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1441  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: November 19, 2004, 10:49:55 PM
1442  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: November 19, 2004, 10:48:00 PM

1443  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: November 19, 2004, 10:43:46 PM

1444  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / For those EQ1 Vets Playing WoW on: November 18, 2004, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: "-Lord Ebonstone-"
Quote from: "Ender"

Wow in one word is: FUN.

You in one word are: WRONG.


Nope. Sorry he is 100% correct. WoW is fun. It is more fun than any MMOL game out there on the market today. Nothing else even comes close.

That's one big thing I didn't like about WoW: there were a 'core set' of 10-20 abilities for a class, all the other ones were just upgrades on those.

I counted them last night, my 52nd level warrior has 29 "warrior" abilites that are distinct, a some of those are not available across all 3 stances. If I redone my talent points I could gain some abilities while losing others.

I have not played any other class up to high level so do not know how many they have, but I can hardly see how one can complain about lack of abilites for a pure melee class when it has 30+ abilities at high level.
1445  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Does WoW have combat lock like EQ II? on: November 18, 2004, 02:06:09 AM
From what i understand if a high level does a significant amount of damage to the creature after you have damaged, or "tapped" it, your exps are reduced and its possible you will get none.
1446  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / real simple: How do I play Half-life 2 w/o steam??? on: November 17, 2004, 01:43:05 PM
Quote from: "Jeff Jones"

Nope, HL2 (and steam) has been cracked, and is out now, on warez channels.

Good. Maybe it will nip this POS distribution method in the bud then so other developers do not jump on the band wagon.
1447  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Neat on: November 16, 2004, 12:36:24 AM
1448  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: [WoW] Potential beta character wipe....or not? on: November 14, 2004, 07:08:50 AM
Quote from: "Destructor"

It's not gonna happen. At best, you'll be able to transfer your beta characters (or one of them, anyway) to their official Test server. To a retail server, it's not gonna happen. It will SO break the economy, among many, many, many other things, it's not even funny.

Actually, if you think about it, it would not "break the ecomony".

What it would do primarily is force new players to gain their items through questing, crafting, and/or the generosity their guild/friends. Is that such a bad thing? All 3 of those things seem more rewarding than buying something off an auction house.

Thanks to the soloability of WoW, you do not truely need to be decked out in top-of-the-line stuff to progress nicely. My character is still, at level 51, primarily in armor/weapons he has acquired through quests and random drops. How do inflated prices at the auction house affect me? Answer: They don't.

I think Blizzard (and other MMOl developers) place too much emphasis on their virtual ecomonies that are destined to be out of whack no matter what they do to balance them. Blizzard was on the right track with quest, soul bound, bind-on-pick-up items i think. But they fell back into that same ol' line of thinking all the other MMOL game devs have and feel they must try to balance the ecomony. Give it a rest already. It never works and it never will due to the dynamics a virtual ecomony.
1449  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / The new beta testers' WoW impressions thread! on: November 12, 2004, 08:41:05 PM
Nice impressions Gryndyl.

I agree that Ironforge is awesome. To me it is by far the best representation of what I consider a dwarven city that has ever been in a computer game.

I kind of wish there was not a tram from Stormwind to Ironforge so the dwarves would be more isolated. But you can't have everything i guess.

Seems only hunters and rogues wear leather (is that correct?).
. Druids also wear leather. Also, at 40th level, hunters can wear mail armor (not to be confused with plate, which is what warriors and paladins can wear at 40th).

I think that the cooks and the alchemists are the ones that are going to be making the most money.

Cooking, along with Fishing and First Aid, are not considered "professions". You can master all 3 of those if you choose in addition to 2 professions.

Two gathering professions seem to be the best money-makers in the long run. Mining, Herbalism, and Skinning being the 3 gathering professions. Most of the other professions require refined materials gathered from mining and herbalism (alchemy needs herbs, blacksmithing, engineering need mining). Skinninng and Tailor go together nicely as well.  

