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7961  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Sins of a Solar Empire - Beta Musings on: March 29, 2007, 05:27:08 PM
One thing they touted was the ability to pay to train your capitol ships to give them upgrades, or some kind of benefit.  This was supposed to let less militaristic empires pay to have their ships be of much higher quality without going to war constantly.  Can you check if training is in the game?

The training element is really lost in a lot of these kind of games, I've only seen it in X-Com Apocalypse.
7962  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Why Insomniac thinks the PS3 is best on: March 29, 2007, 05:41:43 AM
Let me clarify.

I'm not saying Gears wasn't a system seller, just that it wasn't a system seller to me, and that I actually think it's a very overrated game.  Not to say that I wasn't interested in the game or that it wasn't fun to play.

I have a 360 only because my father impulse bought it for my little sister.  She has since taken over my Wii while I have the 360.  On the whole, none of the titles I've played so far on the 360 would have sold me on the system.  Neither alone or taken as a whole library.  With the future release of mass effect, had I not already had a 360, that game would have pushed me over the buy threshold (along with the titles already released) for a 360.

Likewise with the PS3.  I'm interested in resistance, home, littlebigplanet, and a few other games.  But no one game currently makes me interested in buying the system.  That could very well change and games like LittleBigPlanet, Killzone, FF13, etc... could push me over the buy threshold much like Mass Effect.

So while people here are arguing left and right who's system is better and what's a system seller and what's not, my post was meant to remind people that what determines a system seller is different for each person, and often it can either be as simple as a single game that makes someone buy, but also the whole library of current and upcoming games.  What has the PS3 shown that's worth getting so far?  Not a whole lot, but neither did the 360 this many months after its release.  It's taken a year to start getting the really interesting games out, I suspect it'll take the same for the PS3.

It's the same argument that's been going back and forth.  I think in general I'll avoid these 360 vs PS3 threads from now on, these just give me a headache when in reality all I want to do is play the damn games on any system.
7963  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C 3 Impressions on: March 29, 2007, 02:45:46 AM
Actually, the lead developer said that was the target time he was shooting for.
7964  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica - Season 3 finale on: March 29, 2007, 02:40:49 AM
There was a post by the show's composer about the song.  He wrote and recorded it over 3 months when the producers asked him specifically to write a new version of Dylan/Hendix's song.  The idea was that what if there was a musician on Caprica or another of the 12 colonies that just happened to write the same song, but with the musical stylings of the 12 colonies, pulling from the same ethereal inspiration that Dylan pulled from?

So the song will probably be clarified in next season, and is likely to be a big tie in between the 12 Colonies and Earth.  It was also a deliberate decision and a long term one at that.

Also, I like the song, I'll probably pickup the Season 3 soundtrack just for it.
7965  Non-Gaming / Forum and Site Feedback / Re: Need Moderator Action ASAP Re: Reefer Madness-Do not view posts NSFW on: March 29, 2007, 02:25:48 AM
Can someone fill me in on the deal with this Crowley guy?  I'm just curious as to what this guy's problem is.  You can send the info via PM if you want to keep it out of the forum at large.

I got one of his messages before, thankfully I'm not overly disturbed by such images, but I really have to wonder about the mental health of someone who does stuff like this.
7966  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: STALKER GOLD! on: March 29, 2007, 02:09:12 AM
Might want to wait a few more patches for the true vision of this game.  It looks like this patch just puts in the current vision of the game that was supposed to be in on release.  There's still plenty of problems.

I think they could actually go a bit farther with the item types and item degradation.  Maybe certain types of food spoils, but some foods have a quality too them that gives more endurance, etc...

I'd also really, really like to see more AI teammates and use thereof.  If I save someone or makes friends with someone through quests and such, there should be more tangible benefits besides trade.  Maybe I can get him, or faction buddies to help out on a mission.
7967  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jump Ultimate Stars for the DS! on: March 29, 2007, 01:41:25 AM
Actually, the video says it's around 1 minute each to download, you don't get a choice of decks, they just randomly give you one of 3 premade decks, and there's only once stage.

