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4921  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBOX Kinect on: June 16, 2010, 05:36:13 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 16, 2010, 05:09:49 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 16, 2010, 03:18:16 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 16, 2010, 02:55:47 PM

Quote from: Destructor on June 16, 2010, 02:50:55 PM

Microsoft totally bombed at E3. If I wanted to do the 'real life' things that Kinetc does, I'll just go into REAL LIFE and do it.

yeah!  if I wanted to whip out my lightsaber and fight Darth Vader I'd just give him a ring and we could go down to the park!  he could bring his fried chicken pot pie.

 Tongue

I thought the lightsaber combat references were funny back when the Wii was new, and I think they're funny now. I simply can't see any way in which lightsaber combat can be done with this kind of technology without making the whole thing seem completely stupid. Few of us can fence in the first place, and the Star Wars battles have always been really fast-paced (perhaps with the exception of the battle between Vader and Obi-Wan in Episode 4). Being able to wave a lightsaber around is one thing. Being able to actually fight with it is another. I simply don't think it can be done in a satisfying way.


None of these games are meant to be a lightsaber simulator, though.  They are meant to be a fun experience that makes you feel like you're weilding a lightsaber.  That should not be as hard to do.

Doesn't matter. There's no way they can even evoke the feeling of wielding a lightsaber with this tech. You'll just end up looking clumsy while you try to translate your movements to your avatar, and you'll get confused when your avatar's weapon meets resistance which you don't, leading to you being out of sync.

It's never going to work like you imagine in your dreams. This is the big failing of these control systems. Everyone seems to want a swordfighting game, but the fact that we still haven't seen anything halfway decent on that front should be a big hint in itself. The Kinetic doesn't do anything with swords that the Wii couldn't do, so I don't see why you're expecting things to change now.

4922  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Nintendo 3DS or Nintendo's 3D House of DS on: June 16, 2010, 05:29:09 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on June 16, 2010, 05:20:00 PM

Release date info

Quote
A senior source close to Nintendo has claimed that 3DS will be available worldwide "by early next year" at the latest, with a 2010 launch in at least one territory "likely".

Nintendo conspicuously avoided detailing launch plans for its 3D handheld during Tuesday's E3 conference, where the system was unveiled.

Speaking to Eurogamer after the event, a Nintendo UK spokesperson confirmed that the company had no announcement to make on launch date or price at present.

But our source revealed that a holiday 2010 release is being worked towards on a global level, with a chance the system could slip into early 2011.

The console, which produces 3D visuals without the need for specialised eyewear, has been met with widespread acclaim, and its E3 debut is backed by a wealth of demo content produced both in-house and from key third-party partners, including playable games, interactive videos, 3D movie samples and the ability to take 3D photos.

All those demo models!  I thought they were closer.

I'll happily throw my European friends under the bus if Holiday 2010 = America.

I'm expecting Japan will get the majority of them, though.

I don't think you have to worry about us Europeans. We always get game hardware last for some reason.
4923  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: LotRO goes Free to PLay on: June 16, 2010, 03:23:56 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 16, 2010, 03:17:05 PM

the beta starts today.  I wonder why they'd need to have a beta since it's the same game, only free.

It's because they want to test the LOTRO store. In a beta they can try different types of items for sale and see how the community reacts without having to keep the bad ideas when the full thing launches.
4924  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBOX Kinect on: June 16, 2010, 03:18:16 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 16, 2010, 02:55:47 PM

Quote from: Destructor on June 16, 2010, 02:50:55 PM

Microsoft totally bombed at E3. If I wanted to do the 'real life' things that Kinetc does, I'll just go into REAL LIFE and do it.

yeah!  if I wanted to whip out my lightsaber and fight Darth Vader I'd just give him a ring and we could go down to the park!  he could bring his fried chicken pot pie.