The Dwarf ability to spot treasure on the minimap is very cool

I like it as well but since you can only have one "find" skill up at once, i think its usefullness is rather limited. Miners and Herbilist always want to have their Find Minerals/Herbs ability up. Hunters usually want to have one of the tracking skills up.
1450  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / gg Blizz: How I learned to stop caring and love the Alliance on: November 11, 2004, 06:08:07 PM
Quote from: "Falator"
Why ne hunter? dwarf hunters sound much better (although i have only read info about them on the forums so who knows). I have also seen TONS of dwarven hunters when playing my level 10 warlock and they do seem pretty good.

Also, guns look better than bows imo Tongue

Also, one of the dwarves racial traits is gun specialization. Gives a small bonus to their gun skill.
1451  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / No Movie for you! on: November 11, 2004, 04:50:20 PM
From the above article...

Cole cited recent FCC actions and last week's re-election of President Bush as reasons for replacing "Saving Private Ryan" on Thursday with a music program and the TV movie "Return to Mayberry."

ROFL! Priceless.
1452  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / The new beta testers' WoW impressions thread! on: November 11, 2004, 03:22:51 PM
Quote from: "Koz"

I was in the same spot last night and there were about 10 people camped around waiting to kill the guy. He spawned maybe three or four times before someone came up with the bright idea for everyone to group so we all would get credit for the kill. Kinda funny.

I would've tried to start a group, but I had no idea how and didn't want to look like a total idiot  smile

Two ways i do it.

If the person you want to group with is in sight, target them. Right click on their portrait (top of the screen next to your portrat/health/mana bar). That brings up options you can click on. One is Invite.

Second way i use when I want to invite someone that is not in sight. Hit enter and type /invite koz.
1453  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / The new beta testers' WoW impressions thread! on: November 11, 2004, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: "jessie"
well what's cool about the game is that any monster has a chance to drop something awesome (for your level)  gone are the days of camping only named mobs.

Whats funny is you see folks that do not realize this who are camping named mobs. In the newbie dwarf/gnome area there is a cave with some trolls. Your final mission before you leave the area is to kill the boss troll. You have idiots that just sit there at the spawn killing it when it pops because they think they are going to get a magic item off of it. By the time they do actually get a magic item off the creature I will be 5 levels ahead of them with items better than they got.

I also see higher level noobie folks "grinding" early on and it makes me chuckle. They do not realize that quests are abundant and are much better exps that grinding.

It goes to show that old MMOL habits die hard.
1454  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / The new beta testers' WoW impressions thread! on: November 10, 2004, 07:01:51 PM
You will have collection quests at ever level i am pretty sure (I am at level 51 and still running across a healthly amount).

But, as you hinted at, Blizzard does a decent job in candy-coating these so you at least feel like you have a purpose for killing. Some chain into other quests that chain into other quests all with a purpose which is often killing the "boss" of that creature type in the area. It seems fairly reasonable to me in a roleplaying sense. But I am pretty easy to please in the department. Anything that keeps me from "grinding" exps for no purpose other than to get to the next level I welcom with open arms.
1455  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / The new beta testers' WoW impressions thread! on: November 10, 2004, 06:51:58 PM
Quote from: "Vesper"
Is there some sort of local area map I don't know about?  The one in the corner is far too small to be useful.  The only other map I found was the World Map, which is way zoomed out.  I REALLY wanted a "local area" map so I could figure out where the heck I was going.

Usually when you turn on your world map it takes you to the region, or zone, map. Not sure why yours would be defaulting to "world" world map or if we are talking about two different things.

You can click on the various "zones" on the world map to zoom in. Where you are is represented by a dot, so clicking it should bring you to the region map. This map has the names of most towns and various other locations name don them and shows roads and things of that nature (edit: forgot to add that until you explore the area you will not see any features of the zone, like a fog of war effect. also, usually staying strictly on the roads of a zone will not remove the fog)
1456  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / gg Blizz: How I learned to stop caring and love the Alliance on: November 09, 2004, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: "-Lord Ebonstone-"

Case in point:  Melee classes all have a skill that closes the distance between them and their target--Warriors have that charge thing, Rogues get Dash, etc.  And in World of Warcraft's PvP, if a melee is in range of a caster, the caster is dead (or about to be).  Thus the nature of playing a caster in PvP is to have range.

