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8401  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [Xbox 360] Saints Row demo on the Marketplace! on: August 02, 2006, 02:49:18 AM
And there's word that the Dead Rising demo will be up soon too.

So, GTA clone with Gangstas or GTA clone with zombies...

I go with zombies.  Tongue
8402  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Perfect Dark Zero - Huge Hit or Colossal Failure? on: July 31, 2006, 05:28:06 AM
Multiplayer is interesting, but the sluggish aiming will get on your nerves there too.  It creates a real problem with the guns being so accurate, the aiming is so sluggish, and the players moving so quickly that the experienced players of the game who have mastered the aiming will simply waste everyone.  Normally this is okay because that's just how MP games are, but in PDZ, instead of learning the tactics of the game you're just fighting with the aiming system.

Not to mention the funkyness of the weaponry in this game, some guns have up to 4 functions, that may seem good but all the buttons you need to know to use them are weird.

Still, despite all those problems, I'd buy this game for $20, especially if they come through on the Counter-Op mode.

I'd actually like to see them continue the series, maybe remake Perfect Dark 1.
8403  Gaming / Analog Gaming / No More E3?! on: July 31, 2006, 05:15:44 AM
I suspect E3 will go through some serious changes, but I doubt the show will go away entirely, at least not for a long time.

The show does have its uses, but lately it had gotten a little too flashy for what's supposed to be a trademan only show.
8404  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [PS3] Entitlements? WTF? on: July 30, 2006, 07:25:12 AM
Why don't they just call them awards or trophies?
8405  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What the...Ninety-Nine Nights demo up in the marketplace! on: July 29, 2006, 11:53:03 PM
Now, if the story and characters had actually been interesting, a lot more people would have bought it

Why are these developers and publishers shooting themselves in the foot by not hiring decent writers and voice actors?  By not using them, and having cliched stories with uninteresting character they're missing out on one of the biggest hooks to get people to buy, a feeling of attachment to characters and involvement in the plot.

Face it, the gameplay is rehashed Dynasty Warriors.  It looks prettier, has a lot more going on, but ultimately it's a bland rehash.  If they had gone with a more interesting story and shown a good slice of it during the demo, a lot more players would be interested in buying instead of just getting their fill of the game.

Oh, and the way they handle item drops is just plain stupid.  First you need a massive combo count to have items start dropping, but by the time you get this count, you've usually already killed most enemies on screen.  So now all those one use items have their timers run out while running to the next fight,

The equippable items are more interesting.  I managed to get two clovers early in the game (+ to item drop chance) which meant any time I got past that combo number I'd get items up the wazoo.  But, I'm not really into the whole diablo style item collecting.

So, no story, no good multiplayer, no buy.  It's a rental for me.
8406  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 29, 2006, 07:51:05 AM
Quote from: "stiffler"
Finally, the sniper rounds seem a bit weak to me.  When combined with the agonizingly slow refresh rate.  They are no doubt nice if parked on a hill with all the time in the world, but I've not had much success with them.  It seems if you are looking for that role artillery would be a better investment.  Maybe I'm just using the wrong rounds.  I hated the sniper missions in the single-player mode.


Sniper rounds should be weak, you're supposed to load up with 2-3 of them firing at a time.  They're also pinpoint accurate at very long range, can you imagine how the game would devolve into a counter-strikeish sniper war if they were better?

That said, they still have their uses.  In particular, you can use sniper weapons for various tasks in support of your teammates.  If you're fighting fast movers, shoot the base which usually has low durability, then pop their generator to slow them down even more.

If you're fighting heavier guys, target their weapons and assists.  Someone have a missile counter that's defeating a teammate's missiles?  One volley should take it out.  Artillery beating up your teammates?  Blow up those heavy guns and make that behemoth useless.  Enemy have a commander?  Take out his NA attachment, which always is on top and not easily hidden behind hills.  Is it a night mission?  Pick off the enemy night and thermal vision parts.  Short on time and the last enemy running?  Deal that final blow on him since he should be weakened from the battle.

So, don't think if yourself as a kill shooter when you're playing sniper, work to support your teammates with precision fire.  Your weapons might not do so much damage to the enemy cockpit, but they can pick apart a hound piece by piece.
8407  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 29, 2006, 04:54:59 AM
Stiffler, try adding on a thermal vision part on to your scout.