So in essence, it's a demo more than full play through downloading, but that's actually what I was expecting.
7968  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: STALKER GOLD! on: March 29, 2007, 01:35:53 AM
With the patch, I'm also assuming that guns will now degrade if they didn't before, and will probably degrade at a steady rate.

I hope they keep patching, albiet without invalidating savegames.  If they can add back a lot of the features of the original STALKER specs that'd be perfect.

I took a bunch of screenshots for my AAR, but now I can't find them.  Anyone know where Stalker stores its screenshots?
7969  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C 3 Impressions on: March 29, 2007, 01:27:42 AM

Hey, you were the guys who were okay with the big push towards fast gameplay.  Five minutes in right?  It's not a rush, it's a mid game main offensive.  slywink

Although seriously, they actually made the game so that multiplayer was over in 10 minutes or so.  The idea sounds good to people used to playing counter-strike, but not so much for strategy or tactical games.
7970  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Why Insomniac thinks the PS3 is best on: March 29, 2007, 01:20:36 AM
Yep.  Not too interested in the PS3 yet simply because not too many games are out for it.  I'm waiting to see what Sony does for its first party exclusives, and what other exclusives they fund in the future.

The only reason I have a 360 was that it was an impulse buy by my father.  Because simply put, I'm actually not that interested in most 360 games despite enjoying playing them immensely, none of the games I've played on the 360 have been system sellers to me.

Frankly, if the games are good, I'll buy a system.  I'm not going to go out of my way to jump on the latest negative news.
7971  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: STALKER GOLD! on: March 28, 2007, 06:14:45 AM
I'm actually glad I patched despite being a good ways into the game.  Performance increased, and long with a driver update I can now run the game at 1024x768 as opposed to 800x600.

There's also a lot more stuff to use money on.  Right at the start the trader had an upgraded gun for a lot of money.

It takes fewer shots with the starting pistol to kill a bandit.

I've started my playthrough and taking notes as to interesting happenings.
7972  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Well, they're shutting down Metal Gear Online.... on: March 28, 2007, 06:08:10 AM
Can you still play local games?
7973  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Favorite video game grenades? on: March 28, 2007, 04:53:44 AM
Do Half-Life 1's Snarks count as a grenade type?  Because those little buggers were awesome.  They didn't explode, but they were just plain fun to use, and cute too.
7974  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C 3 Impressions on: March 28, 2007, 04:51:17 AM
Well, I wouldn't mind a few MP games with the speed set one or two notches lower.  I figure that's about the speed I can handle.
7975  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jump Ultimate Stars for the DS! on: March 28, 2007, 04:21:59 AM
Well friend, that just cinched the deal for me.  I've got a bunch of DS players that also happen to be anime fans here on campus.

I was wondering about the download play (which I assume allows the multiplayer game to be played on multiple DSs with only one cartridge) because no one else here has the game.

Oh and I'm quite sure I'd find the DS very enjoyable, I just also want the PSP too.  But I'll wait for the PSP 2 (ouch, bad pun) since there's a lot of things I don't like about the current PSP.
7976  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C 3 Impressions on: March 28, 2007, 02:53:33 AM
Well, that pushes this game towards buyable for me, however, can the speed be changed in the single player campaign?

But not quite willing to spend yet unless they have copies at Fry's for sale.
7977  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica - Season 3 finale on: March 28, 2007, 12:22:41 AM
They do have a general outline of where to go.

However, not even Babylon 5 planned specific things that far in advance.

Frankly, doesn't matter if they came up with it a year, a week, or a day in advance.  If it's well written into the story then it works.
7978  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: STALKER GOLD! on: March 28, 2007, 12:19:16 AM
I may install the patch anyway since I wouldn't mind starting from the beginning again.

