Twitter account is his own and not controlled by Paul Christoforo. Mr. Schwartz is a minor, and consequently, N-Control would appreciate the press and the public’s discretion in their dealings with him.

For the foreseeable future, N-Control’s official Twitter account will be “@AvengerControl”, as N-Control does not have access to “@NControlAvenger”. N-Control is not responsible for the content of any Twitter feeds associated with Paul Christoforo.

For the foreseeable future, N-Control requests that customers discontinue use of the toll-free phone number displayed on the AvengerController.com website, as well as any other means of contact found there. Instead, customers should direct communication to [email protected]. They ask for patience due to the events of the last two days. Keep an eye on @AvengerControl on Twitter for updates.

For more details regarding N-Control and Avenger Controller, contact press agent Moisés Chiullan, at [email protected].

For more information, follow Avenger Controllers on Twitter: @AvengerControl

Seem like this Kotkin guy was really bad in choosing people to work with. A 38 years old asshole as marketing consultant and maybe business partner that now get thrown under the bus for screwing up badly? A teenage kid as a social media consultant?

166  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: All sorts of awesome: smear campaign against Penny Arcade on: December 29, 2011, 02:03:18 AM

Quote from: Blackhawk on December 28, 2011, 05:23:41 PM

The business owner made some mistakes.  From what I've read about him, the guy is an art teacher selling a product he made for disabled kids.  He doesn't seem to know much about running a business.  I think he just learned that.

Unfortunately, the asshole he hired to do his PR may have sunk his business (which really does seem like a worthwhile endeavor), and will end up walking away with nobody the wiser.   People will remember the controller, not the soon-to-be-changed name of the marketing business run by this con man.

According to http://www.examiner.com/video-game-industry-in-national/ocean-marketing-gaming-pr-rep-to-avoid-at-all-cost the business owner seem to be fishy, too. And the business owner has deeper relation with Paul Christoforo than his apology letter suggested.

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Update 7: I was recently tweeted at by @TheSchwartz173 claiming to have additional details from the owner of n-control and makers of The Avenger peripheral regarding their take on this whole ordeal. The full statement is below:

 We apologize for our poor representation from Ocean Marketing. We wanted to give Paul a chance. He was rough around the edges, but he had drive and enthusiasm.

However his behavior was unprovoked, unnecessary, and unforgivable. We are no longer represented by Ocean Marketing.
 
David Kotkin
Owner/Inventor
Avenger Controller

...

I discovered that on Amazon David Kotkin was on a bit of uneven footing not that long ago on 11.24.11, prior to yesterday's events with Paul Christoforo and Ocean Marketing. Scrolling down beyond the 1-star review reveals comments from David Kotkin's Gaming Pro Amazon user profile to other users. Notably, according to user C. K. Ahlstrom, "There's a review on your account saying that you bought one of these things (and loved it). Now your posting with an email account from avengercontroller.com and offering support for it? You also posted the same negative review for three of your competitors products. I wonder if amazon will want to know you post reviews for your own product while posing as a customer." Looking deeper into the Gaming Pro user, thanks to cached reviews shows that David Kotkin's Gaming Pro user profile does indeed try to derail his competition while lauding his own Avenger product, but this appears to be the tip of the iceberg.

...

Update 24: Received a large bit of information from Dan Sparks who opted to share what he discovered for SomethingAwful.com after spending some time on the phone with Paul Christoforo:

 Apparently I am now an Investigative Journalist or something.

I just got off the phone with Paul, and he had some vaguely interesting stuff to tell me about his relationship with David.
Firstly, they met in January this year, at CES, and they have worked on various things (such as Afternoon Artists, which they incorporated around August 2011), so the story that Paul was hired by David without him having any idea of his competence seems pretty unlikely.

He also said:

* The kid with the disability was the inspiration for the controller, according to David
* His friendship with David is "on the rocks right now but we are friends"
* He wasn't hired by David to deal with the marketing for the controller as much as he was "helping him in a limited capacity taking those customer service calls."
* He has no idea about the Amazon reviews - what they were or who wrote them. "I don't know what he does day-to-day - I'm in California and he's in Miami."

