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161  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Lifestyle] Breaking my addiction to white powder. on: September 14, 2011, 05:01:28 AM

Quote from: kathode on September 14, 2011, 04:50:23 AM

Quote from: cheeba on September 14, 2011, 03:32:46 AM

Those people along with 15 others with equally fancy titles all rated 20 diets for Overall Best Diet, Best Weight-Loss Diet, Best Heart Healthy Diet, and Best Diabetes Diet. Paleo came in last in every category except 1 where it was 19th. [Source]

Here's an extensive, annotated rebuttal - http://robbwolf.com/2011/06/11/us-news-best-diets-rebuttal-2/

15 experts > 1 expert. slywink
162  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [Lifestyle] Breaking my addiction to white powder. on: September 14, 2011, 02:39:47 AM

Quote from: Purge on September 13, 2011, 10:06:28 PM

Our bodies aren't simple math, and to think that such a complex system is nothing but cal in|cal out and that the cause of obesity is sloth or gluttony needs compelling scientific proof.

It is really that simple. Gaining weight is cal in > cal out. Losing weight is cal in < cal out. Cal in is from all the stuff that you eat. Cal out is the amount that your body burn + the amount of calories your secreted in your poop, your piss, and your sweat.
163  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Impressions and stuff! [Official Review too!] on: September 13, 2011, 01:04:15 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on September 13, 2011, 12:29:25 AM

one other thing the game is missing is melee weapons, and I cannot think of a single reason why they couldn't be in the game.

Because that'll be bringing a knife to a gunfight? smile
164  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: US credit rating downgraded on: August 09, 2011, 02:12:46 AM

Quote from: corruptrelic on August 07, 2011, 02:28:28 AM

Quote
SHANGHAI — China, the largest foreign holder of United States debt, said Saturday that Washington needed to “cure its addiction to debts” and “live within its means,” just hours after the rating agency Standard & Poor’s downgraded America’s long-term debt.

"The U.S. government has to come to terms with the painful fact that the good old days when it could just borrow its way out of messes of its own making are finally gone," read the commentary. Beijing called on Washington to make substantial cuts to its "gigantic military expenditure" and its "bloated social welfare" programs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/business/global/china-a-big-creditor-says-us-has-only-itself-to-blame.html

It is stupid to listen to China. They're not going to give good advice since they're a competitor.

Curing addiction to debts or live within its means is the thing that is going to kill US.

The solution is actually to borrow more.

Don't think of government debt as credit card debt but think of it as a business borrowing money to expand/invest.

Instead of trying to reduce debt, the government should transform from a non-profit organization into a profitable business organization. Borrow more money, invest those money. Buy or invest in profitable businesses around the world. Ignore idiots that call it socialism. It is pure capitalism, run the government like a business that give "government services" to citizens as corporate social policy but make profit from elsewhere. If successful this will eventually lower the taxes since the government don't need to collect taxes to cover the expenses if they make enough profit.
165  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Diablo III on: August 07, 2011, 01:21:13 AM
I think you misunderstood rshetts2. He was not completely sold on the security those authenticators provide. Not the security of the authenticators itself. So man in the middle attack is a good reason for that.
166  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Notch sued by Bethesda over use of the word "Scrolls" on: August 05, 2011, 11:36:29 PM
Boycott Bethesda! Don't buy Skyrim!
167  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Diablo III on: August 05, 2011, 02:59:19 PM
Man in middle attack can hack accounts that are protected by authenticators.
168  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal: Runaway 1 + Arkham Asylum - Gods & Heroes - Dino D-Day on: July 28, 2011, 10:21:47 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 28, 2011, 06:55:03 PM

Weekend Deal is Dino D-Day for $4.99

http://store.steampowered.com/app/70000/

plus it's free to play this weekend.

Another weekend deal is VTM: Bloodlines $4.99.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/2600/
169  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London on: July 25, 2011, 02:56:51 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 25, 2011, 02:28:39 AM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on July 25, 2011, 01:27:15 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 24, 2011, 08:07:49 PM

I suppose a swastika is the same then right?  I mean it DOES have other meanings.  (there isn't a smiley face with eyes that roll enough for this)

Swastika/卐 has good meanings long before Nazi used it.

Back to the topic, not a fan of her, but sad news.