 Tongue

I thought the lightsaber combat references were funny back when the Wii was new, and I think they're funny now. I simply can't see any way in which lightsaber combat can be done with this kind of technology without making the whole thing seem completely stupid. Few of us can fence in the first place, and the Star Wars battles have always been really fast-paced (perhaps with the exception of the battle between Vader and Obi-Wan in Episode 4). Being able to wave a lightsaber around is one thing. Being able to actually fight with it is another. I simply don't think it can be done in a satisfying way.
4925  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: XBOX Kinect on: June 16, 2010, 01:51:59 PM
Those grinning tigers are freaking me out. I can imagine children getting frightened by them.
4926  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Lord of the Rings: War in the North on: June 16, 2010, 12:27:07 PM

Quote from: Hotfreak on June 16, 2010, 12:09:51 PM

Quote from: Roguetad on June 15, 2010, 03:38:05 PM

I can't imagine hobbits without their gayness for each other.  Dreamy stares into each others eyes as they profess their adoration for one another is just part of the gig.  That's why this game needs to focus on nothing but hobbits, a party of free loving hobits fighting evil together.  It's a proven formula for success.  If 300 brotherly Spartans can stop 10,000, imagine what a party of 6 hobbits could do?  Forget lore butchering human wizards, I want to see 6 hobbits shield to shield, holding hands, singing songs and kicking evil's ass all over Middle Earth. 
Agreed.  But why 6 hobbits?  I don't see that number in the books.

It's Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin, plus a wizard hobbit and a cleric hobbit that were vaguely alluded to in the books if you squint and turn your head a little and read a different book. Tongue
4927  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Warhammer 40k: Space Marine - 40k meets God of War on: June 16, 2010, 06:18:55 AM

Quote from: Turtle on June 16, 2010, 06:13:29 AM

just to illustrate how puny an average human is compared to fully grown Orks

There's no such thing as a fully grown Ork in the Warhammer universe. They never stop growing. smile
4928  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [E3 2010] - Official Gaming Trend Coverage Begins on: June 15, 2010, 08:17:40 PM

Quote from: jblank on June 15, 2010, 08:15:47 PM

Quote from: Caine on June 15, 2010, 08:13:59 PM

yay, playstation subscription fees.  at least they deem to give you full games to play while you subscribe, and they don't try to charge us $8 a month to start.

They gotta find some way to pay for this Move bullshit, so the easiest way is to give us the big dick and match Microsoft at $49.99 for use. They just took one of the pluses (free online) away.

No they didn't. It's still free.
4929  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [E3 2010] - Official Gaming Trend Coverage Begins on: June 15, 2010, 08:13:51 PM

Quote from: kathode on June 15, 2010, 08:11:23 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 15, 2010, 08:06:25 PM

A recent survey of brand recognition showed that a larger percentage of PS3 owners were aware of the Move than 360 owners who were aware of Natal. The number was slightly above 40% for the Move, I think.

Do you have a link?  I remember reading about it but I remember both numbers being ridiculously low.

Sorry, I don't remember where I read it. The numbers were indeed surprisingly low, somewhere around 30-40% for both platforms, with the PS3 edging ahead a little.
4930  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [E3 2010] - Official Gaming Trend Coverage Begins on: June 15, 2010, 08:06:25 PM

Quote from: jblank on June 15, 2010, 08:04:55 PM

Quote from: kathode on June 15, 2010, 08:03:53 PM

Wow, I kinda forgot that Home existed.

So has 96% of PS3 users. smile

A recent survey of brand recognition showed that a larger percentage of PS3 owners were aware of the Move than 360 owners who were aware of Natal. The number was slightly above 40% for the Move, I think.
4931  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Force Unleashed II on: June 15, 2010, 06:14:09 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 14, 2010, 11:25:33 PM

Quote from: leo8877 on June 12, 2010, 02:03:12 PM


awesome video and proof Daehawk doesn't bother to read.