Thermal vision can see through smoke, allowing you to create your own concealment and fire from it.

Alternatively, you can go in close, fire smoke right on top of the guy, activate thermal vision, and strafe him to death while he can't see.
8408  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What the...Ninety-Nine Nights demo up in the marketplace! on: July 28, 2006, 10:07:28 PM
It's okay that you don't like the game as a whole, but please don't insult us simply because we really enjoy the multiplayer game.

We've gone over many, many times, the single player mode sucks for those game.  Simply, plainly, flat out sucks.  But the multiplayer for this game is heaven for those that like this style of game.

That said, even I see problems with the game, and I'm actually looking forward to other big robot games.  I know armored core 4 is coming out on the 360, and I'm hoping Steel Battalion or Mechwarrior (not mechassault) gets a sequel on the system.
8409  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / NEWS : (360) Fusion Frenzy 2 announced for a 2006 release on: July 28, 2006, 07:33:04 PM
Hell, I would buy a kiddy game for the 360 for 4 player gameplay any day.

Fusion Frenzy just happens to be the first party game released for the 360.
8410  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / What the...Ninety-Nine Nights demo up in the marketplace! on: July 28, 2006, 07:29:58 PM
Weird.  How well does Dynasty Warriors get reviewed in Japan?  I suspect it's more like the Japanese are just as tired of the Dynasty Warriors games as we are, and NNN was more of the same.

I already knew the 360 could handle huge fights after what I saw in Kameo, so NNN was very interesting to me.
8411  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 28, 2006, 05:25:15 AM
Just so you all know, I've left the squad so another spot is open on the GT Team.  I don't have the money or time to buy Chromehounds right now so I'll probably buy it sometime down the line, probably when the price point drops to $40.

Sad thing is, I just found a commander build that I really liked, enormous range, two sniper cannons, and decent speed just in case I needed to run away.
8412  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 27, 2006, 07:17:51 PM
The reason why the comm sent you out in a heavy base might have been that he didn't know what kind of hound you were running.  They really need some sort of quick read out that the comm can use.  Since people switch hounds so often, I find it difficult to keep track of who is using what and the lack of indicators doesn't help.

I'm thinking that they need a dedicated commander's screen.  Something like you hold down the Y button instead of just tapping it and you go into a Battlefield 2 style command screen with more options, albiet you have less awareness of things around you.  In this screen you can place waypoints for squad members and maybe do special commander things like place artilly fire orders, or even something like radar relay, where you can pinpoint an enemy hound on the player's map for a short amount of time.

Players also need a compass at the top of their screen that includes a waypoint indicator.  The compass on the sonar screen is a little too wonky to use properly.

I think we need to have everyone put their numbers on multiple areas of their hound to make identification a little easier.  When I next jump online that's what I'll be doing.
8413  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Fight Night 3 question/help on: July 27, 2006, 06:12:13 AM
Switch your controls to setup 3, this'll map your basic punches to the four buttons.

In the full game, the manual includes all the moves in the TPK system.  Look on gamefaqs for the list.

Hopkins is a power fighter, not a fast hitter.  His punches are slow, but when you connect he'll feel it.  One reason why your fighter will slow down and do less damage is how tired he is.  If you throw too many punches, especially power punches, in a short time it'll tire your fighter and make any further punches slower and weaker.

If you're getting hit too much, block.  In fact, always be blocking in at least one area when you're not punching, usually you'll want to cover the face.

Back Roy Jones into corner, then you can wail away with as many hard hooks as you want.
8414  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Lan Party friendly? SW: EAW, Rise of Legends, or BFME2? on: July 27, 2006, 06:06:51 AM
Are you looking primarily for strategy games?
8415  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 26, 2006, 07:39:45 PM
Yep, different people are good at different things.

Tactics down on the battlefield is something I'm just good at.  Give me a unit and an objective and I'll take it.  However, don't ask me to handle logistics and industry like in most RTS games because I couldn't manage those to save my life.  If I ever joined the military I suspect I'd be a great squad or platoon leader.

The same goes for close in fighting.  I can handle close in fighting, but close fighting with hounds is something I'm not good at.

