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5561  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Age: Where to buy? on: November 04, 2009, 08:23:09 AM

Quote from: Fez on November 04, 2009, 06:19:00 AM

Yeah it's downloading the whole thing.  After the verification process it gives me the error.  I am now trying to disable AVG as I let it run overnight.  After reading through tons of posts on Stardock I stumbled across a post by a Stardock CS person saying AVG and Impulse don't run too well together.  I hope this solves it, but what a headache.  Plus, based on the forums I've been looking at, a whole HOST of problems still potentially face me after I get the stupid file downloaded.  Most people are having problems AFTER they download the file! :-/

If disabling AVG doesn't fix the problem, you might have a faulty harddrive or RAM. Normal Internet traffic is designed in such a way as to guarantee that you receive the correct data in the correct order, so if something goes wrong it's probably happening after the files have arrived on your computer.
5562  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Age Countdown on: November 03, 2009, 08:45:43 AM
No seriously, it sounded like you just wanted someone to say "yes, that is less" as if that is more important than anything less. Of course the 360-version features less than the PC version. Nobody can argue otherwise, which makes your question rather strange, to put it mildly.
5563  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Age Countdown on: November 03, 2009, 07:23:52 AM

Quote from: Razgon on November 03, 2009, 07:18:06 AM

that is less, right?

Are you arguing semantics or gameplay?
5564  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Age is looking good! on: November 02, 2009, 12:40:03 PM
Welcome to yesterday's topic in this thread. slywink
5565  Gaming / Analog Gaming / Re: The appeal of multiplayer on: November 02, 2009, 10:37:29 AM

Quote from: Razgon on November 02, 2009, 10:31:14 AM

because once you figure out the underlying mechanics, you'll be able to wine every time.

That doesn't match my experiences. Getting to a point where you can win every time in a singleplayer game is nearly impossible for most people. Can you win every time on the highest difficulty level in Civ4? I can't, despite knowing the underlying mechanics. Neither can I win every fight in Uncharted 2 on my first try, despite having won it on Crushing.

AI isn't static, you know. Playing a game of Galactic Civilizations 2 can be just as dynamic as a game against a human opponent due to the fantastic AI, and you never know what's going to happen or how things are going to end.

You seem to be trying to say that the only real challenge in games is in multiplayer. I call that faulty logic.
5566  Gaming / Analog Gaming / Re: The appeal of multiplayer on: November 02, 2009, 10:28:15 AM

Quote from: Razgon on November 02, 2009, 10:23:08 AM

If those percentages matter to you, then you have your answer :-)

Of course they do. I try to be among the best in any given match, but they don't encourage me to play the same level again against another random bunch of strangers just to see if I can best it. I've got better things to do than repeat 10 minutes of gameplay over and over.
5567  Gaming / Analog Gaming / Re: The appeal of multiplayer on: November 02, 2009, 10:20:32 AM

Quote from: Turtle on November 02, 2009, 10:09:03 AM

CoD4, Quake, and even Uncharted 2 aren't the best experience for those coming from mainly single player.  CoD4 is too twitch paced for the kind of thought process that someone who likes single player.  Uncharted 2's multiplayer, is both fast and slow paced, but suffers from the Gears of War syndrome where there's a learning curve that's hard to get over when experienced players keep kicking you back down the curve as you crawl your way up.  There are multiplayer games out there that are slower paced, things like the Splinter Cell multiplayer.  TF2 is a bit fast paced but it's also well balanced.

Challenge isn't the issue. I get challenge from my SP games, such as Uncharted 2 which I finished on Crushing. When I play multiplayer Uncharted 2, I usually end up among the 50% best players in the match, and sometimes even better.
5568  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What are you buying this week? (11/01) on: November 02, 2009, 07:55:39 AM
I could say Dragon Age, but technically I bought it last week.
5569  Gaming / Analog Gaming / The appeal of multiplayer on: November 02, 2009, 07:53:59 AM
So, I've been giving multiplayer another chance with Uncharted 2 (having tried many other such games previously, like COD4, the various Quakes, Doom, Unreal Tournament, etc.), and while it's fun for very limited amounts of time, I honestly can't even begin to understand how someone can play this way for entire evenings, or even for days or months in a row.

Every time I've played a multiplayer game (MMORPGs excluded) I feel like I've seen everything it has to offer within 5-10 minutes. After a while, it just boils down to respawning, running around looking for pickups/enemies, killing enemies/obtaining objectives, dying. Rinse, repeat. You could theoretically say the same about singleplayer, but then you'd boil away a lot of important fluff like story, scenery variation, enemy variation, bosses, cutscenes, music, character personality, etc. For the most part those elements aren't present in a multiplayer game to save it from being repetitive.