We needed more? Proof, that is.
4932  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: New Assassins Creed game with Multiplayer on: June 15, 2010, 06:09:43 AM
Man, Ubisoft is really trying hard these days to milk potential customers for all they're worth (and then some). AC2 made it clear that Ezio's role in the story is over, so I don't see what would be important enough for the spotlight to keep being on him. Second, this is not Assassin's Creed 3. Third, it's an Ubisoft game, and until they get rid of the DRM (don't worry, I'm not going to turn this thread into a DRM thread) I'm not buying any games from them, period.
4933  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Lord of the Rings: War in the North on: June 15, 2010, 04:38:49 AM

Quote from: skystride on June 14, 2010, 10:26:10 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 14, 2010, 07:26:03 PM

Yes, I believe it does matter. It seriously dilutes the source material. I mean, look at yourself! You actually thought that there were wizards in the LOTR universe, probably because you've seen them in games or you just made an assumption based on generic fantasy, and there are probably a lot of people who think the same. Neither the books nor the movies contain any spellcasters apart from the Maiar. In a time when games are such a considerable part of culture as they have become, I feel it's important that things are done properly and with respect.

Is it that hard to disassociate yourself from a game and the lore material?  I don't freak out while playing Lego Star Wars because the real characters aren't made of Lego blocks!

The obvious difference is that Lego Star Wars is a parody of the source material, and as such doesn't hurt it.
4934  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [E3 2010] - Official Gaming Trend Coverage Begins on: June 14, 2010, 09:22:21 PM

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on June 14, 2010, 09:19:26 PM

It's clear MS, and I assume Sony, are really going for the more casual and family gamer segment with their motion control products.

Actually, Sony seems to be doing the sensible thing and is appealing to hardcore gamers with Move by showing off games like Resident Evil 5, Little Big Planet 2 and SOCOM 4, all three of which are Move compatible.
4935  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Kinect (Natal) and Move Pricing on: June 14, 2010, 08:40:35 PM
To be fair, Michael Pachter predicted the $299 combo, and I agree with him in that it might pull in quite a few non-hardcore customers. For those of us who already own 360s though? Not so much.
4936  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Lord of the Rings: War in the North on: June 14, 2010, 07:26:03 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 14, 2010, 07:09:54 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 14, 2010, 07:03:02 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 14, 2010, 06:53:26 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 14, 2010, 06:03:09 PM

I lost interest in this one when a preview I read talked at length about how one of the characters is a wizard (not a Wizard. A wizard. Like a spellcasting human. Those don't exist in Lord of the Rings).

Huh?  Isn't that what Gandalf is?

I'm not really into the LotR universe, but I've watched the movies and I thought that's what it looked like he was.

I pointed out that this game contains a wizard, not a Wizard. The difference that capital letter makes is very important when it comes to LOTR. The latter is a race of 5 half-gods (Maiar actually. Gandalf and Saruman being among them. The other three were Radagast, Alatar and Pallando. The character in this game is neither of these). They are not human. The former is something that doesn't exist in LOTR.

Oh ok, I don't read the books or anything.

But for the mass-population gamers like me, does it really matter?  As long as the game is fun and well-developed.

Yes, I believe it does matter. It seriously dilutes the source material. I mean, look at yourself! You actually thought that there were wizards in the LOTR universe, probably because you've seen them in games or you just made an assumption based on generic fantasy, and there are probably a lot of people who think the same. Neither the books nor the movies contain any spellcasters apart from the Maiar. In a time when games are such a considerable part of culture as they have become, I feel it's important that things are done properly and with respect.

There's also the fact that by using the LOTR name and breaking the setting in such a heavy-handed way, the developers will be pushing away the fans of the setting instead of pulling them in.
4937  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Lord of the Rings: War in the North on: June 14, 2010, 07:03:02 PM

Quote from: KePoW on June 14, 2010, 06:53:26 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 14, 2010, 06:03:09 PM

I lost interest in this one when a preview I read talked at length about how one of the characters is a wizard (not a Wizard. A wizard. Like a spellcasting human. Those don't exist in Lord of the Rings).

Huh?  Isn't that what Gandalf is?

I'm not really into the LotR universe, but I've watched the movies and I thought that's what it looked like he was.