However, I want to try recording my play through as an AAR, a kind of journal of the zone.  Spiffy it up to look like a journal and disaster photographer.
7979  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C 3 Impressions on: March 28, 2007, 12:04:39 AM
My most important question:  Is there any sort of speed control for single and multiplayer modes?
7980  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jump Ultimate Stars for the DS! on: March 27, 2007, 10:14:20 AM
You're probably jumping in on whatever latest gaming fad is going on in Japan.  Tongue

It's getting so hard to resist buying a DS, this game, and some other ones I've been eyeing.

Plus I work at a graphic's shop, so I can customize my DS.
7981  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jeff Green's blog mentions Company of Heroes 2 on: March 27, 2007, 10:09:51 AM
And now some other news sites are reporting that Games for Windows is indeed showing Company of Heroes 2 in the next issue.

I'm intrigued, perhaps this is just a really early first look?

Anyway, if it is a full sequel, they really need to add in some more armies from the beginning.
7982  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jump Ultimate Stars for the DS! on: March 27, 2007, 04:23:57 AM
This is one of the few games I'm really interested in playing for the DS.

Someone needs to do something like this with American/European comics and webcomics.

A Tycho and Gabe team vs. PvP.
7983  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: STALKER GOLD! on: March 27, 2007, 02:39:37 AM
Heheh, my computer is an odd beast.  I'm running on an Athlon XP 2000+, ATI 9800 Pro 256MB, and 1 GB of memory.  I don't even get the option of trying dynamic lighting.
7984  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Battlestar Galactica - Season 3 finale on: March 26, 2007, 11:15:54 AM
Yeah, honestly man.  Why are you assuming that they're normal cylon agents when obviously they've been setting up the final 5 as something else entirely?

repost from OO:
I really liked this episode both because it got the show back on track, but because what it setup.

I actually think Galactica will end next year. I actually hope it ends with season 4. If so, it'll be one of the few scifi series that has a well planned and thought out ending. They can plan that ending through an entire season worth of episodes and then make that ending so well executed that it leaves a mark on the scifi community.

Think about it this way, how many other long running scifi series were left to dwindle into obscurity, maybe getting some decent ending miniseries or movie, but that ending still being somewhat rushed. I'm actually hoping that in the future, we'll see TV series that have well defined beginning middles and ends. The show 24 is a pretty good example of how the serial format can work like that, albiet it's only over one season, but the writers have it planned out and can keep the pace going.

And, of course, we know that these "extra episodes" and or season 4 will start with an absolutely huge space battle.

And yeah, I has suspicions that Starbuck would be back on board and that the big news of her leaving and her auditioning for new shows and such to be red herrings. It wasn't until the first radar blip on Lee's dredis that I knew she'd be back. I'm actually glad to have her back, now that the angst is out of her character I actually hope her character becomes a driving force in the show, whereas previously her character was just wasted.

I'm also damn sure that the four aren't cylons as we know them, and as mentioned it has somethng to do with Earth, and the reason why they left Kobol, and why the 13th tribe split away. So, it's best not to try and rationalize them. Of course, they were here before the first 7 were created.

My thought? The people of Kobol created machines, just like cylons. Stuff happens, 13th colony leaves made up of humans and machines co-operating meanwhile the humans and machines on Kobol are at war. They start a plan to try to get the rest of humanity working together again, problems happen and the first Cylon war starts, they prepare Galactica as a backup. And the rest is history.

Oh, and let me mention that I like that Tori will be getting more screen time next season, for some reason I think she's really attractive, not that I don't think the other BSG women aren't, though. Wink

One thing I want that I don't think they'll got to is to give each cylon model an episode or at least a good chunk of one to flesh out his character and see some more human elements in them. Maybe one of the doctor models has some regrets, maybe that first Brother Cabil on BSG, the one that when first confronted actually said that he disagreed with the attacks gets an episode to show how he copes with being a lone dissenter amongst all of his model.

Some more things I loved.  The great characterization that occured during the episode.  I like how these character do change, even if it seems they flip flop.  They're human, they feel emotions, weigh decisions, etc...