I did say as much, but the former meanings are far overshadowed by what it came to stand for, much like the confederate flag.  Very poor taste in choosing it for your avatar, especially since that particular usage of the swastika and colors wasn't formerly used prior to Nazi Germany afaik.

Changed it to another version. smile
170  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London on: July 25, 2011, 01:27:15 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 24, 2011, 08:07:49 PM

I suppose a swastika is the same then right?  I mean it DOES have other meanings.  (there isn't a smiley face with eyes that roll enough for this)

Swastika/卐 has good meanings long before Nazi used it.

Back to the topic, not a fan of her, but sad news.




171  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic announced on: July 21, 2011, 05:25:34 AM

Quote from: Blackjack on July 20, 2011, 03:26:03 PM

I'm "wait and see" on that, in part because I'm hoping there'll be a boxed version with some Star Wars Geek goodies in it.  icon_smile

I was very pleased with my experience buying Starcraft 2 via Blizzard's own digital download service last year. I just don't have particular faith that an EA service would be as well designed. Blizzard's service just hawks its own few old (albeit great) titles, while EA would probably be shoving 3,942 games most of us don't care about via obnoxious advertising on the Origin service. But it it's designed well and isn't a mess and doesn't bog my system down, I'd consider it.

I have been purchasing games from Origin since it was called EA Online Store and use the client since it was called EA Download Manager. The client is running just fine and there is no obnoxious advertising on Origin store page, it is comparable to Steam store page. Origin is just like Impulse for EA games, you only need Origin client to download games, but you don't need it to play them just like Impulse except you also don't need it to patch games since EA don't use Origin to patch games.
172  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Latest Patch for Fallout New Vegas is a game killer on: July 20, 2011, 02:49:06 AM
You can try to "Verify integrity of game cache" feature to repair the game and see if that help before reinstalling the whole thing.

What I hate about this patch is the autoupdate redownload over 8 GB (probably the whole game).
173  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Random Youtube Links Part 1: This time it's random Youtube Links (NSFW) on: July 18, 2011, 01:27:53 AM
Fox 5 News Waterpowered jetpack http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qRVspuAJyAY
174  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal on Hold For THE SUMMER SALE! on: July 11, 2011, 02:28:19 AM
Magicka 6 DLCs (Marshland, Nippon, Final Frontier, Watchtower, Frozen Lake, Robe Bundle) $4.67
Audiosurf $1.49
Cities XL 2011 $7.99
Terraria $4.99
Paradox Fantasy Pack $7.99
Guardians of Graxia + Guardians of Graxia Elves and Dwarves Expansion $3.98

Total: $31.11

From redeeming tickets:
Guardians of Graxia Map Pack DLC
Delve Deeper DLC
Magicka The Lonely Cruise DLC
X3:  A Sunny Place DLC
Alien Breed 2 : Assault
175  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: Streaming from PC to PS3? on: July 08, 2011, 02:02:25 AM

Quote from: morlac on July 07, 2011, 01:52:19 PM

Quote from: Canuck on July 02, 2011, 03:06:52 PM

ok I tried the PS3 media player thing and it works great.  MKV files and everything!

Any tips for doing this wireless?  Well my Pc is wireless but my PS3 is hardwired.  I tend to get choppiness and stuttering trying to watch anything of decent quality.

You can choose to transcode it using ps3 media server instead of just streaming so just choose one of the transcoding option when playing it on PS3. Also remember to set ps3 media server to compress to a lower bandwidth version when transcoding (if I recall correctly, there is a drop down arrow in the encoder setting where let you choose a suitable setting for lower bandwitdh connection.
176  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal on Hold For THE SUMMER SALE! on: July 08, 2011, 01:51:19 AM

Quote from: mirage775 on July 08, 2011, 01:14:36 AM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on July 08, 2011, 12:39:13 AM

Quote from: mirage775 on July 07, 2011, 04:17:48 PM

I know it's a little late to ask, but is prototype worth 15 bucks?

YES.


Damn....  Is it worth $20?

Yes, but since you have waited so long to get it (It was released in 2009), why not just wait for the next holiday sale to get it if it is not back in an encore sale in the last day. I think it was on sale in every single Steam's holiday sale.
177  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal on Hold For THE SUMMER SALE! on: July 08, 2011, 12:39:13 AM

Quote from: mirage775 on July 07, 2011, 04:17:48 PM

I know it's a little late to ask, but is prototype worth 15 bucks?