The problem is, casters can't kill other players over a range.  Warlocks' direct damage takes FOUR SECONDS to cast at level 22 and does under 100 damage.  That means you have to target the enemy, click the DD, wait four seconds, and deal 90 damage.  Meanwhile, the melee gets the following clues to find you if he hasn't spotted you already:  a light show, sound, and an irregular stance.  Any of those clues, they have just under four seconds to stop you--and chances are, if they're in range of your DD, you're in range of their insta-close skill.  

They use their insta-close skill (which has no charge time) and you're only done with 2 or 3 seconds of casting.  

Smack, 100 damage (woohoo cloth armor).  Chanelling goes back a second.  

Smack, 89 damage.  Chanelling goes back half a second.  

Smack, 85 damage.  Your DD finally casts.  It either hits for 90, barely denting their HP, or they resist it.

Smack, 80 damage.  You have a sliver of life, they're hardly dented.  What now?  Utility spell?  Life drain?

Smack, 97 damage.  AARRRGGGGHH.  You will automatically release in 6 minutes.  [RELEASE NOW?]  The melee's HP is full by the time your death animation is over.

I am not saying that casters are right now underpowered in terms of PvP vs. melee, but you are not really giving an accurate account of how things work.

In regards to warriors, their "insta-close" spell is called Charge. It is not available when the warrior is attacked. If anyone else (or a mob, like say maybe a warlock pet?) is attacking the warrior, they can not use it. I assume that the warlock has some type of insta-cast spell (does not need to be a damage spell). Since both the warrior and the caster have insta-cast abilities, it really becomes a matter of who gets the jump on who. If the caster reacts first, the warrior can not use charge. If the warrior reacts first, the warrior can use charge.
1457  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Bad Mofo Wallets - just got mine. on: November 09, 2004, 01:34:36 PM
Quote from: "Blackadar"
That one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.  smile

I can imagine me pulling that out after a business luncheon.  I don't think it's going to impress the clients...

Unless they liked Pulp Fiction. smile And who does not love that gem of a movie!? Well ok, maybe some old fuddy-duddy that goes to church 7 times a week, but who wants to do business with him? slywink

Besides, since its only on one side (when the wallet is open) it would not be hard to prevent others from seeing it. Actually, I thought it was a bit rude to "display" your wallet anyway (kinda of like saying "oooh, look at all the money I have. haha i rock.").
1458  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / WoW - FREE Open Beta date announced on: November 08, 2004, 06:20:18 PM
Quote from: "olaf"
A mount isnt just a mount!  There are a bunch of different kinds and some of them are a hell of a lot cooler looking than others.

I got a wolf mount for my human female warrior.  Its cool.

Guess I am a jaded gamer then because the "coolness" of having a mount wore off in about 1 day for me. Don't get me wrong, I love the extra speed and all that jazz, but I could care less if its a ram, horse, kodo, or mechanical chicken at this point.
1459  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Last-minute pre-order... EQ2 or WoW? on: November 08, 2004, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: "Destructor"
Quote from: "Toe"
Check out the changes to female platemail armor that come down in this last patch. Looks cool eh?

Seriously though, wtf were they thinking?

*jaw drops*

And that's supposed to protect you, how?

Personally though, I love the expression on the Dwarf's face that's right behind her... biggrin

Hehe, here is what is was looking at...
1460  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Last-minute pre-order... EQ2 or WoW? on: November 08, 2004, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: "jpinard"

* Detail.  Want to have the new cool items I get, look great too and be worth the time and effort.

Check out the changes to female platemail armor that come down in this last patch. Looks cool eh?

Seriously though, wtf were they thinking?
1461  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / WoW Racial Traits Revealed!!! on: November 05, 2004, 07:04:41 PM
Bah, dwarves got shafted imho.
1462  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: WoW - FREE Open Beta date announced on: November 05, 2004, 12:51:43 PM
Quote from: "Torfish"
Just got the Blizzard newsletter.  Open beta to start Nov. 8th.  

I must try the Taurens.  They just got a new mount.

Unless you have lots and lots of time to devote to playing (i.e. do not work or go to school) then you probably will not be able to get to 40th level and get the 100 gold required in two weeks (when the game goes retail).