Especially so the reactions when they revealed the four Cylons.  I loved Tigh's speech regarding the man he wants to be.
7985  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: STALKER GOLD! on: March 26, 2007, 12:24:56 AM
Im running this at 800x600 resolution on medium quality on an ATI 9800 Pro.  It's not pretty, but the game is very fun to me and still oozes atmosphere.  Dynamic lighting is either not optimized at all, or is meant for cutting edge cards beyond the 8800.  And actually what Calvin really said was with dynamic lighting on, his computer averages only 15fps.

On combat.

Ditch the start pistol ASAP and never use it unless it's you're only option.  Later you'll find silenced pistols, and some even better pistols.  And of course, better guns.

Headshots, even with the starter pistol, are almost always instant kills.  If you use automatic weapons the kick of the gun can sometimes give you a headshot if you aim high on the enemy's chest.

Don't bother with iron sights unless you really need to line up a headshot, just shoot the enemy a bunch of times until he goes through a stunned animation, then shoot him in the head or a few more times while he's exposed to kill him.  The iron sight also obscures your view from seeing where the bullets are really going, so only use it when appropriate.  On the other hand, it does zoom in when you use it, which can be helpful to some who have trouble with how small enemies appear on screen.

That brings me to, yes, weapons are strangely inaccurate at first.  But I'm at a point where my military rifle is pretty accurate.  Find a rifle ASAP, if you can't find that, get the SMG.  Early on in the game you can wait around the military patrol until they get attacked by wild dogs and seperated.  Then while one troop is busy attacking dogs, pop him in the head and steal his weapon.

Pressing F with nothing in sight will automatically highlight any items on the ground nearby that can be picked up.

If you have trouble getting health early on, eat food.  Food will restore your health just like bandages and medkits, albiet you have to go into your inventory to do so.  It won't stop bleeding though.

Use cover, mainly high walls and lean around them to shoot.  However, unless there's only one way the enemy can get to you, stay moving as well to keep them from flanking.  And always expect to be flanked.  The enemy is quite good at moving around in this game, especially the more experienced enemies like military troops.

Ammunition is decently plentiful, so don't be afraid to shoot.  Any enemy killed will likely give you a new weapon and ammo.

When you find a sawed off double barreled shotgun, try to keep it in your inventory for a while.  It's good for close in engagements with a smaller number of enemies, and the slug ammo type is nasty.  Basically, while using the shot ammo, use your first shot on the enemy to stun him it it doesn't kill.  Then use the second barrel to kill him.  The slug ammo, on the other hand, turns your shotgun into a freaking 50 cal sniper rifle.  The slug ammo is crazy accurate and powerful.  You can pick off guys and watch them go flying at a distance.  The big amount of damage the double barrel provides early on can be very helpful, but once you start finding the rifles it might not be as useful as simply firing a rifle at full auto.  However, unlike other games with shotguns, the double barrel is still pretty effective at ranges farther than "in your face" experiment with it.

In the first mission fight, go ahead and let your buddies go in first, and you back them up.  If an enemy or a friendly dies, pick up his gun and ammo and use it to fight.  I went in alone only because I did as above and got a military rifle early.

As for long distance fighting, well that's trickier.  The long range combat really isn't as fun, and yet some AI enemies are way too accurate at ranged, all the while your shots seem to do nothing.  Switch to single fire on your weapon (using the 9 or 0 key) and take single shots at the head.  On the other hand, you can fire short bursts at distant enemies aiming for their chest and letting the recoil bring your aim up to the head.

There are actually two crouches, I think this was said already.  Press shift+CTRL to really get low to the ground.  This can help you avoid getting hit at longer ranged fights.

On stealth, there are two meters near your stance indicator in the lower right of the screen.  The left side meter has a purple bar that rises up and down, as you make noise.  it's you're noise meter and depends on how you move.  The meter on the right is deceptive, it has a lightbulb, but it isn't a light meter.  It rises up and down depending on how well you've been spotted by the enemy.  If you see the meter rise up, that means an enemy has taken notice of you, but is curious and hasn't gone into full offensive mode yet.  If it spikes to the top you've been revealed and you should expect a firefight.