He really has no idea how badly he fucked up here, either. He's got interviews for Spike TV and Forbes lined up, and he's going to tell them the same stuff he told MSNBC, and that he told me - he had a bad day, and he figured that Penny Arcade/PAX wasn't really a big deal, so he felt justified in telling this guy to go fuck himself.

Right now he says he is in damage control mode - I made sure he'd got his girlfriend to set her facebook account to private for the time being* - but he really doesn't understand why anybody thinks he's an idiot, and as long as that remains the case he's going to continue hurting himself. In a similar vein he was obviously upset that his criminal record had been posted but seemingly more concerned with it being posted than having people know what he had done: "people are vicious, they'll use anything to make you look evil."

I asked him how he felt about David and the other guys distancing themselves from him, and making him seem like he was just a bad hire. He said that he doesn't exactly feel like he's been hung out to dry, and that he is hopeful that the press release that is going to be put out ("they're going to put out a press release soon; I just got off the phone with them") will put him in a more positive light.

I would imagine that, given how David Kotkin has played it so far, he is completely hanging Paul out to dry, but I guess we'll see, if that press release ever surfaces.

 
*Context: Paul and his girlfriend's facebook accounts were found and posted online, I let him know his girlfriend's account was viewable and he got her to make it private for now.
Special thanks again to Dan Sparks for sharing everything he discovered. It makes this round-up significantly more complete than it would have been otherwise.

167  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Deals Thread: Holiday Sale! on: December 21, 2011, 04:57:04 AM
Yesterday:

Orcs must die + DLCs.

Today:
Tropico 4 + DLC that is on sale and the DLC that is not on sale.
Dungeons of Dredmor: Realms of the Diggle Gods DLC.
168  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] Batman 3, aka Dark Knight Rising on: December 20, 2011, 02:21:56 AM
OWS is in the movie? Catwoman is part of the 99%.
169  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Is Steam down? on: December 19, 2011, 02:16:43 AM

Quote from: frost on December 17, 2011, 05:48:06 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on December 16, 2011, 01:27:48 PM

According to NVidia, the dying PC gaming sales is going to surpass console gaming sales in 2014.

As a PC gamer, I can only hope that's true. 

Somehow, though, I don't see how that will happen.  What is their logic based on?  Maybe I've been misled on recent trends, but sucky consoles are still going strong.

http://techgage.com/article/nvidia_talks_pc_gaming_trends/

I think they expect PC gaming sales continue to rise each year following the current trend and the console gaming sales are going to slow down until the next generation of XBOX, PS, etc. are released which is likely to be after 2014.

By PC gaming, I think they include digital download PC games, MMORPG, free-to-play, DLCs, facebook social gaming, etc.

170  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Is Steam down? on: December 16, 2011, 01:27:48 PM
According to NVidia, the dying PC gaming sales is going to surpass console gaming sales in 2014.
171  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PC gaming more expensive then consoles? on: December 14, 2011, 03:26:25 AM
Also the comparison should include the following scenarios:

PC gamers need a PC for non gaming purpose, so the cost of PC gaming is only whatever parts that PC gamers need to buy to be able to play games on his PC. So maybe only include cost of graphic cards and some extra RAM, plus the cost of games.

Console gamers have TV for non gaming purpose, so the cost of console gaming is really just the cost of the console itself plus cost of games.
172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Warlock: Master of the Arcane on: December 09, 2011, 07:50:18 AM
New Master of Magic?
173  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Steam Downloads- Is this Accurate? Could use some advice... on: November 25, 2011, 04:07:44 AM
I don't think they'll refund. This is why most people wait until last day to buy stuffs that are not in the daily sale. Steam's official policy is no refund at all. Their unofficial policy is to only refund preordered games before they're released. Once a game is released, you can't ask for refund.

My experience so far with customer support of digital download stores, Steam is at the bottom of the list. Origin/EA is at the upper part of the list since they can gift you something or refund you if you have trouble with your order.
174  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Just got emails saying I used "forgot password" function but I never did. on: November 12, 2011, 05:11:53 AM
Got one too.
175  Gaming / Portable Gaming & Apps / Re: iPhone/iTouch app and game thread on: November 02, 2011, 01:48:20 AM
King of Dragon Pass is on sale for $5.99 down from $9.99.