Plus, a mount is a mount the way i see it. I mean once the initial coolness factor wears off (a day maybe?) then its just a means of getting from point A to point B faster than walking.
1463  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / [WoW] Undead rogues, need help finding a dagger on: November 04, 2004, 12:42:54 PM
At level 7 you can get a quest in Mulgore at the Bloodhoof villiage for a decent dagger (6-13 damage, 6.3 DPS) that should last you a few levels.

But I do not know the difficulty of getting there from the undead city at level 7. It might not be a viable journey at that level.
1464  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: WoW- question about servers on: November 04, 2004, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: "Sam Hell"
The servers are split up into either a  PvP or PvE, right?

Does that mean what it looks like? A PvP server is PvP everywhere, all the time? And PvE is PvP only in the Battlegrounds?

I fairly certain that's the case but wanted to make sure.

Servers are split up into PvP and "regular" (i guess is the best way to put it).

Both types are Horde vs. Alliance servers.

On "regular" servers, you can PvP to some extent if you chose (and a lot of players seem to do this from what I can tell).

I am not an expert on the matter but it appears to work like this. When you attack a faction NPC (mostly NPC town guards) of the other side you get flagged PvP for a period of time. When flagged, the opposite faction can attack you (and in doing so become flagged themselves if they are not already). On a side note, if you cast a benificial spells on your own faction's NPCs, it will turn on your PvP flag.

There are some zones set up that have small (relatively weak in terms of NPC guards) towns of both faction in them. So what happens is a group or several groups of one side will go attack the town of the other side. This will draw out the other side's players that want to PvP and then you get a back-and-forth battle going between the towns.

Also, there are some quests that actually flag you as PvP (they basically force you to slay faction NPCs which turns on your flag). So this also encourages PvP action because you have folks on your side trying to complete the quest(s) while the opposing side has PvPers in the area that know about the quest and seek slay them.  I have only seen a few of these types of quests though so I would consider them rather rare at this point.

The PvP servers work similarly except that many of the zones are designated as "contested". What this means is that you are flagged for PvP when you enter the zone. So you can be killed then and there. For "owned" zones, meaning zones that are designated as controlled by your faction, your PvP flag is off but any enemy in the zone is its flagged on. So you have the option to attack them (and then can be attacked) or ignoring them (and thus making it so they can not harm you).

Edit: I think Blizzard is making a mistake in using old naming conventions for the different server types as it seems to be causing a lot of confusion. i.e. lots of new players do not realize that "regular" servers have PvP also just not the the extent of the "PvP" servers.
1465  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Ban on Gay Marriage a winner in 11 states. on: November 03, 2004, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: "scubabbl"
Ah yes, we now have 11 states which voted for constitiutional ammendments to ban gay marriage.

I for one welcome our new religious overlords. Please, lets mix more state and religion. Thats exactly the direction our country needs to go. No wonder Iran supported Bush. Although we are a different religion, any religious state must be good right?

Discuss. Be nice.  Opinions? Suggested alternatives?

I miss the Religion and Politics forum of GoneGold very very very much. frown
1466  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Kerry concedes on: November 03, 2004, 04:58:13 PM
Woot! No Frankenstien!

I do not think I could handle 4 years of seeing that freaky-looking guy running the country.
1467  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Why everyone should vote: on: November 02, 2004, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: "rshetts"
 I also agree with many, that if you choose to abstain from voting then STFU when it comes to politics. If you have chosen apathy, then live with it.

Why? I am paying the salaries of all these elected politicians you know. To me, that carries more weight on the "right" to bitch and moan about them than voting for or against them does.
1468  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Why everyone should vote: on: November 02, 2004, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: "Rage"

Vote, or lose any credibility you have with me to complain about the administration/local governments.

If you cannot be bothered to make use of the one institution that allows you to influence the direction of the country, then you have no right to complain (at least to me, or in my presence) of the result.

As long as they take money out of my paycheck every week I have every right in the world to complain. Whether I vote or not, I am still paying for this government.
1469  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Why everyone should vote: on: November 01, 2004, 06:31:40 PM
I choose not to vote!
1470  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / The Road To The Grudge Is Paved In Suck on: November 01, 2004, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: "coopasonic"
Quote from: "Ascendent"
Freaking Robot spies report to your squid overlords that we are on to you. Hehe just kidding but the Ring scared the hell out of me still does. Can't watch it all the way through I just get freaked out. I'm thinking the Grudge will freak me out equally. Guess I'm a chicken shit *shrugs*


The Grudge has maybe one jump out of your seat moment and it comes precisely when expected so it shouldn't make you jump Tongue , from there on out you are more likely to laugh at the weakness of the scares.