I am completely bored after about 10-15 minutes of multiplayer, regardless of game mode (not that it matters much. All my experience dictates that the vast, vast majority gravitate towards regular deathmatch no matter how appealing other game modes may be) because I feel like I'm doing the same thing over and over again. Even if I'm playing with a group of people I know, working in teams, I can't see how it would be much more fun. It'd still be repetitive.

So I'm honestly curious here. What is it about multiplayer that makes people come back again and again? What's the appeal? I don't understand it at all.
5570  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: 24, Season 8: first trailer out! on: November 01, 2009, 11:07:09 PM
Kim was bad in season 1, and absolutely atrociously horrible in season 2. Seriously, the second time I watched that season I skipped ahead every time she appeared on the screen (with one exception somewhat late in the season) and the season got much better for it.

By season 3 the writers seemed to realize their folly though, so Kim became a lot more bearable then, if not more realistic. The show is usually better when she's not around.

Don't let her presence deter you from watching the rest of the show though. There's some fantastic stuff in the later seasons.
5571  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Witcher....stories, questions, fun on: November 01, 2009, 11:03:06 PM

Quote from: Daehawk on October 31, 2009, 11:08:09 PM

The only bad thing I could say about The Witcher is there no true evil path.

Nor is there a good path, or even a path that lets you remain neutral with a good conscience. Bad stuff is going to happen no matter what you do. Your decisions are more about whether or not you should get involved in all the misery. There are no simple solutions or black and white morality choices in The Witcher, which is one of the things that makes it so good.

I'm glad there's no Bioware Bad Person (tm) dialogue in the game. Their idea of evil is usually something like: "Oh sure, I'll go retrieve your family heirloom... If you pay me plenty of gold. And hah, I'm going to keep your heirloom for myself! I'm so evil, muahaha!"
5572  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Impressions Threads [Hide the spoilers well!] on: November 01, 2009, 01:47:42 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on November 01, 2009, 07:39:07 AM

I wish MW2 would come out so ATB would stop tarnishing Uncharted 2 by playing it.  No one has ever been so far off the mark with their impression of a game.

This is the guy who thinks League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (the movie) is much better than Watchmen (the movie). I wouldn't take his opinion very seriously.  icon_razz
5573  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 31, 2009, 11:03:12 AM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 31, 2009, 10:55:40 AM

As it is now the gamer score and trophy count really just show how OCD and bored someone is.

Not at all. Trophies give me additional challenges in a game beyond simply playing it. I find myself using weapons I otherwise wouldn't have given a chance, I kill enemies in ways I might not have killed them, I discover strategies that might otherwise have been left untouched. Trophies extend the lifetime of a game by giving me things to work towards, at least as long as the trophies are well designed. I find it very satisfying to work on a Platinum trophy.
5574  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Age: Where to buy? on: October 31, 2009, 10:19:29 AM

Quote from: Soulchilde on October 31, 2009, 12:17:53 AM

Preloadfor steam on 11/1

Yay! We Europeans don't get the game until next Friday, and because of no pre-load I was afraid I wouldn't be able to play it until Saturday.
5575  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Impressions Threads [Hide the spoilers well!] on: October 30, 2009, 09:51:50 PM
The game just received a patch with balance fixes to multiplayer, and a Halloween weekend is now active. What this means is that every player uses either the Skelzor or Dead Explorer skins (depending on side), and you earn double money all weekend. You can't choose different skins at the moment. I thought I was stuck in a game with people who had all got the Platinum trophy. biggrin
5576  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 confirmed! [Now with hands on!] on: October 30, 2009, 04:46:06 PM

Quote from: Caine on October 30, 2009, 04:33:35 PM

really?  are you accepting immigrants at this time?  biggrin

Only if you're hot and female.  icon_razz
5577  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Impressions Threads [Hide the spoilers well!] on: October 30, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
Spoiler for Hiden:
He also becomes more and more visibly wounded for every cutscene, and becomes faster and more aggressive (by throwing grenades, for example). The clues were visible enough, but the fight was still annoying. I prefer the way they did it in the first game.
5578  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 30, 2009, 02:13:45 PM

Quote from: Teggy on October 30, 2009, 02:12:19 PM

How come for a bunch of games you have the platinum trophy but not 100% of the trophies? (Fallout 3, RE5, PoP)

DLC may add new trophies, and they don't count against the Platinum.
5579  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 30, 2009, 02:03:45 PM
I decided to test the US version of the Playstation Network, and found that there's a trophy card there too that looks quite different from the European one. Perhaps this one is easier to understand?

<img src="[url]http://fp.profiles.us.playstation.com/playstation/psn/pid/TiLT42.png" width="230" height="155" border="0" />[/url]
Get your Portable ID!