176  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Let's talk Iphone on: October 05, 2011, 04:01:26 AM
Siri seem to be software based or are there any hardware requirement that make it impossible to implement in iPhone 4?
177  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: So... should I give Thief a second chance? on: October 04, 2011, 12:40:13 AM

Quote from: Razgon on October 03, 2011, 08:18:22 PM

Shalebridge Cradle...dear lord...that was the craziest thing ever!

oh, and BJ - You do know Thief 4 is being developed right now, by the guys who made Deus Ex: Human Revolution, right?

Hopefully they don't add bosses to Thief 4 and outsource those to people who don't know anything about Thief series. smile
178  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: What's your daily routine? on: September 29, 2011, 06:39:35 AM
Normal routine during workdays.

5:10 Waking up.
5:10-5:40 Web Browsing or Play some light games like The Sims 3. Having breakfast (sometime).
5:40 Waking my wife.
5:40-6:00 Continue with Web Browsing or Play light games. Having breakfast (sometime).
6:00-6:25 Shower and other bathroom business.
6:25-6:30 Get dressed.
6:40 Leave for work.
7:10 Arriving at workplace.
7:10-7:30 Read newspaper and having breakfast (if I don't have one at home).
7:30 Office hour Start
12:00-13:00 Lunch
13:00 Back working.
16:30 Office hour End.
16:30-19:00 (Leave office between those hours depend on my wife having overtime or not).
After that 1.5 hours travel time to reach home (took longer on return trip due to traffic jam)
Dinner (and sometime go out to watch movie with my wife).
Arrive home.
Browsing/Play Games/Watch TV/Spend time with my wife.
22:00 Go to bed.
179  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Steam Questions. on: September 28, 2011, 03:49:06 AM

Quote from: Sarkus on September 28, 2011, 02:57:39 AM

... when I restarted it I was told it didn't recognize my computer and I had to log back in ...

It did that before the latest update so the "bug/feature" existed before the latest update. BTW, when I got that message, I didn't type in my password to log back in. I just closed everything and ran Steam again. It logged me in automatically on the second run.
180  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Wasted on Steam (calculates your Steam stats) on: September 21, 2011, 05:18:33 AM
Has logged 549.3 hours of playtime — that's 22 days, 21 hours, and 18 minutes worth
Has spent the most time playing Dragon Age: Origins, which accounts for 37.0% of their playtime
Has played 86 games, while 177 remain untouched frown you can also view unplayed and played games
Owns 263 games for a total worth of $2746.38 (at the games' current prices)
Fourteen games Victoria Raverna currently owns are on sale. View all of them?
Their overall account cost per hour of gametime of the games list below is $5.00

37% of playtime is from DA: Origins???
181  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Windows 8 on: September 15, 2011, 08:05:09 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on September 14, 2011, 02:15:05 AM

keynote video from today: http://www.buildwindows.com/ , plu major Nelson on bringing Xbox Live to Windows 8.  dare we say goodnight to Games for Windows Live?

Does that mean Microsoft now want people to pay for XBOX Live Gold Membership to play newer multiplayer PC games?
182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Gaming Trend Poll- What upcoming games are you looking forward to the most? on: September 14, 2011, 06:45:55 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on September 13, 2011, 11:17:15 AM

there are these amazing things called 'settings' that allow you to decide that your stuff shouldn't be posted publicly, or only to certain groups of friends.  I know, shocking.  ninja

But Facebook sometime screw up and "accidentally" reveal information to those that you want to keep private. smile

One small example:

I always set my chat status to offline so that no one can keep track on when I use Facebook, but Facebook's undocumented feature foiled that since people on my friend list see I'm online for a bit before it set my chat status to offline.

183  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Lifestyle] Breaking my addiction to white powder. on: September 14, 2011, 05:07:59 AM
A question for Purge, you're promoting this "best" diet but how long have you been on the diet? According to your first post that was posted at Sept 3rd, you're at 3 days? So you have been on the diet for only 2 weeks so far? Maybe too early to make a conclusion on the quality of the diet?