My NA build suits my personality.  Since I'm a tactical guy I have the NA, but since I'm on the ground with my troops, I'm expected to fight and back them up when needed.  My cannons allow me to fight at medium to medium/long range.  So, if I planned the fight correctly I can back my teammates up from a safe distance dropping cannon shells where they need to be.  After a few volleys I switch back to the command map to make sure the battle is progressing well, bark off some more commands and go back to shooting.

I think I may switch to a quad leg design so I can put a longer range NA on my commander unit, along with some useful options like mines.  I may try and make an artillery design, but aiming those take too much work and I'd rather be using that time to command.
8416  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / DOA 4 Demo on XBL on: July 26, 2006, 07:22:05 PM
Um, saying it's better than RRXX to justify it not sucking is like comparing one mound of poo to another.  Tongue
8417  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 26, 2006, 06:28:19 AM
My NA defender is a nice surprise.  It even works in a squad with a dedicated commander.

Basically I have the heaviest Morskoj base, an experimental Morskoj medium cockpit with higher durability, 4 sal kar cannons with the highest damage HEAT rounds, and a Sal Kar NA with limited range.  I don't have much NA range, but with Combas towers I can usually see incoming threats.  The best thing is that since I have an NA, I'm less likely to get jumped at close range, so not having close ranged weaponry isn't a problem.

My four cannons fire in a tight pattern thanks to some stability systems, one or two volleys will usually blow out the base on anything I target, then with them slower down I can take my time to kill the cockpit (or just plink at the base until enough damage transfers to the cockpit).

I don't think they really thought out the whole money, parts limitations, and ammo costs thing.

First of all, money is just too easy to get.  Fight the AI, go individual missions, etc...  So that makes any of the limiting systems that are based on money pointless.

All someone has to do to get parts from other nations is to switch sides for whatever reason.  Then, when he buys the parts they'll always be in his inventory.  So, having that hound part differentiation between the three nations is kinda pointless.  They need to include more ways to differentiate the nations.  

Some ideas include:
Making maintenance for non allied nation parts higher.
Parts of other nations degrade in performance over a few missions.
Ranks are gained on a nation basis, with new parts available only if you have enough rank with that nation.  If you switch sides those rank based parts are unavailable.

Then, there's no reason at all not to use the most powerful ammo type that you can put in a gun.  Since money can be earned easily, just load up with the best possible round and have at it.  This makes some weapons ridiculously strong, especially the Heavy Cannons.  This is especially true to heavy cannons.

Also, heavy cannons are way too effective, people have now started loading them on soldier designs.  I just fought I guy who used two heavy guns as close in weapons and with their massive splash damage and disorientation I had no way to respond to his attack.  He didn't even have to aim to kill me.  I think they really need to rebalance them, adding something like a minimum range to arm, reduced damage (and keep the large splash), reduced splash radius (keep the damage), dramatically increased reload.  One of the biggest problems with these guns is how much simply getting caught in the splash will disorient you.  It'll rotate your view 90+ degrees and throw up a ton of smoke.  There's no way to respond in time before the enemy has reloaded and fires again.  It's an exercise in frustration.  Sure, rockets will do the same, but those require a direct hit to disorient, and require you to get close to the enemy, and can be dodged.


Now, for my take on commanding.  Commanding isn't just knowing where the enemy is and telling your pilots to go in guns blazing.  To get the most out of a squad, it's best to know each player's hounds and develop a strategy.

My usual strategy is somewhat reserved.  Since my NA is short ranged, I usually send out my squad to nab the surrounding COMBAS individually.  It's important that I spot the enemy first, but not so that I can get the first shot.  Instead I want to plan the the attack so I can fire at them from multiple angles with as much numerical superiority as I can.  To do that, I have to be aware of how the terrain lies.

Because of this, I tell my pilots to plan their routes carefully.  Always make sure that as you advance you have a hill nearby that you can run behind.  Take note of routes that will leave you less exposed to fire in case you have a long route back to get help.  This also helps if you encounter two or more enemies while you're alone.  If you planned your route well enough, you can usually put some obstruction between you and one of the enemies to reduce the amount of people you're fighting at once.

If you encounter the enemy, be prepared to break off contact at your commander's orders so you can draw the enemy into an ambush.  Whatever you do, don't let the enemy choose where you fight.