Edit: It also seems you can get a detailed breakdown of my trophies by clicking on the card. That's nifty.
5580  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 confirmed! [Now with hands on!] on: October 29, 2009, 09:08:09 PM

Quote from: Teggy on October 29, 2009, 09:02:32 PM

I find it funny that in a places like Australia and Europe they'll show lots of boobs but don't like violence and over here we're exactly the opposite.

Don't get too excited now. It's mostly just Australia and Germany. Places like Scandinavia for example are very accepting and will allow just about anything that isn't illegal. Neither violence nor nudity bothers us much at all.
5581  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 29, 2009, 08:52:03 PM
Yeah, I on the other hand only know one guy with a 360, but multiple people with PS3s. The Playstation brand is way more popular over here than the Xbox is.
5582  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 29, 2009, 08:39:10 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on October 29, 2009, 08:23:49 PM

20715 of 76355 Gamerscore

Interestingly, this is exactly the kind of thing Chaz commented that he doesn't like with the PS3's trophies (it shows exactly how much you HAVEN'T completed). It then seems to turn out that the 360 is the only console to display how much you're missing on a total basis, while the PS3 doesn't.  icon_lol
5583  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 29, 2009, 07:59:14 PM

Quote from: KePoW on October 29, 2009, 07:54:55 PM

you can also see individual numbers for each specific game?

That you can do with trophies too. You can see each game's individual distribution of trophy types at a glance, and can see each single trophy if you wish. You can also do side-by-side comparisons against friends and easily see which trophies they have compared to you. These tools are also available on the Playstation website.

The gamerscore is a poor way to present accomplishments because the number in itself means nothing. If you gain 1000 points maximum from each game, a score of 10,000 doesn't tell me if you have maxed out 10 games or found 10% of the achievements in 100 games. I can't see the appeal at all.
5584  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What game is it? on: October 29, 2009, 06:07:56 PM
The problem with most of these quizzes is that if you've played the game they're easy to recognize, and if you haven't they're almost impossible. The exception is the Wolfenstein image above because it shows so little.

In other words, I have no idea what game that is. It doesn't seem familiar at all.
5585  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 29, 2009, 05:42:34 PM

Quote from: Chaz on October 29, 2009, 05:37:31 PM

Ah, see, this I didn't know.  Probably because it's not explained anywhere. 

That said, I still prefer the 360's easily digestible gamerscore.  While trophy tiers are neat, I have to actually sit and look at them to get the information I want.  Is the 812 in that pic the total number of trophies? If so, since that's the easiest number to grok, were I an e-peen farmer, I'd probably just go collecting bronzes, which isn't terribly different than farming 360 achievements.

Trophies won't make all that much sense unless you yourself use a PS3, in much the same way as the 360 gamerscore doesn't make sense unless you use a 360. For example, Darren8r mentioned a guy having a gamerscore of 48000. To me that's just a random number that doesn't tell me anything about whether it's good or bad unless I have some context to place it in. It's the same with the PS3, except that if you get some of the concepts explained it will make more sense. If I tell you that the uppermost trophy type shows how many games I've gotten all trophies in, everyone will have some concept of my accomplishments.

Also, in a competitive environment you wouldn't get much respect from farming bronze trophies. It's the Platinums that count, followed by the level.
5586  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: What game is it? on: October 29, 2009, 05:36:22 PM
Oh come on, that was waaaay too easy. Try showing just part of the image next time, without the most recognizable parts like the agents and the interface. smile
5587  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 29, 2009, 05:26:41 PM

Quote from: Chaz on October 29, 2009, 05:20:50 PM

It's that little mostly empty bar on there that I was talking about.  It kind of undermines TiLT's achievements.  Yes, he's got all those trophies, but look at all the ones he doesn't have.

That isn't what you think it is. It's my "XP bar", representing how far into level 12 I am. When it reaches 100%, I become level 13.
5588  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 29, 2009, 04:49:52 PM
Hmmm, I guess you Americans don't have official Playstation Network cards yet, do you? One of the things that makes trophies appealing is the card that we get in Europe for posting online, like this: (It's in Norwegian)