184  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Lifestyle] Breaking my addiction to white powder. on: September 14, 2011, 05:01:28 AM

Quote from: kathode on September 14, 2011, 04:50:23 AM

Quote from: cheeba on September 14, 2011, 03:32:46 AM

Those people along with 15 others with equally fancy titles all rated 20 diets for Overall Best Diet, Best Weight-Loss Diet, Best Heart Healthy Diet, and Best Diabetes Diet. Paleo came in last in every category except 1 where it was 19th. [Source]

Here's an extensive, annotated rebuttal - http://robbwolf.com/2011/06/11/us-news-best-diets-rebuttal-2/

15 experts > 1 expert. slywink
185  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Lifestyle] Breaking my addiction to white powder. on: September 14, 2011, 02:39:47 AM

Quote from: Purge on September 13, 2011, 10:06:28 PM

Our bodies aren't simple math, and to think that such a complex system is nothing but cal in|cal out and that the cause of obesity is sloth or gluttony needs compelling scientific proof.

It is really that simple. Gaining weight is cal in > cal out. Losing weight is cal in < cal out. Cal in is from all the stuff that you eat. Cal out is the amount that your body burn + the amount of calories your secreted in your poop, your piss, and your sweat.
186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Impressions and stuff! [Official Review too!] on: September 13, 2011, 01:04:15 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on September 13, 2011, 12:29:25 AM

one other thing the game is missing is melee weapons, and I cannot think of a single reason why they couldn't be in the game.

Because that'll be bringing a knife to a gunfight? smile
187  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: US credit rating downgraded on: August 09, 2011, 02:12:46 AM

Quote from: corruptrelic on August 07, 2011, 02:28:28 AM

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SHANGHAI — China, the largest foreign holder of United States debt, said Saturday that Washington needed to “cure its addiction to debts” and “live within its means,” just hours after the rating agency Standard & Poor’s downgraded America’s long-term debt.

"The U.S. government has to come to terms with the painful fact that the good old days when it could just borrow its way out of messes of its own making are finally gone," read the commentary. Beijing called on Washington to make substantial cuts to its "gigantic military expenditure" and its "bloated social welfare" programs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/business/global/china-a-big-creditor-says-us-has-only-itself-to-blame.html

It is stupid to listen to China. They're not going to give good advice since they're a competitor.

Curing addiction to debts or live within its means is the thing that is going to kill US.

The solution is actually to borrow more.

Don't think of government debt as credit card debt but think of it as a business borrowing money to expand/invest.

Instead of trying to reduce debt, the government should transform from a non-profit organization into a profitable business organization. Borrow more money, invest those money. Buy or invest in profitable businesses around the world. Ignore idiots that call it socialism. It is pure capitalism, run the government like a business that give "government services" to citizens as corporate social policy but make profit from elsewhere. If successful this will eventually lower the taxes since the government don't need to collect taxes to cover the expenses if they make enough profit.
188  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Diablo III on: August 07, 2011, 01:21:13 AM
I think you misunderstood rshetts2. He was not completely sold on the security those authenticators provide. Not the security of the authenticators itself. So man in the middle attack is a good reason for that.
189  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Notch sued by Bethesda over use of the word "Scrolls" on: August 05, 2011, 11:36:29 PM
Boycott Bethesda! Don't buy Skyrim!
190  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Diablo III on: August 05, 2011, 02:59:19 PM
Man in middle attack can hack accounts that are protected by authenticators.
191  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal: Runaway 1 + Arkham Asylum - Gods & Heroes - Dino D-Day on: July 28, 2011, 10:21:47 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 28, 2011, 06:55:03 PM

Weekend Deal is Dino D-Day for $4.99

http://store.steampowered.com/app/70000/

plus it's free to play this weekend.

Another weekend deal is VTM: Bloodlines $4.99.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/2600/
192  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London on: July 25, 2011, 02:56:51 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 25, 2011, 02:28:39 AM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on July 25, 2011, 01:27:15 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 24, 2011, 08:07:49 PM

I suppose a swastika is the same then right?  I mean it DOES have other meanings.  (there isn't a smiley face with eyes that roll enough for this)

Swastika/卐 has good meanings long before Nazi used it.

Back to the topic, not a fan of her, but sad news.


I did say as much, but the former meanings are far overshadowed by what it came to stand for, much like the confederate flag.  Very poor taste in choosing it for your avatar, especially since that particular usage of the swastika and colors wasn't formerly used prior to Nazi Germany afaik.