I pointed out that this game contains a wizard, not a Wizard. The difference that capital letter makes is very important when it comes to LOTR. The latter is a race of 5 half-gods (Maiar actually. Gandalf and Saruman being among them. The other three were Radagast, Alatar and Pallando. The character in this game is neither of these). They are not human. The former is something that doesn't exist in LOTR.
4938  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: [E3 2010] - Official Gaming Trend Coverage Begins on: June 14, 2010, 06:59:42 PM

Quote from: Razgon on June 14, 2010, 06:53:01 PM

eh..remind me if I'm wrong, but isnt "Move" by Sony a handheld device you can use? If so, how on earth can they compete with this?

Try thinking like this: Can you even begin to imagine how to play a traditional action game with the Kinect? The Move can do that easily, and if there's one thing that has been proven about the game market over the last few years, it's that on consoles the "hardcore" gamers are the ones who produce the most reliable income.
4939  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: The Lord of the Rings: War in the North on: June 14, 2010, 06:03:09 PM
I lost interest in this one when a preview I read talked at length about how one of the characters is a wizard (not a Wizard. A wizard. Like a spellcasting human. Those don't exist in Lord of the Rings).

Why oh why do developers feel the need to introduce generic fantasy trappings into the LOTR universe?
4940  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Natal and Move Pricing on: June 14, 2010, 04:50:21 AM
I seem to recall something about Move not going to cost more than $49, but we'll see. Most analysts seem to agree that Natal (Xbox Kinect) is going to cost considerably more though. A recent survey revealed that there was also a higher user awareness of the Move in comparison to Natal.

So far it looks bad for Microsoft, as Sony is sitting with all the aces.
4941  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: E3 2010-games list leaked? on: June 13, 2010, 12:14:58 PM

Quote from: ydejin on June 13, 2010, 11:23:42 AM

Quote from: Turtle on June 12, 2010, 01:38:33 AM

ME3 and DA2 probably just get teasers.  That said, both those games have had their engines finished and all their tools ready to use. So, besides a few tweaks and gameplay specific programming, they could get right into making the game.

Dragon Age really needs an engine update.  It's a decent game, but on the 360 at least it looks just terrible.

On the other hand, when fully zoomed out on the PC it looks nearly hand-drawn.
4942  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: X-Com comes to consoles on: June 12, 2010, 08:12:01 AM

Quote from: Turtle on June 12, 2010, 01:19:42 AM

Sectoids were never green, and face it guys, it's always involved crazy, and crazy stupid creature designs that looked way worse than these. Rose colored glasses off and see how ridiculous the snakement, green and purple muscle guys, heck even the purple barnies in apocalypse were.

What's your point? You just described X-Com! If a developer feels that the setting is silly, why the hell use it to begin with?
4943  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: World of Warcraft Remote Auction House on: June 11, 2010, 10:11:45 PM
I wish LOTRO would do something like this.
4944  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: X-Com comes to consoles on: June 11, 2010, 02:31:35 PM
I saw absolutely nothing in there that reminded me of X-Com in any way, shape or form. None of the monsters, none of the artistic design, none of the ships, weapons or technology, none of the storyline. The graphics and animations were kind of weak too.

The worst part of it is that a lot of people are apparently fine with this being called X-Com. You do know that this game actually reduces the chance that we'll get a real X-Com sequel, right?
4945  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Civilization 5: Now Steam powered! on: June 11, 2010, 06:34:51 AM
I think the blandness you're talking about comes from the missing GUI in these screenshots. It's hard to judge the overall graphical style without everything in place.
4946  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Lord of the Rings Online enters the Third Ag- um.... Year. on: June 11, 2010, 06:30:18 AM
As a little follow-up to that: If you want to make sure you're not wasting crafting resources, make sure you finish mastery of the previous tier before you finish the normal part of the next tier. In other words, once you finish Apprentice and become Journeyman, make sure you master Apprentice before you reach the tier after Journeyman, or you risk wasting resources that could be spent mastering Journeyman.

At one point you're going to have to choose a crafting guild to join as well. You can only join one, so even if you've got 3 separate skills that have guilds, only one of them can be truly mastered this way. By building reputation with your guild (by crafting symbols they ask for) you gain access to some truly powerful recipes.