YES.
178  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deal on Hold For THE SUMMER SALE! on: July 07, 2011, 03:50:33 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on July 07, 2011, 02:17:50 AM

Quote from: Lyno on July 07, 2011, 01:53:31 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on July 06, 2011, 06:07:18 PM

Quote from: Gratch on July 06, 2011, 05:48:39 PM

Jamestown looks remotely interesting.  Anyone played it?  Worth a fiver?

Seems to be getting decent reviews.  Here's a GiantBomb Quicklook showing a good portion of gameplay.

As for the tickets, I have 2.  I quickly gave up trying to get any that I didn't already have, so I'm just hoping for the best.


Here's 6 tickets that don't require any games and are super easy:

June 30th
Welcome to Camp - Join The Summer Camp Official Group

July 1st
Find your friends - Link your Facebook Profile in Steam

July 2nd
Introduce yourself - Post a comment on a friend's Steam Community profile page

July 3rd
Write home - Recommend a game to your friends

July 4th
Say Cheese - Post a screenshot

July 5th
Play time - Play a free game demo

-Lyno!

Thanks for the tips!  I'm not willing to link my profile to Facebook (frankly I use that as minimally as possible), and can't seem to get the screenshot one to work for me.  I've taken a screenshot and uploaded it, but didn't get credit.

You can always create another facebook profile just for gaming or linking to get bonus on Steam. smile
179  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Empty your pockets please. on: June 30, 2011, 02:04:25 AM
Pants: Wallet, work badge/pass, phone.
Shirt: My keys.
180  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: The conservative image on: June 26, 2011, 03:02:44 AM

Quote from: iloveplywood on June 23, 2011, 07:37:09 PM

Death Penalty:  Al Gore wasn't against the death penalty, has any democratic presidential candidate been for abolishing the death penalty (Obama switched to a pro-death penalty stance while running for president)?  Which is worse -- people that run for office believing in the death penalty or people believing the death penalty is heinous but changing their position because of political expediency?  I'm against the death penalty but the argument that killing one innocent person is too much can be applied to keeping one person locked up in a cell for life too -- should we free all the prisoners?  Frankly I think I'd rather be killed than spend my whole life locked up (of course I might feel differently in a non-hypothetical situation) for a crime I didn't commit.  Anyway, I get your point that in a wildly imperfect judicial system the death penalty is scary.

Maybe the question is what is worse, a person that is stubborn or someone that can change his mind? smile

As for the argument against death penalty, I think the argument is that if you have someone locked up for life if the court found out later that they made mistake, they can free him/her. On the other hand if the court can't resurrect a person if they found out that they were wrong.
181  Non-Gaming / Hardware / Software Hell / Re: [WIN7]Trying to delete 'free Space' to make it 'Unallocated' on: June 22, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
Or get EASEUS Partition Master Home Edition.
182  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Crysis 2 - pulled from Steam! on: June 17, 2011, 07:42:27 AM

Quote from: TiLT on June 15, 2011, 07:30:21 PM

The difference between Valve and EA in this matter is that Steam is an "open" platform where anyone can release games. EA's platform isn't, which means that unless players for some bizarre reason only play EA games, they'll be forced to use multiple download services. Thanks, but no thanks.

I think most gamers here use multiple download services. We buy games mostly from Steam, but some also use Impulse and gog.com. Origin is not that bad since it is just a new version  EA Download Manager with built-in browser to EA Online Store that were renamed to Origin.

I started using EA Download Manager when I found out that IP address from Indonesia allowed me to buy from Singapore EA Store where pricing for new EA games are lower than US pricing.

I got the whole The Sims 3 plus all expansions from EA Store. At first the EA Download Manager didn't have much feature just like gog.com downloader but later EA added the ability to buy games directly and add the ability to download newer games directly to the install path almost like Steam but without the auto patching (which is probably not required since most EA games include patching from launcher).

183  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Army of Darkness Defense iOS FREE on: June 17, 2011, 06:27:51 AM
NOW FREE FOR A VERY LIMITED TIME!!! Get out your boomstick and rev up your chainsaw!