Changed it to another version. smile
193  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London on: July 25, 2011, 01:27:15 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 24, 2011, 08:07:49 PM

I suppose a swastika is the same then right?  I mean it DOES have other meanings.  (there isn't a smiley face with eyes that roll enough for this)

Swastika/卐 has good meanings long before Nazi used it.

Back to the topic, not a fan of her, but sad news.




194  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic announced on: July 21, 2011, 05:25:34 AM

Quote from: Blackjack on July 20, 2011, 03:26:03 PM

I'm "wait and see" on that, in part because I'm hoping there'll be a boxed version with some Star Wars Geek goodies in it.  icon_smile

I was very pleased with my experience buying Starcraft 2 via Blizzard's own digital download service last year. I just don't have particular faith that an EA service would be as well designed. Blizzard's service just hawks its own few old (albeit great) titles, while EA would probably be shoving 3,942 games most of us don't care about via obnoxious advertising on the Origin service. But it it's designed well and isn't a mess and doesn't bog my system down, I'd consider it.

I have been purchasing games from Origin since it was called EA Online Store and use the client since it was called EA Download Manager. The client is running just fine and there is no obnoxious advertising on Origin store page, it is comparable to Steam store page. Origin is just like Impulse for EA games, you only need Origin client to download games, but you don't need it to play them just like Impulse except you also don't need it to patch games since EA don't use Origin to patch games.
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Latest Patch for Fallout New Vegas is a game killer on: July 20, 2011, 02:49:06 AM
You can try to "Verify integrity of game cache" feature to repair the game and see if that help before reinstalling the whole thing.

What I hate about this patch is the autoupdate redownload over 8 GB (probably the whole game).
196  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Random Youtube Links Part 1: This time it's random Youtube Links (NSFW) on: July 18, 2011, 01:27:53 AM
Fox 5 News Waterpowered jetpack http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qRVspuAJyAY
197  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal on Hold For THE SUMMER SALE! on: July 11, 2011, 02:28:19 AM
Magicka 6 DLCs (Marshland, Nippon, Final Frontier, Watchtower, Frozen Lake, Robe Bundle) $4.67
Audiosurf $1.49
Cities XL 2011 $7.99
Terraria $4.99
Paradox Fantasy Pack $7.99
Guardians of Graxia + Guardians of Graxia Elves and Dwarves Expansion $3.98

Total: $31.11

From redeeming tickets:
Guardians of Graxia Map Pack DLC
Delve Deeper DLC
Magicka The Lonely Cruise DLC
X3:  A Sunny Place DLC
Alien Breed 2 : Assault
198  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Streaming from PC to PS3? on: July 08, 2011, 02:02:25 AM

Quote from: morlac on July 07, 2011, 01:52:19 PM

Quote from: Canuck on July 02, 2011, 03:06:52 PM

ok I tried the PS3 media player thing and it works great.  MKV files and everything!

Any tips for doing this wireless?  Well my Pc is wireless but my PS3 is hardwired.  I tend to get choppiness and stuttering trying to watch anything of decent quality.

You can choose to transcode it using ps3 media server instead of just streaming so just choose one of the transcoding option when playing it on PS3. Also remember to set ps3 media server to compress to a lower bandwidth version when transcoding (if I recall correctly, there is a drop down arrow in the encoder setting where let you choose a suitable setting for lower bandwitdh connection.
199  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal on Hold For THE SUMMER SALE! on: July 08, 2011, 01:51:19 AM

Quote from: mirage775 on July 08, 2011, 01:14:36 AM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on July 08, 2011, 12:39:13 AM

Quote from: mirage775 on July 07, 2011, 04:17:48 PM

I know it's a little late to ask, but is prototype worth 15 bucks?

YES.


Damn....  Is it worth $20?

Yes, but since you have waited so long to get it (It was released in 2009), why not just wait for the next holiday sale to get it if it is not back in an encore sale in the last day. I think it was on sale in every single Steam's holiday sale.
200  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal on Hold For THE SUMMER SALE! on: July 08, 2011, 12:39:13 AM

Quote from: mirage775 on July 07, 2011, 04:17:48 PM

I know it's a little late to ask, but is prototype worth 15 bucks?

YES.
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