That's what I can think of so far.  I you have any questiosn let me know, I've been playing quite a bit and understand how the game works for the most part.

Oh and:
Spoilers upon entering the Garbage zone
Spoiler for Hiden:
Just get through this zone as quickly as possible, there's just too many bandits and they just keep respawning.  I'm serious, you can't thow a brick with hitting bandit and his 5 buddies in this zone.  Do your story mission here and move on.

That first defense mission is nice to do if you need the money, but money is plentiful.  Instead, it's better for you to let that Bes guy die, and take his silenced AKSU.  Unfortunately, there's a lot of stashes here, but I don't think there's anything in those stashes that you can't get elsewhere.

Don't worry however, despite the banditmania that is Garbage, the game WILL pickup its creepy atmosphere shortly afterwards, and trust me, it gets a lot creepier and desolate.
7986  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PSP] Newbie Questions on: March 25, 2007, 11:48:22 PM
It hasn't been officially announced yet, so I suspect it's a while off.  Sony will want to do a major push to get the original PSPs off the shelves before making a new one.

The PSP2 has been confirmed in development by various magazines and news sites, so we know it's out there.  If the console stays at $200 USD I may still buy it if they fix the problems I had with the PSP1.  Namely, of course, the lack of games, load times, lack of dual analog sticks, and the crappy nub that they call an analog stick.
7987  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jeff Green's blog mentions Company of Heroes 2 on: March 25, 2007, 12:54:08 AM
What'd be even more interesting is if resource and base building was taken out of the actual battle, and what you brought into the fight is what you got.

It's similar to the Axis and Allies PC game did, but they failed on so many levels.
7988  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [PSP] Newbie Questions on: March 24, 2007, 07:15:50 PM
Yeah, I've been wanting to get a PSP too, but I may just wait for the PSP2, and any future games that come out.  I don't use homebrew, I'll get a GP32x for that, so version is not an issue.

I toyed with the idea of getting  DS to hold me over, but actually I find most of the DS style games not my style.  Not that they don't seem fun, but I get bored of such games quickly.

Meanwhile, despite the drought of PSP games for the first year or so, quite a few games I'd want to play have come out including Socom and Metal Gear (Acid and Portable Ops).  And there's that recent announcement of some interesting sounding RPGs.

Also my friend who moved away recently has a PSP and plays it online.
7989  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: STALKER GOLD! on: March 24, 2007, 12:02:16 PM
Now that spring break is here I installed my copy on my aging computer and got it running decently at 800x600 resolution and low detail settings.

It's not pretty, but the gameplay is there.

I really really like this game.  For all the reasons already mentioned.

If course, it has problems stemming from its complete overhaul into a more mission based game rather than freeform game it started out as.  Money is too easy gotten, and generally useless since you always find things that are better than what you can buy.  A lot of the smaller items, medkits, bandages, and food are easily obtained.  Those aspects are not a problem, but neither are they an interesting aspect of gameplay.  Would have been interesting if eating certain foods gave certain effects for the "full" time between meals.  But at this point they could have removed the food aspect and no one would have noticed.  Of course, this is still the early area where basic food is in good supply.

Also seems like they were very much limited by technology.

Anyway, I haven't even left the starting Cordon area yet, and I've put in well over 6 hours of enjoyable exploring and soaking up the atmosphere.

If they ever get to do a sequel, I hope they get the money, technology, and manpower to realize their original goal of a more freeform FPS.
7990  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: C&C 3 Impressions on: March 24, 2007, 10:54:27 AM
Well when someone gets this please let us know if there's a speed slider/setting for singleplayer, multiplayer, and skirmish.
7991  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Supreme Commander Strategy & Tactics on: March 24, 2007, 06:09:50 AM
If you make one factory assist another (usually of the same time) the assisting factory will work on the first factory's build queu.  This frees you from having to manage the build queus for multiple factories, making sure you're always building something.
7992  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jeff Green's blog mentions Company of Heroes 2 on: March 24, 2007, 06:04:37 AM
I still think it's a standalone CoH game, but on the east front.