Army of Darkness Defense

Army of Darkness Defense HD

184  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Man, its boring being out of work on: June 17, 2011, 02:41:09 AM

Quote from: Razgon on June 16, 2011, 07:52:15 PM

Thanks guys, some excellent ideas in there. As for the workout, I kinda stopped that when I lost my job, but I'll start monday back on my three times a week in a fitness center - Great idea.

As for charity....not a bad idea, I'll have to look into that.  Not sure what options there are though, but then again, its a pretty good way to use ones time.

I did briefly consider edumiduciating myself further, but not quite sure what and how. I've been in the marketing /costumer / sales / telemarketing business all of my life, even though I have a computer degree.

Its easy to become lost in doing nothing every day though, which is why I get up early every day and do the daily stuff, and now with training as well :-)

As for reading all of Ceekays post? I'm unemployed, not immortal.

I must admit, I *have* been playing Mount and Blade Warband (Prophecy of Pendor) a LOT though...which also gets kinda boring in the long run!

Since you were in sales, why not spend free time to do some freelance sales job while looking for a salary job?
185  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Want an easy way to keep up with the new site? on: June 08, 2011, 04:51:50 AM
Use to add the GamingTrend RSS feed to Google Homepage or Google Reader.
186  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings - Now with Saviors of the Queens! on: May 27, 2011, 07:56:27 AM

Quote from: TiLT on May 27, 2011, 07:26:01 AM

Quote from: Tscott on May 27, 2011, 05:40:17 AM

The patch for the GOG version is only 9MB.

That's because it's an actual patch and not a complete redownload of the massive file. Even so, I can imagine that the patching process takes a long time since it probably has to extract, patch, then repack the file. It's just bad design to use such large files to begin with.

Surprisingly the update process for the GOG version was real fast. On my machine it was about 1 minute to patch to 1.1. Nothing like the update process to convert original The Witcher to the Enhanced version which required a very long patch time.
187  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN - Now coming back online on: May 24, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217028/Sony_says_hacker_stole_2_000_records_from_Canadian_site?taxonomyId=140

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The hacker got access to records for about 2,000 customers, including their names and e-mail addresses and a hashed version of users' passwords, said Ivette Lopez Sisniega, a Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications spokeswoman. "Sony Ericsson has disabled this e-commerce website," she said in an e-mail message. "We can confirm that this is a standalone website and it is not connected to Sony Ericsson servers."
188  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Daily Deals: 5-23 Mini Ninjas + Ubisoft Week! on: May 24, 2011, 01:29:57 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on May 23, 2011, 08:54:30 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 23, 2011, 05:07:45 PM

5-23

Mini Ninjas $6.80

http://store.steampowered.com/app/35000/

also., it's Ubisoft Week. 33% off all Ubisoft titles plus daily deals.

Day 1:  Prince of Persia Day

http://store.steampowered.com/sale/ubisoft_week



Too bad Ubi hasn't seen fit to remove their odious copy protection on Settlers 7.  *sigh*

But they removed the constant online connection part of the DRM on AC2 and AC:B, right? If so I guess I'll get those if Ubisoft has a daily sale of AC series.
189  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama's New Mid East Policy: Israel back to 1967 borders on: May 20, 2011, 12:50:23 AM
Majority of the "half of the country" that they're losing by going back to 1967 border was not part of Israel before 1967, not even if you go all the way back to Israel in Biblical Times.
190  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama's New Mid East Policy: Israel back to 1967 borders on: May 19, 2011, 11:06:54 PM
Genius.

To have a real peace, Israel need to show that they're willing to return what is rightfully belong to the Palestine. Either that or Israel can try to massacre and reduce Palestine population to zero.

191  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings - Now with Saviors of the Queens! on: May 15, 2011, 02:19:25 AM
The best way to stop piracy is to make it easier to purchase games than to pirate.
192  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN down...forever? SOE hit now too!? on: May 14, 2011, 08:26:01 PM

Quote from: ericb on May 14, 2011, 02:28:44 PM

These asshats (person/group responsible for the Sony breach) should be banned from computers and mobile phones forever even if they are minors.  They should also be sentenced to community service every week for life.  As someone who was likely hacked directly because of this breach I have absolutely zero sympathy for any of their excuses.  Not the mention the millions of people whose lost information, will be hacked, have their ID stolen or the billions in lost revenue from the trickle down effects of this.