The process of completely mastering a crafting skill is long and demanding, so be prepared for what you're getting into. smile
4947  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: Lord of the Rings Online enters the Third Ag- um.... Year. on: June 10, 2010, 08:13:29 PM

Quote from: DocD on June 10, 2010, 07:43:07 PM

Do we have a guild on Landroval? I enjoyed the game enough after the 10 day trial enough to sign up. I have a Captain that 17 and Runekeeper thats 5. I have a quick question about crafting. I have some items that say I can use them to increase the chance of getting a critical success on items, but I can't figure out how to use them. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to use them?

You can't get critical successes in a crafting tier until you've reached Master level in that tier. Once you do, you'll have access to a separate tab for items that have a crit version (most of them do). This tab will show you your chance of critting, and if it's possible to add an item to increase the chance, you'll see which item is needed and what effect it will have. You use the item by clicking a checkbox on this tab.

So essentially, once you reach a crafting tier you can make ordinary items of that tier. Once you master a tier, you can make critical items from that tier.
4948  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Control-Vee! on: June 10, 2010, 05:46:28 PM

Quote from: Arkon on June 10, 2010, 05:44:38 PM

select *, datetime(substr(xml,14,10),"unixepoch") as Date from errors where datetime(substr(xml,14,10),"unixepoch") > date('now','-24 hour') order by Date desc

That sentence is just missing a little regexp to be a real mouthful. smile
4949  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: LotRO goes Free to PLay on: June 10, 2010, 05:42:19 PM

Quote from: ydejin on June 09, 2010, 08:07:08 AM

Quote from: DOSHIGH on June 08, 2010, 04:23:59 PM

Here's what I can't quite figure out: the FAQ's say that you'll need to purchase Quest packs for areas past the starter zones and Bree-land as a Premium player, but it also says if you were a subscriber with the original & expansions that content will always be open to you as a Premium player.  So which is it? If it's the latter, and I hope it is, then there are really 2 kinds of Premium players, those before and after F2P was implemented.  I'm particularly curious because I haven't bought MoM yet and I may not even enter the area until F2P comes around. So depending on how it works, it may or may not be a good idea to grab the expansion prior to F2P.

I think TiLT is correct.  Check the fine print at the bottom of this chart.  Purchasers of the Mines of Moria expansion get access to the Mines of Moria region and content and premium classes and level 60 cap.  Purchasers of Siege of Mirkwood get access to the Siege of Mirkwood region and content and level 65 cap.

It doesn't really say about non-Moria non starter areas, so I suppose they could charge people for those, but it would seem that anyone who had previously purchased the original LotRO box ought to get those for free.

I suppose the question is how much are they planning to charge on the F2P model to unlock Moria vs. how much can you pickup the MoM expansion for now.  Any DDO players who can give us an idea of how much a Moria sized chunk of content would cost to buy in DDO?

I may have been wrong. Reading a bit further on the forums, it seems that the premium content from SoA becomes unavailable to you if you stop being a VIP unless you buy it through the LOTRO store. It makes sense, of course. If you stopped subscribing today, you wouldn't have access to any of it anyway, and after F2P you still won't have access to less content than any other player (on the contrary, you'll be a Premium player by default).
4950  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Control-Vee! on: June 10, 2010, 05:11:39 PM

Quote from: kratz on June 10, 2010, 05:08:57 PM

Quote from: Purge on June 10, 2010, 04:20:29 PM

Quote from: TiLT on June 10, 2010, 04:14:49 PM

780000

I was doing home loan calculations. Either that, or this is the question to the answer to life, the universe, and everything.  icon_razz

Your house has a lot of money. Does it do small loans with sub-prime lending rates?

780000 Norwegian kroner = 120060.7200 US dollars

Correct! Also, that number is not the size of the loan. It was just part of a larger calculation. smile
4951  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: Control-Vee! on: June 10, 2010, 04:14:49 PM
780000

I was doing home loan calculations. Either that, or this is the question to the answer to life, the universe, and everything.  icon_razz
4952  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II on: June 10, 2010, 04:12:18 PM

Quote from: kronovan on June 07, 2010, 06:58:51 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 07, 2010, 02:12:17 PM

Quote from: Razgon on June 07, 2010, 01:52:57 PM

So, its a fighthing game now,and thats all? Not much emphasis on story or the galaxy

Meh...

that pretty much sounds like the first game.  hack and slash and spam force powers, and then eventually hit force resistant enemies so you end up just hacking and slashing.