Usually, when my pilots encounter the enemy, I have them maintain position if or back off only if he has short ranged weapons or if outgunned.  If I've located all the enemy hounds I vector my other pilots to creep around the sides.  As the flankers get into position, I order the lead to pull back while still shooting at the enemy.  The enemy, having a gotten a taste of a fight will usually pursue.  By then, if my other pilots have done their job they've gotten into position behind hills or other obstructions without being seen.  When the enemy comes into the killzone I let the players have it, but tell them to focus on the lead.

If there isn't enough space or obstacles to use such a plan, I usually have them stick together, but have the lead go first over hills and such, using the same tactic if he sees enemies, he'll get their attention and draw then to the hill.  Since most hounds move at different speeds, it's likely that only one hound will come over/around the hill first, letting my squad focus all their attacks on the lead, destroying him hopefully before the next enemy comes into view.

The goal here is to make sure that you're not fighting 1 on 1 unless you have a big advantage.  If you fight 1 on 1, you may or may not win, but it's very likely that you'll be just as damaged as the other guy, so then his friend behind him can take you out.  On top of that, it's likely that any enemy you encounter has friends nearby, so as soon as you dedicate yourself to taking out one guy, you won't notice the other hounds sneaking to your flanks.

Don't think that just because you're in a group you're safe either.  The enemy will travel in groups, and it's likely that he's spotted your big group first and will find a better attack position.  Two big groups encountering each other in the open is basically the same as a 1 on 1 situation, which is never a good thing.

The only case where I let my pilots go one on one is when they have a big advantage like a surprise attack from the rear, when the enemy is heavily damaged, or when we have numerical and COMBAS superiority.

Playing with this strategy in mind tonight, we were getting some very nice victories over human opponents, usually losing only 1 hound if any, with varying amounts of damage on others.  It also helped that my NA defender had some kick to it, so while my pilots were fighting, I could position myself (using the radar) to drop cannon rounds on the enemy from the side or rear.
8418  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Sword of the Stars..more info on: July 26, 2006, 05:03:53 AM
I'm up for it, let me know when you can play.

How many players can play at once?
8419  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Serenity - Movie on: July 25, 2006, 12:26:37 AM
Well to be honest, they had to deal with a lot of issues for the movie, namely distilling what would be 1-2 seasons worth of character and plot into one movie.

I'm still hoping that Universal (the owners of the scifi channel) smartens up and puts some money towards turning Serenity into a new series on their network.  They already have a pilot, just air the movie.
8420  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 24, 2006, 09:42:18 PM
That unidentied weapon in that video is actually a special encounter in the online war.

Certain zones will have these fortress hounds active and if you take a mission there you'll be fighting it.

It's said that there's one for each faction.

You also get a special achievement if you destroy it.
8421  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Next Gen Star Wars Trailer on: July 23, 2006, 03:20:41 PM
The reason why it looks prerendered is that the enemies are dynamically reacting to new positioning using the AI muscle movement system.

Basically they have AI controlling basic muscle movements so that the AI will actually do things like reach out to grab ledges if they're falling, dynamically get up after falling no matter how they land, etc...

In this video, you see a stormtrooper grab on to a ledge while being thrown around by force powers.  This is part of that AI system and you can see how he holds on tight as the jedi yanks him away.
8422  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / AMD Price Cut Chart on: July 19, 2006, 07:37:01 AM
Wow, I'm glad I waited so long to build a new PC.  That's a huge drop on the higher end 64 X2 models.
8423  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 19, 2006, 07:35:03 AM
Recommending the nato phonetic alphabet was more a response to some people who had trouble hearing which letters I was speaking over the microphone.

Besides, it's pretty easy to tell which letter is being spoken in the alphabet, it usually starts off the word.

Also, it makes us sound a little cooler spouting off these instead of yelling "No not D, B as in boy!"  Tongue

As much as I wanted to stay Tarakian, I do like the new weaponry Sal Kar have.  My current defender design was only possible with the light weight of Sal Kar arms.  However, there's almost no point in bidding for captured parts unless those parts are better than the standard ones.

I think the Tarakian victory was a product of the word of mouth that the multiplayer for this game is getting.  US players, after getting out initially bad reviews, jumped online after a week of hearing so much about it.

We've already established that the SP simply sucks.  They should have clearly marketed it as more of an MP game instead of releasing trailers and such that make it seem more SP oriented.