I'm actually hoping that Relic goes and makes a game with no base or unit building in the middle of battle.

There's still resourcing outside of battle, somewhat like DoW's territories, or the Total War series.  I actually think the homeworld series would have been a lot better if they hadn't made you both deal with the space combat and building at the same time.

That's one area they haven't explored yet.
7993  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 wii-like control stick? on: March 24, 2007, 12:20:10 AM
Hoo yeah, despite the snide comment above, the sixaxis is a pretty blatant copy of the Wii's default controller innovation.

Albiet, the wiimote with nunchuck has two sets of tilt sensors and accelerometers.
7994  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: GRAW2 co-op Achievements tonight on: March 23, 2007, 11:38:37 PM
What time do you guys want to play?  I may go rent this again to join in.
7995  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: *Warning* Positive PS3 Article Inside - Enter At Your Own Risk on: March 23, 2007, 11:36:31 PM
All the article is saying is that the PS3 is still doing well after launch, and that's despite a major competitor beating them to market by a year.

Things should be interesting in a year once we start seeing any Sony first party games.
7996  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jeff Green's blog mentions Company of Heroes 2 on: March 23, 2007, 11:32:20 PM
It could be a standalone expansion that covers the eastern front.

If it is a new game, that could be a signal that relic is done with the DoW style game and wants to quickly move things up a notch new graphics, more tactical options, new base gameplay beyond the normal capture points, etc...

It'll be interesting how they plan to improve things if it is an entirely new game.

Of course, it could be some sort of offshoot of CoH but say in a pulp scifi world where you fight Nazi mad scientists.  Tongue
7997  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: PS3 wii-like control stick? on: March 23, 2007, 10:26:20 PM
Actually, the PS3 controller does have accerometers.  The "six axises" are 3 tilt sensors, and 3 accelerometers, the only thing it doesn't have is the pointer system.

 Roll Eyes

I don't have enough rolly eyes for this whole forum.

Yeah, but at the same time they pioneered the dual analog stick setup for the playstation 1, half-way through its lifespan.  So adding new features isn't a bad idea.  Especially looking at MS and how it's updating its console.

If you're going to pop in to a thread to make snide comments, at least include a paragraph about the actual topic.
7998  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: STALKER GOLD! on: March 23, 2007, 10:14:05 PM

Quote from: ROTC1983 on March 23, 2007, 07:57:41 PM

Sooo...I was walking along to a bridge I had to cross.  Sadly the bridge was collapsed and I had to find an alternative method to get around to the other side.  The first attempt I made was through an anomaly.  Sadly, my brain couldn't comprehend the patterns, so I died to nice little explosions of electricity.  My second option was to pay some military "caretakers" (read:  extortionists) a small fee to cross the bridge.  Well, instead of paying, I shot the guy in the face with a shotgun and his friends came and showed me a good time.  Yeah, I had to reload.  In my third attempt, there was already a fire fight between the military and some bandits, so I just ran through without paying the fee.  Luckily no one saw me or was to occupied, so I made it.  A little while later I had to go through the area again and the military remembered who I was.  I slung my weapon and was getting ready to walk through, and they presented me with some bullets as a gift.  Looks like they remembered that I didn't pay the fine.  I had to reload again...

No doubt it was more an AI friend or foe glitch, but man, what you just described was just plain cool.  Just a really simple gameplay problem with multiple ways around.
7999  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / PS3 wii-like control stick? on: March 23, 2007, 09:32:27 AM
I'm just wondering something with the PS3.  Since the PS3 controller has almost everything that the Wiimote has (except the pointer system), it wouldn't be too difficult for Sony to engineer some sort of stick like control device for the PS3, or an attachment of some sort, that allows for games like Golf and such to be played.  The same goes for a lot of the quirky Wii type games that don't use the pointer.

Imagine Tiger woods golf with ps3 graphics and the wii-like controls.  Could be interesting.
8000  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Jump Ultimate Stars for the DS! on: March 23, 2007, 09:29:03 AM
Can this be played with others using only one cartridge?
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