Agreed, the 1st FU wasn't exactly strong in the story department  - certainly no where near the quality of stories in Raven Soft's games or Battlefront II.  That Vader's apprentice is named Starkiller more less says it all IMO.

Well, Starkiller is entirely within the realm of believable Star Wars names, particularly when you consider that the two main characters of the saga are Luke and Anakin Skywalker. I'm usually really hard to please with third-party Star Wars lore and the liberties taken as well. 
4953  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Mortal Kombat returns on: June 10, 2010, 04:08:47 PM
That actually looks kind of neat. Going to keep an eye on it. smile
4954  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Portal 2 on: June 09, 2010, 08:54:41 PM
If the "Portal 2-themed" surprise at E3 is an announcement that they're releasing it as an episodic game, I'm going to personally come over there and slap them back to their senses.
4955  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread. on: June 09, 2010, 04:12:57 PM

Quote from: farley2k on June 09, 2010, 04:00:58 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on June 09, 2010, 12:28:43 AM

over 5 million shipped (not sold).  not GTA IV numbers but hopefully they'll make the 4 million sold target they need to make to recoup dev costs.

So at $60 a game that means it cost roughly 24 million to develop RDR

That's not how sales work. How do you think the stores and the distributors earn their money? The developer and publisher are actually left with not much at all out of the total sum. Take a look at one of GameTrailers' Pach Attacks to get Michael Pachter's pretty good overview of how the money is distributed down the chain. The interesting part starts at 2:35.
4956  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] A new Mortal Kombat on it's way? on: June 09, 2010, 11:02:03 AM

Quote from: RedJak on June 09, 2010, 10:10:24 AM

It is actually a demo clip for a director that wants WB to make a new MK movie with this kind of vision.  The actors volunteered their time to help. 

That's something I didn't consider. The guy gets a thumbs up from me. smile
4957  Gaming / Console / PC Gaming / Re: Next up from Telltale: Jurassic Park? on: June 09, 2010, 07:19:19 AM
I can't see how they'd be able to do this properly using their standard type of gameplay. Perhaps they're planning something closer to the old Resident Evil games? An episodic survival horror game in the Jurassic Park setting could be cool.
4958  Non-Gaming / Steals and Deals / Re: Steam Midweek Madness 6-8-2010: Batman Arkham Asylum GOTY 50% off on: June 09, 2010, 06:20:12 AM

Quote from: Moliere on June 08, 2010, 08:57:25 PM

Any opinions about this game with this deal?

There's plenty of opinions about the game without the deal, and they are all very favorable. If you like Batman, you'll like this game.
4959  Non-Gaming / Off-Topic / Re: [movie] A new Mortal Kombat on it's way? on: June 09, 2010, 04:50:01 AM
It's easy to see that this is marketing for a game. The pace is all wrong for a full movie, and it's clearly only meant for these few minutes of play time.
4960  Gaming / Multiplayer Madness (MMO or otherwise) / Re: LotRO goes Free to PLay on: June 08, 2010, 04:51:35 PM

Quote from: DOSHIGH on June 08, 2010, 04:23:59 PM

Here's what I can't quite figure out: the FAQ's say that you'll need to purchase Quest packs for areas past the starter zones and Bree-land as a Premium player, but it also says if you were a subscriber with the original & expansions that content will always be open to you as a Premium player.  So which is it? If it's the latter, and I hope it is, then there are really 2 kinds of Premium players, those before and after F2P was implemented.  I'm particularly curious because I haven't bought MoM yet and I may not even enter the area until F2P comes around. So depending on how it works, it may or may not be a good idea to grab the expansion prior to F2P.

You could say that those of us who are subscribing now already bought those adventure packs by purchasing the game box. That's the big difference, since new players after F2P is introduced won't have to purchase anything up-front.
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