Also, I wish there was a way to observe or record matches, at least in free play mode.  I'd have liked to see how certain battles unfolded.
8424  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Going to San Diego Comic Con on: July 19, 2006, 06:12:54 AM
Anyone else going to comic con?

I'm heading there with a group of friends tomorrow and staying until Sunday.  Just wondering if anyone else from the forum is heading there.  Maybe we can meet up.
8425  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Valve Portal video released on: July 19, 2006, 04:01:14 AM
Since episode 1 did not require you to have HL2, I don't think you'll need HL2 for episode 2 and its add-ons.

Okay guys, so as cool as this portal game looks, let me say four words:

Garry's Mod with portals



Can you imagine how fun that would be?
8426  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / This better not be true.. [PSP2] on: July 19, 2006, 03:44:35 AM
I didn't buy a PSP1, which is kinda why I'm interested in a PSP2.

The PSP2 isn't entirely a bad idea, so long as they keep its functions realistic.

But first of all, they need to put on two analog sticks.  That little slide nib thing with the velcro feel just doesn't cut it and for the kind of games

Second they need to allow games to be played from the memory stick, or perhaps through some propietary format that's small like the DS has.  On these smaller cartridges smaller developers can put little games, like those the DS has thus creating a market of smaller, quick loading, instant fun games.

Just like the DS has.

Then, once you have that install base, companies will consider putting out bigger games for the system.
8427  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 19, 2006, 03:40:55 AM
I would have been perfectly happy staying with Tarakia and fighting to get our capitol back for the entire war.
8428  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Current best soccer game for the 360? on: July 19, 2006, 03:33:02 AM
Not like there's much choice, but there's Winning Elevel 9, FIFA 2006, FIFA Road to the World Cup, and FIFA World Cup.

I'm just wondering what's the best to buy for someone who's not a fan, but wants to play it.

Basically my uncle wants me to buy a soccer game for my 360, and he'll pay for it.  But I don't follow sports games at all.
8429  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Valve Portal video released on: July 19, 2006, 01:28:59 AM
It uses the source engine, albiet with portal technology added in by Valve.  So you could say it's a mod since it uses HL2 textures.

These days the line between mod and game is blurry, which isn't actually a bad thing.
8430  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / [360] NCAA 2007 Demo on Marketplace today! on: July 18, 2006, 11:38:06 PM
They can do this because they bought the exclusive NFL license.

Just look what they're doing with FIFA, three FIFA games in less than a year.
8431  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / I f'ing hate summer on: July 18, 2006, 11:36:12 PM
On the other hand, here in SoCal there are plenty of scantily clad women walking around these days, especially around campus.  Tongue
8432  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / For those having XBL Connection issues with Chromehounds on: July 18, 2006, 10:04:36 PM
Well, port 80 is one that's used.  88 is for something called kerberos, it deals with network security and if it has such a low port number, I'd rather not fool around with it.
8433  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 18, 2006, 09:57:08 PM
Gentlemen.  I suggest for future ops we adopt the Nato Phonetic alphabet to make it easier for us to give directions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet

I just returned the game to the rental place.  Except now I'm sure that I'll buy it only because the MP is good and there's a lot of people online I can play with.  Only problem is that I'm going to Comic Con wed-sun so I can't buy it yet, let alone play it.

I still think it needs a lot more work, but for now it's the main Live game I like.
8434  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / For those having XBL Connection issues with Chromehounds on: July 18, 2006, 09:53:52 PM
Um, I think that guide is wrong.  I'm damn sure that port 88 is a port that's commonly used on the web, it might be FTP for telnet, or something.
8435  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Valve Portal video released on: July 18, 2006, 09:25:47 PM
Holy hell, now this is how portals should have been used in Prey.  Simply put, you have to see this video.  If you thought the portals in prey were interesting, well let's just say that Valve takes portals to a whole other level  by giving control to the player.

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/9096/Portal+Game+Trailer/

edit: Link Added
8436  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 18, 2006, 07:52:18 AM
My new defender is performing well.  Four cannons with the highest grade HEAT shells, courtesy of Sal Kar, and three shotguns that fire two rounds each time, and reload quickly, also courtesy of Sal Kar.  