My wife is rather suseptable to jump-out-of-your-seat scares and got a good 6-7 out of the movie. Most she saw coming but still scared her pretty good. She said she thought it was scarier that The Ring.

All in all, it was a decent scary movie i thought.
1471  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / post your WoW main/alt plans! on: October 30, 2004, 05:18:28 PM

Dwarven Priest


Dwarven Warrior
Dwarven Hunter
Dwarven Rogue
Dwarven Paladin
Gnome Mage (damn you Blizzard for removing Dwarven Mages  :x )
1472  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Its Coming..... on: October 29, 2004, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: "EngineNo9"
DPS?  Double Penetration Syndrome?

Dumb Post Suck?
1473  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Wanted: Spooky Music on: October 29, 2004, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: "happydog"
How can something that makes me laugh be spooky?  :shock:

I was thinking more along "creepy" lines.

For a hoot, play it loudly with your dog around (if ya got one).
1474  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Ashlee Simpson on SNL - what a moron! on: October 29, 2004, 05:34:08 PM
1475  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Wanted: Spooky Music on: October 29, 2004, 05:26:15 PM
1476  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Workplace Harrasment/Bullying - Advice needed... on: October 29, 2004, 11:40:29 AM
Your team leader, being a part of the management infastructure, should have already reported your complaint to HR. That is one of management's job functions. Failure for them to do so can spell disaster on down the road should legal actions be taken against the company.

Since he is moving on in two weeks I would probably be of the mindset to put up with it until he is gone. Although, if you really want to help get this person booted out of the company, then you need to file a complaint with HR if your managers are not doing their job. Previous complaints/history filed with HR carry a lot of weight (at least where i work). If he is that big of a butt, you can bet someone else is going to be the focus of it wherever he might move to.
1477  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: October 29, 2004, 02:09:05 AM
1478  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Catalyst 4.10 impressions on: October 28, 2004, 12:14:47 PM
Quote from: "Charlatan"
Question for you "driver guys" - I just received and set up a new PC from one of those great Dell sales. It came with an ATI X800 SE card. I look at the driver and it says it's version (and some digging reveals another number for "display driver version" -")  how does this jibe with "Catalyst 4.10" - or is the current driver I'm using not a Catalyst (and if not, what the heck is it?).

Or should I just install the new drivers and not worry about it?

That is the specific driver for that particular video adapter. Cataylst drivers are "generic" in the sense that they work with any card that uses ATI chipset. Since the Cat drivers are regularly updated and tweaked (unlike drivers for a specific video card), you almost always are going to get better performance.
1479  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / More SOE BS on: October 27, 2004, 12:37:04 PM
I definatly play too much to be restricted to just 4 characters. It does sound like its going to end up being a money-making scheme.

But then again, I do not have access to all the data from EQ to compare against. Maybe they see that 80% of the people playing EQ only have 3-4 character above level 20 so it makes sense to put the limit at that as to reduce the character database size. Or they could be seeing that the 20% that have many higher level alts are "hardcore" players which will readily pay the $10 (example) extra a month for more slots.

I know that in WoW, I am looking forward to filling up all 8 slots on my primary server and a few on another server.
1480  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Quests in WoW / EQ2 on: October 22, 2004, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: "Falcon554"
I knida like the "lets go hunt for exp" sometimes.

Wow, i guess that goes to show the huge player differences in MMOL mentailties. I never ever want to "hunt for exps" in any game. Coming from a strong PnP background, the whole concept seems foreign to me. Its like having DM session where the DM just tosses monsters at you just for the purpose of everyone gaining exps. That would be so fun! (not).

After "seeing the light" in WoW, I doubt that I ever will hang around a game that does make "hunting for exps" a requirement or major avenue of character development. Give me some goals, any goals, so as I never have to "hunt for exps" and I am satisfied.
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