Do you include Sony employees that were responsible for PSN/SOE?
193  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam EA Week: Day 6 Dead Space Day+ Men of War on: May 08, 2011, 12:47:44 AM
At that price, I was going to get Dead Space 2 but EA/Steam decided to sell at higher price to non US customers so 40% off is $35.99 instead of $23.99. So I get to keep the money in my wallet maybe until next holiday sale.
194  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN down...forever? SOE hit now too!? on: May 06, 2011, 04:03:58 AM
Seem like Sony made a wrong decision by trying to shift blame to anonymous.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20060227-260.html

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An observer of the Internet Relay Chat channel used by the hackers told CNET today that a third major attack is planned this weekend against Sony's Web site. The people involved plan to publicize all or some of the information they are able to copy from Sony's servers, which could include customer names, credit card numbers, and addresses, according to the source. The hackers claim they currently have access to some of Sony's servers.
Should the planned attack succeed, it would be the latest blow in a series of devastating security breaches of Sony's servers over the past month. The failure of Sony's server security has ignited investigations by the FBI, the Department of Justice, Congress, and the New York State Attorney General, a well as data security and privacy authorities in the U.K., Canada, and Taiwan.
195  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PSN down...forever? SOE hit now too!? on: May 05, 2011, 10:34:46 AM
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2068111/sony-anonymous-ddos-attacks-distracted

I guess the decision to sue Geohot turned out to be a very expensive mistake for Sony.
196  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama 1, Osama 0. on: May 05, 2011, 08:48:26 AM

Quote from: brettmcd on May 05, 2011, 05:07:41 AM

So you use worst case numbers for the US, against best case numbers for saddam.   Nice job there, might want to compare the same things, worst case to worst case from the numbers.

Okay, so best case is about equal. The worst case vs worst case? Let's use a very high estimate on the total people killed by Saddam, 2 millions. High enough, right? Then divide that by 24 = 83333 per year. Compare that the worst case for the invasion and occupation 267123 per year. So still doesn't show that Saddam was a greater threat than US invasion and occupation.


197  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama 1, Osama 0. on: May 05, 2011, 08:43:56 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on May 05, 2011, 05:13:22 AM

The numbers you're using are in general terms.  The invasion as a whole may have been a threat, but you can't lay every last civilian death on the U.S. forces.  I'm sure the insurgents had their own tally of bodies in those numbers, as U.S. forces aren't prone to detonating truck bombs in the middle of marketplaces.  

Yes, living in a war zone is a dangerous thing.  But which has the better long term outlook?  Assume an equal per-year risk of death.  Would you rather live in a war zone with the prospect of a safer government and society after a few years or continue to live in a society where the people that purport to govern you after their landslide re-election that rapes, pillages, and murders its own citizens with the added prospect that when the dictator dies, one of his kids is going to take over and keep going?

While I can't lay every last civilian death on the US force, those death are indirectly caused by the invasion. If US didn't invade, there is no reason for the freedom fighter or terrorist to detonate truck bombs in the middle of a marketplace. So who did the killing doesn't matter, those civilian death were still caused by US attacking Iraq. There would not be any anti-US insurgents killing Iraqi if US didn't invade Iraq.

People who choose to living in a war zone with the prospect of a safer government after a few years are fool since there is a good chance you won't survive long enough to reach that future.
198  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama 1, Osama 0. on: May 05, 2011, 05:01:43 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on May 05, 2011, 04:41:40 AM

There's the Al Anfal Campaign:

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The Anfal campaign began in 1986 and lasted until 1989, and was headed by Ali Hassan al-Majid (a cousin of then Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein from Saddam's hometown of Tikrit). The Anfal campaign included the use of ground offensives, aerial bombing, systematic destruction of settlements, mass deportation, firing squads, and chemical warfare, which earned al-Majid the nickname of "Chemical Ali".