Sal Kar weapons are quite light, and don't lose much power.  Their rockets seem to travel slower than the Mojorsk or Tarakian rockets.  The durability on Sal Kar weapons are low though, so aim well with your first vollies.

Then all on top of a tough defender cockpit and treads, from the ruskies faction.

I've got a killing machine.
8437  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Some Interesting EGM rumors - Square Enix Specific on: July 18, 2006, 07:47:20 AM
By the way, they're making a FFVIII-2.  That's right, Squall, Rinoa, and the gang from one of the worst FF games are back.

And yes, just like FFX-2 they made some dumbass fanservice changes to characters.  Rinoa, in particular, now looks like a slut.

Not that her looking like a slut in an outfit is a bad thing, but all the time in game?  Come on.

FF must stand for fading funds or something.
8438  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 17, 2006, 01:44:42 PM
I think loading all weapons for one range on a hound is fine, so long as you have someone else in the squad covering other ranges.  You'll also need a commander to make sure that you won't be ambushed by enemy hounds.

I think the best way is to focus on one range band, but have a backup for a second as a way to constantly deal damage to the enemy.
8439  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Chromehounds - NOW WITH IMPRESSIONS on: July 17, 2006, 07:51:20 AM
Tarakia just fell.  Just too many people on Morskoj.

I had some just nasty fights 1 on 1.

If you ever want ideas for mech designs, and ever really want to know if your mech is effective, fight 1 on 1 battles.

There was one Morkoj soldier who had a very strange mech.  I'm sure he must have some high end parts to get his mech to perform the way it did.  Basically, he was almost as fast as a scout, let's say 200 speed.  He was armed with four rocket pods and two machineguns.  This was all sitting on a defender cockpit (high durability) and reverse bipedal legs.  His basic plan is to just circle strafe you to death, using rockets to disorient you and plinking away with machineguns while the rockets reload.  He moved so fast that he was difficult to keep in view, even in my defender which has a very high rotation rate.

Oh, and I see too many people trying to do too many things with one mech.  Don't do it.  If you make a soldier mech, be a soldier.  Have weapons for only two ranges that are adjacent, so only short and med, or short and long.

Having a lot of one type of weapon is a lot better than having a lot of many different types.  This allows you to do a lot of damage with a single volley, than having to constantly switch between weapon groups.

Speaking of which, for medium to short range fighters, make your configs so that you only have two or three main weapon groups (as above, these correspond to the main types of weapons you mount).  When fighting close, the time it takes to switch weapon groups and reorient your weapons could spell death for you.

Now let me tell you about using the right base for the job.  Not everyone should use the tread or 4 legged base.  If you're mounting what's basically soldier type weapons on a slow 4 legged base, you're not going to be too effective against humans.  Why?  Because you're slow and the opponent can set the pace of battle.  Close in fighting needs a lot of agility and speed to quickly dodge rockets and gunfire, the two legged bases have that.  Sure, you can't pack in as many weapons on to a two legged base, but what good is it to be bristling with weapons when you lag behind the main fight or get surrounded?

Don't be afraid to retreat.  Let me say that again, don't be afraid to retreat.  And for that matter, don't be afraid to give up the chase.

I've seen too many people get blown away because they rush forward, see one enemy and chase him.  Inevitably, they run run smack dab into the three other friends he has.

Take a look at what weapons you have, if your loadout is primarily medium ranged stuff, then stay at medium range.  If backing up means putting a hill between you and him then just keep backing up.  If you have a good comm, he'll have zeroed in your teammates to be waiting on the other side of the hill so that when he finally comes over the top, they'll be there waiting.

If you engage someone, don't be so quick to close in on him.  Remember that while you probably can take him out one on one, he'll do just as much damage to you back.  Better to wait for teammates or for your commander to organize

Always stay aware of your surroundings.  Don't start a fight without a good hill or obstacle nearby in case you get overwhelmed.
8440  Non-Gaming / Trading Forum / Steel Battalion on: July 17, 2006, 12:16:14 AM
I'm kinda hoping they make Steel Battalion 2 for the 360, but this time make a way for someone with a normal controller to play.  If you really think about it, it wouldn't be that difficult to get it to work.  A lot of those extra functions could be put on a cascading menu accessed by the dpad.

Make multiplayer part of the game from the start.

Then anyone who wants an advantage can buy the full double stick setup for that insane price.
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