If we maintained a list of trophy cards here at GT, how would this skew your opinions about achievements vs trophies?
5589  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Achievements > Trophies on: October 29, 2009, 03:21:39 PM
I have no idea what's so great about achievements compared to trophies. I only have a PS3, but from what I've seen of the 360, its achievements seem completely unexciting. I'd much rather work towards levels with some significance and division into various levels of trophies instead of looking at a generic gamerscore. It's very satisfying to bring up my PSN card and see that I'm level 12, that I have 7 platinum trophies, that I have 26 gold trophies, etc. Seeing that I have, say, a gamerscore of 25390 would only be a number without meaning and wouldn't catch my interest.
5590  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Motorola Droid on: October 29, 2009, 02:25:25 PM
Isn't "droid" trademarked by Lucasfilm?
5591  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 confirmed! [Now with hands on!] on: October 29, 2009, 02:22:33 PM
I wouldn't be so worried about the spoiler. It doesn't really spoil the plot except for showing a short glimpse of what you'll go through. I suspect it's from very, very early in the game anyway. It doesn't show you any plot twists or reveal anything about any characters.
5592  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Impressions Threads [Hide the spoilers well!] on: October 29, 2009, 02:20:18 PM
Somewhat spoilerific for both games:

Spoiler for Hiden:
The "monsters" serve a very clear purpose in both games. They show what happens to those who get tempted to abuse the powerful artifacts the antagonists are looking for. Without them, the consequences of failing your quest would be much harder to show. Also, they provide a welcome respite from the regular fighting, and especially in Uncharted 2 they don't appear for very long.
5593  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Dragon Age: Where to buy? on: October 29, 2009, 01:54:55 PM
Steam will supposedly start pre-loading the game tomorrow, according to a reply someone got from Steam support.
5594  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Impressions Threads [Hide the spoilers well!] on: October 29, 2009, 01:46:57 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on October 29, 2009, 01:44:28 PM

Quote from: TiLT on October 29, 2009, 01:14:57 PM

What zombies? There have never been zombies or anything remotely close to it in Uncharted.

Did you play the first game?  They were pretty much zombies.

Really? They weren't undead. They didn't shamble. They didn't eat people. They were intelligent (at least enough to build traps). They observed the intruders quietly for a while before mounting a full, organized attack. They could breed. They couldn't infect people (except through breeding). They weren't rotting.

So tell me, how were they "pretty much zombies"? It's an honest question, because I simply can't understand how you could compare those two things.
5595  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Impressions Threads [Hide the spoilers well!] on: October 29, 2009, 01:14:57 PM
What zombies? There have never been zombies or anything remotely close to it in Uncharted.
5596  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Uncharted 2: Among Impressions Threads [Hide the spoilers well!] on: October 29, 2009, 01:12:34 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 29, 2009, 01:03:26 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 29, 2009, 12:53:57 PM

Spoiler for MAJOR ENDING SPOILERS:
  I don't know-  is there that much difference between the Yeti and the Guardians in terms of being a "monster"?  I don't have a problem with either (and really liked the reveal) but for people who seem opposed to inhuman enemies in the series I'm not sure if that distinction matters.

Spoiler for WHAT HE SAID:
It made a huge difference to me.  I was a little disappointed to see the series heading into the supernatural.  Not that I'm against supernatural elements in games, but it seemed out of place for Uncharted.  It was a big relief and nice surprise to see that they were sticking to their roots after all.  I admit that I'm making a big assumption that SL will feel the same way, but I think he probably will.

Spoiler for Hiden:
I don't see how you can call the Yeti "supernatural" even if they were the real deal.

Anyway, Naughty Dog have stated that they consider the "monsters" an integral part of the Uncharted experience, so I suspect we will keep seeing them. Pulp is supposed to be larger than life, but Uncharted doesn't go into the supernatural territory.

Actually, there haven't been any real monsters at all in the two games we've seen so far. The creatures in the first game were just the results of humans being infected with a powerful virus, followed by several generations of cross-breeding. The "monsters" in this game are merely humans who've drunk from the Tree of Life all their lives, greatly mutating their bodies.
5597  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Chris Taylor gets job at Interplay for Fallout MMO on: October 28, 2009, 10:20:47 PM
Not sure this is a good thing. I'm skeptical towards any attempt to MMORPGify the Fallout universe, and I'm doubly skeptical because Interplay is behind it, which is now mostly just a shell of a company.
5598  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: This Is Fun Pt 3: This Time It's Personal! (possibly NSFW) on: October 28, 2009, 03:32:54 PM
It's real. smile
5599  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 confirmed! [Now with hands on!] on: October 27, 2009, 08:54:29 PM
And BANG! I was waiting for the first person to forget the spoiler tag. Oops, Ridah?  icon_razz
5600  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Can you listen to the voice files in L4D from Valve? on: October 27, 2009, 06:19:13 AM
Quote
Why look for an old out of date L4D1 thread that would not have a title anywhere resembling my problem

Because that's what pretty much ANYONE else on this forum would do. Think about it.

Oh, and "Daehawk abuse"? Seriously? You can't tell that I'm actually trying to be as polite as I can about this issue? That I'm not attempting to insult you?

But sure, go ahead and be defensive. If you won't learn from feedback, I guess that's your choice. Don't be surprised if the "Daehawk abuse" continues then.
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