Thousands of civilians were killed during the anti-insurgent campaigns stretching from the spring of 1987 through the fall of 1988. The attacks were part of a long-standing campaign that destroyed approximately 4,500 Kurdish village in areas of northern Iraq and displaced at least a million of the country's estimated 3.5 million Kurdish population. Independent sources estimate 1,100,000 to more than 2,150,000 deaths and as many as 860,000 widows and an even greater number of orphans. Amnesty International collected the names of more than 17,000 people who had "disappeared" during 1988.[6] The campaign has been characterized as genocidal in nature. It is also characterized as gendercidal, because "battle-age" men were the primary targets, according to Human Rights Watch/Middle East.[7] According to the Iraqi prosecutors, as many as 182,000 people were killed.[8]

As to others:

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Others have estimated 800,000 deaths caused by Saddam not counting the Iran-Iraq war.[38] Estimates as to the number of Iraqis executed by Saddam's regime vary from 300-500,000[39] to over 600,000,[40] estimates as to the number of Kurds he massacred vary from 70,000 to 300,000, and estimates as to the number killed in the put-down of the 1991 rebellion vary from 60,000[42] to 200,000.[40] Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000.

Using the low estimate of 300,000 across his tenure of 24 years ('79 to '03) equates to 12,500 per year on average.  

Okay and the casualties caused by the invasion and occupation?

Maybe use this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

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Source   Iraqi casualties   Time period
Iraq Family Health Survey   151,000 deaths   March 2003 to June 2006
Lancet survey   601,027 violent deaths out of 654,965 excess deaths   March 2003 to June 2006
Opinion Research Business survey   1,033,000 deaths as a result of the conflict   March 2003 to August 2007
Associated Press   110,600 deaths   March 2003 to April 2009
Iraq Body Count project   98,170 — 107,152 civilian deaths as a result of the conflict. 150,726 civilian and combatant deaths[1]   March 2003 to October 2010
WikiLeaks. Classified Iraq war logs[1][2][3][4]   104,924 recorded iraqi deaths, including 92,003[5] (or 66,081[6]) civilian deaths.   January 2004 to December 2009

Now the per year statistic:
Iraq Family Heatlh Survey 151,000 divides by 2.25 years = 67111 per year.
Lancet survey  601,027 divides by 2.25 years = 267123 per year.
Opinion Research Business 1,033,000 divides by 4.41 years = 234240 per year.
Associated Press 110,600 divides by 6.08 years = 18190 per year
Iraqi Body Count 98,170 divides by 7.58 years = 12951 per year
Wikileaks 66081 divides by 6 years = 11013 per year

Based on that the casualties rate is between 11023 per year with the low estimate to 267123 per year versus 12500 per year during Saddam era. So the US invasion on the best estimate save about 1500 per year or with worst estimate kill 250000 more per year.

Doesn't seem like Saddam was a bigger threat to Iraqi compare to US. At best, it was about equally bad for Iraqi. At worst, US invasion was much bigger threat to Iraqi.

199  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama 1, Osama 0. on: May 05, 2011, 04:30:59 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on May 05, 2011, 04:26:28 AM

I regret the loss of civilian life in any war, but it does happen.  And the regime that we deposed was a bigger threat to Iraqi civilians than we ever were.  Ask the Kurds.

Any number to back that up? How many civilians killed per year during Saddam rule, how many civilians killed per year during the invasion and occupation of Iraq? Who caused more deaths? Ask the Iraqis.

200  Non-Gaming / Political / Religious Nonsense / Re: Obama 1, Osama 0. on: May 04, 2011, 04:36:41 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on May 04, 2011, 03:37:09 PM

Quote from: Purge on May 03, 2011, 07:35:20 PM

You know that managing people means managing numbers, right? Death count matters, and while I don't agree that the entire 9/11 fiasco was staged, it's not beyond plausible. Killing the figurehead without trial certainly isn't going to quiet those accusations (even though he is a known terrorist).

The fact that you even bring up the possibility of 9/11 being staged is asinine.

While I don't think that 9/11 was being staged (by Americans or US allies), it is still better to capture Osama alive so that there are more intel info that they can get out of him that can help bring down Al Qaeda.

Of course, we don't know for sure that Osama is really dead because there is no corpse and the story about how Osama died kept changing. First the story was US had the body. Then they didn't have it because they buried him at sea to respect Islam rule about burial within 24 hours. First the story was Osama was killed when he grabbed a rifle. Then the story changed to Osama was unarmed. First Osama used his wife as human shield and the wife died, later the story changed to the wife assaulted the US soldiers but survived.

That made it hard to believe anything that the US government told us. So maybe Osama is still alive and being held in secret, but that is also hard to believe since US government seem to be so bad at it. I would think that a government that can fake Osama's death and then held him in secret should be better at getting their story straight.
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